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Post  malena stool Sun 20 Nov - 10:27

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FRIDAY, MAY 4: No sleep, Gerry and I started looking through the streets around 06.00 as it was starting to get light. Nobody around. Why not?

Why not? Because while you were so busy, Kate, people were searching through the night, and by the time you decided that it was light enough to go out and look for a child, who, if she had wandered off and got lost, would have been in a state of abject terror by 6am. Those who had braved the dark had gone off to get some rest when you and your husband managed to get out of the apartment.

Good morning AnnaEsse, Kate McCann is a liar, the police searched 24hrs a day for Madeleine when they went home someone else took over. All leave and rest days were cancelled for the forseeable future, in order to search for Madeleine. In any case why would the police search during the night, when it was dark and go home when it was daylight?

I don't know when Kate started to write her diary, but when she was asked if she wanted to join the locals who had stayed off work for more than a week to search for Madeleine, Kate said she wanted to but they were very busy doing other things, It might not be physically searching for Madeleine, but they were doing things in their own way to find Madeleine. Kate never said "but we did search, we searched at 6am the following morning."

Kate didn't just insult the Portuguese police, when she told that lie in her diary, she grossly insulted the locals who gave up work for more than a week and the holidaymakers who gave up their holidays to search for Madeleine. Kate must have told the Portuguese police that she and her husband never searched for Madeleine, because this is one of the gripes that Goncalo Amaral had against them and it was one of the reasons he suspected they were more involved with Madeleine's disappearance than neglect.

The McCanns lied through their teeth to the Portuguese police, the minute the police came on the scene, to find out what happened to Madeleine. Once again they put themselves first, just as they did on that so called family holiday. When they dumped their children in the crech during the day, left them to fend for themselves during the evening , so they could have precious "Me Time" with the friends Kate once said "we were so into."

Bravo kathybelle! If Kate McCann had actually gone out at 6am, she would have found people still searching. She and her hubby didn't go out to scour the alleyways. because, well, it was dark! And then, they tried to say that they went out at 6am and had no idea how feeble that would have sounded even if they had gone out.

ETA: Suggested reading for Kate McCann - Loving Parent: A Guide to Growing Up Before Your Children Do by Blaize Clement Stewart

The McCanns have had it withdrawn from the shelves, Anna.......
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FRIDAY, MAY 4: No sleep, Gerry and I started looking through the streets around 06.00 as it was starting to get light. Nobody around. Why not?

Why not? Because while you were so busy, Kate, people were searching through the night, and by the time you decided that it was light enough to go out and look for a child, who, if she had wandered off and got lost, would have been in a state of abject terror by 6am. Those who had braved the dark had gone off to get some rest when you and your husband managed to get out of the apartment.

Good morning AnnaEsse, Kate McCann is a liar, the police searched 24hrs a day for Madeleine when they went home someone else took over. All leave and rest days were cancelled for the forseeable future, in order to search for Madeleine. In any case why would the police search during the night, when it was dark and go home when it was daylight?

I don't know when Kate started to write her diary, but when she was asked if she wanted to join the locals who had stayed off work for more than a week to search for Madeleine, Kate said she wanted to but they were very busy doing other things, It might not be physically searching for Madeleine, but they were doing things in their own way to find Madeleine. Kate never said "but we did search, we searched at 6am the following morning."

Kate didn't just insult the Portuguese police, when she told that lie in her diary, she grossly insulted the locals who gave up work for more than a week and the holidaymakers who gave up their holidays to search for Madeleine. Kate must have told the Portuguese police that she and her husband never searched for Madeleine, because this is one of the gripes that Goncalo Amaral had against them and it was one of the reasons he suspected they were more involved with Madeleine's disappearance than neglect.

The McCanns lied through their teeth to the Portuguese police, the minute the police came on the scene, to find out what happened to Madeleine. Once again they put themselves first, just as they did on that so called family holiday. When they dumped their children in the crech during the day, left them to fend for themselves during the evening , so they could have precious "Me Time" with the friends Kate once said "we were so into."

