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Badboy Fri 28 Oct - 20:18
IS HE THE SAME PERSON AS JAMES CAAN ON CH4 NEWS?Panda wrote:James Haan the Entrepreneur says these Salaries are earned by Directors of the Top Ten Companies who make big decisions, work long hours
and deal with billions of £"s, but the News interviewer didn"t buy that. Look at the Pension of £400,000 a year that COE of RBS got and the
dreadful job he made of running the Bank so much so it had to be bailed out.
AT LEAST THAT WHAT I THINK THEY SAID HIS NAME WAS.
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Panda Fri 28 Oct - 21:22
Badboy wrote:IS HE THE SAME PERSON AS JAMES CAAN ON CH4 NEWS?Panda wrote:James Haan the Entrepreneur says these Salaries are earned by Directors of the Top Ten Companies who make big decisions, work long hours
and deal with billions of £"s, but the News interviewer didn"t buy that. Look at the Pension of £400,000 a year that COE of RBS got and the
dreadful job he made of running the Bank so much so it had to be bailed out.
AT LEAST THAT WHAT I THINK THEY SAID HIS NAME WAS.
He"s the one who is on the BBC2 Programme with 3 others , all entrepreneurs and people with ideas to start a Business in the hope they will
invest in the idea, can"t think of the name of thr Programme, but I"m sure you know which one I mean. James Caan is an American actor
which is why I thought it was James Haan.......but you may be right.
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Panda Fri 28 Oct - 21:33
http://uservideos.sky.com/site-skynews/home/video/tI3kpnJlM94.html
hope this works, it"s a video about a protest in Melbourne which resulted in a big police presence trying to break up the Protest.
hope this works, it"s a video about a protest in Melbourne which resulted in a big police presence trying to break up the Protest.
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Bishop Backs Legal Measures Over St Paul's
3:30pm UK, Sunday October 30, 2011
The Bishop of London has backed legal measures that could
lead to anti-capitalist demonstrators being evicted from their camp
outside St Paul's Cathedral.
Dr Richard Chartres told a crowd of hundreds on the steps of the
cathedral that "nobody wants to see violence" but that legal measures
would be "prudent".
The Bishop then engaged in verbal sparring with several protesters eager to establish his views on a forced eviction.
"One of your own spokesmen said this morning - I think it's very true
- that you're not prepared to stay here forever," Dr Chartres told one
demonstrator.
"My passion and intention is to make sure that the issues which you
are raising are the ones that are at the centre of people's concern and
debate because otherwise we shall get a massive distraction from the
very important things that are being said."
St Paul's and the City of London Corporation announced on Friday that
they would try to gain separate High Court injunctions in order to
evict members of the 200-tent Occupy London camp.
"I have spoken to the police and there is absolutely no use for a violent confrontation," Dr Chartres said.
Protesters have been camped out since October 15
"I do not think we are on the inevitable road to violence. Getting
the legal situation clear is probably a sensible precautionary measure.
"We do not know what is going to happen, the camp could be taken over
by people who are very different from the ones who are in charge at the
moment. I think it is a prudent measure."
Dr Chartres spoke alongside the Dean of St Paul's, Reverend Graeme Knowles.
Rev Knowles said he would enter dialogue with protesters but only on "neutral" ground.
"I find it quite difficult that you assume that I do not hold the
same views as you simply because I don't use the same methods of
expressing my views as you. If dialogue will get us closer, then
dialogue we will have."
Later, the Bishop added: "If we are going to make any changes we have got to move beyond slogans."
Friday saw the cathedral reopen a week after it was closed on "health
and safety" grounds. It was the first time the iconic building has shut
its doors since the Second World War.
Protesters have been camped at the location since October 15 as part
of worldwide action inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in the
United States.
3:30pm UK, Sunday October 30, 2011
The Bishop of London has backed legal measures that could
lead to anti-capitalist demonstrators being evicted from their camp
outside St Paul's Cathedral.
Dr Richard Chartres told a crowd of hundreds on the steps of the
cathedral that "nobody wants to see violence" but that legal measures
would be "prudent".
The Bishop then engaged in verbal sparring with several protesters eager to establish his views on a forced eviction.
"One of your own spokesmen said this morning - I think it's very true
- that you're not prepared to stay here forever," Dr Chartres told one
demonstrator.
"My passion and intention is to make sure that the issues which you
are raising are the ones that are at the centre of people's concern and
debate because otherwise we shall get a massive distraction from the
very important things that are being said."
St Paul's and the City of London Corporation announced on Friday that
they would try to gain separate High Court injunctions in order to
evict members of the 200-tent Occupy London camp.
"I have spoken to the police and there is absolutely no use for a violent confrontation," Dr Chartres said.
Protesters have been camped out since October 15
"I do not think we are on the inevitable road to violence. Getting
the legal situation clear is probably a sensible precautionary measure.
"We do not know what is going to happen, the camp could be taken over
by people who are very different from the ones who are in charge at the
moment. I think it is a prudent measure."
Dr Chartres spoke alongside the Dean of St Paul's, Reverend Graeme Knowles.
Rev Knowles said he would enter dialogue with protesters but only on "neutral" ground.
"I find it quite difficult that you assume that I do not hold the
same views as you simply because I don't use the same methods of
expressing my views as you. If dialogue will get us closer, then
dialogue we will have."
Later, the Bishop added: "If we are going to make any changes we have got to move beyond slogans."
Friday saw the cathedral reopen a week after it was closed on "health
and safety" grounds. It was the first time the iconic building has shut
its doors since the Second World War.
Protesters have been camped at the location since October 15 as part
of worldwide action inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in the
United States.
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Panda Sun 30 Oct - 17:26
Actually, I think the Protesters should move on, much as I admire them. Two Priests have resigned and St. Pauls, a Religious place is hardly the place to protest. We certainly don"t want a huge Police presence to move them but Occupy Wall st. U.K. has no leadership to make decisions.
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Panda Mon 31 Oct - 16:47
This is the third resignation , if the protesters have a conscience they should move on , it"s obvious the Police are going to move them .
Dean Of St Paul's Resigns Over Protest
Dean of St Paul's Graeme Knowles addressing protesters on
Sunday
4:08pm UK, Monday October 31, 2011
The Dean of St Paul's has resigned, saying criticism of the cathedral's
handling of a protest camp on its doorstep had made his position
untenable.
The Right Reverend Graeme Knowles announced his intention to quit his post
after informing the Chapter and Bishop of London on Sunday night.
He has removed himself from operations with immediate effect and is
submitting his resignation to the Queen.
The dean is the second figure to quit in the wake of the Occupy London
protest taking over the area outside the cathedral.
Clergy are divided over how to handle the protesters
camped outside
In a statement, he said: "The past fortnight has been a testing time for the
Chapter and for me personally.
"It has become increasingly clear to me that, as criticism of the cathedral
has mounted in the press, media and in public opinion, my position as dean of St
Paul's was becoming untenable.
"In order to give the opportunity for a fresh approach to the complex and
vital questions facing St Paul's, I have thought it best to stand down as dean,
to allow new leadership to be exercised.
"I do this with great sadness, but I now believe that I am no longer the
right person to lead the Chapter of this great cathedral."
He added: "In recent days, since the arrival of the protesters' camp outside
the cathedral, we have all been put under a great deal of strain and have faced
what would appear to be some insurmountable issues.
