Getting Justice

The End Is Nigh wrote:But surely the PJ did want to do their job properly?

Still do, I should think.

Perhaps the pressure not to complete the job came from elsewhere?

The End Is Nigh wrote:Ah yes ................ what indeed.

I hope it is sincere and independent of political (and any other) influence.

But I think Amaral is the key as it will be difficult for SY, for the PJ, for us, or for Investigative Journalists, to ignore anything he has to say in open Court during the Libel Case.

Hopefully, if SY haven't fully taken into account his conclusions hitherto, they'll be hard-pressed to avoid doing so after February.

http://www.met.police.uk/scd/about/s_foy.htm
Specialist Crime
Commander Simon Foy

Name:
Commander Simon Foy
Position:
Head of Homicide and Serious Crime Command, Operation Sapphire and the Child Abuse Investigation Command

Key responsibilities:
Strategic responsibility for the investigation of homicides and rape and the activities of the Child abuse Investigation Teams .

The Madeleine Foundation receives reply from the Madeleine McCann Scotland Yard Review Team

25
JUL
The Madeleine Foundation (TMF) have today had a formal reply from the Madeleine McCann Scotland Yard Review Team to their letter asking for clarification of their terms of reference – and asking specifically if they are prepared to look at evidence which does NOT support the abduction claim of the McCanns.

And it’s good news.
You can read TMF’s letter to Scotland Yard dated 11 July 2011 here:

http://bit.ly/nAJYow

and Scotland Yard’s reply from Detective Chief Inspector Redwood here:

http://tinyurl.com/3f7pbj9

The crucial bits of the letter are the statements quoted below:

“The investigative review will encompass ALL INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED…”

and “Please BY ALL MEANS forward ‘evidence’ which you believe will assist this process…”

and

“Any material submitted will be subject to assessment and review”.

In the light of those comments TMF would suggest that ANYONE who considers they have evidence of any kind, even circumstantial evidence, that Madeleine McCann was NOT abducted, then they should write to DCI Andy Redwood at:

SCD1
Homicide and Serious Crime Command
Room 3.30
1st Floor
Belgravia Police Station
202-206 Buckingham Palace Road
LONDON
SW1W 9SX

Please be specific about what your evidence is, give sources if you can, suggest possible new lines of enquiry if possible, and make sure any letters are polite, courteous and to the point.

Loopdaloop wrote:Does anyone know the structure of this team and who in likelihood makes up the team and any possible political intelligence's
The met police have said in a freedom of information disclosure
http://www.met.police.uk/foi/pdfs/disclosure_2011/september/2011080000691.pdf that the person in charge is Commander Simon Foy

http://www.met.police.uk/scd/about/s_foy.htm
Specialist Crime
Commander Simon Foy

Name:
Commander Simon Foy
Position:
Head of Homicide and Serious Crime Command, Operation Sapphire and the Child Abuse Investigation Command

Key responsibilities:
Strategic responsibility for the investigation of homicides and rape and the activities of the Child abuse Investigation Teams .

and according to the MET Twitter feed he states that “We will be relentless in pursuit of those who have broken the law.”

Lets hope he is!

I just read the following from the internet

The Madeleine Foundation receives reply from the Madeleine McCann Scotland Yard Review Team

25
JUL
The Madeleine Foundation (TMF) have today had a formal reply from the Madeleine McCann Scotland Yard Review Team to their letter asking for clarification of their terms of reference – and asking specifically if they are prepared to look at evidence which does NOT support the abduction claim of the McCanns.

And it’s good news.
You can read TMF’s letter to Scotland Yard dated 11 July 2011 here:

http://bit.ly/nAJYow

and Scotland Yard’s reply from Detective Chief Inspector Redwood here:

http://tinyurl.com/3f7pbj9

The crucial bits of the letter are the statements quoted below:

“The investigative review will encompass ALL INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED…”

and “Please BY ALL MEANS forward ‘evidence’ which you believe will assist this process…”

and

“Any material submitted will be subject to assessment and review”.

In the light of those comments TMF would suggest that ANYONE who considers they have evidence of any kind, even circumstantial evidence, that Madeleine McCann was NOT abducted, then they should write to DCI Andy Redwood at:

SCD1
Homicide and Serious Crime Command
Room 3.30
1st Floor
Belgravia Police Station
202-206 Buckingham Palace Road
LONDON
SW1W 9SX

Please be specific about what your evidence is, give sources if you can, suggest possible new lines of enquiry if possible, and make sure any letters are polite, courteous and to the point.