Bravo kathybelle! If Kate McCann had actually gone out at 6am, she would have found people still searching. She and her hubby didn't go out to scour the alleyways. because, well, it was dark! And then, they tried to say that they went out at 6am and had no idea how feeble that would have sounded even if they had gone out.

ETA: Suggested reading for Kate McCann - Loving Parent: A Guide to Growing Up Before Your Children Do by Blaize Clement Stewart

The McCanns have had it withdrawn from the shelves, Anna.......

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Kate McCann: My Story


::: What really happened the night Madeleine vanished
::: Why her last words to me mean so much
::: How my twins are coping without their big sister

Sunday, 5 August 2007

On Saturday, it will be 100 days since Madeleine McCann was snatched from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz. Interviewed for the first time without her husband, Madeleine's mother tells Lori Campbell about the criticism they have faced, the support they have received and how she and her family have coped since that dreadful night

The one thing I have always been definite about is that I wanted to be a mother. Then when we were trying for a baby and it wasn't happening, it was really hard. The longer it went on, the harder it was. I saw my friends having children and I was really delighted for them, but it made me feel sad too.

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We tried unsuccessfully for several years to conceive. There came a point when we admitted we needed help. I was so desperate to have a child I'd try anything. I know IVF isn't everyone's choice, but I wanted to try it. By that stage I was happy to start the treatment because it was taking the pressure off us a bit. We had one unsuccessful attempt before Madeleine, and that was very hard. But when I got pregnant with Madeleine it was just fantastic. It didn't seem true. I did a test at home so I could handle the result if it wasn't good. I was looking at it thinking 'I don't believe that'. Then I went to the hospital and they checked it. I was really excited.

Madeleine's birth

Once we were past 12 weeks we were telling everyone. I swam every day until the day she was born to keep us both healthy. It was a really uncomplicated pregnancy. I had no sickness, nothing. It was so easy. I didn't know I was having a girl until she was born. [She smiles] There she was, perfect. She was lovely. She had the most beautiful face. I'd thought I was going to have a boy, just based on instinct. That actually made it even more special that she was a girl.

The first five or six months were really difficult. She had very bad colic and cried about 18 hours a day. She had to be picked up all the time. So I spent many a day dancing round the living room holding Madeleine. I remember trying to butter my toast with one hand and holding her in the other. We would watch the clock and Gerry would come home and there would be three of us. Sometimes she just looked so sad with colic, and the three of us would be cuddled together trying to get her through it. Like a lot of things, you go through that difficult, bad stage and it tightens that bond. We've both got an incredible bond with Madeleine.

The twins are born

When the twins were born she was amazing, I keep saying that, but she was. She was only 20 months old. She just handled it so well. She was still a baby herself ... [Kate's voice breaks and she has to pause to stop herself crying] I'll try not to get emotional at this point. I just remember when they were born. I'm going to get a bit upset now, sorry. When the time came to bring Madeleine in, it was in the evening. She came in and ... just her little face. When she saw the twins for the first time it was lovely. It was so nice, this expression. She sat on the end of my bed.

We had the odd moment of course, such as when I was breast-feeding the twins. There was a tired Madeleine walking about the room wanting attention. But she was remarkable the way she coped with it all. She would look at me and say 'hold it, hold it,' meaning she wanted to hold one of the babies."

Holiday in Portugal

She was so excited about coming to Portugal. She was holding on to another girl's hand walking up the stairs to the plane. She was no trouble on the flight, always chatting, and colouring in or reading.

The kids had a fantastic time. We all did, but it was lovely seeing them having fun. We did use the kids' club and very often did activities there. Madeleine in particular had a ball. They did swimming, went on a little boat, went to the beach, did lots of colouring in and face painting. Madeleine is at the age where she could really enjoy it.

They played tennis, which she loved, she was so happy. They had a little dance prepared for Friday. It was a little presentation they were working on in the days before. I don't know what it was, I never got to see it ...

