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Post  interested on Tue 24 Sep - 0:57

Dr. Martin Roberts' latest article dated 23 September 25013 can be found at www.mccannfiles.com

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Post  frencheuropean on Tue 24 Sep - 1:26

He underlines very well some weak points in MW testimony and, accordingly, some MCCann's lies:

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EXCLUSIVE to mccannfiles.com

By Dr Martin Roberts
23 September 2013


THE WRIGHT STUFFED

Is it just me, or is the behaviour of persons connected with the on-going libel contest in Lisbon truly as childish as it appears?

Thanks to Anne Guedes, who has single-handedly succeeded in bringing transcripts of proceedings to the world's attention, while the press fuss about the amount of ink on their rollers, we learn, courtesy of these unofficial records of an official process, that evidence offered by Michael Wright was preceded by an 'overture', involving one António Marinho Pinto; a peculiar on, off, on again, off again episode, in which he first expressed a wish to present his evidence in writing, rather than give oral testimony. That was in January, 2012. A year later and he changes his mind (supposing perhaps that GA's silence could be bought in the meantime). Hence he is required to appear in court after all and – changes his mind once again. He really does prefer to exercise a professional privilege and submit in writing, consequently denying any opportunity for cross-examination. Sensibly the judge was having none of it, saying that this witness (AMP) should have revealed his intention during a specific 10-day legal period. Having failed to do so, he had therefore forfeited his right of privilege and would be required to appear in court.

What makes this vacillation beyond the 11th hour so totally bizarre is the status of the culprit - President of the Bar Association (bastonário da ordem dos advogados)!

After this somewhat out-of-tune rendition of a chorus from Fleetwood Mac, it was curtain up on Michael Wright.

A preliminary on the part of the judge concerned whether the witness's family relationships would influence his testimony. "Yes" came the reply. But would it prevent him from telling the truth? "No".

Of course not. Influence extends only so far after all. Well, I for one do not believe him. This from the original transcript:

ID - In which circumstances did the McCanns learn about the book and the documentary?
MW - says they knew before the shelving of the case, that a book would be published. About the documentary, they were told it had been broadcast on TV in April 2009.

ID - When did they read the book and watch the documentary?
MW - They read the book when I sent them the translation that was on the internet in August 2008.

(Later) MW objects that the book was published immediately after the release of the files and was written by a PJ Inspector. Moreover he says GA's book can be read in a day.

Oh dear, Michael. What it is to be easily led.

On 6 September 2008, Expresso published an interview with the McCanns, both of them. Whilst more than one exchange therein is of relevance to the current proceedings, the following single example is oh so pertinent:

Q – Former inspector Gonçalo Amaral remains convinced of your involvement in Madeleine's disappearance. Did you read 'The Truth of the Lie', the book that he wrote?

Kate and Gerry – No.

Kate – Why would I?

Gerry – I won't learn anything from reading it.

We have a couple with anticipatory knowledge of a potentially 'harmful' book, albeit written in Portuguese, who, in August 2008, receive a translation via the internet that can be read in a day, and who, according to court witness Michael Wright (who is under oath to tell the truth don't forget), read it at that time, presumably in the one day required to do so. And yet, when asked about it publicly in September, both denied having read the book at all.

Someone else has clearly been listening to that FM song. Either Michael Wright was wrong about his friends' August 2008 access and reaction to Goncalo Amaral's ostensibly contentious book or the McCanns were lying to Expresso; par for the course in the latter case.

There are instances during Wright's testimony when he refers to his 'understanding' which has obviously to derive from third-party input given his own lack of first-hand knowledge:

ID - asks whether the investigation was hampered because of GA's book and an article in the Correio da Manhã (Portuguese Morning Post newspaper).
MW - says it's what he understood.

TVI - They were collaborating in the realisation of another documentary, theirs. This documentary wasn't broadcast by TVI, in spite of the agreement between TVI and Channel 4.
MW - says they decided it wasn't appropriate to broadcast their documentary on the same channel that would broadcast GA's documentary (they being 'Kate and Gerry').

