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any word about Gonçalo Amaral yet? edit verdict ruled against GA but he was cleared of toture

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Post  kathybelle Tue 17 Jul - 18:42

Does anyone when the court case between the McCanns and Tony Bennett is taking place?
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Post  Lillyofthevalley Tue 17 Jul - 18:45

Oldartform wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Oldartform wrote:
Justiceforallkids wrote:From Marcos
we were declared NON-GUILTY of all charges;
the torture of Leonor Cipriano perpetrated by the portuguese police is once again confirmed;
the serious and active involvement of Goncalo de Sousa Amaral in that torture is once again confirmed;Goncalo de Sousa Amaral was condemn to pay all the court expenses;
since the Public Prosecutor also asked for the non-guilty verdict, no more appeals are possible.

Please divulge!

Thank you friends!

How come this man is saying the opposite? He continues to defame and seems to get away with it.


Because he's a nutter!

I give up. I really don`t know how Goncalo continues to stay strong when he`s having to fight such corruption.


I agree and its a sad state that its coming from within Portugual, Amaral has enough on his hands dealing with Team McCann.

Kathybelle, I pray that the McCanns DONT drop their case against Amaral they need tobe taken down and if the case goes against the McCanns which Im positive it will, this could be when the media turns against the two neglecting Doctors and their friends....thats if SY/PJ haven't turned against them by then!!!!!
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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 17 Jul - 18:47

Oldartform wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Oldartform wrote:
Justiceforallkids wrote:From Marcos
we were declared NON-GUILTY of all charges;
the torture of Leonor Cipriano perpetrated by the portuguese police is once again confirmed;
the serious and active involvement of Goncalo de Sousa Amaral in that torture is once again confirmed;Goncalo de Sousa Amaral was condemn to pay all the court expenses;
since the Public Prosecutor also asked for the non-guilty verdict, no more appeals are possible.

Please divulge!

Thank you friends!

How come this man is saying the opposite? He continues to defame and seems to get away with it.


Because he's a nutter!

I give up. I really don`t know how Goncalo continues to stay strong when he`s having to fight such corruption.


I don't think it's corruption. I don't even think the lawyer was lying. I think he possibly believes what comes out of his mouth, which is much harder to deal with than lying. Even when the judge said it hadn't been established that Amaral witnessed the torture or coordinated the team that carried it out, that nutter is still saying that Amaral is guilty of torture. He's got serious mental health problems I reckon.
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Post  almostgothic Tue 17 Jul - 18:51

kathybelle wrote:Does anyone when the court case between the McCanns and Tony Bennett is taking place?

According to JH forum it's likely to be October.
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Post  Lillyofthevalley Tue 17 Jul - 18:56

Oldartform wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Oldartform wrote:
Justiceforallkids wrote:From Marcos
we were declared NON-GUILTY of all charges;
the torture of Leonor Cipriano perpetrated by the portuguese police is once again confirmed;
the serious and active involvement of Goncalo de Sousa Amaral in that torture is once again confirmed;Goncalo de Sousa Amaral was condemn to pay all the court expenses;
since the Public Prosecutor also asked for the non-guilty verdict, no more appeals are possible.

Please divulge!

Thank you friends!

How come this man is saying the opposite? He continues to defame and seems to get away with it.


Because he's a nutter!

I give up. I really don`t know how Goncalo continues to stay strong when he`s having to fight such corruption.


Because he is made of stronger stuff then Team McCann realise, thankfully.
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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 17 Jul - 18:57

Lillyofthevalley wrote:
Oldartform wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Oldartform wrote:
Justiceforallkids wrote:From Marcos
we were declared NON-GUILTY of all charges;
the torture of Leonor Cipriano perpetrated by the portuguese police is once again confirmed;
the serious and active involvement of Goncalo de Sousa Amaral in that torture is once again confirmed;Goncalo de Sousa Amaral was condemn to pay all the court expenses;
since the Public Prosecutor also asked for the non-guilty verdict, no more appeals are possible.

Please divulge!

