Blacksmith- A worthless Weapon
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marxman- Platinum Poster
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Yes, there's a parallel debate about it in the Complaints etc Section "Just Got Banned ...." Thread, but there's a particular reason for that.
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t22743p30-just-got-banned-from-haverns#431869
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t22743p30-just-got-banned-from-haverns#431869
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Suffice it to say that the latest offering destroys entirely the decent value of the last few and seems to revert to the unpleasant carping from him/them a few weeks ago.
I thought then (as did others) that there were perhaps several people contributing under the name, but I'm seriously wondering if it is but one person with a rather variable mindset.
I thought then (as did others) that there were perhaps several people contributing under the name, but I'm seriously wondering if it is but one person with a rather variable mindset.
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Sorry if I messed up with the posting. I began to think BS might be Edwards.
As far as I can see, Blacksmith started around February 2011.
Edwards joined JH in May 2011 and joined here on the same date.
In any case, BS gives a lot away in this article. What I really want to know: Who did he have to report to?
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I got banned before accomplishing anything. Why join a forum to try and pass a message under the public gaze? Because any written and confidential appeal would, as always, be plastered up on Mr Bennett’s site unredacted. Anyway, I had to report back and admit that I had failed completely.
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As far as I can see, Blacksmith started around February 2011.
Edwards joined JH in May 2011 and joined here on the same date.
In any case, BS gives a lot away in this article. What I really want to know: Who did he have to report to?
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I got banned before accomplishing anything. Why join a forum to try and pass a message under the public gaze? Because any written and confidential appeal would, as always, be plastered up on Mr Bennett’s site unredacted. Anyway, I had to report back and admit that I had failed completely.
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No mess up, Tigger: It followed on quite nicely from the theme of that Thread
Who was he to report to?
His alter-ego (Or one of them)?
More likely it's just self-aggrandisement.
Who was he to report to?
His alter-ego (Or one of them)?
More likely it's just self-aggrandisement.
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The "report back" remark could just be a figure of speech.
I really don't know what to make of Blacksmith's comments but that is nothing unusual.
I really don't know what to make of Blacksmith's comments but that is nothing unusual.
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"There’s nothing new about my views: months ago I described the Jill Havern site as a sh****** that anyone with an ounce of self-respect should leave immediately. And the same goes to a very large extent for the Missing Madeleine site."
Un donneur de leçons qui ferait mieux de commencer par faire son auto-critique!
Un donneur de leçons qui ferait mieux de commencer par faire son auto-critique!
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The 'report back' comment maybe to his bureau,
He did say before that he was not a lone blogger
but one of many.
He did say before that he was not a lone blogger
but one of many.
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marxman wrote:http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/
Thanks marxman, I found this lttle snippet on one of the previous posts:-
Sunday, 15 May 2011
A footnote, provided by Kate
McCann
On July 7 2008 Mrs Justice Hogg gave judgement in the Family Division of the
High Court regarding the attempt by Kate & Gerry McCann to gain access to
all the Leicester Police documents regarding the disappearance of Madeleine
McCann.
The judgement was by agreement between the parties and was made in open
court.
M/S Kate McCann in her book Madeleine has now provided an except
from the official submission of Leicester Police to the court regarding the
matter and outlining the reasons why they could not agree to provide the
documents. Signed by the assistant chief constable of Leicestershire it
runs:
“While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear
evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s
disappearance.”
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He appears to have quite a few personalities but the predominant one seems to be seriously disturbed.
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I don't think he suffers fools gladly and maybe has been imbibing the Gin ,or whatever is his favourite tipple when he pens some of his more prolix (thanks C Edwards ) Articles.
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either that or he has eaten too much horse meat!
Its made him a bit unstable!
Its made him a bit unstable!
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Not Born Yesterday wrote:The "report back" remark could just be a figure of speech.
I really don't know what to make of Blacksmith's comments but that is nothing unusual.
I'm not thinking TM at all, just weird about reporting back to base. So one might think of a combined effort.
