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Post  dazedandconfused on Fri 25 Oct - 8:46

A former detective was interviewed this morning. Several times Portuguese police and appalling were used in the same sentence. He totally trashed the original investigation so we can all see where this is heading. Carpet, brush, sweep

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Post  almostgothic on Fri 25 Oct - 8:52

Who was this former detective?

Has he not read Sir Bernard Hogan Howe's staunch defence of the PJ?
If he hasn't, then he's not kept himself up to speed with current events.
And that means that his opinions are worth ZILCH.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 25 Oct - 9:07

According to another forum, this is who that was.
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Post  almostgothic on Fri 25 Oct - 9:15

Thanks NBY.

He's ex-SY - but clearly at odds with what the current Met boss is saying.

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Post  dazedandconfused on Fri 25 Oct - 9:56

almostgothic wrote:Who was this former detective?

Has he not read Sir Bernard Hogan Howe's staunch defence of the PJ?
If he hasn't, then he's not kept himself up to speed with current events.
And that means that his opinions are worth ZILCH.
I haven't read what Sir B has said either. I tend to gloss over anything anyone official says as I'm always sure it's going to be yet more propaganda, but is he referring to the current investigation or the original one. This former detective totally trashed the original investigation and he listed all the cock ups that were supposedly made, including not sealing the crime scene, not following up leads, the list went on and on. Makes a cynic wonder if this has anything at all to do with Snr Amaral's court case. Trash the original investigation and then whatever he's said in his book will truly hinder the search for the "abductor" as he was such a Keystone Kop who couldn't be believed about anything.

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Post  almostgothic on Fri 25 Oct - 10:43

If you haven't read Sir B's defence of the original investigation, dazed, then fair play to you!
I understand, because I happen to share your opinion about officialdom in general! And it can be wearisome trying to sort out the sincere wheat from the PR chaff. Not to mention the 'management-speak' that seems to go with the territory these days!

I just get so tired of these ex-cops being wheeled out by the media as authoritative McCann case experts. If people are being set up as experts then they should at least be aware of the Commissioner's statement, and even if they don't agree with him, at least have an appreciation of the importance and sensitivity of his statement at this time.
If SY and the PJ have worked hard building bridges of cooperation and good spirit, then it's a shame that others trample all over what has been achieved.

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Post  tanszi on Fri 25 Oct - 10:46

I m so sick and tired of all this bullshit from ex coppers. I think there are two people who are ultimately responsible for what happened to Madeleine, theyre her parents.

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Post  dazedandconfused on Fri 25 Oct - 11:34

tanszi wrote:I m so sick and tired of all this bullshit from ex coppers. áI think there are two people who are ultimately responsible for what happened to Madeleine, theyre her parents.
Quite right and even if they succeed in convincing us that a nasty man came and ran away with Madeleine WHY weren't they there to care for their children. Totally their fault whichever story they go with.

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Post  almostgothic on Fri 25 Oct - 11:50

Quite right.
Even if their abductor story was anywhere near true (as if), there was still no-one in loco parentis - no alternative arrangement organised by the parents.

In tapas parentis is what they were all about.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 25 Oct - 12:01

I'm not tarring all ex-policemen with the same brush of course but, when you think of the likes of Jim Gamble, Ian Horrocks http://www.herald.ie/news/childless-couple-took-maddie-says-top-cop-28006813.html and Mark Williams-Thomas, we can only be thankful that they aren't still in the police force.

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Re: BBC this morning

Post  tanszi on Fri 25 Oct - 12:36

hiya NBY no im not tarnishing all ex coppers with the same brush either, but in the essence of fair reporting, journalism etc., if theyre going to quote one who say this, then really there should be another saying that. wont happen!

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 25 Oct - 12:40

I'd love the retired police officer who wrote this to state his case on TV!
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Post  mara thon on Fri 25 Oct - 12:44

I know a lot of policemen both retired and some still serving, but I don't know a single one who believes the McCann fairy tales. Who is it that tracks down all these ex cops to speak for the Mccanns, and more to the point, why?

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Post  tanszi on Fri 25 Oct - 13:37

it doesn't really matter though because the crime watch programme was apparently the catalyst for over 100,000 looking up McCann files. The more publicity there is, ther more people are moving from not this again to lets find out what its all about then.

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Post  fred on Fri 25 Oct - 13:40

All this spinning and comments from the Mccanns are giving me quite a lot of hope!!!

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Post  pennylane on Fri 25 Oct - 14:08

fred wrote:All this spinning and comments from the Mccanns are giving me quite a lot of hope!!!
They do seem paranoid don't they?

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Post  widowan on Fri 25 Oct - 16:13

mara thon wrote:I know a lot of policemen both retired and some still serving, but I don't know a single one who believes the McCann fairy tales. áWho is it that tracks down all these ex cops to speak for the Mccanns, and more to the point, why?
Cops do seem to be a suspicious lot.

These ex SY cops and all these talking heads want their 15 minutes of fame. It's easy to back seat drive, but his opinion of the PJ case will be irrelevant to Amaral's libel trial.

Trying cases in the media is kind of like those old witch hunts of days gone by or the wild west hanging of cattle rustlers, no due process, just string em up.

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Post  SteveT on Fri 25 Oct - 23:31

And I assume that these ex-cops get a fee for their interviews? No point in getting paid only to be sued, so take the easy route.

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Re: BBC this morning

Post  almostgothic on Fri 25 Oct - 23:37

For what some of these ex-cops are worth, they should get paid in truncheon meat sandwiches.

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