"I hope and pray that under new leadership these issues might continue to be
addressed and that there might be a swift and peaceful resolution."
The Occupy London protest outside the church started two
weeks ago
The chancellor of St Paul's, Canon Giles Fraser, resigned last week amid a
row over how to handle the anti-capitalist protest.
Hundreds of demonstrators set up in front of the world-famous landmark almost
two weeks ago - inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York.
Clergy have been divided over how to deal with the scores of tents, which
forced the church to close its doors for the first time since the Second World
War.
St Paul's and the City of London Corporation have both now taken legal action
to try and force their eviction, seeking separate High Court injunctions.
The dean and Bishop of London met with members of the camp on Sunday but
there was acrimony over the decision to resort to the courts.
The bishop, Dr Richard Chartres, described the dean's resignation as "very
sad" but said he had "acted honourably in a very difficult situation".
He added: "There are many diverse voices in the camp outside St Paul's but
among them, serious issues are being articulated which the cathedral has always
sought to address.
"While St Paul's is not on any particular political side - that is not its
role - it does have an important part to play in providing a place for reasoned
debate within a moral and spiritual context."
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, said Mr Knowles would be "much
missed" and called for the clergy at the cathedral to be shown
understanding.
Of the protest, he added: "The urgent larger issues raised by the protesters
at St Paul's remain very much on the table and we need - as a Church and as
society as a whole - to work to make sure that they are properly addressed."
Protesters also sad they were saddened by the resignation.
Joel Benjamin, 29, from Vauxhall, said: "It's not their responsibility - it's
about the financial system, it's not about the Church of England."
In a statement, the Occupy London movement insisted its demonstration was not
aimed at the staff of the cathedral and that they were not seeking for people to
quit.
"We reiterate the need for open and transparent dialogue involving all
parties, including the cathedral, the Corporation of London and others, through
our relevant liaison groups," it said.
"This is a historic opportunity to make a real difference and a real change
for all in our society, in the UK and beyond."
ST PAUL'S PROTEST PICTURE GALLERY
Dean Of St Paul's Resigns Over Protest
Dean of St Paul's Graeme Knowles addressing protesters on
Sunday
4:08pm UK, Monday October 31, 2011
The Dean of St Paul's has resigned, saying criticism of the cathedral's
handling of a protest camp on its doorstep had made his position
untenable.
The Right Reverend Graeme Knowles announced his intention to quit his post
after informing the Chapter and Bishop of London on Sunday night.
He has removed himself from operations with immediate effect and is
submitting his resignation to the Queen.
The dean is the second figure to quit in the wake of the Occupy London
protest taking over the area outside the cathedral.
Clergy are divided over how to handle the protesters
camped outside
In a statement, he said: "The past fortnight has been a testing time for the
Chapter and for me personally.
"It has become increasingly clear to me that, as criticism of the cathedral
has mounted in the press, media and in public opinion, my position as dean of St
Paul's was becoming untenable.
"In order to give the opportunity for a fresh approach to the complex and
vital questions facing St Paul's, I have thought it best to stand down as dean,
to allow new leadership to be exercised.
"I do this with great sadness, but I now believe that I am no longer the
right person to lead the Chapter of this great cathedral."
He added: "In recent days, since the arrival of the protesters' camp outside
the cathedral, we have all been put under a great deal of strain and have faced
what would appear to be some insurmountable issues.
"I hope and pray that under new leadership these issues might continue to be
addressed and that there might be a swift and peaceful resolution."
The Occupy London protest outside the church started two
weeks ago
The chancellor of St Paul's, Canon Giles Fraser, resigned last week amid a
row over how to handle the anti-capitalist protest.
Hundreds of demonstrators set up in front of the world-famous landmark almost
two weeks ago - inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York.
Clergy have been divided over how to deal with the scores of tents, which
forced the church to close its doors for the first time since the Second World
War.
St Paul's and the City of London Corporation have both now taken legal action
to try and force their eviction, seeking separate High Court injunctions.
The dean and Bishop of London met with members of the camp on Sunday but
there was acrimony over the decision to resort to the courts.
Rt Rev Graeme Knowles
Since the arrival of the protesters' camp outside the cathedral, we have all
been put under a great deal of strain and have faced what would appear to be
some insurmountable issues.
The bishop, Dr Richard Chartres, described the dean's resignation as "very
sad" but said he had "acted honourably in a very difficult situation".
He added: "There are many diverse voices in the camp outside St Paul's but
among them, serious issues are being articulated which the cathedral has always
sought to address.
"While St Paul's is not on any particular political side - that is not its
role - it does have an important part to play in providing a place for reasoned
debate within a moral and spiritual context."
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, said Mr Knowles would be "much
missed" and called for the clergy at the cathedral to be shown
understanding.
Of the protest, he added: "The urgent larger issues raised by the protesters
at St Paul's remain very much on the table and we need - as a Church and as
society as a whole - to work to make sure that they are properly addressed."
Protesters also sad they were saddened by the resignation.
Joel Benjamin, 29, from Vauxhall, said: "It's not their responsibility - it's
about the financial system, it's not about the Church of England."
In a statement, the Occupy London movement insisted its demonstration was not
aimed at the staff of the cathedral and that they were not seeking for people to
quit.
"We reiterate the need for open and transparent dialogue involving all
parties, including the cathedral, the Corporation of London and others, through
our relevant liaison groups," it said.
"This is a historic opportunity to make a real difference and a real change
for all in our society, in the UK and beyond."
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Panda Tue 1 Nov - 0:01
Hi Angelique, I just posted an article about the Referendum on the EC thread and see you have posted this in the wrong thread. 
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Panda
Oh silly me !!!! I was just so gobsmacked that poor little Greece get to have a vote but we don't!
Do you think I should remove it or will the moderators deal with it?
They are very strict about this sort of aberration
Oh silly me !!!! I was just so gobsmacked that poor little Greece get to have a vote but we don't!
Do you think I should remove it or will the moderators deal with it?
They are very strict about this sort of aberration
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Panda Tue 1 Nov - 0:15
I wouldn"t worry about it , but if the post still has the Edit/delete facility, just copy and paste it on the EC thread and delete it here. We can debate the Referendum there.
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Panda
Thank you for help - have done as you suggest.
Thank you for help - have done as you suggest.
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Thank you for help - have done as you suggest.
Yes, so I see, I have just commented on the Article, thanks.
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Panda Tue 1 Nov - 7:10
It had to happen!!
Arrests In Parliament Square Squatters' Demo
6:55am UK, Tuesday November 01, 2011
At least 12 people have been arrested after scuffles
reportedly broke out during a protest about squatters' rights outside
the Houses of Parliament.
About 150 demonstrators gathered at around midnight but were ordered to disperse by police.
However, about 40 demonstrators refused to comply, claiming they were holding a Halloween gathering.
"Unauthorised" demonstrations are illegal within 1km of Parliament.
Last month, Justice Secretary Ken Clarke announced plans to criminalise squatting.
An amendment to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders
Bill to be debated on Tuesday would mean that anyone found illegally
occupying a residential property would face a year in jail and/or a
£5,000 fine.
The protest in Westminster came as anti-capitalism activists continued to occupy the square outside St Paul's Cathedral.
About 200 tents have been set up outside St Paul's Cathedral
The City of London Corporation is to hand over a letter to the Occupy
London protesters warning them they have 48 hours to remove their 200
tents or face High Court action to secure their eviction.
The protesters say they are preparing to respond to any legal action.