On the evening she went missing, before she went to bed, she said, 'Mummy I've had the best day ever. I'm having lots and lots of fun.' [Pause]

That night

The night she went missing there was about 20 seconds of disbelief where I thought 'that can't be right'. I was checking for her. Then there was panic and fear. That was the first thing that hit. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group. Everyone was the same. It was just total fear. I never thought for one second that she'd walked out. I knew someone had been in the apartment because of the way it had been left.

But I knew she wouldn't do that anyway. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind she'd been taken. That's why the fear set in. Then you go through the guilt phase. Straight away, because we didn't know what had happened. We were just so desperately sorry. Every hour now, I still question, 'why did I think that was safe?'

I can't describe how much I love Madeleine. If I'd had to think for one second, 'should we have dinner and leave them?' I wouldn't have done it. It didn't happen like that. I didn't have to think for a second, that's how safe I felt.

Maybe it was because it was family-friendly, because it felt so safe. That week we had left them alone while we had dinner. There is no way on this planet I would take a risk, no matter how small, with my children. I do say to myself 'why did I think it was safe?' But it did feel safe and so right. I love her and I'm a totally responsible parent and that's the only thing that keeps me going. I have no doubt about that.

You don't expect a predator to break in and take your daughter out the bed. It could have happened under other circumstances and there would still be the regret. It wasn't like a decision we made. It was a matter of 'let's get the kids to sleep, then we'll have dinner.' It wasn't a 'shall I, shan't I?' thing. I feel desperately sorry to her that we weren't there.

This has touched so many people. I've had so many letters from mothers, really kind words. People have said 'Kate, we've done this a hundred times over ourselves. Why would you for one minute think something like that would happen?' It's not like we went down town or anything.

How did it happen?

People have said to me you're the unluckiest person in the world, and we are. That night runs over and over in my mind, and I'm sure people will learn from our mistake, if you want to call it that. But it is important not to lose sight of the fact we haven't committed a crime. Somebody has. Somebody's been there, somebody's been watching. They took our daughter away and we can't lose sight of that.

There are still moments where I think 'how did that happen?' You can't imagine in your wildest dreams that anyone would do something like that. It's awful for us but I have absolutely no idea what Madeleine's feeling. [She pauses to hold back tears] How can someone do that to a child?

When we moved apartments we unpacked some of Madeleine's things. We don't have a room for her set out or anything. I've kept her clothes together. She has lots of presents to open that people have sent. Mostly people who don't know her, and pictures other children have drawn.

The twins know she's not there and they do miss her. But on a day-to-day basis they are happy. They're lovely, like a little double act, they're so funny. They put their little rucksacks on, hold hands and walk off around the room. They're fantastic.

The twins' reaction

Their vocabulary has come on so much since we've been here. The older they get the more it stretches, and there are areas we're going to have to broach. But we'll let them take the lead. They talk about Madeleine's things and if they get a biscuit they say 'one for Sean, one for Amelie, one for Madeleine'.

There are photographs of Madeleine all around and they comment on them. They've got a lot of love and protection. We've taken professional advice just to check we're doing the right thing by them. We have contact with a child psychologist when we need it.

When we went back to the UK for a family baptism there was an empty seat on the plane and Sean said 'that's Madeleine's seat'. That caught me. Because I wasn't going home, it didn't feel too bad leaving. It was important for me to go. The hardest thing wasn't being in the UK, it was to be with such a close family and for Madeleine not to be there. I knew how much she'd have loved to be there ... Despite her small size she just has this huge presence. She brings a lot of joy.

Amelie asked me afterwards, 'Where's Madeleine? I miss my big sister.' I don't know where that question came from, it could have been because it was a family day. She's obviously made that connection, she knows Madeleine's her big sister. Amelie will sometimes point at the Cuddle Cat [Madeleine's cuddly toy] and say 'Madeleine. Her Cuddle Cat. Looking after it.' She's probably heard me saying that.

Sean said something the other day about Madeleine. It catches me. Then they do whatever they're doing, like 'look at this Noddy', and they're on to something else. It's not dwelled on.