But: Because any written and confidential appeal would, as always, be plastered up on Mr Bennett’s site unredacted - unquote
If he wanted to send confidential information to TB he could do it by post, TB has made no secret of his address or telephone number or indeed his email address. He could ask for it not to be published on the site and I'm sure TB would then not do so.
Also: why should confidential advice unredacted mean trouble for Blacksmith? Is his advice classified information?
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Dark satire ...... I love it.
Biting sarcasm with delicious cruelty ...... I love it.
Ego-driven, grudge-laden cruelty ...... Nah. Anyone could write that.
Blacksmith - let it go.
Why? Because it perpetuates a festering war of attrition which benefits no-one.
Because as a long-haul follower of this saga, I have admired many of your pieces of writing over several years.
And having appreciated such writing, I know you're better than this.
Biting sarcasm with delicious cruelty ...... I love it.
Ego-driven, grudge-laden cruelty ...... Nah. Anyone could write that.
Blacksmith - let it go.
Why? Because it perpetuates a festering war of attrition which benefits no-one.
Because as a long-haul follower of this saga, I have admired many of your pieces of writing over several years.
And having appreciated such writing, I know you're better than this.
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A worthless weapon–continued
Saturday, 9 February 2013
A worthless weapon–continued
John Blacksmith writes: I very rarely respond or allow comments because doing so inevitably brings the place down into forum swamp territory.
Let's make an exception today, shall we? It is a post by one of the sycophants that was pointed out to me a short time ago. It runs:
"tigger, this is very interesting.
So 'Blacksmith' is saying that he joined the forum to make [Tony] aware of certain things and 'why he was going to destroy himself' and then got banned before accomplishing anything...
There was a poster called 'Me' who was on this forum for some time.
He then stayed away for a long time.
He suddenly started posting actively a week ago.
He started trying to 'make Tony aware of certain things'.
He didn't exactly say that Tony was 'going to destroy himself' but he did keep on and on about Tony going the wrong way about it etc.
And for that reason, 'Me' got banned recently from the forum.
One other thing I noticed about 'Me's postings.
He described in very exaggerated language how wonderful 'Blacksmith' was.
Repeately.
Again and again.
Has 'Blacksmith' just admitted to everyone on this forum that, all along, he was 'Me'?
I am quoting it because confirms almost everything I've said about the Havern/Bennett swamp: ignorance; unwillingness or inability to look for the facts; instinctive aggression as a response; disloyalty to their own forum posters and comical, indeed absurd, stupidity.
First we have the weasel words "has Blacksmith just admitted?" an evasion of what s/he has just posted worthy of the McCanns. Let's go through the rest, shall we? First the instinctive Haverns belief that others are as incapable of telling the truth as they are and that I am likely to be lying. Then the complete disregard for one of the site's own posters: no awareness at all that if the poster is wrong the poster "Me" has been embarrassed and traduced without a scrap of evidence. No change there then. Other posters should note that the site is like Scientology: once you're out, even only a few weeks ago, you're finished and your feelings, like "Me"'s are ignored. Bad luck "Me" – but what on earth were you doing in the swamp in the first place?
"Ignorance and unwillingness to look for the facts before dumping thoughts on the site." We've got that in spades: this character hasn't checked with the so-called owner, Havern, Me, or the site's own records. When Your Leader made the charge against "Me" himself before he was banned he sighed and told the Leader that the moderators knew his real name. Forgotten that, have you? The "comical stupidity" speaks for itself.
For the record, you dimmo, I joined Havern's under the name Blacksmith. I did so years ago at the time of the then most recent PR disaster – the battle between Butler and your Leader. And a very unpleasant experience it was too, since Havern had the idea of running the site unmoderated and it was like entering a sackful of snakes. Despite the lack of moderation Havern quickly banned me herself: she, or Mr Bennett, didn't like me.
I need hardly add that I know nothing about Me, other than what I read on the swamp.