Ian Chamberlain, 27, from Occupy London Stock Exchange, said: "They
have to serve that notice and give us 48 hours so there is room for us
to respond with legal action or whatever.
"We will stay here right until the end and explore legal options to respond to any eviction notice we do receive."
Around 50 of the protesters marched further into the City dressed as
zombie bankers to mark Halloween, stopping traffic in front of the Bank
of England.
Meanwhile,
council officials in Glasgow will go to court in a bid to evict
anti-capitalist protesters from George Square in the city centre.
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Arrests In Parliament Square Squatters' Demo
6:55am UK, Tuesday November 01, 2011
At least 12 people have been arrested after scuffles
reportedly broke out during a protest about squatters' rights outside
the Houses of Parliament.
About 150 demonstrators gathered at around midnight but were ordered to disperse by police.
However, about 40 demonstrators refused to comply, claiming they were holding a Halloween gathering.
"Unauthorised" demonstrations are illegal within 1km of Parliament.
Last month, Justice Secretary Ken Clarke announced plans to criminalise squatting.
An amendment to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders
Bill to be debated on Tuesday would mean that anyone found illegally
occupying a residential property would face a year in jail and/or a
£5,000 fine.
The protest in Westminster came as anti-capitalism activists continued to occupy the square outside St Paul's Cathedral.
About 200 tents have been set up outside St Paul's Cathedral
The City of London Corporation is to hand over a letter to the Occupy
London protesters warning them they have 48 hours to remove their 200
tents or face High Court action to secure their eviction.
The protesters say they are preparing to respond to any legal action.
Ian Chamberlain, 27, from Occupy London Stock Exchange, said: "They
have to serve that notice and give us 48 hours so there is room for us
to respond with legal action or whatever.
"We will stay here right until the end and explore legal options to respond to any eviction notice we do receive."
Around 50 of the protesters marched further into the City dressed as
zombie bankers to mark Halloween, stopping traffic in front of the Bank
of England.
Meanwhile,
council officials in Glasgow will go to court in a bid to evict
anti-capitalist protesters from George Square in the city centre.
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Eviction Notice For St Paul's Protesters
12:18pm UK, Tuesday November 01, 2011
Protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral are to be told they have 48 hours to leave the site or risk High Court action.
The City of London Corporation is to hand over a letter to the Occupy
London protesters warning them they have to remove their 200 tents or
face eviction.
Home Secretary Theresa May told Sky News she hopes the authorities
will work together to remove the camp, which she called a "squat".
"It is important people are able to make peaceful protest but it becomes a bit different when it becomes a squat," she said.
"I think we do need to look at the powers available. I would hope
that the St Paul's authorities, the Corporation of the City of London
and the police will work together to ensure the protesters can be moved
as soon as possible."
But the protesters have said they will not leave willingly until they
have achieved "real change" and are preparing a response to the legal
action.
The Occupy London protest started two weeks ago
One demonstrator, Ronan McNern, told Sky News: "We have a just cause,
a serious cause, in terms of addressing the inequalities the financial
system has put upon us.
"We are going to say rather than taking us down this route, let's have a talk. We want to make our point.
"A community has been built around these tents and if the Home
Secretary makes having a tent impossible as part of a demonstration what
they are actually doing is preventing the right of protest.
"We have absolutely no intention and never had of interrupting
Remembrance services or Christmas or anything else. There are many
Christians here as part of the camp and that would be the last thing
they would want."
He added: "All we ask is that we have open dialogue that allows us to
make our point without intimidation... Until we start seeing real
change, I would very much doubt the camp will look to move."
Scores of tents were set up in front of the world-famous landmark
almost two weeks ago - inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in
New York.
Clergy had been divided over how to deal with the protest, which
forced the iconic cathedral to close for the first time since the Second
World War.
But it was announced on Friday that St Paul's and the City of London
Corporation would be seeking separate High Court injunctions to clear
the site.
The Chancellor Canon Dr Giles Fraser quit his post last week after a row over how to handle the protest.
And the dean, Rt Rev Graeme Knowles, resigned on Monday, saying criticism of the cathedral's approach had made his position "untenable".
Members of the Chapter at St Paul's met on Monday after the dean resigned and will meet with the Bishop of London today.
The cathedral has not yet sought an injunction and is not part of the
notice being served today. It has stressed it is committed to a
peaceful resolution.
Council
officials in Glasgow are also taking court action in a bid to evict
anti-capitalist protesters from George Square in the city centre.
PARLILAMENT SQUARE SQUATTER PROTEST ENDS IN ARRESTS
Elsewhere, around 12 people were arrested after scuffles broke out
during a protest about squatters' rights outside the Houses of
Parliament.
About 150 demonstrators gathered at around midnight but were ordered
to disperse by police. Some 40 resisted, claiming they were holding a
Halloween gathering.
"Unauthorised" demonstrations are illegal within 1km of Parliament.
Justice Secretary Ken Clarke has just announced plans to criminalise squatting.
An amendment to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders
Bill, to be debated on Tuesday, would mean that anyone found illegally
occupying a residential property would face a year in jail and/or a
£5,000 fine.
12:18pm UK, Tuesday November 01, 2011
Protesters outside St Paul's Cathedral are to be told they have 48 hours to leave the site or risk High Court action.
The City of London Corporation is to hand over a letter to the Occupy
London protesters warning them they have to remove their 200 tents or
face eviction.
Home Secretary Theresa May told Sky News she hopes the authorities
will work together to remove the camp, which she called a "squat".
"It is important people are able to make peaceful protest but it becomes a bit different when it becomes a squat," she said.
"I think we do need to look at the powers available. I would hope
that the St Paul's authorities, the Corporation of the City of London
and the police will work together to ensure the protesters can be moved
as soon as possible."
But the protesters have said they will not leave willingly until they
have achieved "real change" and are preparing a response to the legal
action.
The Occupy London protest started two weeks ago
One demonstrator, Ronan McNern, told Sky News: "We have a just cause,
a serious cause, in terms of addressing the inequalities the financial
system has put upon us.
"We are going to say rather than taking us down this route, let's have a talk. We want to make our point.
"A community has been built around these tents and if the Home
Secretary makes having a tent impossible as part of a demonstration what
they are actually doing is preventing the right of protest.
"We have absolutely no intention and never had of interrupting
Remembrance services or Christmas or anything else. There are many
Christians here as part of the camp and that would be the last thing
they would want."
He added: "All we ask is that we have open dialogue that allows us to
make our point without intimidation... Until we start seeing real
change, I would very much doubt the camp will look to move."
Scores of tents were set up in front of the world-famous landmark
almost two weeks ago - inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in
New York.
Clergy had been divided over how to deal with the protest, which
forced the iconic cathedral to close for the first time since the Second
World War.
But it was announced on Friday that St Paul's and the City of London
Corporation would be seeking separate High Court injunctions to clear
the site.
The Chancellor Canon Dr Giles Fraser quit his post last week after a row over how to handle the protest.
And the dean, Rt Rev Graeme Knowles, resigned on Monday, saying criticism of the cathedral's approach had made his position "untenable".
Members of the Chapter at St Paul's met on Monday after the dean resigned and will meet with the Bishop of London today.
The cathedral has not yet sought an injunction and is not part of the
notice being served today. It has stressed it is committed to a
peaceful resolution.
Council
officials in Glasgow are also taking court action in a bid to evict
anti-capitalist protesters from George Square in the city centre.
