Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
+8
bill516
dazedandconfused
pennylane
margaret
matthew
jinvta
Loopdaloop
Carolina
12 posters
Page 1 of 2
Page 1 of 2 • 1, 2
Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
ARE WE BEING DOUBLE-HELIXED?
Last Summer Metropolitan Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe commented publicly upon the status of Scotland Yard's costly, on-going review of the original Madeleine McCann investigation thus: "There will be a point at which we and the Government will want to make a decision about what the likely outcome is."
Not, you will notice, what the likely outcome might be, but what it is. And what it is will, ipso facto, wear a political complexion, otherwise the Government need not, indeed should not, be involved in the decision making process at all.
In this context, recent reports of DNA being sent from New Zealand in order simply to verify that the donor is not Madeleine McCann might be interpreted as reflecting, if not a hint of desperation, a long-term strategy; the same strategy in fact that would be embodied in the Portuguese being encouraged to pursue the 190 odd 'lines of inquiry' so far thrown up by the review.
And what is that?
Well one can't fail to be intrigued by archaeology of serious historical significance – Howard Carter and Tutankhamun, Philippa Langley and Richard III, and so on. Burials and cover ups galore! Imagine though, in the latter case, what might conceivably have ensued had the indefatigable Ms Langley, an ardent ricardian, not been prepared to face up to the newly excavated evidence before her. I refer specifically to the revelation of a distorted skeleton very early in the dig. Might she not have felt just a little tempted to say, 'leave it for now. Let's wait until more of the trench has been exposed, in case we find a straight one.' (skeleton that is).
Perhaps you can already see where this is going, but just in case, let us remind ourselves of Dr Gerry McCann's self-confessed enthusiasm for the 'rule out method' of medical diagnosis. It is of course a perfectly sensible procedural strategy; one which goes hand in glove with a limited number of ailments allied to a limited number of symptoms. It does not take forever to arrive at the correct diagnosis. If it did the patient would be more likely to die in hospital than emerge cured. Now, without repeating others' allegations, or inappropriately citing indices as evidence, it is still rather more than a reasonable assumption that ruling out Maddie claimants would be an open-ended, i.e. never ending process.
Are the Metropolitan Police being scrupulously thorough therefore, leaving no stone unturned? Or is this latest 'requirement' of a DNA sample potentially the first of many? If so, then despite their apparent rigor in ruling out cases of mistaken identity, it may just be the case that they are applying the right methodology to the wrong questions, setting aside the questions they should be asking, but would rather not (or dare not, perhaps), in favour of more politically correct propositions.
It comes down to this: If her very existence is a given, then 'will the real Madeleine McCann please stand up?' becomes a game that will run and run. Otherwise Scotland Yard should be asking questions of a completely different nature and applying the 'rule out method' to parties other than unsuspecting holiday makers in Ibiza or residents of the distant antipodes. Everyone has a double somewhere. Very young children have them in spades (and Madeleine is still only ten, possibly).
It's time therefore for Scotland Yard, the government, the press and the wider public to face up to the fact that the backbone of the Madeleine McCann investigation is crooked.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html
Last Summer Metropolitan Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe commented publicly upon the status of Scotland Yard's costly, on-going review of the original Madeleine McCann investigation thus: "There will be a point at which we and the Government will want to make a decision about what the likely outcome is."
Not, you will notice, what the likely outcome might be, but what it is. And what it is will, ipso facto, wear a political complexion, otherwise the Government need not, indeed should not, be involved in the decision making process at all.
In this context, recent reports of DNA being sent from New Zealand in order simply to verify that the donor is not Madeleine McCann might be interpreted as reflecting, if not a hint of desperation, a long-term strategy; the same strategy in fact that would be embodied in the Portuguese being encouraged to pursue the 190 odd 'lines of inquiry' so far thrown up by the review.
And what is that?
Well one can't fail to be intrigued by archaeology of serious historical significance – Howard Carter and Tutankhamun, Philippa Langley and Richard III, and so on. Burials and cover ups galore! Imagine though, in the latter case, what might conceivably have ensued had the indefatigable Ms Langley, an ardent ricardian, not been prepared to face up to the newly excavated evidence before her. I refer specifically to the revelation of a distorted skeleton very early in the dig. Might she not have felt just a little tempted to say, 'leave it for now. Let's wait until more of the trench has been exposed, in case we find a straight one.' (skeleton that is).