Thank you friends!

How come this man is saying the opposite? He continues to defame and seems to get away with it.


Because he's a nutter!

I give up. I really don`t know how Goncalo continues to stay strong when he`s having to fight such corruption.


Because he is made of stronger stuff then Team McCann realise, thankfully.

Absolutely!
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Post  Claudia79 Tue 17 Jul - 20:45

AnnaEsse wrote:The decision in this case also shows how difficult it is to get a guilty decision for defamation.

And thankfully so. Some people may find it unfair but I prefer to live in a country where people are allowed to express their opinions without fear of being sued right, left and centre. The judge basically stated that what the nutcase stated was a lie but that because he trusted what Leonor had told him there is no reason for him to be convicted. They considered that having trusted Leonor he had the right to put what she told him in writing even if it isn't the truth because he believed it was (Kate and Gerry, a tip for you here!). As much as I would like the nutcase to be convicted for a personal pleasure, I can't be a hypocrite and say this is the wrong decision. As far as I'm concerned, it wasn't. I hope, though, that this standard is applied to other cases and I hope my country will never become a happy sue country. We've had almost 50 years of censorship and we don't want those memories to come back ever.
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I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!
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Post  fuzeta Tue 17 Jul - 21:52

Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255
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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 17 Jul - 21:55

fuzeta wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255

Reporting from my town: it has not rained today! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
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Post  Claudia79 Tue 17 Jul - 21:58

cherry1 wrote:Hope you enjoyed it! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 83637

I hate it, Cherry! It must be my German side (it's the only chance I got to invoke it!). any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
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Post  Claudia79 Tue 17 Jul - 21:59

fuzeta wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255

Sorry, Fuzeta! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255 I didn't mean to brag. I meant it as a moan! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
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Post  Claudia79 Tue 17 Jul - 22:00

AnnaEsse wrote:
fuzeta wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255

Reporting from my town: it has not rained today! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
Here was just like hell but hotter!
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For crying out loud, someone get a mod over here and stop this ridiculous off topic party! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 17 Jul - 22:01

Claudia79 wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
fuzeta wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255

Reporting from my town: it has not rained today! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
Here was just like hell but hotter!

I'm not a fan of really hot weather.
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Post  snowflake Tue 17 Jul - 22:03

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fuzeta wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255

Reporting from my town: it has not rained today! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

nor mine any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124 any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
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Post  Claudia79 Tue 17 Jul - 22:06

AnnaEsse wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
fuzeta wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255

Reporting from my town: it has not rained today! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
Here was just like hell but hotter!

I'm not a fan of really hot weather.

Me neither. Which reminds me that I actually hate it.
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cherry1 wrote:I can understand that snowflake! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124


I agree any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124 any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 17 Jul - 22:09

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fuzeta wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255

Reporting from my town: it has not rained today! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

nor mine any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124 any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

Amazingly, I think there may have been a few places in the UK where it didn't rain today! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124
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Post  fuzeta Tue 17 Jul - 22:17

snowflake wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
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Claudia79 wrote:I bet this verdic has already been photocopied to use at a later date! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

ETA: Completely off topic, I know, but today we had 38.2Cº here!!!

Rub it in Claudia, what with us in the UK having constant rain. It has started to feel like normal life to go out and get soaked everyday. When the sun puts in a brief appearance we get afraid. A reporting of it warrants a news item as if it's a UFO any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 613255

Reporting from my town: it has not rained today! any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

nor mine any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124 any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 294124

Now you come to mention it, it has not in ours either. Although thick grey cloud, no UFO . Made up for it through last night though. So actually we still have not had a full day without it.
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Post  Oldartform Tue 17 Jul - 22:34

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AnnaEsse wrote:The decision in this case also shows how difficult it is to get a guilty decision for defamation.

