Could THIS be the final catalyst for the McCanns?

jeanmonroe wrote:Tariq Jahan found guilty and convicted of GBH, mindless violence and breaking mans jaw, and who admitted to lying to the police.
The same T Jahan that Cameron, McCann worshipper, praised at Pride of Britain awards 2011.
The same T Jahan that politicians, news groups, all media, all FAWNED over as being their new found HERO!
Perhaps the 'support your local thug' brigade MP's , media will now look a tad closer to their new found heroes PAST actions before lavishing their new found 'bandwagon CAUSE' before publicly supporting them to the absolute exclusion of any other peoples views.
I will wager a bet that if T Jahans 'new sycophant friends' had known he was to be charged with GBH and lying to the police they might not have been so EAGER to be seen with him!
Maybe, NOW, the McCann sycophants, politicians, especially, will re-evaluate their supoort for the McCanns by actually LOOKING for themselves at available contradictory evidence.
There's a great deal of difference between 'praising' a local thug, like T Jahan, and being caught in covering up the possible death of a defenceless child!
START LOOKING AT THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE, CAMERON, MILIBAND, CLEGG and MAY.
The McCanns may be finished but you lot will go down with them!

Jahan, who was found not guilty of grievous bodily harm with intent, was spared prison because of his "extraordinary position", according to the judge.

William Davis QC told him: "Ordinarily this would mean that you would go to prison for 12 months but this all happened last July and in August, as everybody in this court knows, you suffered the loss of one of your sons, which was desperate in itself.

"But more particularly, in the aftermath of this loss you took steps which in my judgment... probably prevented really serious disorder continuing in Birmingham."....

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.....................Jahan was said to have left his car and kicked and punched 34-year-old Sajjid Ali after accusing him of staring at his wife.

Mr Ali lost two teeth and suffered a double fracture to the jaw in the confrontation in the Hockley area of Birmingham on July 6 last year.

Jahan, from Winson Green, denied one charge of grievous bodily harm with intent and inflicting grievous bodily harm.

He claimed he was acting in self-defence after Mr Ali head-butted him.

The court was told the pair got into an argument over Jahan sounding his car horn at a van blocking his path.

Mr Ali, who had been speaking to the van driver on the roadside at the time, was accused of mouthing something in an "aggressive manner".

Jahan said: "I asked are you Pakistani, Iraqi, Sikh, Hindu or Muslim, just to try to relate to him. He looked very similar to me and I suspect he was of Asian descent.

"And because he was a young man and he looked upset I was trying to calm him down."

Mr Ali said Jahan accused him of "staring at my missus".

"He punched me and it was on my forehead or somewhere, but I was totally blind. It went in one of my eyes and I just fell down. It was just bang, bang, bang on my head," said Mr Ali.

Jahan admitted he had initially lied to police about his involvement in the incident to protect his family.

"Once you have started with one lie you have to make up 1,000 lies to cover that one. Once I had started there was no turning back," he said.

His defence barrister Ali Naseem Bajwa QC maintained his client, who made no comment as he left court, was acting in self- defence and "was forced" to hit Mr Ali, something he regretted to this day.

The following month, Jahan's 21-year-old son Haroon and brothers Shazad Ali, 30, and Abdul Musavir, 31, were struck by a car and killed when disorder broke out close to their homes in Winson Green.

In court, it emerged Jahan had a previous conviction for false accounting and forgery and a conviction for conspiracy to rob in 1990.

He also received a caution for possession of cannabis in 2003 and a caution in 2004 for assault occasioning actual bodily harm, in which he had attacked his stepmother.

malena stool wrote:With his rich powerful friends and such a fine reputation for violence, false accounting, forgery, conspiracy and lying he's got a fair chance of being accepted as a member of Parliament.

AnnaEsse wrote:

malena stool wrote:With his rich powerful friends and such a fine reputation for violence, false accounting, forgery, conspiracy and lying he's got a fair chance of being accepted as a member of Parliament.

Well, if Gorgeous George can make it, this man can!

malena stool wrote:With his rich powerful friends and such a fine reputation for violence, false accounting, forgery, conspiracy and lying he's got a fair chance of being accepted as a member of Parliament.

LJC wrote:

malena stool wrote:With his rich powerful friends and such a fine reputation for violence, false accounting, forgery, conspiracy and lying he's got a fair chance of being accepted as a member of Parliament.

Yes very funny. This man has done alot wrong in his life, that is true, but please please please, he has lost his son and he prevented other lives being lost. If the Muslim community had seeked their revenge for the killings of three young men in Birmingham, much blood was have been shed. He prevented all of that.

malena stool wrote:

LJC wrote:

malena stool wrote:With his rich powerful friends and such a fine reputation for violence, false accounting, forgery, conspiracy and lying he's got a fair chance of being accepted as a member of Parliament.

Yes very funny. This man has done alot wrong in his life, that is true, but please please please, he has lost his son and he prevented other lives being lost. If the Muslim community had seeked their revenge for the killings of three young men in Birmingham, much blood was have been shed. He prevented all of that.

Point taken LJC, but he is not a pillar of virtue and should not be extolled as one. The muslim community are not the only ones who have lost people, Scottish, Irish, English, West Indian and American communities of all faiths have suffered through civil unrest.