Thus are we afforded a subtle glimpse or two into the 'influence' the McCanns have had upon this witness in particular. There is only one thing to add. If, Michael, someone tells you a lie in the street, they are not committing a crime – merely telling lies. Represent that information in court as the truth however and the crime is yours."


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Post  wjk on Tue 24 Sep - 6:29

Doesn't that last paragraph sum up the stupidity of these 'witnesses'.
I wonder what MW is thinking now?
Does he feel like he's been used, I wonder?

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 24 Sep - 7:06

If, Michael, someone tells you a lie in the street, they are not committing a crime – merely telling lies. Represent that information in court as the truth however and the crime is yours."

Excellent!  

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Post  kitti on Tue 24 Sep - 7:32

Is he the person that said their was a terrible stench in the hired car .


Rotting meat off course

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Post  almostgothic on Tue 24 Sep - 9:02

wjk wrote:Doesn't that last paragraph sum up the stupidity of these 'witnesses'.
I wonder what MW is thinking now?
Does he feel like he's been used, I wonder?
He's far, far too close to the pair to ever begin thinking objectively about the case.
And the siege mentality had set in (or was even cynically created) right from the outset.
Their tribe against the world.
And those with that mindset will go down with the sinking ship.

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Post  jeanmonroe on Tue 24 Sep - 12:17

wjk wrote:Doesn't that last paragraph sum up the stupidity of these 'witnesses'.
I wonder what MW is thinking now?
Does he feel like he's been used, I wonder?
Bit like the priest who felt he had been 'duped' by the McCanns?

At least he had the sense to go 'public'

And i reckon he TOLD his 'bosses' in Rome.

which led to the sudden 'whoosh clunking' of all reference to poor Madeleine and the McCanns from any Vatican website.

IMO.

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Post  wjk on Tue 24 Sep - 12:42

almostgothic wrote:
wjk wrote:Doesn't that last paragraph sum up the stupidity of these 'witnesses'.
I wonder what MW is thinking now?
Does he feel like he's been used, I wonder?
He's far, far too close to the pair to ever begin thinking objectively about the case.
And the siege mentality had set in (or was even cynically created) right from the outset.
Their tribe against the world.
And those with that mindset will go down with the sinking ship.
 
 
jeanmonroe wrote:
wjk wrote:Doesn't that last paragraph sum up the stupidity of these 'witnesses'.
I wonder what MW is thinking now?
Does he feel like he's been used, I wonder?
Bit like the priest who felt he had been 'duped' by the McCanns?

At least he had the sense to go 'public'

And i reckon he TOLD his 'bosses' in Rome.

which led to the sudden 'whoosh clunking' of all reference to poor Madeleine and the McCanns from any Vatican website.

IMO.
I'd love to think that experiencing his court appearance, MW would look a little more deeply into the files etc, and not just to what the 'McCanns told him'.

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Post  jeanmonroe on Tue 24 Sep - 13:08

Is this correct?

Both 'sides' can only have 10 'witnesses'?

IF that is correct then the McCann 'side' has already had their 10.

So no hearing from Ma Healy or Trish then?

Probably just as well, IMO!

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Post  devonmum on Tue 24 Sep - 13:32

jeanmonroe wrote:Is this correct?

Both 'sides' can only have 10 'witnesses'?

IF that is correct then the McCann 'side' has already had their 10.

So no hearing from Ma Healy or Trish then?

Probably just as well, IMO!
I heard that somewhere and was thinking the same!

On the the other side, does that mean GA and the others get 10 each too, or is it 10 between them? Could go on a while if it is the former!

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Post  jeanmonroe on Tue 24 Sep - 13:40

devonmum wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Is this correct?

Both 'sides' can only have 10 'witnesses'?

IF that is correct then the McCann 'side' has already had their 10.

So no hearing from Ma Healy or Trish then?

Probably just as well, IMO!
I heard that somewhere and was thinking the same!

On the the other  side, does that mean GA and the others get 10 each too, or is it 10 between them? Could go on a while if it is the former!
GA only needs ONE!
Himself.
Backed up by his TRUE belief and conviction, that what he wrote he truly believes is what happened to Madeleine.

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Post  pennylane on Tue 24 Sep - 13:42

jeanmonroe wrote:
devonmum wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Is this correct?