Perhaps you can already see where this is going, but just in case, let us remind ourselves of Dr Gerry McCann's self-confessed enthusiasm for the 'rule out method' of medical diagnosis. It is of course a perfectly sensible procedural strategy; one which goes hand in glove with a limited number of ailments allied to a limited number of symptoms. It does not take forever to arrive at the correct diagnosis. If it did the patient would be more likely to die in hospital than emerge cured. Now, without repeating others' allegations, or inappropriately citing indices as evidence, it is still rather more than a reasonable assumption that ruling out Maddie claimants would be an open-ended, i.e. never ending process.
Are the Metropolitan Police being scrupulously thorough therefore, leaving no stone unturned? Or is this latest 'requirement' of a DNA sample potentially the first of many? If so, then despite their apparent rigor in ruling out cases of mistaken identity, it may just be the case that they are applying the right methodology to the wrong questions, setting aside the questions they should be asking, but would rather not (or dare not, perhaps), in favour of more politically correct propositions.
It comes down to this: If her very existence is a given, then 'will the real Madeleine McCann please stand up?' becomes a game that will run and run. Otherwise Scotland Yard should be asking questions of a completely different nature and applying the 'rule out method' to parties other than unsuspecting holiday makers in Ibiza or residents of the distant antipodes. Everyone has a double somewhere. Very young children have them in spades (and Madeleine is still only ten, possibly).
It's time therefore for Scotland Yard, the government, the press and the wider public to face up to the fact that the backbone of the Madeleine McCann investigation is crooked.
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html
matthew- Golden Poster
-
Number of posts : 967
Age : 52
Location : holywell
Warning :
Registration date : 2011-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
In other News, there's also a brand new Blacksmith effort, but I really can't be bothered to link it!
Guest- Guest
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
The End Is Nigh wrote:In other News, there's also a brand new Blacksmith effort, but I really can't be bothered to link it!
WHY?
Carolina- Golden Poster
-
Number of posts : 874
Age : 78
Location : Algarve, Portugal
Warning :
Registration date : 2009-08-24
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
I agree entirely with Dr Martin Roberts perspective, its also the sherlock holmes approach! Eliminate the impossible!
I also agree with TEIN, i can no longer be bothered to read things from the blacksmith team as the quality is so inconsistent. Im also convinced one of them is a sex offender considering their posts a while back so refuse to give them a page hit.
I also agree with TEIN, i can no longer be bothered to read things from the blacksmith team as the quality is so inconsistent. Im also convinced one of them is a sex offender considering their posts a while back so refuse to give them a page hit.
Loopdaloop- Golden Poster
- Number of posts : 815
Warning :
Registration date : 2010-02-11
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
Carolina wrote:The End Is Nigh wrote:In other News, there's also a brand new Blacksmith effort, but I really can't be bothered to link it!
WHY?
Loopdaloop summed it up nicely. Very difficult to get value any more.
And it was a prompt to Matthew who kindly brings us most of the Blacksmiths as well as these Dr.Roberts'
Guest- Guest
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
It's time therefore for Scotland Yard, the government, the press and the wider public to face up to the fact that the backbone of the Madeleine McCann investigation is crooked.
Indeed!
Indeed!
pennylane- Platinum Poster
- Number of posts : 5353
Warning :
Registration date : 2010-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
I rather think all those "players" mentioned are very much aware of what's what.
Pleasant surprises to come fairly soon.
Pleasant surprises to come fairly soon.
Guest- Guest
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
The End Is Nigh wrote:Carolina wrote:The End Is Nigh wrote:In other News, there's also a brand new Blacksmith effort, but I really can't be bothered to link it!
WHY?
Loopdaloop summed it up nicely. Very difficult to get value any more.
And it was a prompt to Matthew who kindly brings us most of the Blacksmiths as well as these Dr.Roberts'
A prompt? you want me to post it?
matthew- Golden Poster
-
Number of posts : 967
Age : 52
Location : holywell
Warning :
Registration date : 2011-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
................ You might think that: I couldn't possibly say
Guest- Guest
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
"McCann's are toast"...a classic...whichever one of them wrote that is alright in my book
matthew- Golden Poster
-
Number of posts : 967
Age : 52
Location : holywell
Warning :
Registration date : 2011-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
pennylane wrote:It's time therefore for Scotland Yard, the government, the press and the wider public to face up to the fact that the backbone of the Madeleine McCann investigation is crooked.