Gerry's reaction

Gerry's way of coping is to keep busy and focused. He needs to feel like he's doing something. He's a very optimistic, positive person. I'm not always. With a lot of the campaign stuff, he has done the talking. Sometimes I want to speak, but I just can't. It's not natural for me. Gerry's used to having to speak at conferences and it's harder for me. But I'm equally involved. Every decision is mutual.

When Gerry went to Washington, he rang me three or four times a day to ask me what I thought. Although I wasn't there in person I knew hour by hour what was happening. We knew it was a positive visit. It wasn't about Madeleine in particular. We've learnt a lot and become aware of the bigger issue.

Other missing children

There are so many missing children out there, abducted children and sexually exploited children. Once you know all that you can't turn a blind eye to it. Madeleine is our priority, but we have to help. We can't just ignore those other children.

I don't know why the publicity's been so massive. We're normal people. We don't have amazing contacts or anything, we just have strong friends. Everyone brainstormed and became very creative. They did what they could and if that meant asking well-known faces, celebrities, it was done. They are normal people too. They wanted to help.

I still have moments of panic and fear. It's not as intense and unrelenting as the first five days. Now, obviously, we have hope and it's important to hold on to that. I do go back to those dark moments. It would be abnormal never to touch on them. I do feel panic and fear when I'm thinking about her, but it doesn't help. I'm not helping Madeleine by going there. It's important to channel those emotions into something positive.

Returning home

But I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to go back into our family home. I can't bear the thought of it. We'd lived in that house for a year and it was a really happy family home. We have so many happy memories in that house. Madeleine's room is shocking pink. She chose the colour.

Obviously things change as the weeks and months go by. We haven't got the pressure of Sean and Amelie starting school or anything. At the moment we're staying and we feel happier staying. We are closer to the investigation. Some of that might be mad, I don't know. We don't know where Madeleine is, we don't think she's in the UK but there's nothing to say she's any further from there than she is from here. It's a gut feeling. I'm aware there's probably things that would be easier at home, but at the moment this is the right thing for us.

And it's hard to think about work. I'm not looking too far ahead, but I can't drop the campaign, I know that. I can't turn a blind eye to it. We'll do whatever we can, working with other organisations, to try to make a difference. It's so hard not to get involved, it's so intimate to us now that we can't ignore it. It's not like I go round in a bubble, but I honestly did not realise the scale of this problem, children suffering like this.

The public's reaction

The criticism from the public is hurtful. I hate publicity, interviews, anything like that. I just hate it. When things have happened in the past to children I've wondered 'how do you get through that, how can you even live another day?' Then here we were doing press conferences. You just don't know until you're in that situation. Like this morning: how did I get in the shower, have my breakfast?

I just go through the motions. Any parent would do anything they could for their child. We're just doing what we feel is the best thing for Madeleine. Some people say the publicity will be harmful, that she'll be hidden away because of it. But what can you do, just sit and do nothing? It's difficult. It's awkward. But it's not about me, it's not about Gerry, it's about Madeleine.

As a couple, I think we're stronger than ever. We've got an equal partnership. We don't row, we've never rowed. We have different strengths and have reached different stages at different points but we help each other. We haven't talked about staying here for ever, we're just not looking that far ahead. We've had so much support, mothers can empathise with me. Speaking now, on my own, is a way of saying thank you. They've given a bit of themselves to me.

[Next Saturday will mark 100 days since Madeleine's disappearance] I'm still hoping we're not going to get there. Every day I'm hoping we won't get to the next day without her. But we have to keep going for Madeleine.

If I could say one thing to comfort her it's that we love her. She knows we love her very much. She knows we're looking for her, that we're doing absolutely everything and we'll never give up.

Further browsing: bringmadeleinehome.com/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/kate-mccann-my-story-460343.html


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Post  malena stool Sun 20 Nov - 12:59

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"If I could say one thing to comfort her it's that we love her. She knows we love her very much. She knows we're looking for her, that we're doing absolutely everything and we'll never give up."
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Never give up what exactly?
1. Certainly not searching or looking because to; 'never give up' suggests you have already started, which is patently not true... it is not physically possible to search or look for a; 'missing person' from behind a computer screen.
2. Never give up caring perhaps? If you really cared why did you not help the police by answering their questions?

