What will happen when NSY can't find Maddie, either?

Sounds good LOTV and has cheered me up no end, particularly reading similar comment on Jill Havern`s under a thread entitled `Not Very New But`...

Look forward to any more info but please be careful about quoting sources - we don`t want to upset the applecart if things are chugging away nicely behind the scenes.

I don't know because my son is like my hubby telling me to give up on it and that the McCanns are been well protected and are fed up of me harping on about it) and he told my son to tell me that the McCanns will wish that they had got charged with neglecting their kids.....by the time SY are finished with them.

Sounds like my house.lol
I hope that the comment is true and that really does happen, wouldn't it be fantastic if after all this time?

mara thon wrote:As far as I am aware since the day Madeleine was reported as "missing" not one person in any kind of authority has so much as criticised the Mccanns for leaving their children alone, far from it, they have been feted as some kind of modern day saints. Not once have their conflicting and ever changing stories been queried, not once has anyone questioned why the "fund" should be available to support not only the Mccann parents but their wider family, not once has anyone queried just why so many fund raising events were made months in advance, which to my mind virtually stated that they knew Madeleine wouldn't be found. There are many many questions that never seem to have been asked and I very much doubt ever will be.

It really is no surprise that other "less well off" people tried to copy the Mccanns, lose your child, make a fortune. Just exactly what were the favours being called in that led to the British government sending out it's own spokesman and allowed the British press to badmouth the Portugese in the most disgusting and disgraceful way?

Do I think there will ever be any justice for Madeleine? Sorry but no I don't, I'm only surprised there isn't a world shortage of whitewash.

My views entirely and whatever the Met Officer said off the cuff, that's just personal feelings, not an official statement, so I shan't hold my breath.

Lillyofthevalley wrote:

My son and his partner have been away in Edinburgh, he got back late last night, he has just got up but ruhed off, but the first thing he said was that they got talking to a Met Police officer.
They went for a meal in a fancy Indian Restaurant and they got talking to a couple, who they had seen in the Restaurant and then later back in the hotel bar, the Guy worked for NSY, (how the hell they got on about this case I don't know because my son is like my hubby telling me to give up on it and that the McCanns are been well protected and are fed up of me harping on about it) and he told my son to tell me that the McCanns will wish that they had got charged with neglecting their kids.....by the time SY are finished with them.

He has gone off to the gym, can't wait to talk to him when he gets back

There's a bit of a saying, hopefully it will apply to this case/ Review; ....... " You don't fluck with the Met, they fluck with you "

Last Year I was on a Plane going to Tenerife and got chatting to the couple sitting next to me, as you do. It turned out that the Husband was a Detective who had to retire early through ill health. Needless to say I asked him what he thought of the McCann case and he said everyone at the Station believes that Madeleine died in 5a and the McCanns are guilty of disposal of her body, how is the riddle !!!

Great News LOTL.

Quite so, Panda: It's so clear to anybody who owns at least one brain cell that the disappearance of Madeleine has many aspects which point heavily in one direction, vis-a-vis culpability.

But I have a problem in not subscribing to the various suggestions that the failure thus far to create a viable Case are due to influences that arise from Masonic stuff, "Class", "Power" , Politics, Conspiracy etc.

I think it is more likely to be a fortunate (for the perpetrators) set of circumstances and coincidences that certain wily people quickly began to turn to their advantage. And yes, pulling the wool over the eyes of a few influential contacts who should have known better than to get personally involved.

But I'm happy to eat Panda's hat if it all turns out to be a machiavellian plot permeating several Police Forces, umpteen Politicians of various shades, a compliant Press etc.

Far more important than any hat-eating, however, is that whatever we individually believe is (or is not) a sinister feature of the Case, we should all continue to work to keep the affair alive and kicking in the public gaze until we finally do get to know the TRUTH.

fred wrote:

I don't know because my son is like my hubby telling me to give up on it and that the McCanns are been well protected and are fed up of me harping on about it) and he told my son to tell me that the McCanns will wish that they had got charged with neglecting their kids.....by the time SY are finished with them.

Sounds like my house.lol
I hope that the comment is true and that really does happen, wouldn't it be fantastic if after all this time?

It appears that SY has quite a reputation, which I really hope holds good in this case. I'm just watching a 48 Hours mystery and an American police detective says, "It doesn't take Scotland Yard to figure out...."

The End Is Nigh wrote:Quite so, Panda: It's so clear to anybody who owns at least one brain cell that the disappearance of Madeleine has many aspects which point heavily in one direction, vis-a-vis culpability.

But I have a problem in not subscribing to the various suggestions that the failure thus far to create a viable Case are due to influences that arise from Masonic stuff, "Class", "Power" , Politics, Conspiracy etc.

I think it is more likely to be a fortunate (for the perpetrators) set of circumstances and coincidences that certain wily people quickly began to turn to their advantage. And yes, pulling the wool over the eyes of a few influential contacts who should have known better than to get personally involved.

But I'm happy to eat Panda's hat if it all turns out to be a machiavellian plot permeating several Police Forces, umpteen Politicians of various shades, a compliant Press etc.

Far more important than any hat-eating, however, is that whatever we individually believe is (or is not) a sinister feature of the Case, we should all continue to work to keep the affair alive and kicking in the public gaze until we finally do get to know the TRUTH.

