Is Corbyn on this planet?

Jeremy Corbyn has said that if he gets in as leader he will apologise for our part in the Iraq debacle. That is one thing, although it was their leader A. Blair at the time, who lied to Parliament to get his MP's and the tories to vote for it. That I always thought was treason, the only crime still on the statute books to warrant the death penalty. Of course it was the same Blair who abolished the crime of treason. (possibly self interest formed a large part of the motive there)

Infinitely worse however, and the reason I ask the question is he real, is he seems to think some sort of political accord can be made with IS. These people have openly bragged that they are going to take over the world. Badboy has seen a plan of how they intend to do it. They rape, torture and kill without mercy, with little or no provocation. We have recently seen an American aid worker repeatedly raped by their alleged leader and the curator of an ancient site has just been tortured and beheaded. He had committed no crime beyond refusing to join their blood soaked cult.

Their crimes are legion, their cruelty unmatched, and Jeremy Corby thinks he can talk to them? I ask again what planet is he on? If he tried, he would be lucky to escape with his life. If by some one in a million chance, he was to reach some sort of agreement with them, they would break it the second it suited.

Anyone who even thinks that some sort of agreement is possible with people who will cheerfully rape a 9 year old girl, and consider it right and proper, must be a sandwich or two short of a picnic.

Hello Katertaif if this man wants to go and negotiate with IS he should just go. He won't though, he may be stupid but not quite that stupid. He should just shut up and stop spouting utter nonsense.

corbyn is a shining example of what is known as a useful idiot.

Marky wrote:corbyn is a shining example of what is known as a useful idiot.

Yes, for a start he's showing up exactly how undemocratic the labour party really are

He could also be a real gift to the Conservatives

Or, if he actually gets to be PM, we could all be sorry we ever heard his name

fuzeta wrote:Hello Katertaif   if this man wants to go and negotiate with IS he should just go.  He won't though, he may be stupid but not quite that stupid. He should just shut up and stop spouting utter nonsense.

Hi fuzeta. yes utter nonsense appears to be his forte, but then so it is among many socialists not all, but quite a few. In his case, absolutely a few slates short of a roof. Angeline is quite right in that if by some miracle he did become PM we would be for it and no error.

BTW I have just read an interesting article on George Galloway. Among other things it appears there are several people who remember him at the ceremony when he formally accepted Islam. Nothing wrong in that per se, I hear you cry but he has always strenuously denied being a Muslim. If he will lie over his religious beliefs, where are his red lines. Is there anything at all he is honest about?

Maybe you can accept the muslim religion ,but it doesn't make you one ,I can see a lot of good in buddism ,but I am not one .joyce1938

SOMETHING LIKE 51 ECONOMIST ARE SAYING CORBYN IS RIGHT,I THINK HE WILL DEFINATELY BECOME LABOUR LEADER.

joyce1938 wrote:Maybe you can accept the muslim religion ,but it doesn't make you  one ,I can see a lot of good in buddism ,but I am not one .joyce1938

Hello Joyce, I am absolutely not sure but I think that if you 'Accept Islam' it means that you have converted.  That is how I see it anyway.

I see a lot of good in Buddhism too Joyce.  I do think I could very happily be a Buddhist.

[quote="joyce1938"]Maybe you can accept the muslim religion ,but it doesn't make you  one ,I can see a lot of good in buddism ,but I am not one .joyce1938[/quote

Hello Joyce nice to hear from you again. I don't know if your question is rhetorical, but no, I am certainly not a Muslim, and I never would be. I'm not talking about the average Muslim, but the thousands of fanatics who seem to be multiplying like weeds. In my absolutely honest opinion, it is a mish mash at best. How anyone can believe in a deity who commands his followers to kill all infidels, especially Jews is a contradiction in terms. They claim Allah is wise, and merciful how can this be while he (according to their interpretation) commands his followers to kill everyone in sight!!

