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More than 1 way of skinning a cat
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Abdul Rahman Shalgam to Al Arabiya "Musa Kusa is the spinal cord of Gaddafi's regime, he is the key of keys & the code of codes" #Libya
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Abdul Rahman Shalgam to Al Arabiya "Musa Kusa's defection signifies the end of Gaddafi's regime" "I am not surprised by this news" #Libya
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Abdul Rahman Shalgam, former Libyan Ambassador at the UN to Al Arabiya "Musa Kusa is the Blackbox of the Libyan regime" #Libya
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carmen wrote:More than 1 way of skinning a catSultanAlQassemi
Abdul Rahman Shalgam to Al Arabiya "Musa Kusa is the spinal cord of Gaddafi's regime, he is the key of keys & the code of codes" #Libya
less than 10 seconds ago via web
@SultanAlQassemi
Abdul Rahman Shalgam to Al Arabiya "Musa Kusa's defection signifies the end of Gaddafi's regime" "I am not surprised by this news" #Libya
half a minute ago via web
Abdul Rahman Shalgam, former Libyan Ambassador at the UN to Al Arabiya "Musa Kusa is the Blackbox of the Libyan regime" #Libya
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I was just about to post a report on Musa from sky news. I would like to think it is rats deserting a sinking ship, but the rebellion seems to be faltering
and many "rebels" are running away. I can"t see Gadaffi being willing to leave Libya , he will fight to the death and politically knows the Nato no fly
zone is not sufficient to stop him.
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British Foreign Minister now saying that Moussa Koussa has not been promised immunity & has travelled to London of his own free will.
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Breaking News,
Rebels facing ferocious attack in Ajdabiya from Gaddafi tanks and are retreating. They want Air cover but obviously the UN Mandate is supposed to
be to protect Civilians , not Rebels. Nato have taken over complete control but Rebels say they are pleased that Obama is sending CIA Operatives
to help out.
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I follow this tweep, who's an ex air-force pilot who flew with Italian Air Force and is now an aviation journalist. He's been giving detailed de-briefs after each day of the coalition forces ops in Libya. Here's yesterday's:
http://cencio4.wordpress.com/
Operation Unified Protector (was Odyssey Dawn) explained (Day 11) March 30, 2011
Let me start Day 11 Debrief with a provocation: is the partial retreat of the rebel fighters, who found the fierce opposition of the pro-Gaddafi forces on their westward advance, a consequence of a more cautious use of the force caused by the change of command? Obviously, my guess is far-fetched and my aim is only to stimulate debate but I think that when NATO will finally take over the full control of the war (arms embargo, No-Fly Zone, ground attacks to protect civilians), an accurate selection of targets in order to keep Unified Protector within the mandate of the UN resolution could somehow slow down the oppositors who, in the last days, had obtained important gains also because of the intervention (someone said “cover”) of the coalition aircraft. Pentagon spokesman Vice Adm Bill Gortney said that the military gains made by rebels would be tenuos because, not being part of a military corps, they are not well organised.
Noteworthy is the news that Unified Protector saw its first maritime strike during Day 11: a U.S. Navy P-3C patrol aircraft, an A-10 from the 81FS deployed to Aviano, and guided-missile destroyer USS Barry (DDG-52) engaged a Libyan Coast Guard vessel Vittoria and two smaller crafts after confirmed reports that Vittoria and accompanying craft were firing indiscriminately at merchant vessels in the port of Misrata, Libya, during the evening Mar. 28, 2011. According to the press release of AFRICOM, the P-3C fired an unspecified number of AGM-65F Maverick missile (infrared targeting version optimized for ship tracking) at Vittoria, after multiple explosions were observed in the vicinity of the port, forcing the 12-meter patrol vessel to be beached. An A-10, using its 30mm GAU-8/Avenger gatling cannon destroyed one the two small craft rendering the other one ineffective (it was later abandoned) while Barry guided-missile destroyer managed the airspace and mantained the maritime picture providing attacking aircraft with the required situational awareness.
Let me underline two key things of this action:
it’s somehow weird to notice that in a strike involving both A-10s and AGM-65 Mavericks, the “Warthog” was not the platform used to fire the Maverick missile as the A-10/AGM-65 is considered one of the most deadly couple (in anti-tank warfare, obviously).
it’s likely that the PSYOPS message directed to naval officers and sailors of Libyan military ships (the one I’ve discussed a couple of days ago) was addressed to both Vittoria and other pro-Gaddafi vessels that were threatening merchand ships. Most probably, considering the number of PSYOPS messages that were recorded by the radio ham community in the last days, before and after the successful attack against Vittoria, there is still some Libyan naval activity in the vicinity of the port of Misratah.