And you really think I need to big myself up under someone else's name? You poor creature.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/
A worthless weapon–continued
John Blacksmith writes: I very rarely respond or allow comments because doing so inevitably brings the place down into forum swamp territory.
Let's make an exception today, shall we? It is a post by one of the sycophants that was pointed out to me a short time ago. It runs:
"tigger, this is very interesting.
So 'Blacksmith' is saying that he joined the forum to make [Tony] aware of certain things and 'why he was going to destroy himself' and then got banned before accomplishing anything...
There was a poster called 'Me' who was on this forum for some time.
He then stayed away for a long time.
He suddenly started posting actively a week ago.
He started trying to 'make Tony aware of certain things'.
He didn't exactly say that Tony was 'going to destroy himself' but he did keep on and on about Tony going the wrong way about it etc.
And for that reason, 'Me' got banned recently from the forum.
One other thing I noticed about 'Me's postings.
He described in very exaggerated language how wonderful 'Blacksmith' was.
Repeately.
Again and again.
Has 'Blacksmith' just admitted to everyone on this forum that, all along, he was 'Me'?
I am quoting it because confirms almost everything I've said about the Havern/Bennett swamp: ignorance; unwillingness or inability to look for the facts; instinctive aggression as a response; disloyalty to their own forum posters and comical, indeed absurd, stupidity.
First we have the weasel words "has Blacksmith just admitted?" an evasion of what s/he has just posted worthy of the McCanns. Let's go through the rest, shall we? First the instinctive Haverns belief that others are as incapable of telling the truth as they are and that I am likely to be lying. Then the complete disregard for one of the site's own posters: no awareness at all that if the poster is wrong the poster "Me" has been embarrassed and traduced without a scrap of evidence. No change there then. Other posters should note that the site is like Scientology: once you're out, even only a few weeks ago, you're finished and your feelings, like "Me"'s are ignored. Bad luck "Me" – but what on earth were you doing in the swamp in the first place?
"Ignorance and unwillingness to look for the facts before dumping thoughts on the site." We've got that in spades: this character hasn't checked with the so-called owner, Havern, Me, or the site's own records. When Your Leader made the charge against "Me" himself before he was banned he sighed and told the Leader that the moderators knew his real name. Forgotten that, have you? The "comical stupidity" speaks for itself.
For the record, you dimmo, I joined Havern's under the name Blacksmith. I did so years ago at the time of the then most recent PR disaster – the battle between Butler and your Leader. And a very unpleasant experience it was too, since Havern had the idea of running the site unmoderated and it was like entering a sackful of snakes. Despite the lack of moderation Havern quickly banned me herself: she, or Mr Bennett, didn't like me.
I need hardly add that I know nothing about Me, other than what I read on the swamp.
And you really think I need to big myself up under someone else's name? You poor creature.
http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/
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I need hardly add that I know nothing about Me, other than what I read on the swamp.
Interesting sense of humour there.
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The End Is Nigh wrote:Weird.
LSD is so passé.
He's someone who travels around the net from forum to forum getting kicked in the ass for his arrogance and has ended up stewing in his own bitter swamp of resentment there.
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He's really very bitter isn't he.
Maybe needs to go have a few drinks with his mate mccalpine ?
Maybe needs to go have a few drinks with his mate mccalpine ?
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He's prob mr Edwards.....
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I think we established yesterday, in the "I've been kicked off CMOMM" Thread, that the two are not the same.
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The End Is Nigh wrote:I think we established yesterday, in the "I've been kicked off CMOMM" Thread, that the two are not the same.
Suggestions but how can it be established?
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tbh -- cant think why all this interforum shites happening -- looked somewhere else yesterday too and it was the same -- we all want the same thing justice for madeleine -- i usually skip over the dick waving stuff
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Blacksmith says he was registered on the JH forum in that name but the membership list does not confirm this.
Personally I don't think he is the same person as anyone who has posted recently but of course there's no way to be sure when dealing with people on the Internet.
Personally I don't think he is the same person as anyone who has posted recently but of course there's no way to be sure when dealing with people on the Internet.
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