Olympics and Paralympics 2012 (and now the legacy-part one)

It will be good.

Lioned wrote:It will be good.

There will have to be display from England Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland.....I can picture it now, Irish Dancing, Welsh Choir, Scottish
Bagpipes and uum, what will England choose???? Sorry , Lioned,

Panda wrote:

Lioned wrote:It will be good.

There will have to be display from England Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland.....I can picture it now, Irish Dancing, Welsh Choir, Scottish
Bagpipes and uum, what will England choose???? Sorry , Lioned,

Well 'We' will be a bunch of pie and mash eating Cockneys a few kids dressed up as Oliver,probably be a plastic Tower of London on wheels being towed by a tractor with a few rockets blasting out of it,maybe a few people playing crown pin bowls,cricket and doing a bit of fishing and a couple of kids fliying a kite !! and dont forget the WI making jelly and drinking Tea dressed as the Calander Girls.There's bound to be a full size model of the White Cliffs of Dover with a Hurricane and Spitfire in full flight.The Chinky's will be well impressed with all that.

Lioned wrote:

Panda wrote:

Lioned wrote:It will be good.

There will have to be display from England Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland.....I can picture it now, Irish Dancing, Welsh Choir, Scottish
Bagpipes and uum, what will England choose???? Sorry , Lioned,

Well 'We' will be a bunch of pie and mash eating Cockneys a few kids dressed up as Oliver,probably be a plastic Tower of London on wheels being towed by a tractor with a few rockets blasting out of it,maybe a few people playing crown pin bowls,cricket and doing a bit of fishing and a couple of kids fliying a kite !! and dont forget the WI making jelly and drinking Tea dressed as the Calander Girls.There's bound to be a full size model of the White Cliffs of Dover with a Hurricane and Spitfire in full flight.The Chinky's will be well impressed with all that.

Lioned England will have to do something artistic so I reckon it will be Maypole dancing.Then I forsee Models of Castles of the 4 Countries,
maybe Robin Hood and his Merrie Men robbing Banks and giving the money to the poor, a Replica of the Tower of London complete with
the Rack , gotta have something about William Shakespeare, Darwin , Stephenson the list is endless.

Military To Meet Olympics Security Shortfall

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Military personnel are likely to be used to check bags or man airport-style security scanners





2:13am UK, Friday November 04, 2011



Orla Chennaoui, Lia Hervey and Niall Paterson






Large numbers of military personnel will be used to police
the London 2012 Olympics and Paralympics, deepening concerns about the
final security costs for the Games.


Whitehall sources have confirmed to Sky News that advanced
negotiations are under way to determine exactly how many troops will be
needed to help secure the Games, but the number could top 6,000.


As yet no decision has been made as to whether the personnel will be
drawn from the ranks of the territorial army, reserves, or acting
military.


The shortfall in security staff came to light earlier this year when
it emerged that manpower of up to 20,000 would be needed to protect the
Olympic venues.









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The police are also finding it difficult to fill Olympic jobs as
recent cuts in the police service have left officers fearing for job
security.


Previously, the London Organising Committee for the Olympic Games
(LOCOG) had contracted security firm G4S to provide just 10,000 security
staff, leaving organisers well short of the numbers necessary.


It is understood that financing for troop assistance will come from
the overall £9.3 billion Olympic budget, rather than the overstretched
resources of the Ministry of Defence.


It comes just days after the Metropolitan Police chief in charge of
Olympic security, Chris Allison, admitted it is impossible to predict
how much security for the Games will cost.


The security budget currently stands at £600 million, with the Government hoping for it to come in under £450 million.


However, with a contingency fund of £238 million, plus an extra £282
million allocated to LOCOG for venue-specific security, the overall
spend could total more than £1.1billion.


That figure does not account for the overall counter-terrorism
budget, which is central to the security of the Games, nor any
additional funding for military deployment.


Elite
SAS troops will reportedly form part of efforts to prevent a major
security alert, such as a Mumbai-style attack, and will be stationed in
boats along the Thames to allow them to respond to a situation within
minutes.