Perhaps we should finalise some of our concerns raised through threads in this forum and send them off!

NoStone wrote:
'.........This result shows that the police can do their job properly but only if they want to.' - Doreen Lawrence

Our crime reporters, who had spent months investigating the case and had a huge dossier on the suspects, were absolutely convinced of their guilt.

jinvta wrote:I would like to know why Scotland Yard has not demanded a reconstruction. In fact, I don't believe that they should have spent any money on the review until a thorough and proper reconstruction was done. Amaral claims that a reconstruction would be able to prove what happened to Madeleiene, so one absolutely needs to be done. Surely the McCanns and their pals could not refuse SY, whom they claim to have been fully cooperating with.

Loopdaloop wrote:

NoStone wrote:
'.........This result shows that the police can do their job properly but only if they want to.' - Doreen Lawrence

According to this article in the mail they thought they were taking a big risk.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2081934/A-glorious-day-justice-How-Mails-page-little-bit-history.html
They evidently did well with that headline. Perhaps they or other newspapers might like to take a similar risk about the mccanns?

Our crime reporters, who had spent months investigating the case and had a huge dossier on the suspects, were absolutely convinced of their guilt.

I'd love to know what their crime reports dossier says about the mccanns and some honest thoughts (Even if they are anonymous!)

kitti wrote:The quote from mr amaral when the mccanns left Portugal in september.....'it was the british police who decided on the death off the child but when the mccanns left for leicester they changed their minds and decided it was an abduction'....dont hold out much hope the met will deviate from that.

kitti wrote:Did KM say in her book that she wants himself to 'disappear'!


His poor dog got the warning earlier on.....

platinum wrote:

kitti wrote:Did KM say in her book that she wants himself to 'disappear'!


His poor dog got the warning earlier on.....

Do you really think the McCanns had his dog killed?

The End Is Nigh wrote:

platinum wrote:

kitti wrote:Did KM say in her book that she wants himself to 'disappear'!


His poor dog got the warning earlier on.....

Do you really think the McCanns had his dog killed?

That's the first I've heard of this - doesn't sound very nice. Are you suggesting it happened?

On May 10th, the crisis unit’s meeting goes on until 2′oclock in the morning.

I receive a phone call from Sofia, who insists on my going home: our Shitzu dog is dead. She found it that morning, lifeless on the ground, with a head injury. She did everything to make sure the girls did not see it, but she didn’t have the courage to remove him. When I arrive, everyone is already in bed. I place the Shitzu in a plastic bag, not sure about where I am going to be able to bury him. The ground is hard here. it’s not easy to dig a hole and I hardly have the time for it. I decide to drop his remains into a bin. The animal is small, but he seems to weigh more than usual. I use my car to take her. As I am getting rid of it, I realise just how easy it is to hide a body – and how difficult it is to bury….When I get back, I discuss it with Sofia: she is afraid. She asks me to abandon the investigation and to worry about our daughters rather than other people’s. For her, the dog’s death is a bad omen. I reply that she is unfair, that her fears are irrational. Justice must be done for Madeleine, as for all other children and adults. It’s my duty as a police officer: to seek the truth so that justice may be done.

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I certainly agree Platinum. This was far too early for the McCanns to be getting revenge on anyone who dared to challenge them.

Iris wrote:

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I certainly agree Platinum. This was far too early for the McCanns to be getting revenge on anyone who dared to challenge them.

But not too early for Meturdo 3 and the Madeiran nutter. Certainly Dr Amaral himself seemed to think it was a warning of some sort. He had two dogs, a big one and a puppy, and it was the puppy that was killed (it was almost decapitated).

platinum wrote:

Iris wrote:

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I certainly agree Platinum. This was far too early for the McCanns to be getting revenge on anyone who dared to challenge them.

But not too early for Meturdo 3 and the Madeiran nutter. Certainly Dr Amaral himself seemed to think it was a warning of some sort. He had two dogs, a big one and a puppy, and it was the puppy that was killed (it was almost decapitated).

Are you saying Metodo 3 (I don't like the game of inserting dirty words for names) were employed by the McCanns less than seven days after Madeleine went missing? Really? And were they instructed by someone to kill a dog by that stage? Really? And was Correia involved within a week? Really?