If they had put......................

as much effort into their childcare as they have to their legal defense none of us would be here today

and Maddie would be a happy little child growing up none the wiser

isn't that a sobering thought

its not a matter of their childcare any more its a matter of them trying to silence people - bad decisions versus sinister ones

dont know any more

agreed but my point was if they had been this committed to the welfare of their children rather than themselves then none of this need happened and a sweet innocent child would be going about her life

And the other 'sobering thought' is that they've got away with it (so far) only because they mix in circles of 'like minded' people.

we've all come this far lioned

the truth will out

of that I have faith

and they haven't got away with anything

every night befor they slep they see Maddi's face asking why

they have a whol life of torment in front of them

prison would be the easy option

Sadly i doubt it plays on their conscience at all,they will have blamed Maddie from the start and ever since its just been about self preservation and money.
These are not people who's 'mindest' fits into the normal decent parameters that we can normaly imagine.

from the very first moment it was all about protecting themselves, which I found very shocking as the parents of a so called abducted child.
I suspected them from the beginning, have never wavered , they know exactly what happened i.m.o. Karma awaits them I hope.

If they had only held their hands up and said "We were wrong......... Please don't anyone do as we did........." but they couldn't even do that..........

Instead of that we had the nonsense about "responsible parenting", "the situation Madeleine finds herself in" and the "Why would that be our fault??" A more selfish pair I cannot think of...........

We don't know that they did leave the children alone.

Lets not forget that to suggest Madeleine disappeared on May 3rd because of them leaving her 'alone' irresponsibly helps them by allowing for the possible abduction scenario.

They probably knew Maddie was dead when they left for the Tapas that night and the entire night was setting up for the fake abduction.

There was someone near the apartment during most of the hour they were at the tapas...What they were doing is very curious to me...

If they knew she was dead (because of the dog's findings) they were involved in last minute details.....Not making obligatory checks on the children...

Sadly, don't think Madeleine had any good welfare shown to her during her short life. Secrets would have come out sooner or later IMHO. A sad child that. Madeleine had to go and the holiday was a means to put a plan into action. Maybe everything went wrong and she was not meant to pass on. Could Madeleine be alive somewhere in a foreign place. A four year old can remember though, a former life.... She would be asking about the twins and that would be a giveaway.

Lioned wrote:And the other 'sobering thought' is that they've got away with it (so far) only because they mix in circles of 'like minded' people.

Nail meet Hammer, spot on. !!!

It all seems very strange that in the last few days the LP have made a statement saying they will not release any Files, de Freitas will not be at the Hearing, t he McCanns having a closed door hearing.........just what does it all mean? If all this is to aid the McCanns then you have to wonder what hold they have over Gordon
Brown .

HiDeHo wrote:We don't know that they did leave the children alone.

Lets not forget that to suggest Madeleine disappeared on May 3rd because of them leaving her 'alone' irresponsibly helps them by allowing for the possible abduction scenario.

They probably knew Maddie was dead when they left for the Tapas that night and the entire night was setting up for the fake abduction.

There was someone near the apartment during most of the hour they were at the tapas...What they were doing is very curious to me...

If they knew she was dead (because of the dog's findings) they were involved in last minute details.....Not making obligatory checks on the children...

I agree with this. I think that Madeleine was dead when they went to the tapas. The twins were sleeping elsewhere. They made a big deal of leaving Madeleine alone and the crying incident on a previous night for a reason IMO>

Beattie wrote:It all seems very strange that in the last few days the LP have made a statement saying they will not release any Files, de Freitas will not be at the Hearing, t he McCanns having a closed door hearing.........just what does it all mean? If all this is to aid the McCanns then you have to wonder what hold they have over Gordon
Brown .

I believe the McCanns are deeply involved in funny handshakes, as is Brown.
Also there is a possibility (imo) of them becoming parents as part of a Stem Cell research programme rather than IVF treatment. Brown is an enthusiastic supporter of Stem Cell Research.

Hi Malena,

I honestly can"t see the McCanns wanting any more children, by whatever means. Considering they were so keen to have children that they opted for IVF treatment thier child care left much to be desired.

[quote="vivvy"][quote="HiDeHo"]We don't know that they did leave the children alone.

Lets not forget that to suggest Madeleine disappeared on May 3rd because of them leaving her 'alone' irresponsibly helps them by allowing for the possible abduction scenario.

A very good line of thought "vivvy". Could be true too. Madeleine was heard crying by Mrs Fenn, for a long time.