Both 'sides' can only have 10 'witnesses'?

IF that is correct then the McCann 'side' has already had their 10.

So no hearing from Ma Healy or Trish then?

Probably just as well, IMO!
I heard that somewhere and was thinking the same!

On the the other  side, does that mean GA and the others get 10 each too, or is it 10 between them? Could go on a while if it is the former!
GA only needs ONE!
Himself.

Backed up by his TRUE belief and conviction, that what he wrote he truly believes is what happened to Madeleine.
Amen !!!

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Post  wjk on Tue 24 Sep - 13:50

pennylane wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:
devonmum wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Is this correct?

Both 'sides' can only have 10 'witnesses'?

IF that is correct then the McCann 'side' has already had their 10.

So no hearing from Ma Healy or Trish then?

Probably just as well, IMO!
I heard that somewhere and was thinking the same!

On the the other  side, does that mean GA and the others get 10 each too, or is it 10 between them? Could go on a while if it is the former!
GA only needs ONE!
Himself.

Backed up by his TRUE belief and conviction, that what he wrote he truly believes is what happened to Madeleine.
Amen !!!
I'll second that!!  

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Post  Guest on Tue 24 Sep - 17:31

I don't think GA even needs to call on himself.

Remember, libel law in PT is much more civilised than it is here - the onus is not on GA to prove that the McCanns weren't libelled. It's up to them to prove that they were. Which up until now, they have spectacularly failed to do.

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Post  almostgothic on Tue 24 Sep - 19:33

A little bit of comic opera dedicated to those who patrol that dreadful WWW so selflessly:

As some day it may happen that some scapegoats must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of nasty keyboard nutters who should all be gagged and bound,
And who never would be missed - with some handcuffs round their wrist!
There's the pestilential forum types - I monitor this chaff
On behalf of Kate and Gerry (well they just can't get the staff)
I take down notes if they offend or leave us feeling flat,
That's even if they seek the truth or laugh at Cuddle Cat
And all those persons who on spoiling Clarrie's tales insist
They'd none of 'em be missed — they all go on my list!

(Chorus:)
The judge has got his list — his other little list;
It's his aide-memoire in green ink — and she's shared it - now he's p*ssed.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 24 Sep - 20:00

Iris wrote:I don't think GA even needs to call on himself.

Remember, libel law in PT is much more civilised than it is here - the onus is not on GA to prove that the McCanns weren't libelled.  It's up to them to prove that they were.  Which up until now, they have spectacularly failed to do.
And as the judge said, two facts have been established: the dogs detecting odour of blood and cadaver.

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Post  cass on Tue 24 Sep - 20:16

oh if eddie and keela could have talked - wonder if the judge has seen the sun video

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Post  oversoon on Tue 24 Sep - 20:59

I work in the same industry ( and have at times worked for the same company / in the same building ) as Michael Wright.

A while ago, I noticed his linkedin profile carries very little info other than his current role ( it wasn't always that way - I credit this to the negative impact his association with the McCann story implies ):

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mike-wright/17/85a/711

If you are on linkedin, you can find this little gem ( his only recommendation ):

Alan Pike
Clinical Partner & Trauma Consultant

I first met Alan in May 2007 when Madeleine McCann was abducted in Portugal. In the midst of the most extreme grief, anger, horror and all under the glare of the world’s media, he provided Madeleines parents and extended family group, with calm support and empowered us all to take some control and focus on what needed to be done, and what our individual roles were. He always threw some light into what were the darkest of times; He kept things simple, but never patronised and his commitment was exceptional. There is no question that he was the absolute cornerstone of all the support mechanisms that were needed at that time. Don’t just take my word – read Madeleine’s mums book for a definitive reference.

May 18, 2011, Mike was Alan's client



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Post  tanszi on Tue 24 Sep - 21:42

gosh how these things work, MW > AP > the McCs and Missing People > K McC being Ambassador for Missing People.

of course these things might also be merely coincidental. jimo

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Post  fuzeta on Tue 24 Sep - 22:12

AnnaEsse wrote:
Iris wrote:I don't think GA even needs to call on himself.