The military are expected to be used for bag searches and manning airport style security gates at venues.









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Cheltenham racecourse has been chosen to stage the Olympic Torch Relay Evening Celebration on May 23 next year.


People from across Gloucestershire will be invited to take part in
this spectacular community event, a wonderful chance to celebrate the
arrival of the Olympic flame and to share in the excitement leading up
to London 2012.

Edward Gillespie, Managing Director of Cheltenham Racecourse, said:
"We are delighted the racecourse has been chosen as the venue of the
Evening Celebration for the Olympic Torch Relay in Gloucestershire. This
is a once in a generation opportunity for everyone to come together and
celebrate in appropriate style. We shall be working closely with the
Olympic Torch Taskforce and the local community to produce an evening
that not only showcases the Olympic Torch, but also gives a taste of the
true spirit of this great county."

The evening will revolve around a free stage show featuring a mix of
music, dance and digital media presented by the London 2012 Organising
Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games (LOCOG) together with
presenting partners Coca-Cola, Lloyds TSB/Bank of Scotland and Samsung.
There will also be entertainment showcasing talent from the local
community. The highlight of the evening will be the arrival of the
Olympic flame and the symbolic lighting of the Olympic cauldron.

Sebastian Coe, Chair of LOCOG, said: "We have no doubt that
Cheltenham will help to stage an Evening Celebration event that captures
the excitement, passion and spirit of the Olympic Torch Relay as it
comes to rest at the Racecourse. The event will provide the perfect
opportunity to invite the local community to welcome the Olympic flame
and shine a light on the culture and heritage of the area."

The Olympic flame will arrive in the UK from Greece on May 18, 2012
and the 70-day torch relay will start at Land's End in Cornwall on the
morning of May 19. The flame will travel an estimated 8,000 miles across
the UK, giving thousands of communities and individuals their moment to
shine as the Olympics comes to their doorstep. The flame will arrive in
Gloucestershire on May 23 and at the Olympic Stadium on July 27 for the
lighting of the cauldron at the opening ceremony, signifying the start
of the London 2012 Olympic Games.

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Lia Hervey, Olympics producer


The Government has spent nearly £750,000 on tickets for the London 2012
Olympics, Sky News can exclusively reveal.


The Department for
Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) has applied for and been allocated 8,846
tickets to the Games, a freedom of information request has shown.

Their allocation, which was previously withheld from the public, includes 213
tickets to the Opening Ceremony at a total price of £194,525.

Of this allocation the Government will have access to 40 of the most
expensive tickets priced at £2,012.12.

They have also got 142 tickets to the closing ceremony, costing £71,490.






The department spent £33,085 on 256 athletics tickets and £26,600 on 410
beach volleyball tickets.

The DCMS allocation also includes sought after tickets for track cycling,
with a total of 224 tickets to the Olympic Park velodrome sessions.

The tickets include the sprint and keirin finals in which Chris Hoy and
Victoria Pendleton are hoping to take part. They spent £29,530 on diving
tickets, including Tom Daley's 10-metre synchro and 10-metre platform event.

The large allocation will anger members of the public who have
been left disappointed after failing to get tickets to the Games.

Some 1.9 million people applied for tickets and many missed out.

A total of 1.2 million people ended up with nothing, with only 700,000 - 36%
- being successful.

However, the Government says the tickets, primarily paid for by the taxpayer,
will benefit the British economy.

Jeremy Hunt, Secretary of State for Culture, Olympics,
Media and Sport, told Sky News the tickets will be used to further British
business interests.

"The first point to make is that this is less than 0.1% of all tickets and
none of them are going to be given away to civil servants or politicians.

We are determined to use this unique opportunity to maximise the economic
benefits for the country.

DCMS spokesman


"A small number of those tickets will be made available to people who have
been working hard on the project for the last five years or so but they have to
buy those tickets at face value and because they're popular they will have to go
into a ballot to get them."

The DCMS put bids in for tickets for all the Government. It is believed its
allocation will be shared out across departments.

Many dignitaries, heads of state and business leaders across the world will
fill some of the best seats at the opening and closing ceremonies, which will be
used as a showcase for Britain.

