South African researcher tells the CM what he found when he sought to know what happened to Maddie. Explosive revelations, to read in the CM

Were cadaver and blood dogs used in Murat`s garden or just the tracker dogs?

Oldartform wrote:Were cadaver and blood dogs used in Murat`s garden or just the tracker dogs?

The house and garden were searched twice. In May, GNR dogs were used and in August, a British sniffer dog was reported to have been used.

If that reporter hadn't said anything to the police about Robert Murat hanging around, even though he was acting as a translator, I wonder if he would have been in the frame for Madeleine's disappearance.

kathybelle wrote:If that reporter hadn't said anything to the police about Robert Murat hanging around, even though he was acting as a translator, I wonder if he would have been in the frame for Madeleine's disappearance.

Lori Campbell probably thought she was in line for a prize, breathlessly stating her suspicions and likening Murat to the Soham case.

AnnaEsse wrote:

Oldartform wrote:Were cadaver and blood dogs used in Murat`s garden or just the tracker dogs?

The house and garden were searched twice. In May, GNR dogs were used and in August, a British sniffer dog was reported to have been used.

Thanks AnnaEsse - just wondered if they were as expert as Eddie at detecting dead bodies. I think the GNR dogs were looking for a live Maddie.

Oldartform wrote:

AnnaEsse wrote:

Oldartform wrote:Were cadaver and blood dogs used in Murat`s garden or just the tracker dogs?

The house and garden were searched twice. In May, GNR dogs were used and in August, a British sniffer dog was reported to have been used.

Thanks AnnaEsse - just wondered if they were as expert as Eddie at detecting dead bodies. I think the GNR dogs were looking for a live Maddie.

The house and gardens were searched over two full days in August 2007 with a British dog, which I think was probably Eddie.

They even drained his swimming pool.

Date: 04 and 05 August 2007

Report: Casa Liliana, residence of the suspect Robert Murat, situated on "Ramalhete" road - Praia da Luz - Lagos.

Participants:

PJ: Tavares A., chief inspector, J. Carlos P., Ricardo P, inspectors
UK: Mark Harrison, Martin Grime and Eddie.

On that date, within the context of residential visits, which were carried out at the home of the suspect ROBERT MURAT, an inspection by the dog handling unit was made in the gardens and inside the residence of the accused.

August 4th 2007 - 19h28: Start of the inspection of the gardens of the residence. Eddie, human remains recovery dog, covered the whole perimeter outside the dwelling and nothing abnormal was signalled.

August 5th 2007 - 15h22: The same dog inspected all rooms of the residence and nothing in particular was signalled.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id161.html#aug11

Yep you`re right AnnaEsse, it was Eddie, from your translation :-

ah..... Angelina beat me to it .....

The dogs alerted to the renault which as we know was not hired for sometime afterwards. Therefore, if those alerts were correct and it was Madeleine in the boot of that car, she was somewhere temporarily, then laid to rest quite a few weeks later.

Where better to hide something, than somwhere that has already been searched, sniffed, x-rayed and anything else the PJ could think of ? Why would the PJ return and re-dig once it had already been done.

Unlikely of course, but just an opinion.

Well he has his legal people at the ready so is expecting trouble.
It could be of course that it is a pet that has been buried, hence no alert from Eddie, but why put a drive in that position where he says it was of no use. But people do have areas of hard standing for washing lines or other domestic reasons.
I certainly think though that we have not heard the last of this chap and his findings.

Video/interview with Stephen Birch

http://expresso.sapo.pt/conheca-o-sul-africano-que-diz-ter-descoberto-restos-mortais-de-maddie=f737713[flash][/flash]

Was it the May dig that GMc completely ignored in his inane blog? If you thought that your missing child might be buried in a neighbouring garden you'd be there watching. Yet no mention IIRC in the blog, in fact I think he said they'd had an early night.

Bit like when the world was waiting for the dna on the glass in Tonigren? (I think) and the parents hot footed somewhere the opposite way.

Little things like that raise red flags. Perhaps this article is why there was that load of Horrocks in the super, soaraway rag.

Oldartform wrote:Yep you`re right AnnaEsse, it was Eddie, from your translation :-

ah..... Angelina beat me to it .....

I knew I'd seen that somewhere!

If anyone really thought a body was there it would be dug up already and it would be over every media outlet in the world.
However, it is probably a deceased pet.