LJC wrote:

malena stool wrote:

LJC wrote:

malena stool wrote:With his rich powerful friends and such a fine reputation for violence, false accounting, forgery, conspiracy and lying he's got a fair chance of being accepted as a member of Parliament.

Yes very funny. This man has done alot wrong in his life, that is true, but please please please, he has lost his son and he prevented other lives being lost. If the Muslim community had seeked their revenge for the killings of three young men in Birmingham, much blood was have been shed. He prevented all of that.

Point taken LJC, but he is not a pillar of virtue and should not be extolled as one. The muslim community are not the only ones who have lost people, Scottish, Irish, English, West Indian and American communities of all faiths have suffered through civil unrest.

Yes, and Scottish, Irish, English, West Indian, Welsh maybe, all of them were involved in the riots in one way or another, there were so many involved it crossed the boundaries of communities, but this man did more than anyone to end the riots that beset so many of our British cities. Do you think the rioters would have listened to an MP? No and neither would they listen to their community leaders. But they would listen to someone who was on their level, who knew what it was like to be on the wrong side of the law. Believe me, the riots would have run for much longer and the consequences would have been far reaching in view of the deaths in Birmingham, were it not for the actions of one man.

I am in no way putting him on a pedestal, but I do believe he has repaid society for all of his past wrongdoing by preventing further repercussions.

jeanmonroe wrote:Tariq Jahan found guilty and convicted of GBH, mindless violence and breaking mans jaw, and who admitted to lying to the police.
The same T Jahan that Cameron, McCann worshipper, praised at Pride of Britain awards 2011.
The same T Jahan that politicians, news groups, all media, all FAWNED over as being their new found HERO!
Perhaps the 'support your local thug' brigade MP's , media will now look a tad closer to ANY new found 'heroes' PAST actions before lavishing their new found 'bandwagon CAUSE' by publicly supporting them to the absolute exclusion of any other peoples views.
I will wager a bet that if T Jahans 'new sycophant friends' had known he was to be charged with GBH and lying to the police they might not have been so EAGER to be seen with him!
Maybe, NOW, the McCann sycophants, politicians, especially, will re-evaluate their support for the McCanns by actually LOOKING for themselves at available contradictory evidence.
There's a great deal of difference between 'praising' a local thug, like T Jahan, and being caught in covering up the possible death of a defenceless child!
START LOOKING AT THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE, CAMERON, MILIBAND, CLEGG and MAY.
I'm sure there are lots of 'interns' who will gladly look through the files for you and advise you accordingly.
Some might even know where to get a barge pole!
The McCanns may be finished but you lot will go down with them if you do NOTHING!

tigger wrote:I can also see no parallel here. The McCanns have imo consistently lied and cheated, ruined peoples lives and livelihoods and are in the case of T.Bennett, still intend on bankrupting him.

Tariq Jahan at least seems to have an understanding of right and wrong and was unable to control his temper. Has no one here ever thrown a piece of crockery at the wall instead of hitting an infuriating person?
I used - when times were bad - have crockery standing by for just such an emergency. Can't recommend it too highly.

LJC wrote:

tigger wrote:I can also see no parallel here. The McCanns have imo consistently lied and cheated, ruined peoples lives and livelihoods and are in the case of T.Bennett, still intend on bankrupting him.

Tariq Jahan at least seems to have an understanding of right and wrong and was unable to control his temper. Has no one here ever thrown a piece of crockery at the wall instead of hitting an infuriating person?
I used - when times were bad - have crockery standing by for just such an emergency. Can't recommend it too highly.

Quite so. This man has received a suspended prison sentence, 100 hours unpaid work requirement, and he must pay £1,000 compensation to his victim. Mr Jahan now wants his community to be his judge. Whatever wrongs he has committed in the past, he was punished for them in the past and paid the price. This latest conviction is the here and now, not in the past, and the here and now also incorporates the loss of his beloved son and his actions in the hours that followed and this was taken into account by the Judge. Mr Jahan spoke passionately and genuinely in the aftermath of his son's death and whatever one thinks of his past, you could see the sincerity in him when he spoke during the riots. The man had a broken heart and did not want anyone else to suffer as he had done. I think that is enough said.

AnnaEsse wrote:

LJC wrote:

tigger wrote:I can also see no parallel here. The McCanns have imo consistently lied and cheated, ruined peoples lives and livelihoods and are in the case of T.Bennett, still intend on bankrupting him.

Tariq Jahan at least seems to have an understanding of right and wrong and was unable to control his temper. Has no one here ever thrown a piece of crockery at the wall instead of hitting an infuriating person?
I used - when times were bad - have crockery standing by for just such an emergency. Can't recommend it too highly.

Quite so. This man has received a suspended prison sentence, 100 hours unpaid work requirement, and he must pay £1,000 compensation to his victim. Mr Jahan now wants his community to be his judge. Whatever wrongs he has committed in the past, he was punished for them in the past and paid the price. This latest conviction is the here and now, not in the past, and the here and now also incorporates the loss of his beloved son and his actions in the hours that followed and this was taken into account by the Judge. Mr Jahan spoke passionately and genuinely in the aftermath of his son's death and whatever one thinks of his past, you could see the sincerity in him when he spoke during the riots. The man had a broken heart and did not want anyone else to suffer as he had done. I think that is enough said.

For me, his redeeming factor is his owing up to lying, that once he had lied, he just carried on. One lie led to many. That is a very brave thing to say.