All major religions have gone through their bloody stage. I expect Torquemada was quite a nice chap really when he wasn't stringing people up by their thumbs, but we have (I say this with tongue in cheek Joyce) matured from that. Islam has not. In fact since oil money made it possible for them to buy every sort of murderous weapon, the militants have been on the march with a vengeance. I have been told many times that the Qur'an is universal while there are dozens of versions of the bible. That just is not so each terror group (and there are dozens of them) have their own narrow interpretation and all of them want to kill anyone who doesn't agree with it. Of the dozens of Cristian sects, how many of them want to kill all who disagree?

Brought up a Roman Catholic, I was also taught that we were the only ones who were right, but I wasn't enjoined to kill everyone who disagreed with me. Now, I believe that no matter what religion, as long as a person lives a good life helping out wherever s/he can, then if there is a heaven, s/he will go there. Like the rest of us, I have no idea what the next step is if there is one.

If Allah thinks all non believers should be killed, why did he not make us all Muslim to begin with? There is a passage in the Qur'an that says we are going to everlasting fire and our flesh will be roasted off and everlastingly renewed so it can be roasted off again. (yes there truly is a verse that says that) So why go to all that bother, why were we not all created Muslims as I say? IS are destroying ancient sites, but were they not created to honour their Gods, and did Allah not allow it? So why are they destroying what their own God has allowed to be built? A mish mash did I say Joyce. full of contradiction is better.

No Joyce I do not agree with Islam, and most Muslims I know do not agree with the terrorist versions of it. You say Buddhists are good people, in the main you are right. If I had to get religion again, I would probably choose Judaism. As a Roman Catholic, I'm half way there anyway.

fuzeta wrote:

joyce1938 wrote:Maybe you can accept the muslim religion ,but it doesn't make you  one ,I can see a lot of good in buddism ,but I am not one .joyce1938

Hello Joyce, I am absolutely not sure but I think that if you 'Accept Islam' it means that you have converted.  That is how I see it anyway.

I see a lot of good in Buddhism too Joyce.  I do think I could very happily be a Buddhist.

There is a lot of good in Buddhism fuzeta. They are the only ones for example who refer to all religions by saying, Truth is like a mountain, it can be climbed from many sides, but the top remains the same.

"Truth is like a mountain it can be reached from many sides"

I love that Katertaif. I have been to Thailand and spent some time in Bangkok which I thought was fantastic. All it's wonderful temples to different religions, the lovely people. Buddhism is such a peaceful religion, when we left I felt I wanted to be one

fuzeta wrote:"Truth is like a mountain it can be reached from many sides"

I love that Katertaif.   I have been to Thailand and spent some time in Bangkok which I thought was fantastic. All it's wonderful temples to different religions, the lovely people.   Buddhism is such a peaceful religion, when we left I felt I wanted to be one

Hi Fuzeta

Yes, I agree

I've never been to Thailand but I have worked with Thais from time to time. The first thing that always struck me was their gentleness. One of my mechanics in the power station at Taif was a Thai. Pradit Boonchuey. His English was extremely limited and I do mean extremely. fortunately there were several who worked in the motor pool who spoke good English. Given that my living conditions were palatial compared to theirs I used to invite my squad round for drinks some evenings. After all they did all the work. Of course I had to invite some of the motor pool gang over, if for no other reason so that I, and Nair my electrician could talk to Pradit. One day, they were cleaning out a cable duct, and they found half a dozen baby snakes. they were horned adders, which are venomous, and contrary to popular opinion are just as poisonous as Mum and Dad. he wouldn't hurt them, and took great exception to anyone else doing so (me included). He insisted on taking them out into a little forest nearby. I never did find Mum thank God.

Good evening Katertaif. For many years I had a doctor who was a Buddhist from Burma. He used to hold meditation classes but not in our area. He was looking for somewhere close by to have them and a friend of mine, also a patient, offered him her bungalow which had a huge lounge. So every week lots of patients gathered at my friends bungalow. The doctor and his wife came and always brought special tea in flasks. That went on for a couple of years until his wife had a baby, which then took up their time! The doctor thought that meditation helped healing and that is why he did it. It was lovely

CORBYN HAS SAID WOMEN SHOULD BE IN SEPARATE TRAIN CARRIAGES TO AVOID PROBLEMS.