Other interesting things, informations and thoughts:
1) Around 18.55 LT, AFP news agency reported the news of seven explosions shaking Tajoura, Tripoli. A resident told that planes fired missiles at a military radar installation, while another reported seeing flames and a column of smoke afterwards. Looks like that some mobile/hidden radars are still active in the eastern suburb of Tajoura, where the AGM-88 HARM missile fin was found as explained in yesterday Debrief.
In Monday’s press update VADM Gortney gave some interesting details about the SAM activities recorded by the coalition:
We also struck some pre-planned targets around Tripoli and Sabha, mostly ammunition stores and bunkers, though we did take out an SA-6 mobile surface-to-air missile site in Tripoli as well. I’m told, over the last 24 hours, the coalition has flown 178 sorties, the majority of which were strike related. And just as I briefed you on Friday, our coalition partners continue to increase their participation.
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Last night, we have reporting of a — what we think is a ballistic missile launch of maybe an SA-2 or an SA-3. It was a pilot’s in-flight report. We’re investigating that. That’s the only one that I’m aware of.
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I will tell you, as a — as an aviator, every time you’re flying over hostile countries, you’re assuming you’re being shot at. The triple-A [anti-aircraft artillery] — there’s a lot of aimed triple-As up there and unaimed triple-As and — as well as a significant number in the thousands of MANPADs [man-portable air-defense systems], IR [infrared] missiles. Those are the threats, and they’re looking for them. And you have to assume that they’re coming out there. But of the reports, we only — I only know of that one from last night.
2) La Repubblica.it website unveiled in its daily Libya Live updates that during the night of 28th and 29th, an F-16 deployed to Aviano and involved in Unified Protector declared emergency on arrival at Aviano. Even if the aircraft landed safely, the emergency plan was activated most probably because the aircraft uses Hydrazine, a colorless liquid (for more info click here) that feeds the electrical systems and the EPU (Emergency Power Unit) in case of engine failure. Should a flame-out occur, hydraulic and electrical systems are fed by the electrical current generated by the EPU, activated by the engine or by a system propelled by hydrazine. Hydrazine is highly toxic and highly inflammable, and can be dangerous for the health of whom is accidentally exposed to it. Each squadron and airbase equipped with F-16s must be able to manage engine emergencies requiring the EPU using methodologies that do not leave space to improvisation. For more information on how the Hydrazine emergency plan developed at Cervia airbase in 2004, when the base hosted the F-16s of the 23° Gruppo can be found here.
3) The RDAF has dropped 81 bombs providing 5% of the overall effort. Most important, the post-strike reconnaissance shows that no collateral damages were caused by the Danish. As of March 28, Norwegian aircraft had participated in 9 missions engaging military ground targets. On a Day 11 briefing, the UK Chief of Defence Staff’s Strategic Communication Officer, Maj-Gen John Lorimer, said that in the morning 2 Tornado GR4s operating out of Gioia del Colle conducted armed reconnaissance and combat air patrols over Libya. “During the mission near Misratah, one Libyan armoured fighting vehicle and two artillery pieces were engaged with Brimstone missiles. Initial reports indicate that the engagements were successful”. Two missions were flown by the RAF Typhoons providing combat air patrols. CAF Hornets destroyed an ammo depot 92 km south of Misratah in the night of Day 10 and 11, while on Day 11 one of two CP-140s now deployed flew its first Maritime patrol sortie off the Libyan coasts.
Dealing with the Italian contribution to Unified Protector, on Mar. 29 the activity comprised two missions of Eurofighter F-2000A Typhoons belonging to the 4° Stormo which performed CAP (Combat Air Patrols): the first one took off at 11.00LT and landed at 13.30LT, while the second took off at 12.30LT and landed at 14.30LT. Two maritime air defence missions were flown by pairs of AV-8B+ Harriers of the Italian Navy operating out of the Italian aircraft carrier Garibaldi. Two missions involving 2 Tornado ECRs and air-to-air refueling platforms (KC-130J and Tornado IDS) were flown too.
4) FAF is continuing its support to the QEAF Mirage 2000s based in Souda Bay with 4 Mirages deployed there that are flying two daily CAP missions along with two Qatari fighters. As the French MoD (kudos for the information and pictures, like those on these pages, rendered available through its website) underlines, between the two air forces there’s a strong relationship: since January 2011, two French fighter pilots are assigned to Qatari squadrons (flying Mirage 2000-5 and Alphajet); furthermore, bilateral tactical training period lasting two weeks is regularly held in Qatar as happened in 2010, with Exercise “Al Koot” held in Qatar from Nov. 26 to Dec. 16.