PARLILAMENT SQUARE SQUATTER PROTEST ENDS IN ARRESTS
Elsewhere, around 12 people were arrested after scuffles broke out
during a protest about squatters' rights outside the Houses of
Parliament.
About 150 demonstrators gathered at around midnight but were ordered
to disperse by police. Some 40 resisted, claiming they were holding a
Halloween gathering.
"Unauthorised" demonstrations are illegal within 1km of Parliament.
Justice Secretary Ken Clarke has just announced plans to criminalise squatting.
An amendment to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders
Bill, to be debated on Tuesday, would mean that anyone found illegally
occupying a residential property would face a year in jail and/or a
£5,000 fine.
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Church leaders announced they were putting any legal proceedings on hold after a string of meetings following the dean's resignation on Monday.
They were due to serve a letter on the protesters today, demanding they remove their 200 tents within 48 hours or face eviction.
St Paul's change of heart comes after its Chancellor, Canon Dr Giles Fraser, and Dean, Rt Rev Graeme Knowles, resigned amid a row over its handling of the protest.
In a statement following the U-turn, St Paul's said: "The resignation of the dean... has given the opportunity to reassess the situation, involving fresh input from the bishop.
"Members of Chapter this morning have met with representatives from the protest camp to demonstrate that St Paul's intends to engage directly and constructively with both the protesters and the moral and ethical issues they wish to address, without the threat of forcible eviction hanging over both the camp and the church."
Bishop of London Dr Richard Chartres has invited investment banker Ken Costa, former boss of UBS Europe and chairman of Lazard International, to lead an initiative "reconnecting the financial with the ethical".
Dr Chartres said: "The alarm bells are ringing all over the world. St Paul's has now heard that call.
"Today's decision means that the doors are most emphatically open to engage with matters concerning not only those encamped around the cathedral but millions of others in this country and around the globe."
Canon Pastor Michael Colclough said the church believed the protesters were "people they can do business with" and that the separate action by the Corporation of London "is a matter for them".
Occupy London spokesman Ronan McNern described the development as "really positive", adding: "We are very excited about hopefully great new beginnings."
Scores of tents were set up in front of the world-famous landmark almost two weeks ago - inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York.
Clergy have been divided over how to deal with the protest, which forced the iconic cathedral to close for the first time since the Second World War.
Dr Fraser quit last week, saying that he could not support the use of legal action to force out the protesters.
The dean resigned on Monday, saying that criticism of the church's approach had made his position "untenable".
Home Secretary Theresa May has told Sky News she hopes the authorities will work together to remove the camp, which she called a "squat".
"It is important people are able to make peacef l protest but it becomes a bit different when it becomes a squat," she said.
"I think we do need to look at the powers available. I would hope that the St Paul's authorities, the Corporation of the City of London and the police will work together to ensure the protesters can be moved as soon as possible."
But the protesters have said they will not leave willingly until they have achieved "real change" and are preparing a response to the legal action.
Protest spokesman Mr McNern earlier told Sky News: "We have a just cause, a serious cause, in terms of addressing the inequalities the financial system has put upon us.
"We are going to say rather than taking us down this route, let's have a talk. We want to make our point.
"A community has been built around these tents and if the Home Secretary makes having a tent impossible as part of a demonstration what they are actually doing is preventing the right of protest.
"We have absolutely no intention and never had of interrupting Remembrance services or Christmas or anything else. There are many Christians here as part of the camp and that would be the last thing they would want."
He added: "Until we start seeing real change I would very much doubt the camp is going to look to move.
"However, that is not to say that we wouldn't compromise as we have done already in terms of the shape of the camp and the make-up of the camp to facilitate the needs of the church.
Council officials in Glasgow are also taking court action in a bid to evict anti-capitalist protesters from George Square in the city centre.
Elsewhere, around 12 people were arrested after scuffles broke out during a protest about squatters' rights outside the Houses of Parliament.
About 150 demonstrators gathered at around midnight but were ordered to disperse by police. Some 40 resisted, claiming they were holding a Halloween gathering.
"Unauthorised" demonstrations are illegal within 1km of Parliament.
Justice Secretary Ken Clarke has just announced plans to criminalise squatting.
An amendment to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, to be debated on Tuesday, would mean that anyone found illegally occupying a residential property would face a year in jail and/or a £5,000 fine.
4.06pm update: City of LondonCorporation has confirmed it has "pressed pause" on its legal proceedings and promised more information tomorrow lunchtime.
There was a T.V. Announcement that the Protestors had moved, but nothing in the latest sky news yet.
They were due to serve a letter on the protesters today, demanding they remove their 200 tents within 48 hours or face eviction.
St Paul's change of heart comes after its Chancellor, Canon Dr Giles Fraser, and Dean, Rt Rev Graeme Knowles, resigned amid a row over its handling of the protest.
In a statement following the U-turn, St Paul's said: "The resignation of the dean... has given the opportunity to reassess the situation, involving fresh input from the bishop.
"Members of Chapter this morning have met with representatives from the protest camp to demonstrate that St Paul's intends to engage directly and constructively with both the protesters and the moral and ethical issues they wish to address, without the threat of forcible eviction hanging over both the camp and the church."
Bishop of London Dr Richard Chartres has invited investment banker Ken Costa, former boss of UBS Europe and chairman of Lazard International, to lead an initiative "reconnecting the financial with the ethical".
Dr Chartres said: "The alarm bells are ringing all over the world. St Paul's has now heard that call.
"Today's decision means that the doors are most emphatically open to engage with matters concerning not only those encamped around the cathedral but millions of others in this country and around the globe."
Canon Pastor Michael Colclough said the church believed the protesters were "people they can do business with" and that the separate action by the Corporation of London "is a matter for them".
Occupy London spokesman Ronan McNern described the development as "really positive", adding: "We are very excited about hopefully great new beginnings."
Scores of tents were set up in front of the world-famous landmark almost two weeks ago - inspired by the Occupy Wall Street movement in New York.
Clergy have been divided over how to deal with the protest, which forced the iconic cathedral to close for the first time since the Second World War.
Dr Fraser quit last week, saying that he could not support the use of legal action to force out the protesters.
The dean resigned on Monday, saying that criticism of the church's approach had made his position "untenable".
Home Secretary Theresa May has told Sky News she hopes the authorities will work together to remove the camp, which she called a "squat".
"It is important people are able to make peacef l protest but it becomes a bit different when it becomes a squat," she said.
"I think we do need to look at the powers available. I would hope that the St Paul's authorities, the Corporation of the City of London and the police will work together to ensure the protesters can be moved as soon as possible."
But the protesters have said they will not leave willingly until they have achieved "real change" and are preparing a response to the legal action.
Protest spokesman Mr McNern earlier told Sky News: "We have a just cause, a serious cause, in terms of addressing the inequalities the financial system has put upon us.
"We are going to say rather than taking us down this route, let's have a talk. We want to make our point.
"A community has been built around these tents and if the Home Secretary makes having a tent impossible as part of a demonstration what they are actually doing is preventing the right of protest.
"We have absolutely no intention and never had of interrupting Remembrance services or Christmas or anything else. There are many Christians here as part of the camp and that would be the last thing they would want."
He added: "Until we start seeing real change I would very much doubt the camp is going to look to move.
"However, that is not to say that we wouldn't compromise as we have done already in terms of the shape of the camp and the make-up of the camp to facilitate the needs of the church.