I think TEIN the reason we are still discussing this case after 5 yrs is at the very beginning , while the public could accept the Mccanns were negligent ,
it was unthinkable that the McCanns could be responsible and that Madeleine was indeed abducted. However as time went on Forums and Blogs
on the internet multiplied dramatically , and we are getting information which confirms our opinion that Madeleine was not abducted and her Parents
culpable. (some Forums DO believe the McCanns innocent). Meanwhile the Press are still very pro McCann, they have to be because they risk getting sued if they dare question anything, and the unheard of help the McCanns got from Government, a PR guy who shields them from any scrutiny, a maudlin
Celebrity status ensures they are the untouchables .....so far!!!! Let's just hope justice is seen to be done at the end of the day. Why don't you eat your own Hat.?

Haven't got one ..................

The End Is Nigh wrote:Haven't got one ..................

Looking at the state of your hair you should perhaps buy one!

Chris wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:Haven't got one ..................

Looking at the state of your hair you should perhaps buy one!

Go on chris, lend him a Comb Actually I suspect TIEN has vowed that he won't have a haircut 'til the McCanns are behind bars.

They have been working on this case for nearly a year and apart from the odd Sunday headline we don't know what's happening. I can only think that maybe SY are being thorough and sifting through all the information. I don't think there is a cover up because as others have said the mcs would've been told to shut up and keep out of the limelight.

They possibly have friends in high places and maybe some very influential benefactors, but basically the fund is paying the high powered legal team. Obviously I live in hope that truth and justice will prevail and one day we'll know the full facts.

During the first year the mcs clammed up about the case because of the judicial secrecy. In July 2008 they seemed startled to be de-arguidoed and still kept schtum about the case and didn't request a reopening while they still could. Slowly they found their voices again and then the literary career took over. They had interviews everywhere, but not many in the UK. They gatecrashed every 'missing' event they could and will now attend number 10. Everything is orchestrated and stage managed. IMO if they were genuine they'd be accepting all those alleged invitations to appear on chat shows for the 5th anniversary and be shouting from the rooftops to the abductor.

If you speak the truth you don't need a script, the words come naturally from the heart. They seem scared to me and daren't deviate from the script or be interviewed separately. It all seems like a great effort to talk about the case and although it might make some people think they are so dejected, but it feels like they're bored with the pretence.

The press will get their pound of flesh. They have lost money and do not want to loose any more to the McCanns so are very happy to sit and wait. And wait they will but my god when they get half a chance they will show no mercy. I could nearly feel sorry for the McCanns such will be the revenge the press take. The press will never loose.

I often think that the PJ did not charge them with neglect because they believed there was much more and wanted to go all the way with them. When this did not happen and they got back to the UK, could the UK legally speaking have charged them with neglect ? Regardless of the legal issues at that time there was also a fair amount of sympathy, in so far as even those who felt what they did was wrong also felt they had suffered enough. They were in a legal sort of limbo really, PJ closed the file, what could the UK do ?.

But they could not leave the limelight behind or stop the money generating fund. Had they stayed behind closed doors and got on with looking after their other children while leaving it to suitably qualified detectives to continue with the search things could be very different for them now. Every word out of their mouths gave people more and more reason to question them and that has what has brought us all to where we are today. And time heals all wounds. The fear of being caught out that they would have felt in the early days will have diminished as the years have passed. They have become complacent.

Kate is fond of rocks and the bewk could well be the rock on which she will perish. She clearly states it is the truth of what happened. All well and good but little of what is written corresponds with what she said at the time in her police statements etc. Therefore, she is admitting she lied at that time. The one time in her life when she should have done her best to recount every single second with total accuracy. And now a sequel to the book. That quite honestly is dispicable. It seems as time goes on they become more and more ruthless, to the point where they now seem to have no regard at all for Madeleine. Anbody else would have themselves chained to the railings of Downing Street, demanding a full investigation, by SY, the FBI, anybody who has the resources to search for a missing child. Not trotting off to Sweden on the basis she might be there because, as Gerry said, of her colouring.

Einstein himself could not form an opinion on what happened based on what is in those files. Nothing makes sense, no two accounts of any single minute in any single day are the same. Grown adults, educated people, not being able to remember what they did in the previous 24 or 48 hours - were they permanently drinking or what ? SY could not possibly agree with the abduction theory without at the very least re-questioning the couple and their friends to establish what they told lies about. Because lie they did, that is absolutely certain. What they lied about we do not know.

If SY produce a report that is stamped and filed away with no further action, then they and those who have instructed them to do this should hang their heads in shame.

They should think about one thing, each and every one of them. If they thought their little girl was out there somewhere and those that could help would not because of some self preserving need to save face and whatever else they needed to hide, how would they feel.

Ive spoken with my son this morning, I asked him to explaine more about his little chat, he said it wasn't actually him who asked, but his partner who asked the Met Officer what he thought about the McCanns case, because she knows Im very involved in the case, he said that the Officer just came out with the one comment nothing else, and they started talking about Chelsea because my Son was in Manchester recently watching the Man City v Chealsea game, I said didn't she ask him if he thought the McCanns were covering something up regards Madeleine, he said "NO we didn't continue the conversation Mum" that was it sadly.

I asked my son if he thought the guy was genuine, he said yes def....... He said "for a copper he was a really nice guy"