The evening of 28 March was marked by a strike carried out on an ammunition dump located in the region Gharyan, some 100 km south of Tripoli which saw the partecipation of 5 Rafales, 4 Mirage 2000Ds and 1 Super Etendard supported by C-135s and E-2 Hawkeye. On Mar 29, a similar force, supported by 4 tankers and 1 E-3F, hit a SAM site located at a hundred kilometers southwest of Tripoli. Reconnaissance was provided by 2 Rafales from Charles De Gaulle aircraft carried and 2 Mirage F-1CRs with recon pods operating out of Solenzara airport.
5) Sweden is about to deploy a contingent that should be made of 8 JAS 39 Gripen from 1′st div F17 at Ronneby and a supporting C-130 and one S-102B Gulfstream IV (ELINT platform). As someone emphasized, the arrival of the Gripen in the Mediterranean, marks the arrival of the 4th (maybe 5th if we consider also the UAE F-16E/F Block 60) contender in the Indian Air Force Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) Competition….
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Operation Unified Protector (was Odyssey Dawn) explained (Day 12) March 31, 2011
It’s somehow clear that the coalition aircraft are playing an important role not only enforcing the No-Fly Zone over Libya or protecting the civilians from being attacked by Gaddafi’s forces, but also and above all in marking the extent of the rebel’s gains or retreats. If and when allied aircraft strike loyalist forces, the oppositors are able to advance in spite of their equipment or (lack of) organisation; when, like it seemed to happen during most of Day 12, the number and intensity of strikes on ground tagets decreases, the rebels are compelled to beat a rapid eastward retreat. Some explained the series of gains and subsequent retreats as a sign that Air Power is not enough when not backed by a direct ground intervention while, in my honest opinion, at least in this theatre, it’s the opposite. For the moment, it’s not a problem of being on the ground but a problem of being compelled to strike targets within the mandate of a United Nations resolution that gives little chance for offensive or pre-emptive operations required to render Gaddafi unable to harm his own people.
Furthermore, one of hyphothesis that is being (or at least could be) discussed among the coalition partners is the possibility to provide arms and other equipment to the rebels. During late evening of Mar. 30, news agencies reported that, according to sources, the CIA has been authorised to covertly support the oppositors by Barack Obama. Even if I don’t know if giving some arms (what exactly?) would be something permitted by the UN resolution, I wonder if it is really a good idea. As far as we have understood so far, the real problem of the rebels is not the lack of arms (some of which were collected during the first stages of the uprising) but a military know-how, organisation, tactics and everything that usually requires some years of training.
There’s also another problem. Intelligence agencies have already issued some warnings of the danger terrorist infiltration among the rebels. The NATO Secretary General Rasmussen said yesterday that a Libya disintegrating and becoming a haven for terrorists is the outcome’s worst-case scenario. Would you give the rebels some advanced equipment before they are able to isolate the extremist elements among them?
Anyway, BBC summarized the key action of Mar. 30 as follows:
Rebels have pulled out of the key oil town of Ras Lanuf, as well as Bin Jawad and Uqayla and are retreating from Brega after forces loyal to Colonel Muammar Gaddafi advanced further east, bombarding rebel positions with rockets.
In the western city of Misrata, fierce fighting is continuing. Troops loyal to Col Gaddafi stormed the city on Tuesday, firing shells. One doctor says more than 140 people have been killed.
Coalition air strikes are again reported to have hit the capital, Tripoli, overnight. The reports say Gaddafi’s compound was targeted and there have also been explosions reported on military targets in the suburb of Tajura.
Credit: BBC (left); ACIG.org (right, showing a JDAM dropped in Tajura on Mar.29).
Other interesting things, informations and thoughts:
1) Moussa Koussa, Libyan Foreign Ministry and one of the most senior figures in Gaddafi’s government defected to the UK. According to @FMCNL that was able to get some details on Koussa’s flight, he departed Djerba Zarzis International Airport Tunisia about 11.45 UTC with flight FPG362 Gulfstream 200 registration HB-JGL and landed at 15.00UTC in RAF Farnborough.
2) The US Air Force released some more information about the Global Power mission undertaken by two B-1Bs providing some interesting pictures of the aircraft taking off in the snow from Ellsworth AFB located some 10 miles northeast of Rapid City in South Dakota.