Council officials in Glasgow are also taking court action in a bid to evict anti-capitalist protesters from George Square in the city centre.
Elsewhere, around 12 people were arrested after scuffles broke out during a protest about squatters' rights outside the Houses of Parliament.
About 150 demonstrators gathered at around midnight but were ordered to disperse by police. Some 40 resisted, claiming they were holding a Halloween gathering.
"Unauthorised" demonstrations are illegal within 1km of Parliament.
Justice Secretary Ken Clarke has just announced plans to criminalise squatting.
An amendment to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill, to be debated on Tuesday, would mean that anyone found illegally occupying a residential property would face a year in jail and/or a £5,000 fine.
4.06pm update: City of LondonCorporation has confirmed it has "pressed pause" on its legal proceedings and promised more information tomorrow lunchtime.
There was a T.V. Announcement that the Protestors had moved, but nothing in the latest sky news yet.
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I am bit late coming to this article - have been blogging about it elsewhere.
But I really think this was a 'faux pas' of an extra-ordinary size by Church of England.
Things like - Sanctuary - Suffer the Little Children or The Good Samaritan - Protect the Poor - All are welcome under my roof and so on.
The protestors are protesting against Capitalism, even though they were not sure that was what they were doing at the beginning. Or did they but they decided that it would be a good idea not to divulge this because the Police would have sent in the Riot Police.
So the Corporation of London together with St. Paul's decided they would evict them. Ha, ha, so what happened to sanctuary then. Now they have decided not to do this and have realised what they have done.
They almost lost it but at the last minute drew back from the abyss. So much for the Church of England! They were more worried about the money they were losing, the effect it was having on the "material wealth" and the congregation used to not mixing with the poor. As ever all the Church of England thinks about is money - though they wouldn't admit it, their actions were speaking louder than their words.
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I am bit late coming to this article - have been blogging about it elsewhere.
But I really think this was a 'faux pas' of an extra-ordinary size by Church of England.
Things like - Sanctuary - Suffer the Little Children or The Good Samaritan - Protect the Poor - All are welcome under my roof and so on.
The protestors are protesting against Capitalism, even though they were not sure that was what they were doing at the beginning. Or did they but they decided that it would be a good idea not to divulge this because the Police would have sent in the Riot Police.
So the Corporation of London together with St. Paul's decided they would evict them. Ha, ha, so what happened to sanctuary then. Now they have decided not to do this and have realised what they have done.
They almost lost it but at the last minute drew back from the abyss. So much for the Church of England! They were more worried about the money they were losing, the effect it was having on the "material wealth" and the congregation used to not mixing with the poor. As ever all the Church of England thinks about is money - though they wouldn't admit it, their actions were speaking louder than their words.
Edited out personal info.
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Angelique wrote:Panda
I am bit late coming to this article - have been blogging about it elsewhere.
But I really think this was a 'faux pas' of an extra-ordinary size by Church of England.
Things like - Sanctuary - Suffer the Little Children or The Good Samaritan - Protect the Poor - All are welcome under my roof and so on.
The protestors are protesting against Capitalism, even though they were not sure that was what they were doing at the beginning. Or did they but they decided that it would be a good idea not to divulge this because the Police would have sent in the Riot Police.
So the Corporation of London together with St. Paul's decided they would evict them. Ha, ha, so what happened to sanctuary then. Now they have decided not to do this and have realised what they have done.
They almost lost it but at the last minute drew back from the abyss. So much for the Church of England! They were more worried about the money they were losing, the effect it was having on the "material wealth" and the congregation used to not mixing with the poor. As ever all the Church of England thinks about is money - though they wouldn't admit it, their actions were speaking louder than their words.
I could tell you lots about the Church of England and not paying their bills. My Papa used to be the Rector at St. Martins.
Hi Angelique,
You have to look no further than the Catholic Church with it"s own Stock exchange to see Religion has always taken from the poor, even today in poor
Catholic Countries!!!
However, there is no need for the protesters to park their tents outside the Cathedral, apparently many of them do not stay the night there and face the cold, they leave the Tents there and come back early in the morning.They have made an awareness, time to organise a massive petition which the Government cannot ignore. Sqatting is not really going to make a change, they have to take a more positive approach.
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Robert Galbraith / ReutersDemonstrators converge on the Port of Oakland, Calif., Wednesday during a general strike called by the Occupy Oakland movement.
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As a voice over a bullhorn said "The night is not over, yet," protest organizers told demonstrators to head back to the downtown plaza where the Oakland movement has been based for more than a month. The Occupy encampment across the street from City Hall also was the scene of intense clashes with authorities last week.
The nearly 5-hour protest at the Port of Oakland, the nation's fifth-busiest shipping port, was intended to highlight a daylong "general strike" in the city, which prompted solidarity rallies in New York, Los Angeles and other cities across the nation.
Video: Thousands of ‘Occupy’ protesters on the move in Oakland (on this page)
The demonstrations in Oakland were largely peaceful and police say there were no arrests. However, agitators vandalized bank branches and a grocery store earlier in the day.
Police estimated that a crowd of about 3,000 had gathered at the port at the height of the demonstration around dusk. Some had marched from the city's downtown, while others had been bused to the port.
The crowd disrupted operations by overwhelming the area with people and blocking exits with chain-link fencing and illegally parked vehicles. The demonstrators also erected fences to block main streets to the port. No trucks were allowed into or out of the area.
The protest fell short of paralyzing the northern California city that was catapulted to the forefront of national anti-Wall Street protests after a former Marine was badly wounded during a march and rally last week.
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Occupy Oakland organizers said they wanted to halt "the flow of capital" at the port, a major point of entry for Chinese exports to the U.S.
Employees at the port's main office near Jack London Square were sent home at 3:30 p.m. to ensure their safety.
Several buses were brought in to carry some protesters to the port as others marched while chanting "Let's go Oakland!" "Take the port!" and "We got sold out!"
Protesters milled about three major intersections at roads leading in and out of the port. They blocked trucks, and television video showed some climbing atop containerized cargo the trucks were hauling.
Port director Omar Benjamin said the port was effectively shut down but pledged a return of normal port operations "when it's safe and secure to do so."
He asked protesters to allow workers to go home safely, the Tribune reported.
"The world is watching Oakland tonight and we need to make sure this is a safe place for everyone," City Administrator Deanna Santana said.
The Oakland protest escalated as demonstrators, elected officials and business leaders expressed optimism that the day's "general strike" would be a peaceful event. The city last week became a rallying point after police used tear gas to clear an encampment outside City Hall and then clashed with protesters in the street. An Iraq War veteran was injured in the melee.
A morning march of 1,000 people down Broadway to the State Building was loud but peaceful, according to NBC station KNTV. Police presence was minimal, officials said.
Protesters plastered signs and blocked customers from using ATMs at downtown banks, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. Many downtown businesses closed for the day.
At noon hundreds of people surrounded a Chase bank, KNTV said. They chanted, "Banks got bail out. We got sold out." And, "Hey Chase what do you say? How many houses did you take today?"
An hour later, the Oakland Tribune reported, marchers pounded on the windows of a Bank of America branch and used markers to write on the glass. The branch was closed.
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At 2 p.m., they started another march after also shutting down Comerica, Wells Fargo, and Chase branches for a time. Windows were smashed and signs were marred at one Wells Fargo office.