A DCMS spokesman said: "Hosting the Olympic and Paralympic Games next summer
is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to showcase the UK to a massive
international audience.


The large allocation will anger people who have missed out
on tickets



"We are determined to use this unique opportunity to maximise the economic
benefits for the country."

The spokesman added: "As we have said before, there will be no free tickets
for civil servants, and no tickets at all for the opening and closing
ceremonies."

London 2012 must raise £2bn from the private sector to stage the Games.

People still hoping to go to buy tickets will get two more chances on a
first-come, first-served basis.

All unsold Paralympic tickets, along with what remains of the Olympic
football tickets, will go on sale in December. This will include some medal
sessions and ceremonies.

Another online ticket release is set for April 2012. This will probably
coincide with the big rush of people still trying to get a seat at the
Games.

Up to another 1.3 million tickets may come up for sale. The exact number of
tickets in this batch will also be influenced by the finalised seating and
staging plans for the ceremonies which affect the amount of space which will be
used.

:: Olympic Flame's 8,000-Mile UK Route Revealed

The war of words in the increasingly bitter dispute over the future
of the Olympic Stadium intensified this morning, with Baroness Margaret
Ford condemning ‘frivolous, vexatious and vindictive’ behaviour, and
claiming her board members were spied on by Spurs.
The Chair of
the OPLC (Olympic Park Legacy Company) was in feisty form as she spoke
publicly for the first time since negotiations to sell the stadium to
West Ham United and Newham Council collapsed.
Dismissing several
questions from members of the London Assembly committee who were
quizzing her as ‘daft’, Ford saved the worst of her ire for those who
had scuppered the stadium plans.
The anonymous complainant to the
European Commission , who ultimately brought down the deal, was
described as ‘vexatious and vindictive.’
But it was Tottenham Hotspur who clearly angered Baroness Ford the most.
She
claimed all 14 board members of the OPLC had been put under
surveillance by the club, and underlined the seriousness of the
allegations by reminding us of the ongoing Met police investigation on
the matter.
The repeated accusation comes just over a week before
West Ham director Karren Brady has her day in court, in a legal action
over alleged phone hacking.
Brady has issued court proceedings
against an investigator, and firm of accountants hired by Spurs, who she
claims helped themselves to her mobile phone records, breaking the law
along the way.
By anyone’s standards the stadium saga has become a murky, dirty affair.
And by all accounts, the gloves are off.

sky news

1:03am UK, Tuesday November 15, 2011





Surface-to-air missiles could be used to protect athletes
and visitors during the London Olympics next year, according to the
Defence Secretary Philip Hammond.


The admission came in reply to a question from his predecessor Liam Fox.


"All necessary measures to ensure the security and safety of the London Olympic Games will be taken," Mr Hammond told MPs.


"(This will include), if the advice of the military is that it is required, appropriate ground-to-air defences."


Mr Hammond was speaking after it emerged the US may be preparing to
use its own agents to protect athletes and diplomats at the Games,.
although the Government insists security plans are "on track".


America could send up to 1,000 agents - including 500 from the FBI - to London next summer, according to The Guardian.


The newspaper reported US officials have raised "repeated concerns"
about security and are worried the UK has had to restrict the scope of
anti-terrorism "stop and search" powers.


They are also reported to be anxious about the police response to the London riots.

Britain is a significant terrorist target... from the American perspective, you can't be too careful.

Sky News security editor Sam Kiley











Earlier this year, national Olympic security co-ordinator Chris
Allison, of the Metropolitan Police, said he believed 12,000 officers
will be needed nationally to police the event.


Another 10,000 to 15,000 security officials could also be deployed by firm G4S.


There are also plans to use large numbers of military personnel to police the games – including SAS troops stationed in boats along the Thames in case of a Mumbai-style terror attack.


FBI spokesman Bill Carter did not say how many agents would be
dispatched to London 2012 but said "a significant number of agents" were
sent to the games in Athens and Beijing.


"It is not unusual for a contingent of agents to be dispatched to the
Olympic Games to provide co-ordination and liaison regarding security
matters," he said.