Indeed!
I always felt that Scotland Yard should have insisted on lie detector tests from every single one of the Tapas Nine before any other taxpayer dollars were wasted on the investigation. The parents and their friends must first be ruled out, as it was members of their group who were last to see Madeleine. So much money has been wasted, and it all could have been avoided had SY insisted on lie detector tests before any further money was spent. Just think how bad they would have looked if they had refused!
It is still not too late. SY do the right thing. Request those lie detectors and insist upon them being carried out before any more money is squandered away.
jinvta- Platinum Poster
- Number of posts : 1065
Warning :
Registration date : 2010-01-18
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
The End Is Nigh wrote:I rather think all those "players" mentioned are very much aware of what's what.
Pleasant surprises to come fairly soon.
I do hope you're spot on TEIN xx
Failing something emerging out of left field that the Home Officer can't put another half baked lid on, I'm braced for Operation Grange to conclude this 'review' with one of the most corrupt and bent conclusions ever witnessed. Sorry!
pennylane- Platinum Poster
- Number of posts : 5353
Warning :
Registration date : 2010-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
matthew wrote:The End Is Nigh wrote:Carolina wrote:The End Is Nigh wrote:In other News, there's also a brand new Blacksmith effort, but I really can't be bothered to link it!
WHY?
Loopdaloop summed it up nicely. Very difficult to get value any more.
And it was a prompt to Matthew who kindly brings us most of the Blacksmiths as well as these Dr.Roberts'
A prompt? you want me to post it?
If you could, l can't find it!
margaret- Platinum Poster
-
Number of posts : 4406
Warning :
Registration date : 2009-08-25
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
Sorry Margaret,I dont think there is one
matthew- Golden Poster
-
Number of posts : 967
Age : 52
Location : holywell
Warning :
Registration date : 2011-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
Then you are going to be especially pleased ..................... Gobsmacked is, I believe, the most apt description.
Guest- Guest
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
matthew wrote: Sorry Margaret,I dont think there is one
Oh
margaret- Platinum Poster
-
Number of posts : 4406
Warning :
Registration date : 2009-08-25
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
jinvta wrote:pennylane wrote:It's time therefore for Scotland Yard, the government, the press and the wider public to face up to the fact that the backbone of the Madeleine McCann investigation is crooked.
Indeed!
I always felt that Scotland Yard should have insisted on lie detector tests from every single one of the Tapas Nine before any other taxpayer dollars were wasted on the investigation. The parents and their friends must first be ruled out, as it was members of their group who were last to see Madeleine. So much money has been wasted, and it all could have been avoided had SY insisted on lie detector tests before any further money was spent. Just think how bad they would have looked if they had refused!
It is still not too late. SY do the right thing. Request those lie detectors and insist upon them being carried out before any more money is squandered away.
Good grief, questioning the parents and friends, and verifying their ever-changing version of events. SY aren't touching that bag of worms with a barge poll!
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hewlett ends up as the patsy.... just as many of us feared.
pennylane- Platinum Poster
- Number of posts : 5353
Warning :
Registration date : 2010-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
No way will he be the patsy ......people will still be thinking...did he...or didn't he....it can't be proven so it won't happen.
The only way he would be made a patsy is if there was 100% certainty he did it...and there isn't....
They will have to find a better patsy ...one that people will believe apart from the pros..
The only way he would be made a patsy is if there was 100% certainty he did it...and there isn't....
They will have to find a better patsy ...one that people will believe apart from the pros..
kitti- Platinum Poster
-
Number of posts : 13400
Age : 114
Location : London
Warning :
Registration date : 2009-06-21
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
The End Is Nigh wrote:Then you are going to be especially pleased ..................... Gobsmacked is, I believe, the most apt description.
I hope I am well and truly gobsmacked, TEIN.
pennylane- Platinum Poster
- Number of posts : 5353
Warning :
Registration date : 2010-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
kitti wrote:No way will he be the patsy ......people will still be thinking...did he...or didn't he....it can't be proven so it won't happen.