Black-dressed and masked marchers threw paint balls, ripped up a picket fence and broke windows at a Whole Foods market before about two dozen protesters forced them to stop. There was lots of shoving and punches thrown, the Oakland Tribune reported.
The store shut down for the day, a Whole Foods spokeswoman said.
PhotoBlog: Occupy protesters target downtown Oakland bank branchesAlong with protesting financial institutions that many within the Occupy Wall Street movement blame for high unemployment and the foreclosure crisis, supporters of the Oakland events are expanding their message to focus on local school closures, waning union benefits and cuts to social services.
Nurse, teacher and longshoremen unions participated in the protests, and Oakland let city workers use vacation or other paid time off to take part in the general strike.
"We are absolutely not calling for a strike," said International Longshoreman and Warehouse Union spokesperson Craig Merrilees.
However, "about 40" workers did not show up for assignment Wednesday morning at the union hall, Merrilees told KNTV. Unlike traditional jobs, port workers are free to decline work at any time. Each day the port fills roughly 325 jobs with whichever qualified union workers wish to work.
"We've always supported the goals of the 99-percent" Merrilees said, referring to the Occupy movement's slogan.
The port sends goods primarily to Asia, including wine as well as rice, fruits and nuts, and handles imported electronics, apparel and manufacturing equipment, mostly from Asia, as well as cars and parts from Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Hyundai.
Why the youth of 'occupy' are so upsetAbout 360 Oakland teachers didn't show up for work, or roughly 18 percent of the district's 2,000 teachers, said Oakland Unified School District spokesman Troy Flint. The district has been able to get substitute teachers for most classrooms, and where that wasn't possible children were sent to other classrooms, he said.
Embattled Oakland Mayor Jean Quan, who had been criticized for her handling of the protests, said in a Wednesday morning statement that she supported the goals of the protest movement that began in New York City a month ago and spread to dozens of cities across the country.
"Police Chief (Howard) Jordan and I are dedicated to respecting the right of every demonstrator to peacefully assemble, but it is our duty to prioritize public safety," she said.
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Police said a pedestrian, identified by local media as a protester, was struck by a vehicle in downtown Oakland and taken to a local hospital. The extent of the person's injuries was unknown.
Story: OWS' latest issue: What to do with their money On Oct. 25, Oakland police acting at the request of the city's administrator, who reports to the mayor, were asked to clear the protesters' campsite during an early morning raid. A confrontation with marchers protesting the raid followed that night, and an Iraq War veteran suffered a fractured skull and brain injury when officers moved in with tear gas, flash grenades and beanbag projectiles.
Quan allowed protesters to reclaim the plaza outside City Hall the next day. At least six dozen tents and a kitchen buzzing with donated food have been erected on the spot since then, while the crackdown has galvanized anti-Wall Street events elsewhere and made politicians in other cities think again about interfering with their local encampments.
Interactive: Toon-Off: Occupy Wall Street (on this page)In Seattle on Wednesday, protesters shut a Chase bank branch, the Seattle Times reported.
Police blocked about 200 protesters who marched on the bank, but five people who got there ahead of the march were lying on the bank's floor, arms linked, waiting to be arrested. The branch was closed. As police took the group to a paddywagon, other protesters lay down in front of the van, the Times said. Police used pepper spray and got into scuffles with protesters.
About 300 rain-soaked protesters blocked the street outside the Sheraton hotel where Jamie Dimon, chief executive of the biggest U.S. bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, was scheduled to speak at an event organized by the University of Washington's school of business.
One protester said Dimon should hear why demonstrators are frustrated. "You should be thankful that the taxpayers bailed you out, kept you afloat while you figured out what was going on internally, and you thank us with more fees," said the protester, who gave only one name, David.
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Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, in a commentary published Wednesday in the Financial Times, said "it was time we tried to be more specific" in finding answers to the vague demands represented by anti-capitalist protests outside St. Paul's Cathedral in London, a demonstration inspired by New York's Occupy Wall Street movement.
Occupy Wall Street began on Sept. 17 as an anti-corporate greed protest in the privately owned block-long Zuccotti Park, near Wall Street, and has morphed and spread over six weeks into a multinational series of protests.
NBC station KING in Seattle and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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As a voice over a bullhorn said "The night is not over, yet," protest organizers told demonstrators to head back to the downtown plaza where the Oakland movement has been based for more than a month. The Occupy encampment across the street from City Hall also was the scene of intense clashes with authorities last week.
The nearly 5-hour protest at the Port of Oakland, the nation's fifth-busiest shipping port, was intended to highlight a daylong "general strike" in the city, which prompted solidarity rallies in New York, Los Angeles and other cities across the nation.
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The demonstrations in Oakland were largely peaceful and police say there were no arrests. However, agitators vandalized bank branches and a grocery store earlier in the day.
Police estimated that a crowd of about 3,000 had gathered at the port at the height of the demonstration around dusk. Some had marched from the city's downtown, while others had been bused to the port.
The crowd disrupted operations by overwhelming the area with people and blocking exits with chain-link fencing and illegally parked vehicles. The demonstrators also erected fences to block main streets to the port. No trucks were allowed into or out of the area.
The protest fell short of paralyzing the northern California city that was catapulted to the forefront of national anti-Wall Street protests after a former Marine was badly wounded during a march and rally last week.
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Occupy Oakland organizers said they wanted to halt "the flow of capital" at the port, a major point of entry for Chinese exports to the U.S.
Employees at the port's main office near Jack London Square were sent home at 3:30 p.m. to ensure their safety.
Several buses were brought in to carry some protesters to the port as others marched while chanting "Let's go Oakland!" "Take the port!" and "We got sold out!"
Protesters milled about three major intersections at roads leading in and out of the port. They blocked trucks, and television video showed some climbing atop containerized cargo the trucks were hauling.
Port director Omar Benjamin said the port was effectively shut down but pledged a return of normal port operations "when it's safe and secure to do so."
He asked protesters to allow workers to go home safely, the Tribune reported.
"The world is watching Oakland tonight and we need to make sure this is a safe place for everyone," City Administrator Deanna Santana said.
The Oakland protest escalated as demonstrators, elected officials and business leaders expressed optimism that the day's "general strike" would be a peaceful event. The city last week became a rallying point after police used tear gas to clear an encampment outside City Hall and then clashed with protesters in the street. An Iraq War veteran was injured in the melee.
A morning march of 1,000 people down Broadway to the State Building was loud but peaceful, according to NBC station KNTV. Police presence was minimal, officials said.
Protesters plastered signs and blocked customers from using ATMs at downtown banks, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. Many downtown businesses closed for the day.
At noon hundreds of people surrounded a Chase bank, KNTV said. They chanted, "Banks got bail out. We got sold out." And, "Hey Chase what do you say? How many houses did you take today?"
An hour later, the Oakland Tribune reported, marchers pounded on the windows of a Bank of America branch and used markers to write on the glass. The branch was closed.
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At 2 p.m., they started another march after also shutting down Comerica, Wells Fargo, and Chase branches for a time. Windows were smashed and signs were marred at one Wells Fargo office.
Black-dressed and masked marchers threw paint balls, ripped up a picket fence and broke windows at a Whole Foods market before about two dozen protesters forced them to stop. There was lots of shoving and punches thrown, the Oakland Tribune reported.
The store shut down for the day, a Whole Foods spokeswoman said.