“Nearly 700 Ellsworth Airmen are currently deployed around the world supporting existing overseas contingency operations,” said Col. Jeffrey Taliaferro, 28th Bomb Wing commander, “But this week, the nation called again, and the Airmen of Ellsworth rallied and answered.”
With less than two days from first notice to takeoff, Ellsworth Airmen generated several aircraft and hundreds of weapons to provide the combat configuration needed halfway across the globe. A challenging task in the best of conditions, their work was made especially difficult by dismal weather, including four inches of snow, glare ice, and freezing fog.
If notification came with a prior advice of 2 days, we can affirm these aircraft were not launched to strike “targets of opportunity”….
While the specific targets of this historic mission could not be disclosed, officials stated that coalition forces are striking targets that pose a direct threat either to the civilian population or to partner nation aircraft enforcing the no-fly zone. Targets such as Libyan military sites and air defense systems have been carefully selected to reduce their attack capabilities while minimizing risk to the civilian population.
Of note, this mission marked the first time the B-1 fleet has launched combat sorties from the continental United States to strike targets overseas.
3) Yesterday I praised French MoD for providing up-to-date information and picture (as those published below). Unfortunately, other air forces involved in the Unified Protector operation are not doing the same giving out only very few details. Others, like the Norwegians (as Aksel Magdahl brought to my attention), seemed to have changed their media strategy and after providing interesting details have chosen to assume a “lower profile” giving only total figures. For instance RNoAF has completed 14 missions so far while RDAF has completed 35 ones. Both were involved in strikes against ground targets. Belgians have been involved in air-to-ground activities as the video released on Youtube shows.
Italian Air Force flew 3 missions involving 2x Tornado ECRs each and 2 missions of NFZ enforcement with 2x Typhoons. The ItAF aircraft were refueled by 156° Gruppo/6° Stormo Tornado IDS deployed to Trapani (opened again for 4 civil planes for a total 18 daily routes on Mar.30). The Italian Navy flew 4 sorties with AV-8B+ from Garibaldi aircraft carrier.
Dealing with the French activity, in the evening of Mar. 29 a package made of two formations of 2x Rafale, two formations of 2x Mirage 2000D and 2x Super-Etendard modernisés (SEM), supported by 2x C-135 and 1x E-2, carried out a strike mission on a military depot located some 30 km south of Tripoli while a Rafale flight from Charles De Gaulle performed a reconnaissance mission. On Mar. 30, some of the aircraft belonging to a package made by 2 Rafale formations, 1 Mirage 2000D formation and a joint formation made by Rafale and Super Etendards destroyed a SAM site located about 20 km south of Sirte. From Souda Bay, a formation made by 2 French Mirages and 4 Qatari Mirage 2000-5s performed a Combat Air Patrol in the Libyan airspace.
4) The RNlAF is currently performing missions out of Decimomannu for the enforcement of the NFZ. A US reader of this blog, Sean Harrington, sent me a message recently to inform me that, by means of a web radio streaming KLu training missions on the Internet during the last week he heard the Dutch F-16 performing an air-to-air training sortie simulating the interception of a Libyan cargo violating the No-Fly Zone.
He’s the story:
Pilot 1 called out to the aircraft saying they were violating UN Resolution 1973 and to respond. PILOT 1 called out to “Libyan Air Force Antonov 12 Tail number J367″. This happened two more times. Finally another voice, with an all together different accent (that I associate with my time in Turkey), came on and said “This is my country, I will fly where I want”. PILOT 1 instructed the aircraft to fly heading 360, to which he replied “I am flying south” PILOT 1 called back ” You are violation of UN Resolution 1973, failure to comply will result in violence being rained upon you”. A minute later PILOT 2 called out “you have been intercepted, fly heading 360″
[...]
I didn’t hear anything for another 15 minutes, when I heard PILOT 1 call out “hostile 1 o’clock”… 30 seconds later … “fox 3″ followed shortly by “fox 3 kill, mirage f1″
Then the channel then went dead, as if the scanner had changed freqs.
[...]
In retrospect the radio traffic was very clear for the two fighters and supposed an12, i can only conclude this must have been an exercise.
Call signs I heard was either SHARK 1. It was as if i was only hearing one side of the radio traffic.
It all sounded very real, I only wish I had recorded it.
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Revolutionaries in Misurata display Israeli-made weapons taken from Gaddafi troops. #Libya
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Military analyst on Aljazeera says he is expecting "deep changes" next week.