Mr Carter added that any US involvement was done with "close co-operation" with the host country.


One former senior FBI agent told Sky News it was "plausible" that FBI
agents would be sent to London for the games, although numbers of up to
1,000 agents "seem high".










Concerns have been raised about security arrangements at the London Olympics





He said any agents sent to London would probably not be armed.


A Home Office spokesman said: "Security planning is on track and
funding has been protected. The Government is committed to delivering a
safe and secure Games that London, the UK and the world can enjoy.


"The International Olympic Committee undertake detailed inspections
of security preparations and have full confidence in our plans. The UK
has a strong and close working relationship with the US, who have
expressed similar confidence.


"The Government, London 2012 Organising Committee
and G4S are working together to finalise the requirement for venue
security and, as is common at major events in the UK, we will make the
best and most appropriate use of all available resources."


Sky News' security editor Sam Kiley said: "Britain is a significant
terrorist target... from the American perspective, you can't be too
careful."


A Home Office source said it did "not recognise as true" suggestions that there are concerns from the US.


The US state department declined to comment, and the FBI was not available for comment.

I've already payed for my ticket....in the rise off monthly community charge ......I don't want one and wouldn't go to watch it and I may not even watch it on t.v.


If I'm bored and there's nothing else on then I might.


I can think off lots off other things to spend the millions on....we only got the games because KNOWONE else wanted it.


The fact that ministers said there'd would be jobs for British people living around the area and then getting In Foreign people to do the jobs makes me very mad indeed....most off the lorry drivers, labourers, bricklayers etc are foreign.......very unfair.

kitti wrote:I've already payed for my ticket....in the rise off monthly community charge ......I don't want one and wouldn't go to watch it and I may not even watch it on t.v.


If I'm bored and there's nothing else on then I might.


I can think off lots off other things to spend the millions on....we only got the games because KNOWONE else wanted it.


The fact that ministers said there'd would be jobs for British people living around the area and then getting In Foreign people to do the jobs makes me very mad indeed....most off the lorry drivers, labourers, bricklayers etc are foreign.......very unfair.

Morning Kitti

Another sign of this eneffectual Government that they do not stipulate that only British Labour be used. Only one Country has ever made money from the Olympic Games and that"s the U,S,A. Britain will be paying for the Olympic Games for years to come because of the
recession and five years down the line the Economy may not have improved so much so probably another b ig loss maker. .

kitti wrote:I've already payed for my ticket....in the rise off monthly community charge ......I don't want one and wouldn't go to watch it and I may not even watch it on t.v.


If I'm bored and there's nothing else on then I might.


I can think off lots off other things to spend the millions on....we only got the games because KNOWONE else wanted it.


The fact that ministers said there'd would be jobs for British people living around the area and then getting In Foreign people to do the jobs makes me very mad indeed....most off the lorry drivers, labourers, bricklayers etc are foreign.......very unfair.

But the drone-like bankers, accountants, employers and captains of industry continue to make their huge profits ... and really, that's all that matters. The real people, ie us... well, ..........who gives a shite?

Well the Olympics has cost a load of money and i dont know exactly how much but it aint a drop in the Ocean compared to the 'War on Terror' has cost us !
They did promise jobs for British people but who are British now ? I dont know what the percentages were on site but heard and read that lots are foreign.

What i have been saying all along is that there is precious little to get exited about nowadays or get the 'feel good factor' going so lets not knock it too much.

Every day we read of inflation or terror or riots or famine or murders or no more pensions or soldiers with no legs.

So what do you want ? Just carry on reading about all that crap or watch people competing at the highest level of human endurance and ability and enjoying themselves and kids getting exited about it ?

Lioned , if Britain could have afforded another Olympic event, I wouldn"t care, but a lobby group , not the population ,only got this latest
because Qatar is too much of a desert and the cost too high to consider holding the event., nobody else bid for it. Times are hard and going to get worse so I think Britain should have been content with the Olympics. What"s the betting Foreign labour will be used again.?

Panda,if your talking about the World athletics thing then its all in place is it not ? more or less anyway.