However, there are two things off the top of the head that leap to the fore that I believe you could give up.
1. Suing, persecuting, harassing and destroying the livelihood of the very man who led the search for your missing daughter despite the absence of your cooperation.
2. Insulting the good Portuguese people who willingly gave up their time and searched relentlessly for your missing child.
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Post  Panda Sun 20 Nov - 13:07

malena stool wrote:Quote
"If I could say one thing to comfort her it's that we love her. She knows we love her very much. She knows we're looking for her, that we're doing absolutely everything and we'll never give up."
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Never give up what exactly?
1. Certainly not searching or looking because to; 'never give up' suggests you have already started, which is patently not true... it is not physically possible to search or look for a; 'missing person' from behind a computer screen.
2. Never give up caring perhaps? If you really cared why did you not help the police by answering their questions?

However, there are two things off the top of the head that leap to the fore that I believe you could give up.
1. Suing, persecuting, harassing and destroying the livelihood of the very man who led the search for your missing daughter despite the absence of your cooperation.
2. Insulting the good Portuguese people who willingly gave up their time and searched relentlessly for your missing child.


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Post  halfamo Sun 20 Nov - 13:09

I’ve been away a while but the obnoxious pair are still playing to the gallery and a little girl is still on the missing list nothing much changes in McCann world .Hi East Mids from West Mids.
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Post  malena stool Sun 20 Nov - 13:16

halfamo wrote:I’ve been away a while but the obnoxious pair are still playing to the gallery and a little girl is still on the missing list nothing much changes in McCann world .Hi East Mids from West Mids.
Hi mo...yeah the duplicitous duo are still gold digging...no change there..
Hope your move went well and you're well settled down.
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Post  malena stool Sun 20 Nov - 13:18

Hi malena......where did you get 01 penny from?

Hi Panda... It's a quote from Annabel's previous post.... Leveson Inquiry: Kate McCann felt 'mentally raped' after NOTW published private diary - Page 4 294124
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Post  Panda Sun 20 Nov - 13:23

malena stool wrote:Hi malena......where did you get 01 penny from?

Hi Panda... It's a quote from Annabel's previous post.... Leveson Inquiry: Kate McCann felt 'mentally raped' after NOTW published private diary - Page 4 294124

Sorry, I"m not with it today......how come I always get big spaces when I copy and paste?????.....no don"t bother answering that, Leveson Inquiry: Kate McCann felt 'mentally raped' after NOTW published private diary - Page 4 25346
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Post  Justiceforallkids Sun 20 Nov - 13:27

am i the only one who thinks the term mentally raped is offensive for the poor victims of rape around the world who are really raped??
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Post  halfamo Sun 20 Nov - 13:56

No carly it means something quite different she is saying that her thoughts have been abused without her permission.But considering her lurid thoughts on her daughters fate and her lurid descriptions in her book ,i would be led to think her most avid audience would be your local paedophile , she seems to have missed that possibility.
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Post  Justiceforallkids Sun 20 Nov - 14:08

halfamo wrote:No carly it means something quite different she is saying that her thoughts have been abused without her permission.But considering her lurid thoughts on her daughters fate and her lurid descriptions in her book ,i would be led to think her most avid audience would be your local paedophile , she seems to have missed that possibility.

yes who could forget that quote in her book which we do not speak of on what page 135???????
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Post  Guest Sun 20 Nov - 14:22

Page 129 to be precise - I wish I could forget it! There's also another creepy quote (can't recall the page number readily) about "loving and pleasing" Madeleine which I can't imagine anyone other than Kate saying about a child.
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Post  Guest Sun 20 Nov - 18:43

Saturday, 12 May 2007. Madeleine’s fourth birthday. Until it was upon us, we hadn’t been able to think about it: we simply couldn’t countenance the idea that by the time it arrived she wouldn’t be back with us to mark it. Not being with her today, loving her, pleasing her, enjoying her delight, was unbearable.