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#Gaddafi envoy in #London for secret talks earlier this week. Mohammed Ismail (close to Seif)
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UPDATE 1-Jazeera says more Gaddafi aides leave Libya
Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:31pm GMT
Print | Single Page[-] Text [+] CAIRO, March 31 (Reuters) - Al Jazeera television said on Thursday that "a number of figures" close to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi had left Libya for Tunis, a day after Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa defected and flew to London.
A spokesman for the Tunisian foreign ministry said he had no information on the matter. A Libyan government spokesman was not immediately available for comment.
Citing unnamed sources, Al Jazeera said the group included the chairman of Libya's National Oil Corporation Shokri Ghanem.
Earlier on Thursday, Ghanem said he was in Libya: "I am in Tripoli and I am in my office," he told Reuters in a telephone interview.
Also named by Al Jazeera were the speaker of Libya's General People's Congress Mohamed Abdul Qasim al-Zwai, foreign intelligence chief Abuzeid Dorda and Abdelati al-Obaidi, a senior diplomat in charge of European affairs.
Libyan Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa, one of Gaddafi's closest advisers and a former spy chief, defected and flew to Britain on Wednesday in protest at attacks by Gaddafi's forces on civilians. (Reporting by Isabel Coles; Editing by Andrew Roche)
http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFLDE72U2JE20110331
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9:47pm
Scottish authorities said they wanted to interview former Libyan foreign minister Moussa Koussa over the 1988 Lockerbie bombing.
This could be all the evidence that we wanted given to us on a silver platter.
British officials are hoping that Koussa will provide vital military and diplomatic intelligence, campaigners want him to shed light on the bombing which killed 259 people.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-31
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@ksnavarra Senior #Libya defectors are reportedly engaged in desperate calls to #London and #Rome seeking safe passage and 'immunity'
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ALERT: Yesterday's tweets CONFIRMED: #Libya defectors in #Tunisia are Shokri Ghanem, Abuzeid Dorda, Qassim Al-Zwai. Announced on AJE
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Your doing a great job carmen, thanks so much
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Once prosperous, Libyan city now bears many scars of war
From Frederik Pleitgen and Jonathan Wald, CNN
March 31, 2011 5:16 p.m. EDT
Misrata, Libya (CNN) -- Five weeks of battle and Misrata looks grim. Bullets have made Swiss cheese of buildings. Wreckage litters streets that are empty save opposition fighters desperately defending their city against Moammar Gadhafi's heavy armor.
The Libyan leader laid siege to the nation's third largest and most prosperous city after opposition fighters took control here. Just two hours east of Tripoli, it was the final rebel stronghold in the West.
Now it is a city of fear, uncertainty and human suffering.
International reporters had not been able to access central Misrata and many of CNN's reports were cobbled together from interviews with witnesses and doctors. That was until Wednesday, when CNN journalists were able to reach the city by boat.
The fishing trawler was commissioned by two wealthy Libyan businessman from England to carry 150 tons of food, medicine and other basic supplies. A heart surgeon on board said he wants to do everything he can to help: Libya is in "mortal danger" and he could not stand by without doing his share.
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Gadhafi's tank-supported forces lob shells into Misrata from their encampments. Rooftop snipers take aim at civilians from the Libyan Insurance Company building, Misrata's tallest, on Tripoli Street in the heart of the city. A green flag flutters atop, signifying support for Gadhafi.
One Misrata resident says Gadhafi's men are going door-to-door evicting and terrorizing people. It's "utter madness," he said Thursday, fearing a massacre.
Bullets zing through the air. Tension hangs thick and heavy.
An opposition fighter celebrates atop the carcass of a tank. Another shows the consequences of Gadhafi's heavy hand -- destroyed schools, restaurants, gas stations, fire stations.
Gadhafi's foes say they are outgunned and fight back with the few weapons they possess, including rifles and rocket-propelled grenades. They provided CNN with a video of a man disabling a tank with a rocket-propelled grenade launcher.
Despite the weapons disparity, the opposition has held onto an enclave in the city for several weeks. It's difficult, day to day, to know where the battlefront will be.
The evidence of war mounts everywhere.
At a relocated orphanage, children, traumatized by bombs and bullets, rock back and forth chanting "Allahu Akbar." God is Great.
At a school, entire families displaced from their homes find comfort in one another. They have nothing else left of their lives, says Masoud el-Masoudi, who came to the shelter a week ago with his wife and three children after their house on Benghazi Street was shelled.