PhotoBlog: Occupy protesters target downtown Oakland bank branchesAlong with protesting financial institutions that many within the Occupy Wall Street movement blame for high unemployment and the foreclosure crisis, supporters of the Oakland events are expanding their message to focus on local school closures, waning union benefits and cuts to social services.
Nurse, teacher and longshoremen unions participated in the protests, and Oakland let city workers use vacation or other paid time off to take part in the general strike.
"We are absolutely not calling for a strike," said International Longshoreman and Warehouse Union spokesperson Craig Merrilees.
However, "about 40" workers did not show up for assignment Wednesday morning at the union hall, Merrilees told KNTV. Unlike traditional jobs, port workers are free to decline work at any time. Each day the port fills roughly 325 jobs with whichever qualified union workers wish to work.
"We've always supported the goals of the 99-percent" Merrilees said, referring to the Occupy movement's slogan.
The port sends goods primarily to Asia, including wine as well as rice, fruits and nuts, and handles imported electronics, apparel and manufacturing equipment, mostly from Asia, as well as cars and parts from Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Hyundai.
Why the youth of 'occupy' are so upsetAbout 360 Oakland teachers didn't show up for work, or roughly 18 percent of the district's 2,000 teachers, said Oakland Unified School District spokesman Troy Flint. The district has been able to get substitute teachers for most classrooms, and where that wasn't possible children were sent to other classrooms, he said.
Embattled Oakland Mayor Jean Quan, who had been criticized for her handling of the protests, said in a Wednesday morning statement that she supported the goals of the protest movement that began in New York City a month ago and spread to dozens of cities across the country.
"Police Chief (Howard) Jordan and I are dedicated to respecting the right of every demonstrator to peacefully assemble, but it is our duty to prioritize public safety," she said.
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Police said a pedestrian, identified by local media as a protester, was struck by a vehicle in downtown Oakland and taken to a local hospital. The extent of the person's injuries was unknown.
Story: OWS' latest issue: What to do with their money On Oct. 25, Oakland police acting at the request of the city's administrator, who reports to the mayor, were asked to clear the protesters' campsite during an early morning raid. A confrontation with marchers protesting the raid followed that night, and an Iraq War veteran suffered a fractured skull and brain injury when officers moved in with tear gas, flash grenades and beanbag projectiles.
Quan allowed protesters to reclaim the plaza outside City Hall the next day. At least six dozen tents and a kitchen buzzing with donated food have been erected on the spot since then, while the crackdown has galvanized anti-Wall Street events elsewhere and made politicians in other cities think again about interfering with their local encampments.
Interactive: Toon-Off: Occupy Wall Street (on this page)In Seattle on Wednesday, protesters shut a Chase bank branch, the Seattle Times reported.
Police blocked about 200 protesters who marched on the bank, but five people who got there ahead of the march were lying on the bank's floor, arms linked, waiting to be arrested. The branch was closed. As police took the group to a paddywagon, other protesters lay down in front of the van, the Times said. Police used pepper spray and got into scuffles with protesters.
About 300 rain-soaked protesters blocked the street outside the Sheraton hotel where Jamie Dimon, chief executive of the biggest U.S. bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, was scheduled to speak at an event organized by the University of Washington's school of business.
One protester said Dimon should hear why demonstrators are frustrated. "You should be thankful that the taxpayers bailed you out, kept you afloat while you figured out what was going on internally, and you thank us with more fees," said the protester, who gave only one name, David.
Elsewhere:
- In Philadelphia, police arrested about a dozen protesters who were sitting peacefully inside the lobby of the headquarters of cable giant Comcast. Officers moved in after they refused to leave. The protesters were handcuffed and led into police vans as supporters cheered.
- In Boston, college students and union workers were expected to march on local Bank of America offices, the Harvard Club and the statehouse to protest the nation's burgeoning student debt crisis.
- Occupy LA, a monthlong 475-tent encampment around Los Angeles City Hall, is planning a march and rally through downtown LA's financial district to express solidarity with the Oakland general strike and to protest police brutality.
- In New York, about 100 military veterans marched in uniform through Manhattan to protest what they called police brutality against the Iraq War veteran injured in Oakland. Marine Sgt. Shamar Thomas, who went toe to toe recently with officers policing activists in Times Square, said soldiers who risked their lives have the right to protest an economy that gives them a slimmer chance of finding jobs than most Americans.
- In Tulsa, Police Chief Chuck Jordan defended the overnight arrest of 10 protesters who refused to leave a city park about two hours after curfew early Wednesday morning. About 50 officers were involved in clearing out the park. Occupy Oklahoma City moderator Beth Isbell said in a news release that police used pepper spray while arresting protesters sitting on the ground in the park about 2:30 a.m.
- Occupy Portland protesters planned a rally and march for Wednesday afternoon to show support for "Occupy Oakland," NBC station KGW reported. Portland’s rally was expected to begin around 4:30 p.m. at Terry Schrunk Plaza. The crowd planned to march through downtown Portland about an hour later.
- In San Diego, more than 60 people marched to a Bank of America branch and urged people to transfer accounts from major banks to credit unions. As Lorena Gonzalez of the San Diego and Imperial County Labor Council closed her savings account, protesters outside chanted: "Banks got bailed out, we got sold out."
- Maryland officials said they would cut power to outlets in the downtown Baltimore park where Wall Street protesters have been living for the last month. Mayoral spokesman Ian Brennan said Wednesday the city is taking this step to alleviate a public safety hazard at McKeldin Square near the Inner Harbor. He said a city official visited earlier this week and found fire and electricity hazards.
- In Milwaukee, a Journal-Sentinel newspaper photographer was arrested after allegedly ignoring officers' repeated demands to clear the streets during an "Occupy" rally. Newspaper officials said the photographer was wearing press credentials and "clearly" was not part of the protest.
Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, in a commentary published Wednesday in the Financial Times, said "it was time we tried to be more specific" in finding answers to the vague demands represented by anti-capitalist protests outside St. Paul's Cathedral in London, a demonstration inspired by New York's Occupy Wall Street movement.
Occupy Wall Street began on Sept. 17 as an anti-corporate greed protest in the privately owned block-long Zuccotti Park, near Wall Street, and has morphed and spread over six weeks into a multinational series of protests.
NBC station KING in Seattle and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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>>>now to the people in this country who have been taking to the streets in what has become known as the occupy movement against economic inequality, corporate greed and the concentration of wealth in the top 1% of society. today, the epicenter was back in oakland, california, where people flooded the streets again in what they called a day-long strike to shut the city down. miguel almaguer has our report tonight.
>>we are the 99%!
>> reporter: in oakland, it may have been the largest demonstration since the days of the vietnam war. [ chanting ]
>> reporter: a massive city-wide strike aimed at shutting down corporations, banks and the nation's fifth largest port.
>>we are going to go shut it down for sure.
>> reporter: protesters are demonstrating against what they call the unequal distribution of wealth and power.
>>we stand for banks that work for the people.
>>they are closing a lot of schools in oakland.
>> reporter: the shutdown grew by the hour. nearly 400 teachers marched to protest the closure of schools. nurses demanded better health care for all.
>>health care is a human right.
>> reporter: local labor unions encouraged their members to walk off the job.
>>you see people on the streets? this is just beginning.
>> reporter: today, police kept their distance.
>>medic!
>> reporter: the occupy movement is galvanized in part by images of marine scott olsen, seriously injured by what witnesses say was a police projectile. today in new york a group of veterans marched through wall street.