Lioned wrote:Panda,if your talking about the World athletics thing then its all in place is it not ? more or less anyway.

Wasn"t there some problem about the Stadium Lioned? It"s 5 years between events so what will it be used for in the meantime?

Not sure what they will use the stadium for in the meantime or longterm for that matter.West Ham and Tottenham bids have been scuppered for the moment.Could use it as a Mosque would be very useful in that location.

Lioned wrote:Not sure what they will use the stadium for in the meantime or longterm for that matter.West Ham and Tottenham bids have been scuppered for the moment.Could use it as a Mosque would be very useful in that location.

Bit big for a Mosque Lioned, friends of mine who live in a short road of semi-detached bay fronted window houses tell me the end house has been converted to a Mosque, all the shoes outside to prove it.

An analyst from Price Waterhouse says in view of the World Wide Economic situation, making a profit from the Games may not happen, over £10 billion
has already been spent. However, he says it will benefit long term because it puts Britain on the map .

Panda wrote:An analyst from Price Waterhouse says in view of the World Wide Economic situation, making a profit from the Games may not happen, over £10 billion
has already been spent. However, he says it will benefit long term because it puts Britain on the map .

The analyst from Price WaterCloset is talking faeces and making excuses already for the expected calamitous 'negative profit' to be made from our hosting of the games.... The taxpaying plebs will pick up the bill for the so called deficit while our elite business fraternity and celebs will take a well earned break.... nothing changes!

malena stool wrote:

Panda wrote:An analyst from Price Waterhouse says in view of the World Wide Economic situation, making a profit from the Games may not happen, over £10 billion
has already been spent. However, he says it will benefit long term because it puts Britain on the map .

The analyst from Price WaterCloset is talking faeces and making excuses already for the expected calamitous 'negative profit' to be made from our hosting of the games.... The taxpaying plebs will pick up the bill for the so called deficit while our elite business fraternity and celebs will take a well earned break.... nothing changes!

Hi malena, Moody"s says Britain is officially in recession as is most of the World so where is the money coming from to support the cost, more people
around the World will stay at home and watch the Games on the Telly. The U.S.A> is the only Country to have made a profit, Greece was paying off
it"s debt for years.

Do you know what REALLY makes my blood boil is the filthy rich using off shore banks to avoid tax and indulging themselves buying top of the range cars
costing £5 million plus, Yachts, Planes etc there was a programme about it this morning on T.V.

Panda wrote:

malena stool wrote:

Panda wrote:An analyst from Price Waterhouse says in view of the World Wide Economic situation, making a profit from the Games may not happen, over £10 billion
has already been spent. However, he says it will benefit long term because it puts Britain on the map .

The analyst from Price WaterCloset is talking faeces and making excuses already for the expected calamitous 'negative profit' to be made from our hosting of the games.... The taxpaying plebs will pick up the bill for the so called deficit while our elite business fraternity and celebs will take a well earned break.... nothing changes!

Hi malena, Moody"s says Britain is officially in recession as is most of the World so where is the money coming from to support the cost, more people
around the World will stay at home and watch the Games on the Telly. The U.S.A> is the only Country to have made a profit, Greece was paying off
it"s debt for years.

Do you know what REALLY makes my blood boil is the filthy rich using off shore banks to avoid tax and indulging themselves buying top of the range cars
costing £5 million plus, Yachts, Planes etc there was a programme about it this morning on T.V.

Hi Panda, I seethe when I read political statements like "We are all in this together" or "We are all suffering" and the next news item is news that BP, British Rail, or British Gas are putting up their charges after announcing disappointing quarterly profits of only £600 million..... Or a CEO of a once Nationalised Utility has retired (often under a cloud) with a golden parachute of £5 million and a £400k per year pension.
An electrician friend of mine back in the 70's was caught by the taxman wiring houses and not declaring his true income. They almost bankrupted him for the few pounds he'd held back from declaring. Compare that with the countless millions lost to offshore banking, false declarations of expenses and insider trading taking place daily and accepted as 'the norm' by the depraved thieves, pimps and charlatans who parade themselves in Westminster and The City as Politicians professional Businessmen and Bankers.