At a makeshift refugee camp next to the port, Libya's largest, foreign workers trapped in the nation's war simply try to survive each day. They are from places like Niger, Ivory Coast, Ghana and Egypt. They have nothing but the bread people bring them to feed their aching bellies, says Masahudu Idris, 29, of Ghana. The shops are empty and there is no food they can buy, he says.
At the central hospital -- where men, women and children lie in crowded rooms, forever scarred -- doctors work around the clock without proper equipment, medicine or even anesthesia.
"We don't go from here," says Dr. Ali el-Misrati. "We sleep here. We live here now."
The chief of the hospital, Dr. Mohammed Fortia, says 398 people have been killed in Misrata since the Libyan conflict began last month. Five were killed Wednesday, he says. He fears more have died. The hospital just doesn't know about them.
Mohammed, 12, and his older brother were wounded when mortars hit their home. Mohammed lost several fingers on his left hand. His right hand is gone. His father vows revenge.
"Gadhafi should be killed," he says.
A man who can do this to his people, Mohammed's father says, must not be human.
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Revealed: Gaddafi envoy in Britain for secret talks
Exclusive: Contact with senior aide believed to be one of a number between Libyan officials and west amid signs regime may be looking for exit strategy
All today's developments in Libya
Libyan fixer's visit to London may show sons want way out
Those who have defected – and those who still support Gaddafi
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Supporters of the Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi stage a rally in Tripoli. Photograph: Zohra Bensemra/Reuters
Colonel Gaddafi's regime has sent one of its most trusted envoys to London for confidential talks with British officials, the Guardian can reveal.
Mohammed Ismail, a senior aide to Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam, visited London in recent days, British government sources familiar with the meeting have confirmed. The contacts with Ismail are believed to have been one of a number between Libyan officials and the west in the last fortnight, amid signs that the regime may be looking for an exit strategy.
Disclosure of Ismail's visit comes in the immediate aftermath of the defection to Britain of Moussa Koussa, Libya's foreign minister and its former external intelligence head, who has been Britain's main conduit to the Gaddafi regime since the early 1990s.
A team led by the British ambassador to Libya, Richard Northern, and MI6 officers embarked on a lengthy debriefing of Koussa at a safe house after he flew into Farnborough airport on Wednesday night from Tunisia. Government sources said the questioning would take time because Koussa's state of mind was "delicate" after he left his family in Libya.
The Foreign Office has declined "to provide a running commentary" on contacts with Ismail or other regime officials. But news of the meeting comes amid mounting speculation that Gaddafi's sons, foremost among them Saif al-Islam, Saadi and Mutassim, are anxious to talk. "There has been increasing evidence recently that the sons want a way out," said a western diplomatic source.
Although he has little public profile in Libya or internationally, Ismail is recognised by diplomats as being a key fixer and representative for Saif al-Islam. According to cables published by WikiLeaks, Ismail represented Libya's government in arms purchase negotiations and as an interlocutor on military and political issues.
"The message that was delivered to him is that Gaddafi has to go, and that there will be accountability for crimes committed at the international criminal court," a Foreign Office spokesman told the Guardian , declining to elaborate on what else may have been discussed.
Some aides working for Gaddafi's sons, however, have made it clear that it may be necessary to sideline their father and explore exit strategies to prevent the country descending into anarchy.
One idea the sons have reportedly suggested – which the Guardian has been unable to corroborate – is that Gaddafi give up real power. Mutassim, presently the country's national security adviser, would become president of an interim national unity government which would include the opposition. It is an idea, however, unlikely to find support among the rebels or the international community who are demanding Gaddafi's removal.
The revelation that contacts between Britain and a key Gaddafi loyalist had taken place came as David Cameron hailed the defection of Koussa as a sign the regime was crumbling. "It tells a compelling story of the desperation and the fear right at the very top of the crumbling and rotten Gaddafi regime," he said.
Ministers regard Koussa's move to abandon his family as a sign of the magnitude of his decision. "Moussa Koussa is very worried about his family," one source said. "But he did this because he felt it was the best way of bringing down Gaddafi."
Britain learned that Koussa wanted to defect when he made contact from Tunisia. He had made his way out of Libya in a convoy of cars after announcing he was going on a diplomatic mission to visit the new government in Tunis.
It was also reported that Ali Abdussalam Treki, a senior Libyan diplomat, declined to take up his appointment by Gaddafi as UN ambassador, condemning the "spilling of blood". Officials were checking reports that Tarek Khalid Ibrahim, the deputy head of mission in London, is also defecting.