And thankfully so. Some people may find it unfair but I prefer to live in a country where people are allowed to express their opinions without fear of being sued right, left and centre. The judge basically stated that what the nutcase stated was a lie but that because he trusted what Leonor had told him there is no reason for him to be convicted. They considered that having trusted Leonor he had the right to put what she told him in writing even if it isn't the truth because he believed it was (Kate and Gerry, a tip for you here!). As much as I would like the nutcase to be convicted for a personal pleasure, I can't be a hypocrite and say this is the wrong decision. As far as I'm concerned, it wasn't. I hope, though, that this standard is applied to other cases and I hope my country will never become a happy sue country. We've had almost 50 years of censorship and we don't want those memories to come back ever.

Thanks Claudia - yes, I see where you`re coming from. And yes, it does seem so unfair when everyone must see that the nutter has always had a grudge against GA. What`s worse is that some other nutters who have certain powers have been taking the nutter`s side. Just makes me wonder what the hell is behind it all.
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Post  Claudia79 Tue 17 Jul - 22:38

Oldartform wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:The decision in this case also shows how difficult it is to get a guilty decision for defamation.

And thankfully so. Some people may find it unfair but I prefer to live in a country where people are allowed to express their opinions without fear of being sued right, left and centre. The judge basically stated that what the nutcase stated was a lie but that because he trusted what Leonor had told him there is no reason for him to be convicted. They considered that having trusted Leonor he had the right to put what she told him in writing even if it isn't the truth because he believed it was (Kate and Gerry, a tip for you here!). As much as I would like the nutcase to be convicted for a personal pleasure, I can't be a hypocrite and say this is the wrong decision. As far as I'm concerned, it wasn't. I hope, though, that this standard is applied to other cases and I hope my country will never become a happy sue country. We've had almost 50 years of censorship and we don't want those memories to come back ever.

Thanks Claudia - yes, I see where you`re coming from. And yes, it does seem so unfair when everyone must see that the nutter has always had a grudge against GA. What`s worse is that some other nutters who have certain powers have been taking the nutter`s side. Just makes me wonder what the hell is behind it all.

He has to take it easy, though. If he repeats his claims, with the content of this verdict, he can be sued again and this time there's a lot more chance of him losing because now he can't use the 'I trusted my client' excuse. any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 847843
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Post  Oldartform Tue 17 Jul - 22:58

Claudia79 wrote:
Oldartform wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:The decision in this case also shows how difficult it is to get a guilty decision for defamation.

And thankfully so. Some people may find it unfair but I prefer to live in a country where people are allowed to express their opinions without fear of being sued right, left and centre. The judge basically stated that what the nutcase stated was a lie but that because he trusted what Leonor had told him there is no reason for him to be convicted. They considered that having trusted Leonor he had the right to put what she told him in writing even if it isn't the truth because he believed it was (Kate and Gerry, a tip for you here!). As much as I would like the nutcase to be convicted for a personal pleasure, I can't be a hypocrite and say this is the wrong decision. As far as I'm concerned, it wasn't. I hope, though, that this standard is applied to other cases and I hope my country will never become a happy sue country. We've had almost 50 years of censorship and we don't want those memories to come back ever.

Thanks Claudia - yes, I see where you`re coming from. And yes, it does seem so unfair when everyone must see that the nutter has always had a grudge against GA. What`s worse is that some other nutters who have certain powers have been taking the nutter`s side. Just makes me wonder what the hell is behind it all.

He has to take it easy, though. If he repeats his claims, with the content of this verdict, he can be sued again and this time there's a lot more chance of him losing because now he can't use the 'I trusted my client' excuse. any word  about Gonçalo Amaral  yet?  edit    verdict ruled against  GA  but he  was  cleared of toture - Page 2 847843

From what JFAK said, he already has repeated his claims :

From Marcos
" we were declared NON-GUILTY of all charges;
the torture of Leonor Cipriano perpetrated by the portuguese police is once again confirmed;
the serious and active involvement of Goncalo de Sousa Amaral in that torture is once again confirmed;Goncalo de Sousa Amaral was condemn to pay all the court expenses;
since the Public Prosecutor also asked for the non-guilty verdict, no more appeals are possible.

Please divulge!

Thank you friends! "

Git.



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