Remember, libel law in PT is much more civilised than it is here - the onus is not on GA to prove that the McCanns weren't libelled.  It's up to them to prove that they were.  Which up until now, they have spectacularly failed to do.
And as the judge said, two facts have been established: the dogs detecting odour of blood and cadaver.
Also I see that Mr Wright said TWICE that in cases like this the parents are the first suspects(as reason for them being made arguidos) He thought he was doing them a favour saying that.  Well I don't think so

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Post  Guest on Tue 24 Sep - 22:14

oversoon wrote:I work in the same industry ( and have at times worked for the same company / in the same building ) as Michael Wright.

A while ago, I noticed his linkedin profile carries very little info other than his current role ( it wasn't always that way - I credit this to the negative impact his association with the McCann story implies ):

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mike-wright/17/85a/711

If you are on linkedin, you can find this little gem ( his only recommendation ):

Alan Pike
Clinical Partner & Trauma Consultant

I first met Alan in May 2007 when Madeleine McCann was abducted in Portugal. In the midst of the most extreme grief, anger, horror and all under the glare of the world’s media, he provided Madeleines parents and extended family group, with calm support and empowered us all to take some control and focus on what needed to be done, and what our individual roles were. He always threw some light into what were the darkest of times; He kept things simple, but never patronised and his commitment was exceptional. There is no question that he was the absolute cornerstone of all the support mechanisms that were needed at that time. Don’t just take my word – read Madeleine’s mums book for a definitive reference.

May 18, 2011, Mike was Alan's client


How very cosy. I hope the Portuguese judge knows all about Linkedin.

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Post  wjk on Wed 25 Sep - 12:21

oversoon wrote:I work in the same industry ( and have at times worked for the same company / in the same building ) as Michael Wright.

A while ago, I noticed his linkedin profile carries very little info other than his current role ( it wasn't always that way - I credit this to the negative impact his association with the McCann story implies ):

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mike-wright/17/85a/711

If you are on linkedin, you can find this little gem ( his only recommendation ):

Alan Pike
Clinical Partner & Trauma Consultant

I first met Alan in May 2007 when Madeleine McCann was abducted in Portugal. In the midst of the most extreme grief, anger, horror and all under the glare of the world’s media, he provided Madeleines parents and extended family group, with calm support and empowered us all to take some control and focus on what needed to be done, and what our individual roles were. He always threw some light into what were the darkest of times; He kept things simple, but never patronised and his commitment was exceptional. There is no question that he was the absolute cornerstone of all the support mechanisms that were needed at that time. Don’t just take my word – read Madeleine’s mums book for a definitive reference.

May 18, 2011, Mike was Alan's client


Well fancy that! Another coincidental connection!

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Post  jeanmonroe on Wed 25 Sep - 12:40

"I first met Alan in May 2007 when Madeleine McCann was abducted in Portugal"
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How dumb is Mr Wrong?

Not even the McCanns highly paid LAWYERS will say 'Madeleine WAS 'abducted'!

Maybe Mr Wrong should be giving the 'evidence' he obviously has, that 'Madeleine WAS 'abducted' not only to the NYP but SY as well!

Or maybe i should email the NYP/SY and tell them that Mr Wrong has made a statement that he knows Madeleine 'WAS 'abducted'

Screenshot this, Mr Wrong, you, self confessed, internet 'cyber stalker'! (or get one of your 'pranksters' to do it for you)

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Post  Panda on Wed 25 Sep - 22:14


Is that right that Clarence will not be a Witness???? He has been involved practically from the start and would probably know the MCanns more than most. As their spokesman so many times and being paid by the Fund you would think he would be only too willing to testify .....or does he know where to draw the line???

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 25 Sep - 22:30

I would think that, given his political aspirations, he'll be trying to create as much clear blue water between himself and the McCanns as possible. Just like Esther McVey did when she decided to stand for the Wirral.
Any continuing association with the McCanns will not do him any favours with the voters.

Which makes Silly Miliband's quote about Murdoch and the McCanns all the more strange and SO last decade.

However, if Clarrie was mad enough to turn up at the courthouse I'd LMAO.
And I'd pay serious money to be there.

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