The prime minister insisted that no deal had been struck with Koussa and that he would not be offered immunity from prosecution. "Let me be clear, Moussa Koussa is not being granted immunity. There is no deal of that kind," Cameron said. Within hours of his arrival in Britain, Scottish prosecutors asked to interview Koussa about the 1988 Lockerbie bombing. The Crown Office in Edinburgh has said that it is formally asking for its prosecutors and police detectives to question him.
But government sources indicated that Britain does not believe Koussa was involved. He was at the heart of Britain's rapprochement with Libya, which started when Tripoli abandoned its support for the IRA in the early 1990s.
He was instrumental in persuading Gaddafi to abandon his weapons of mass destruction programme in 2003. One source said: "Nobody is saying this guy was a saint, because he was a key Gaddafi lieutenant who was kicked out of Britain in 1980 for making threats to kill Libyan dissidents. But this is the guy who persuaded Gaddafi to abandon his WMD programme. He no doubt has useful and interesting things to say about Lockerbie, but it doesn't seem he said 'go and do it'."
However there is unease among Tories about Britain's involvement in Libya. Underlining those concerns, Boris Johnson, the London mayor, told BBC Question Time that a continued stalemate in Libya could "have terrible consequences". Johnson said; "I do worry that if we get into a stalemate; and if, frankly, the rebels don't seem to be making the progress that we would like, we have to be brave, to say to ourselves that our policy is not working, and encourage the Arabs themselves to take leadership in all of this."
William Hague, the foreign secretary, said he had a sense that Koussa was deeply unhappy with Gaddafi when they spoke last Friday. "One of the things I gathered between the lines in my telephone calls with him, although he of course had to read out the scripts of the regime, was that he was very distressed and dissatisfied by the situation there," Hague said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/31/gaddaf-envoy-britain-secret-talks-exit-strategy
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Thanks Carmen, looks promising......although why Britain has to be the cipher for all this intrigue is not very clever, could rebound on us in future.
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Another Arabic article (google translation)
http://www.alraimedia.com/Alrai/Article.aspx?id=266362&date=01042011
Britain refuses to grant him immunity and Scotland want to question him on «Lockerbie»
Sanusi plots and insult Mu'tasim behind the split Cossa for Gaddafi
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System encounters Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, a new setback, Wednesday, with the defection of the Libyan Foreign Minister Musa Kusa, in Tripoli of the reduced importance of the matter.
The Cossa, who personified for two decades the dark side of the system, and has become in recent years, a symbol of openness, of close loyal to Colonel, and fought in the past years all the negotiations that allowed the return of Libya to the international arena, the introduction of the pressures and plots Boxers, led by Abdullah Sanusi, smelting Gaddafi, the Prime Minister Baghdadi Mahmoudi, and intelligence chief Abu Zaid Dorda, isolation and have limited role.
So that the Mutassim Gadhafi swore Cossa, after he announced welcome Tripoli, the Security Council resolution number 1973, and his call not to attack the city of Benghazi, a stronghold of the revolution, so as not to be a reason to launch the international coalition military operation against the Libyan regime, which sparked Gaddafi also, which came out On the second day, to say «hell» in the UN resolution.
Believes circles Western, that Cossa-winning master's degree in sociology from the University of Michigan in 1978, collided with Thurs-Gaddafi, who was Cossa expensive training and preparation to take over that position diplomatically high-level, what the latest rift in the relationship between the former foreign minister and president.
Is also accused of close to Gaddafi Cossa, a middle class family known from the Tajura in Tripoli, or tribal affiliation to him, that he embezzled $ 200 million, through a deal to buy hotels and resorts with Syrian businessmen and Arabs.
In London, Foreign Minister William Hague yesterday, that Britain did not grant Cossa, who asked for political asylum, any immunity may prevent the future but not brought to justice.
It is believed by political observers, that at a time in which the British government considered Cossa (64 years), Sidon fat, it is a source of concern for Prime Minister David Cameron, in view of the roles of the sensitive Played in the past, including the post of intelligence chief who believes that his relationship the process of the Lockerbie bombing in 1988, but is accused of being «mastermind» of the process, in addition to being the mastermind of the bombing of a French airliner in Central Africa.
The high that former Secretary of State «came to Britain voluntarily on a flight Airlines Swiss Tunisia landed at the airport Faranbrh South London», considering it a sign that the Gaddafi regime «split apart and the reality of under pressure and take the collapse from the inside».
Marked the exit Cossa to Tunisia with the statement made by then U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, saying that «the senior Libyan officials were trying to contact the West in an apparent attempt to search for the possible exit strategy from combat operations».