Badboy wrote:CORBYN HAS SAID WOMEN SHOULD BE IN SEPARATE TRAIN CARRIAGES TO AVOID PROBLEMS.

Hello Badboy, what problems does he mean?

fuzeta wrote:

Badboy wrote:CORBYN HAS SAID WOMEN SHOULD BE IN SEPARATE TRAIN CARRIAGES TO AVOID PROBLEMS.

Hello Badboy, what problems does he mean?

PROBLEMS LIKE WOMEN BEING GROPED/SEXUALLY HARASSED,POSSIBLY FLASHED AT ETC ETC

Well Badboy what a stupid man he is. It surely has not got that bad.  Or is he just finding an excuse to segregate the sexes do you think?

fuzeta wrote:

Badboy wrote:CORBYN HAS SAID WOMEN SHOULD BE IN SEPARATE TRAIN CARRIAGES TO AVOID PROBLEMS.

Hello Badboy, what problems does he mean?

Good morning Fuzeta

I believe what he's a getting at is that if there were women only on board the bus or a particular train carriage, then there would be no one to attack them. Objections have been raised in that it is introducing (or would if it ever got on the statute books) a kind of apartheid and segregating a particular type of person in this case women.

On the face of it and as long as you don't put a great deal of thought into it sounds a good idea. On the other hand, if I saw a woman being attacked or molested in any way, I hope I would intervene. I think that would be what the vast majority of men would do. That couldn't happen if Corbyn got his way. There would be no honest men to intervene. As usual, those bent on mischief would take no notice especially if they saw a woman on her own in a carriage. It's a bit like when labour, in their knee jerk reaction to Dunblane banned all handguns. Or did they. They banned the honest ones, since when gun crime has proliferated. I haven't heard of many criminals who have handed their guns in on the grounds they were now illegal.

For me the answer is tougher sentencing in tough conditions. Few are being "de-criminalised" by prison it's just too good in there. What we actually need is a real deterrent, and if that is barbaric according to the bleeding hearts then that is the price we have to pay to keep our society safe, which it isn't now.

fuzeta wrote:Good evening Katertaif.  For many years I had a doctor who was a Buddhist from Burma.  He used to hold meditation classes but not in our area.   He was looking for somewhere close by to have them and a friend of mine, also a patient, offered him her bungalow which had a huge lounge.   So every week lots of patients gathered at my friends bungalow.  The doctor and his wife came and always brought special tea in flasks.  That went on for a couple of years until his wife had a baby, which then took up their time!    The doctor thought that meditation helped healing and that is why he did it.  It was lovely

Good afternoon Fuzeta.

I think your doctor was very probably right. I cant  quote any examples offhand, but I have over the years heard of and even seen quite a number of instances where that sort of thing has been a positive influence. Far Eastern "mystics" can control pain through meditation, I don't think many would argue with that. So on the whole it must be a good thing. Apart from anything else you say it was lovely, so that in itself is positive in that it made you feel good.

CORBYN HAS SUPPOSEDLY SAID OSAMA BIN LADEN SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT AND TRIED IN A COURT OF LAW IN THE PAST.

I hadn't even heard off him before milliband resigned

kitti wrote:I hadn't even heard off him before milliband  resigned

SAME WITH ME,IF YOU HAD MENTIONED HIS NAME,MY 1ST QUESTION WOULD BE WHO HE?
I DON'T KNOW MANY POLITICANS FROM ADAM.

Badboy wrote:

kitti wrote:I hadn't even heard off him before milliband  resigned

SAME WITH ME,IF YOU HAD MENTIONED HIS NAME,MY 1ST QUESTION WOULD BE WHO HE?
I DON'T KNOW MANY POLITICANS FROM ADAM.

I had only heard of him as an extremely left wing rebellious type. there seem to be a couple of theories as to how he got he job as leader of the Labour party. The general consensus is that he will ruin it completely. certainly on his ill mannered actions this morning. Antagonising the media isn't the best idea he's ever had.

How can anyone take a man seriously when hes wearing beige shorts down to his knees, brown socks and brown sandals ....