Who in their right mind would write that about a three year old, FFS! Creepy!
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Post  mara thon Sun 20 Nov - 18:53

quote............I don't know why the publicity's been so massive. We're normal people. We don't have amazing contacts or anything,...unquote


well somebody sure as hell had the amazing contacts !!
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Post  Panda Sun 20 Nov - 19:10

That"s what got me in her Diary, Kate talks about meeting the Pope, calls from the Blairs, Gordon Brown photoshoots for the British Press and only later does she start thinking of Madeleine.
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Post  Guest Sun 20 Nov - 23:21

Here's a link to the a page from the Find Madeleine website which does actually make an attempt to describe what Madeleine was like but the last paragraph is odd. The McCanns have blamed paedophiles for taking their daughter - it's good to know that she will be bringing joy into their lives!

http://www.findmadeleine.com/about_madeleine/index.html

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7:14pm UK, Sunday November 20, 2011

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The UK's tabloid industry is bracing for an uncomfortable week, with
celebrities and ordinary members of the public join forces to testify about the
trauma they suffered as phone-hacking victims.



Household names, like actors Hugh Grant and Sienna Miller, will head to the High Court alongside
comedian Steve Coogan, author JK Rowling and singer Charlotte Church, as the Leveson
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into press standards prepares to hear from victims.

However, it is the testimony not of celebrities but of ordinary people thrust
into the headlines because of personal tragedy which is bound to have the
biggest impact.

The parents of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler will tell the hearing of
their heartbreak when a private investigator gave them false hope about their
missing daughter by deleting messages from her mobile phone.

Sally and Bob Dowler, the first witnesses to give evidence, will also
describe how the News Of The World (NOTW) intruded on their grief by publishing
a picture of them privately retracing the route Milly was walking home when she
was abducted in 2002.

The trigger for the inquiry was the revelation that the Sunday tabloid
commissioned private detective Glenn Mulcaire to hack the schoolgirl's phone
after she disappeared.

As well as listening to Milly's voicemails, the investigator also erased some
of them to make room for new messages, falsely leading her family to believe she
was still alive, the inquiry was told.

:: Gallery: Leveson Inquiry Witnesses





David Sherborne, counsel for the Dowlers and other victims of press
intrusion, told the inquiry last week that Mrs Dowler felt "euphoria" when she
finally got through to her missing daughter's voicemail as a result of
Mulcaire's deletions.

"Perhaps there are no words which can adequately describe how despicable this
act was," he said.

Mulcaire was jailed along with the NOTW's former royal editor Clive Goodman
in January 2007 after they admitted intercepting voicemail messages left on
phones belonging to royal aides.

Lord Justice Leveson's inquiry will also hear this week from 16 other alleged victims of media
intrusion
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Hollywood actor Hugh Grant will testify after Mr and Mrs Dowler on
Monday.

The star, who has become a fierce critic of the tabloid press over phone
hacking, is expected to be highly critical of a number of newspaper titles.

Last week, the inquiry heard the High Court had recently granted an emergency
injunction to the mother of Grant's baby daughter, to stop the paparazzi from
hounding her.

The hearing was also told that Grant's former girlfriend received threatening
phone calls during the summer, at a time when he was doing numerous media
interviews condemning the tabloid press.

Monday's other witnesses will be lawyer Graham Shear and writer Joan Smith,
whose phone was allegedly hacked because of her relationship with the MP Denis
MacShane.

The Leveson Inquiry began its formal hearings at the Royal Courts of Justice
in London last week.

The first part of the inquiry is looking at the culture, practices and ethics
of the press in general.

The second part, examining the extent of unlawful activities by journalists,
will not begin until detectives have completed their investigation into alleged
phone hacking and corrupt payments to police, and any prosecutions have
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Post  kitti Mon 21 Nov - 7:39

The dowlers lawyer said that the papers printed private things about Milly and when they deleted messages from her voicemail, it gave them false hope that Milly was still alive.



That last bit 'Milly was alive'.....I wonder if the mccanns will use a statement like that in their evidence....
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