It is believed that Britain and the International Alliance supervisor of the military campaign, will be used to dismantle the Cosa Gaddafi regime from within. Information is owned by priceless.
The British government expelled Cossa, following the announcement in a newspaper interview in 1980 in his capacity as Chairman of the Libyan diplomatic mission in London about the intention of Gaddafi's regime for the liquidation of «two opponents who had been living in London at the time».
It is noteworthy that Cossa is accused of being responsible for the disappearance of opposition Mansour Kikhia, who was abducted in Cairo in the nineties, found no effect on him so far.
Among other statements, which bothered the British government at the time, the Declaration of Kusa, Libya will be arming «Irish Republican Army» in the territory of the separatist Northern Ireland, unless the British government to hand over opposition to Tripoli.
Also known for Musa Kusa, arming for «Red Brigades» in Italy, and some terrorist organizations around the world.
He played a key role in the negotiations that took place between the Libyan regime and British governments and local communities in Scotland for the release of the convicted Libyan Lockerbie bombing Baset al-Megrahi (announced elimination of Scotland yesterday that he wanted to question him), in addition to its role in two important first to reach the payment of compensation to the families of Lockerbie victims , and the second revealed to Libya for its production of weapons of mass destruction and delivery of the West, the files relating to this program, where more than weave strong ties with U.S. officials, French and working with them closely in the fight against terrorism, provoking the ire of the leaders in the Libyan regime.
According to Western reports, including reports that revealed by the «Wikileaks» were classified Cossa by Western diplomats in Tripoli, as the most powerful political figure after Gaddafi and his sons, makes his escape and his coming to Britain blow to the system, as well as a psychological factor effective to increase the the morale of the rebels.
He said Musa Ibrahim, a spokesman for the Gaddafi regime, Cossa resignation Wednesday, said: «Cosa request to go to Tunisia to receive medical treatment. I have got the ear. Then we heard that he decided to resign from office. This personal decision. Libya does not depend on individuals ». He added that «Libya will not be affected by» this schism.
He denied the other hand information I talked about the division of other figures and leave the country to Tunisia, such as Dorda and Parliament Speaker Mohammad Zoe.
http://www.alraimedia.com/Alrai/Article.aspx?id=266362&date=01042011
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Gaddafi forces sow landmines in east Libya
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BENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) - Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's forces have sown land mines in areas around the city of Ajdabiyah, adding a dangerous new element to the war on the eastern front, human rights and mine experts said on Thursday.
The mines include Brazilian-made anti-personnel mines and Egyptian-made anti-tank mines.
Two minefields were discovered by monitors in the days following last Saturday's retreat from Ajdabiyah by Gaddafi's troops and appear to be have been laid during their 10-day occupation of the crossroads town 150 km (90 miles) south of the rebel capital Benghazi.
His forces have since reversed the retreat with a counter-attack and were at the gates of Ajdabiyah once again on Thursday.
The first field was sown around electricity pylons a few yards off the Ajdabiyah-Benghazi road in an area of sand near the town's Eastern Gate, Peter Bouckaert, a Human Rights Watch monitor in Benghazi, told Reuters.
An electrical repair truck hit a mine there on Monday and then another as men tried to pull it out, he said. There were no casualties.
Mine clearers marked out 24 anti-tank mines and 30 to 40 anti-personnel mines, he said, adding that many vehicles and people on foot pass by the area.
A second field with a similar number of mines was found near a clutch of buildings about a kilometre away.
The use of landmines brings a dangerous new dimension to the conflict that has been fought over 100s of kilometres up and down Libya's main coastal highway linking the east and the west.
The rebel army, made up largely of untrained volunteers and a cavalcade of supporters, is highly undisciplined and is scattered over a wide area behind the vanguard.
Bouckaert said his team had also found stocks of mines abandoned by Gaddafi's forces.
"We found 12 warehouses of anti-vehicle mines in Benghazi, tens of thousands of them," he said.
They also came across 35 warehouses full of munitions in Ajdabiyah. They held no stocks of landmines but had vast quantities of artillery shells, mortar bombs and anti-tank missiles.
Libya has not signed the 1997 Mines Ban Treaty, which in any case does not prohibit the use of anti-vehicle mines.
"The only mines that are banned are the anti-personnel mines so they can put as many anti-tank mines as they like. It's part of the game," said an international mines expert, who asked not to be identified to protect the confidentiality of his mission.
http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE72U07420110331?sp=true
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