Could be worse..we could off been born in north Korea!!!

kitti wrote:Could be worse..we could off been born in north Korea!!!

Morning kitti, have you been watching the Funeral Service on the News? It"s surreal, everyone crying over the death of such a Dictator. It was reported
that no other Government around the World was invited to the funeral and there is concern about what the new Leader will be like.

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London 2012: Olympic success is key to national pride








By Jane Mower
BBC 2012





The success of Kenya's athletes proved to be a key factor in national pride for those questioned



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A
majority of people in 18 out of 21 countries said the way their team
performs at the Olympics was important to their national pride, a study
shows.

People in developing and middle-income countries get the
greatest lift from Olympic achievements, according to the BBC Global
Poll.

Nine out of 10 (91%) Kenyans asked linked Games success to national pride.

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) said it was "pleased the Olympic dream continues to excite people".

A spokesman added: "Whether as hosts of the Olympic Games or
thanks to the sporting exploits of their athletes, the Games have shown
time and again their capacity to unite nations."

A total of 21,061 people were surveyed earlier this year for the poll.

Some 86% of Filipinos, 84% of Turks and 83% of Indonesians
asked said the way their country performs at the Olympics affects their
national pride "a lot" or "some".

Meanwhile the poll indicated the UK was one of the exceptions
to the overall picture, with almost as many saying Olympic performance
matters only "a little" or "not at all" to their pride in being British
(48%) as those saying it does affect their national pride (50%).

'Triumphs and struggles'
And the number of people linking their national pride with
their country's Olympic performance in France, (51%) and Spain (58%),
was only slightly higher than in the UK.






In response to the findings the IOC added: "The scenes across
Canada during the Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games and those in
Afghanistan when it got its first medal at the Beijing 2008 Olympic
Games thanks to Rohullah Nikpai's performance in Taekwondo, are just two
examples, among many, of how the Olympic Games and Olympic Movement
have inspired countries and their populations."

Jehue Gordon, 20, a hurdler from Trinidad, said for him, national pride was a prime motivator.

He said: "Just thinking about my country's population and
problems compared to the rest of the world, I'm intrinsically motivated
to put the red, white and black out there on the map and instil some
nationalism in Trinidad and Tobago."

And Merlyn Diamond, also 20, a Namibian sprinter, said: "Sport is the one thing that can unite a nation.

"An Olympic medal not only rewards an athlete's hard work but
naturally a nation, helping the nation not only to pride itself on its
talented athletes but to unite in one voice and strive to develop other
young talents.

"An Olympic medal is what dreams of an athlete and nations are made of."

Rio is hosting the 2016 Olympics but the survey, carried out
by GlobeScan between 3 July and 8 September 2011, showed that in Brazil,
as with the UK and Germany, those who said Olympic success affects
their national pride were in the minority.

'Remarkable achievement'
Some 48% of Brazilians asked said their athletes' performance affected their national pride, and 50% said it did not.

Doug Miller, chairman of GlobeScan, said: "The poll confirms
that the Olympics are more than a sporting event, with national pride
very much engaged, especially in developing countries and China.

"But Olympic performance least drives national pride in some
countries that will soon actually host, and pay for, Olympic Games."

However, British Olympic Association spokesman Darryl Seibel
said the results were encouraging and showed the Olympic movement, and
the values upon which it is built, continue to resonate and unite
people.


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He said: "In an era in which
strong differences of opinion and sharp rhetoric often define our public
debate, to get half the population of a country to agree on something
is a remarkable achievement.

"It speaks to the power of the Olympic movement and the
inspiration people often derive from the triumphs and struggles of
Olympic athletes.

"One of our objectives for 2012 is to inspire as many people
as possible throughout the UK through the performances of Team GB
athletes, and these results suggest we are working from a very strong
foundation."

But London 2012 organisers Locog maintained: "Whilst we
recognise the part team success plays in building national pride, we
have always believed that the country will be more inspired by great
British moments and exciting international sporting triumphs rather than
a medals table."






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