>>need to step up and make good.
>> reporter: holding up pictures of olson. in philadelphia, police moved in to arrest nearly a dozen protesters who settled into the c comcast building, the parent company of nbc universal. back in oakland, the police union says they, too, stand with protesters but they will also enforce the law. brian, the crowd has been growing all day. while for the most part it has been peaceful there have been incidents of vandalism. later tonight, protesters say they will head to the port of oakland where they will try to shut down what they call the largest point of commerce. brian?
>>miguel almaguer on the noisy streets of oakland, california. thanks.
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It appears "Occupy Wall Street" is having effect, Bob Diamond, Head of Barclays International in his Statement says Banks should be more aware of
it"s responsibility to Shareholders and apologised for the way Banks have created this economic crisis.
it"s responsibility to Shareholders and apologised for the way Banks have created this economic crisis.
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While the Occupy Wall street protesters were demonstrating in Oakland, a gang of black masked protesters turned up and were trying to damage a
shop. The OWS formed a human chain to stop them and the cowardly masked figures drifted away. Now why can"t Brits behave like the OWS when
riots start and buildings destroyed instead of looking on.?
shop. The OWS formed a human chain to stop them and the cowardly masked figures drifted away. Now why can"t Brits behave like the OWS when
riots start and buildings destroyed instead of looking on.?
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Very good point you raised regarding the OWS human shield. In this country it would probably be considered "hostage" and the protestors would have been arrested. We have an awful lot of laws about restraining people and who can do it!
Very good point you raised regarding the OWS human shield. In this country it would probably be considered "hostage" and the protestors would have been arrested. We have an awful lot of laws about restraining people and who can do it!
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Very good point you raised regarding the OWS human shield. In this country it would probably be considered "hostage" and the protestors would have been arrested. We have an awful lot of laws about restraining people and who can do it!
When the breakaway group of demonstrators with black balaclavas on started smashing up shops, throwing paint at the Police, overturning Wheeliebins etc I felt ashamed to be British.
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The latest desecration by some imbecile/s........human excrement has been found inside St Pauls Cathedral 
It is now inevitable that the Protesters will move one, but you have to ask , why are they camped outside the Cathedral???? the Jarrow Marchers
marched 300 miles, stopping en route to talk to people about their protest. The OWS is moving around from State to State, yet the British protesters just stay put.pitch their tents and that"s it.
It is now inevitable that the Protesters will move one, but you have to ask , why are they camped outside the Cathedral???? the Jarrow Marchers
marched 300 miles, stopping en route to talk to people about their protest. The OWS is moving around from State to State, yet the British protesters just stay put.pitch their tents and that"s it.
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By Harriet Prest, Sky News reporter
With
the 'Occupy' camp's arrival at St Paul's Cathedral, I've spent a fair
bit of time there over the past three weeks with a Sky News crew - and
my opinions of the protest movement have shifted.
At first, the
movement's cause was slightly dismissed, with many assuming the campers
were professional protesters, with nothing better to do.
And many of them did give us a pretty hard time, their natural mistrust of the media made them antagonistic towards us.
It made it very hard to engage with them on the issues they so desperately wanted us to talk about.
Criticism
and anti-Murdoch jibes were fired from all sides of the camp, as we
gritted our teeth and reported on the protesters' comings and goings,
any possible eviction and confrontation with city workers and clergy.
We
were constantly harangued for supposed bias and every broadcast I made
was watched by a protester to 'check' it's content - often standing
off-puttingly close to me.
It's made for some hairy moments - in
one case I found myself live on-air, talking to an unmanned camera as my
crew bravely fought off a man who had tried to grab me mid-broadcast.
But
so much of that confrontation from the protesters themselves has calmed
down, as they have settled into the camp, built a real community and
gained in confidence.
Now I'm welcomed back by name - they know me and generally don't give me too much trouble anymore.
In turn, I've learnt to chat, and be more friendly - and now really listen to what they have to say.
And
I truly believe they are on some zeitgeist of public opinion - one that
questions some of the inequality in our recession-hit society.
I've
also come to realise that the real problem now is a group of
'undesirables' at the camp - they hang out at the far end, next to the
tent offering food and drink.
On one occasion two of them attached
themselves to us for the day, making me pretty uncomfortable and
following us around like limpets. We had to call in security.
But these people really are just the 1% - the hangers on, the rough end you find in any community anywhere in the world.
Protesters have suggested to me that certain people have been 'planted' in the camp - just to cause trouble.
Even
the Church reportedly tried not to publicise the fact excrement had
been found inside St Paul's - as they believed it could have been
planted there by someone trying to 'discredit' the protest camp.
The question though, of course, remains - who would benefit enough to actually go through with planting it?
With
the 'Occupy' camp's arrival at St Paul's Cathedral, I've spent a fair
bit of time there over the past three weeks with a Sky News crew - and
my opinions of the protest movement have shifted.
At first, the
movement's cause was slightly dismissed, with many assuming the campers
were professional protesters, with nothing better to do.
And many of them did give us a pretty hard time, their natural mistrust of the media made them antagonistic towards us.
It made it very hard to engage with them on the issues they so desperately wanted us to talk about.
Criticism
and anti-Murdoch jibes were fired from all sides of the camp, as we
gritted our teeth and reported on the protesters' comings and goings,
any possible eviction and confrontation with city workers and clergy.
We
were constantly harangued for supposed bias and every broadcast I made
was watched by a protester to 'check' it's content - often standing
off-puttingly close to me.
It's made for some hairy moments - in
one case I found myself live on-air, talking to an unmanned camera as my
crew bravely fought off a man who had tried to grab me mid-broadcast.
But
so much of that confrontation from the protesters themselves has calmed
down, as they have settled into the camp, built a real community and
gained in confidence.
Now I'm welcomed back by name - they know me and generally don't give me too much trouble anymore.
In turn, I've learnt to chat, and be more friendly - and now really listen to what they have to say.
And
I truly believe they are on some zeitgeist of public opinion - one that
questions some of the inequality in our recession-hit society.
I've
also come to realise that the real problem now is a group of
'undesirables' at the camp - they hang out at the far end, next to the
tent offering food and drink.
On one occasion two of them attached
themselves to us for the day, making me pretty uncomfortable and
following us around like limpets. We had to call in security.
But these people really are just the 1% - the hangers on, the rough end you find in any community anywhere in the world.
Protesters have suggested to me that certain people have been 'planted' in the camp - just to cause trouble.
Even
the Church reportedly tried not to publicise the fact excrement had
been found inside St Paul's - as they believed it could have been
planted there by someone trying to 'discredit' the protest camp.
The question though, of course, remains - who would benefit enough to actually go through with planting it?
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Occupy Wall street has been travelling around to several Cities in their campaign to raise awareness. When they tried to pitch tents in some
places the police soon arrived to dismantle them, but no violence.
I take my hat off to the U.S. not only are they weeding out the rich who try to avoid paying tax by having Bank Accounts in off shoretax havens, but when it was known that Italy, France and another Country are building equipment to enable Syria to track rebelsby their mobiles an immediate enquiry has been ordered.
places the police soon arrived to dismantle them, but no violence.
I take my hat off to the U.S. not only are they weeding out the rich who try to avoid paying tax by having Bank Accounts in off shoretax havens, but when it was known that Italy, France and another Country are building equipment to enable Syria to track rebelsby their mobiles an immediate enquiry has been ordered.
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