Carolina wrote:I have the CdM paper and there is a 4 page spread about this whole. This guy Birch is a real estate developer and is fascinated with the Maddie case. He believes that once the body is found it will be possible to solve the case. He also states that he believes that Maddie died accidentally that night and was buried at Murat's house because it had easy access. He is also convinced that Murat and his family are not involved. He also praised Gonçalo Amaral, considering him an honest and competent person and a policeman with many years of experience.


That is more or less what was said in the article.

Thinking about it, t The Mcann's were very eager to set Murat up and turn him into a suspect. As was the rest of the tapas. IF: this scenario is accurate, then it would make sense as they would assume Murat's garden was going to be searched thoroughly and that would mean they get the body back.

What sort of newspaper in the uk is this newspaper equivilent to?

tanszi wrote:Oh Claudia i love your comment. lol.

I think it sums up my reaction to the 'news'.

AnnaEsse wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Well Claudia, I don't know where they dug that researcher up from, but they really ought to throw him back!

And that smart either. Confessing to trespassing! Ooops!

Claudia79 wrote:

AnnaEsse wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Well Claudia, I don't know where they dug that researcher up from, but they really ought to throw him back!

And that smart either. Confessing to trespassing! Ooops!

And then skedaddled back to South Africa. Four times in that garden without permission.

AnnaEsse wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

AnnaEsse wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Well Claudia, I don't know where they dug that researcher up from, but they really ought to throw him back!

And that smart either. Confessing to trespassing! Ooops!

And then skedaddled back to South Africa. Four times in that garden without permission.

Hopefully he didn't take anything with him.... Fridges and blue sports bags leap to mind...

Any comment from 'a source close to the McCanns.'?

It is about another South African called Stephen Birch.

There are now many articles on the web about him.

Here is one giving more details.

"PJ Lane analyzes the Maddie case as it did hundreds

Stephen Birch, a lover of the mystery of the disappearance of Maddie, who lives in South Africa, was in Portugal with a geo-radar machine to analyze the vicinity of the Ocean Club in the Algarve, where the child disappeared in 2007.

Birch believes he has found the place where the corpse of the English girl: the neighbor's yard Robert Murat. According regard to the Morning Post , this Thursday, when Murat left the house, Birch invaded the property to go look for traces of Maddie with its geo-radar. The machine, which is also used by Portuguese police, works by the propagation of electromagnetic waves which enable locating objects in the soil. Birch changes detected 60 cm below ground. Remember that the Judicial Police (PJ) came to dig up the backyard of Murat, who was suspected in this case. PJ is considering the track without qualifying their credibility, as it did hundreds of other information that will come today . "With regard to this information as we did with all the information on a regular and continuous we were coming in the last five years and we are analyzing them," says the assistant national director, Pedro do Carmo. The process of the disappearance of Maddie was filed in July 2008, but after that the PJ has been a team at the Port to review the case and analyze new data."


http://www.publico.pt/Sociedade/pj-analisa-pista-do-caso-maddie-como-fez-com-outras-centenas--1553535

If you look at the original link from CM you will see a video which you can watch showing it was done in the dark.

Robert Murat's reaction:

(Google translation)

Robert Murat speaks of "madness and stupidity"

Asked Thursday afternoon about the polls in your backyard, revealed in the Thursday edition of the 'Morning Post', Robert Murat found the whole situation "a foolish and stupid."
"That makes no sense," said the Briton, who came under investigation by authorities at the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Referring to the search that the South African businessman Stephen Birch held in the backyard of his house in the village of Luz, Murat said that "it may lead to the Judicial Police, which is who should investigate, and give you all the information" .

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/robert-murat-fala-em-loucura-e-estupidez

Selon le quotidien portugais, Correio da Manha, le corps de la petite Maddie se trouverait dans le jardin du seul suspect visé par les autorités, Robert Murat. Stephen Birch, un homme d'affaires sud-africain aurait découvert l'endroit où reposerait le corps de la fillette. L'affaire est classée depuis 2008 mais la police a d'ores et déjà réouvert une enquête pour vérifier ces informations.

http://fr.euronews.com/

According to the Portuguese daily, Correio da Manha, little Maddie's body is to be found in the garden of the only suspect the authorities had in their sights, Robert Murat. Stephen Birch, a South African businessman, has allegedly discovered the resting place of the little girl's body. The case has been archived since 2008, but the police have aleady reopened an investigation to verify the information.

According to the Portuguese daily, Correio da Manha, little Maddie's body is to be found in the garden of the only suspect the authorities had in their sights, Robert Murat.

There's so much wrong with this "news" today, starting with the above. As we all know, RM was one of three suspects the authorities had in their sights.