The only way he would be made a patsy is if there was 100% certainty he did it...and there isn't....
They will have to find a better patsy ...one that people will believe apart from the pros..
Yeh, maybe you're right kitti.
Any Russian paedophiles recently deceased then?
pennylane- Platinum Poster
- Number of posts : 5353
Warning :
Registration date : 2010-03-10
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
pennylane wrote:The End Is Nigh wrote:I rather think all those "players" mentioned are very much aware of what's what.
Pleasant surprises to come fairly soon.
I do hope you're spot on TEIN xx
Failing something emerging out of left field that the Home Officer can't put another half baked lid on, I'm braced for Operation Grange to conclude this 'review' with one of the most corrupt and bent conclusions ever witnessed. Sorry!
I'll be sorry with you as that's what I think pennylane.
dazedandconfused- Platinum Poster
- Number of posts : 2101
Warning :
Registration date : 2009-08-20
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
pennylane wrote:The End Is Nigh wrote:I rather think all those "players" mentioned are very much aware of what's what.
Pleasant surprises to come fairly soon.
I do hope you're spot on TEIN xx
Failing something emerging out of left field that the Home Officer can't put another half baked lid on, I'm braced for Operation Grange to conclude this 'review' with one of the most corrupt and bent conclusions ever witnessed. Sorry!
I agree with you pennylane. It's been cover up and corruption from day one. The Mccanns have called the shots like no-one else in history ever has, at least as far as I know. It is unbelieveable that they have never been questioned about their many conflicting stories and changes to their stories. Unbelieveable that they have been feted as heros when they were quite simply neglectful parents who left 3 small children alone night after night. I wouldn't hold my breath hoping the Mccanns and their friends ever face any kind of justice.
mara thon- Platinum Poster
- Number of posts : 7076
Warning :
Registration date : 2009-08-21
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
I think we ought to go back to the beginning and ask why Tony Blair and Gordon Brown went out of their way to help the McCanns??? I don't think in living memory that any couple has ever received such support from Day 1. Even when the Ambassador to Portugal , John Buck, was sent to PDL by Tony Blair and voiced his concern about the Tapas 9 statements the support was still there, Clarence was not recalled , LP were still in Portugal etc. It surely could not be just because the McCanns were Doctors.
Panda- Platinum Poster
-
Number of posts : 30555
Age : 67
Location : Wales
Warning :
Registration date : 2010-03-27
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
I have often wondered whether the SY review was to look for evidence of the 'mystery person' that has often been alluded to, and the basis for the comment " we know more than we are saying" or something like that. If the SY review has found no evidence of the 'mystery person' in the area then any hold you thought you had will have vanished quicker than the hole you leave in a bucket of water. No need for any outside influence anymore, or in otherwords your on your own, you made this mess clear it up yourselves but we (whoever they were) are not going to mess with the process.
Bill
Bill
bill516- Rookie
- Number of posts : 80
Warning :
Registration date : 2011-02-28
Re: Dr Martin Roberts 18 February 2013
Panda, I certainly don't think there's ever been another case like this where people with no obvious connection to government ministers have been pampered and protected by them.
It would be interesting to hear the opinions of their devoted supporters - of whom there are the odd (very odd!) one or two here - as to why they think this might be.
It would be interesting to hear the opinions of their devoted supporters - of whom there are the odd (very odd!) one or two here - as to why they think this might be.
Guest- Guest
Page 1 of 2 • 1, 2
Similar topics
» Dr Martin Roberts 27 January 2013
» IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER by Dr Martin Roberts-15/03/2013
» Dr.Martin Roberts: "Anyone for tennis?" mccannfiles.13/10/2013
» The "get out" clause-Dr Martin Roberts 4/12/2013 the mccannfiles
» Dr Martin Roberts : "You have been framed" 11/10/2013 mccannfiles
» IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER by Dr Martin Roberts-15/03/2013
» Dr.Martin Roberts: "Anyone for tennis?" mccannfiles.13/10/2013
» The "get out" clause-Dr Martin Roberts 4/12/2013 the mccannfiles
» Dr Martin Roberts : "You have been framed" 11/10/2013 mccannfiles
Page 1 of 2
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum