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Hundreds would have died in U.K. in attack plotted by Islamic fanatics
Hundreds would have died in attack plotted by Islamic fanatics
It would have been the most devastating terrorist attack on British soil
leaving hundreds dead – and by al-Qaeda inspired but “home-grown” Islamic
fanatics.
From left; Irfan Naseer, Irfan
Khalid and Ashik Ali, who were found guilty on Thursday of planning a string of
bombings Photo: AFP PHOTO / WEST MIDLANDS
POLICE
By Tom Whitehead, Security
Editor
2:34PM GMT 21 Feb 2013
Up to eight suicide bombers carrying backpacks rammed with explosives and
armed with guns were to carry out a horrifying blend of the 7/7 and Mumbai
atrocities.
The jihadi gang planned to walk in to crowded, public places shooting
indiscriminately before simultaneously detonating their terrible homemade
payloads killing hundreds on their wake.
Although no firm target was settled on, the 2012 Olympics may have been one
along with soldiers based in this country.
They even boasted about "hitting" David Cameron, his friends and other non –
believers in the "land of Satan".
The plot was the most significant since the plans to blow up transatlantic
aeroplanes with liquid bombs in 2006 and is likely to have led to the largest
loss of life from a terror attack on UK shores.
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The ringleader, Irfan Naseer, 31, even criticised the 7/7 suicide bombers,
who left 52 innocent people dead, for not doing "enough damage".
It also marked a sea change in the influence of al-Qaeda and the ever growing
threat of self-motivated killers.
Unlike previous plots, this gang was not told what to do by al-Qaeda and the
terror group only provided the training and justification for it.
In a deeply worrying development for the police and intelligence services,
the planned attack was borne from the British extremists' desire to kill their
fellow citizens and they went in search of al-Qaeda.
Naseer was secretly recorded at one stage talking of: "Seven or eight in
different places with timers on at the same time, boom boom boom." and that it
will be revenge for the Danish cartoons mocking the prophet Mohammed.
His deputy, Irfan Khalid, 27, talked about "revenge for everything, another
9/11" and "It's the four suicide bombers driving around ready to take on
England."
Khalid said: "This is going to shake them all, the kufar, that go to the pub
and that (in mocking English accent) 'they've hit us in our own country, my god
they hit us'".
He described turning a Birmingham road in to a “little war zone”.
Brian Altman QC, prosecuting, told the court: "Police successfully disrupted
a plan to commit an act or acts of terrorism on a scale potentially greater than
the London bombings in July 2005, had it been allowed to run its course.
"Although the finer details had not been worked out and agreed on, the
defendants were preparing to detonate up to eight rucksack bombs on a suicide
attack, and/or detonate bombs on targets in crowded areas to cause mass death
and casualties.”
He said it would have led to "maximum death and destruction" and “carnage in
the name of Allah".
The driving force behind the plot was the "two Irfans" – Naseer, dubbed
"chubba'" or "big Irfan" because of his size, and his Deputy Khalid, or "little
Irfan".
Naseer, a pharmacy graduate, was the brains and came up with the idea of
extracting ammonium nitrate from dozens of sports injury cold packs to develop
the main charge for an explosive.
Although the risk from cold pack ingredients was known to the police and
security services, this was the first time it was used as part of a terror plot
in the UK.
The Irfans had known each other since 2006 and came from the same Sparkhill
area of Birmingham.
Unbeknown to the police or intelligence services, the pair first travelled
out to Pakistan in March 2009 and during an eight month stay underwent eight
days of terrorism training.
In December 2010, they returned to Pakistan for what became a far more
significant trip. After three months in Karachi they established al-Qaeda
connections and found their way to the key international arm of the terror group
in the ungoverned Miram Shah in north Waziristan.
With relative ease and in just a matter of months, they had found their way
to the "heart of the beast", as one security source described it.
They spent up to three months there including 40 days of intensive terror
training learning how to make homemade bombs, use firearms and develop poisons.
Later they boasted to their co-conspirators how they had to dodge drone
attacks while testing bombs in the countryside.
While there, the pair made martyrdom videos and left them there for al-Qaeda
to release on their deaths.
The videos were never recovered but once home Naseer told the others some of
what he said.
"You people think that by making these cartoons of the prophet, peace be upon
him, you are going to defame him. No you'll never achieve this.
"The only thing you will achieve is suicide bombers on your streets spilling
so much blood that you will remember, you will have nightmares for the rest of
your lives."
What the Irfans did not know was that MI5 had picked up on them before their
second trip to Pakistan and, working with the West Midlands counter-terrorism
unit, were ready to watch their every move on their return in June 2011.
Once back, they began recruiting others to their cause and turned their
attention to raising money to fund their plot.
During July and August, and under the cover of Ramadan, they carried out
street collections in Birmingham claiming to be raising money for Muslim Aid.
They had a legitimate licence for one day's fundraising for the charity, but
they continued collecting, raising in the end up to £20,000, of which just
£1,500 was handed over to the charity.
At one stage, one of them even joked to a Muslim Aid worker how he is going
to have to bank the collection because he is "stealing so much money".
Joining in the collections were Ashik Ali, 27, Rahin Ahmed and Mujahid
Hussain.
Ahmed, 28, was the chief fundraiser and it was he who joked with Muslim Aid,
with whom he had strong connections.
He was given responsibility for handling the money and tasked with turning it
into a much larger pot by investing it.
The money was to pay to send other would-be suicide bombers to Pakistan for
training and to buy the necessary guns and equipment to carry out the attack.
The gang also planned to open a religious shop to act as a "beautiful cover"
for their activities. It would sell Muslim literature at the front and double as
a bomb factory at the rear.
But the move had to be abandoned when the gang hit their first major
obstacle.
Ahmed was not as effective in the investment world as he made out. He
invested some £12,000 in the foreign exchange markets and over the space of two
weeks lost £9,000 because of "unwise and incompetent commodities trading", the
jury heard.
At one stage he went to make a cup of tea and in the five minutes he was out
the room, he lost £3,000.
Ahmed tried to blame the turmoil with the euro and the collapse on the price
of gold for his failures but he was ostracised by the group.
He previously pleaded guilty to encouraging acts of terrorism, collecting
money for terrorism and assisting others to travel to Pakistan for terror
training.
After the loss of funds, the group thought about taking out high interest
payday loans because they would not be around to have to pay them back.
Instead, Ashik Ali's council flat at 23 White Street became the gang’s safe
house and bomb factory and was fitted with blackout curtains.
The police and MI5 had listening devices in the property as well as in
Naseer's VW Passat and Ahmed's Honda Civic.
Ashik Ali was already earmarked as a would-be suicide bomber, along with the
two Irfans, and now others were sent to Pakistan for training.
Ishaaq Hussain, 20, Shahid Khan, 20, Naweed Ali, 24, and Khobaib Hussain, 20,
went but they had not told their families where they were going.
Their trip ended almost as soon as it began after family members discovered
what was happening when one of them phoned home.
They contacted relatives in Pakistan who intervened and, as a result, the
four spent just one day at the terror camp and received no training.
All four have pleaded guilty to travelling to Pakistan for terror training.
Despite another set back, the Irfans and Ashik Ali proceeded as planned and
turned their attentions to developing a bomb at their base in White Street.
They bought a sports cold pack from which they planned to extract ammonium
nitrate and develop a bomb and talked about drilling in to the wall to mask the
noise when they came to test it.
Naseer wrote the key ingredients and formula for making the device on a piece
of paper.
Fortunately for the police, Ashik Ali was told to destroy the note but only
managed to partially burn it and the discarded remains were found in a bin when
the house was raided.
It contained words such as ammonium nitrate, powder and bulb, nail polish
remover, sulphuric acid, xplosives and detonator, syringe, if not pure then
heat, get out of aluminium, hydrogen peroxide and clean wounds.
Police also found chemistry books and evidence of explosives research on the
internet.
What the group had not realised prior to their arrest was that they had
bought the wrong cold pack and it did not contain ammonium nitrate but rather a
different chemical known as urea.
However, police believe if left any longer they would have realised and
bought the right packs.
Lectures from al-Qaeda’s now dead Yemen chief Anwar al-Awlaki. were found on
a laptop and there was a copy of 7/7 bomber Siddique Khan's martyrdom video
At one stage they even discussed mixing poisons in hand cream and smearing it
on car and door handles to kill a "thousand" people but there is no evidence of
them pursuing that.
On another occasion Khalid talked about putting blades on the front of a car
and driving it in to a crowd – known in an al-Qaeda magazine as the “ultimate
mowing machine”.
They also joked about driving around as suicide bombers “ready to take on
England” and were heard in one car pretending to be Formula One commentators and
racing against Jenson Button and Nigel Mansell.
In another recording, when some of the cell were watching footage of David
Cameron, Khalid: "You think about it, you're hitting his friends, in their home,
his friends innit, these were Cameron and everyone they're his friends."
He added: "We're doing it in the land of the Shaytan [Satan] in the belly's
whale [sic]. This is going to shake them all, all the Kaffir [non – believers]
that go to the pub and that."
And in a direct refence to Mr Cameron he was then heard saying: "Who are you
telling us, you uncircumcised woman?".
Naseer believed non-believers deserved to be attacked because they “have sex
like donkeys”, take part in orgies and take drugs.
He said the whole world was **** and people deserved to be terrorised.
In one recording, Ali alluded to being a suicide bomber and even joked about
him and his co-defendants being the “Three Lions” in reference to the film Four
Lions, about hapless would – be suicide bombers.
By now Mujahid Hussian, 21, and two other men, who cannot be named for legal
reasons, were being actively encouraged to be suicide bombers.
Hussain has pleaded guilty to a charge of fundraising and failing to inform
the authorities.
The other two will stand trial at a later date.
By mid-September, police and MI5 concluded the gang had entered the practical
stage of trying to develop bombs and were fully intent on carry out their
attacks so they moved in.
After his arrest, Ali provided the most frank admissions of a would-be
suicide bomber that the police have known.
He said his job was to wear “to put on a jacket (suicide vest) and have a
gun” to “shoot people”.
He said “soldiers” was one possible idea but later back tracked claiming he
had made that up and he never intended to go through with any attack.
In court, the Irfans created an elaborate defence claiming they were
pretending to be al-Qaeda linked and terrorist plotters to protect themselves.
They said rival gangs and others in the community thought they were members
of the Pakistani intelligence services and needed to create an image to ward
them off.
It would have been the most devastating terrorist attack on British soil
leaving hundreds dead – and by al-Qaeda inspired but “home-grown” Islamic
fanatics.
From left; Irfan Naseer, Irfan
Khalid and Ashik Ali, who were found guilty on Thursday of planning a string of
bombings Photo: AFP PHOTO / WEST MIDLANDS
POLICE
By Tom Whitehead, Security
Editor
2:34PM GMT 21 Feb 2013
Up to eight suicide bombers carrying backpacks rammed with explosives and
armed with guns were to carry out a horrifying blend of the 7/7 and Mumbai
atrocities.
The jihadi gang planned to walk in to crowded, public places shooting
indiscriminately before simultaneously detonating their terrible homemade
payloads killing hundreds on their wake.
Although no firm target was settled on, the 2012 Olympics may have been one
along with soldiers based in this country.
They even boasted about "hitting" David Cameron, his friends and other non –
believers in the "land of Satan".
The plot was the most significant since the plans to blow up transatlantic
aeroplanes with liquid bombs in 2006 and is likely to have led to the largest
loss of life from a terror attack on UK shores.
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The ringleader, Irfan Naseer, 31, even criticised the 7/7 suicide bombers,
who left 52 innocent people dead, for not doing "enough damage".
It also marked a sea change in the influence of al-Qaeda and the ever growing
threat of self-motivated killers.
Unlike previous plots, this gang was not told what to do by al-Qaeda and the
terror group only provided the training and justification for it.
In a deeply worrying development for the police and intelligence services,
the planned attack was borne from the British extremists' desire to kill their
fellow citizens and they went in search of al-Qaeda.
Naseer was secretly recorded at one stage talking of: "Seven or eight in
different places with timers on at the same time, boom boom boom." and that it
will be revenge for the Danish cartoons mocking the prophet Mohammed.
His deputy, Irfan Khalid, 27, talked about "revenge for everything, another
9/11" and "It's the four suicide bombers driving around ready to take on
England."
Khalid said: "This is going to shake them all, the kufar, that go to the pub
and that (in mocking English accent) 'they've hit us in our own country, my god
they hit us'".
He described turning a Birmingham road in to a “little war zone”.
Brian Altman QC, prosecuting, told the court: "Police successfully disrupted
a plan to commit an act or acts of terrorism on a scale potentially greater than
the London bombings in July 2005, had it been allowed to run its course.
"Although the finer details had not been worked out and agreed on, the
defendants were preparing to detonate up to eight rucksack bombs on a suicide
attack, and/or detonate bombs on targets in crowded areas to cause mass death
and casualties.”
He said it would have led to "maximum death and destruction" and “carnage in
the name of Allah".
The driving force behind the plot was the "two Irfans" – Naseer, dubbed
"chubba'" or "big Irfan" because of his size, and his Deputy Khalid, or "little
Irfan".
Naseer, a pharmacy graduate, was the brains and came up with the idea of
extracting ammonium nitrate from dozens of sports injury cold packs to develop
the main charge for an explosive.
Although the risk from cold pack ingredients was known to the police and
security services, this was the first time it was used as part of a terror plot
in the UK.
The Irfans had known each other since 2006 and came from the same Sparkhill
area of Birmingham.
Unbeknown to the police or intelligence services, the pair first travelled
out to Pakistan in March 2009 and during an eight month stay underwent eight
days of terrorism training.
In December 2010, they returned to Pakistan for what became a far more
significant trip. After three months in Karachi they established al-Qaeda
connections and found their way to the key international arm of the terror group
in the ungoverned Miram Shah in north Waziristan.
With relative ease and in just a matter of months, they had found their way
to the "heart of the beast", as one security source described it.
They spent up to three months there including 40 days of intensive terror
training learning how to make homemade bombs, use firearms and develop poisons.
Later they boasted to their co-conspirators how they had to dodge drone
attacks while testing bombs in the countryside.
While there, the pair made martyrdom videos and left them there for al-Qaeda
to release on their deaths.
The videos were never recovered but once home Naseer told the others some of
what he said.
"You people think that by making these cartoons of the prophet, peace be upon
him, you are going to defame him. No you'll never achieve this.
"The only thing you will achieve is suicide bombers on your streets spilling
so much blood that you will remember, you will have nightmares for the rest of
your lives."
What the Irfans did not know was that MI5 had picked up on them before their
second trip to Pakistan and, working with the West Midlands counter-terrorism
unit, were ready to watch their every move on their return in June 2011.
Once back, they began recruiting others to their cause and turned their
attention to raising money to fund their plot.
During July and August, and under the cover of Ramadan, they carried out
street collections in Birmingham claiming to be raising money for Muslim Aid.
They had a legitimate licence for one day's fundraising for the charity, but
they continued collecting, raising in the end up to £20,000, of which just
£1,500 was handed over to the charity.
At one stage, one of them even joked to a Muslim Aid worker how he is going
to have to bank the collection because he is "stealing so much money".
Joining in the collections were Ashik Ali, 27, Rahin Ahmed and Mujahid
Hussain.
Ahmed, 28, was the chief fundraiser and it was he who joked with Muslim Aid,
with whom he had strong connections.
He was given responsibility for handling the money and tasked with turning it
into a much larger pot by investing it.
The money was to pay to send other would-be suicide bombers to Pakistan for
training and to buy the necessary guns and equipment to carry out the attack.
The gang also planned to open a religious shop to act as a "beautiful cover"
for their activities. It would sell Muslim literature at the front and double as
a bomb factory at the rear.
But the move had to be abandoned when the gang hit their first major
obstacle.
Ahmed was not as effective in the investment world as he made out. He
invested some £12,000 in the foreign exchange markets and over the space of two
weeks lost £9,000 because of "unwise and incompetent commodities trading", the
jury heard.
At one stage he went to make a cup of tea and in the five minutes he was out
the room, he lost £3,000.
Ahmed tried to blame the turmoil with the euro and the collapse on the price
of gold for his failures but he was ostracised by the group.
He previously pleaded guilty to encouraging acts of terrorism, collecting
money for terrorism and assisting others to travel to Pakistan for terror
training.
After the loss of funds, the group thought about taking out high interest
payday loans because they would not be around to have to pay them back.
Instead, Ashik Ali's council flat at 23 White Street became the gang’s safe
house and bomb factory and was fitted with blackout curtains.
The police and MI5 had listening devices in the property as well as in
Naseer's VW Passat and Ahmed's Honda Civic.
Ashik Ali was already earmarked as a would-be suicide bomber, along with the
two Irfans, and now others were sent to Pakistan for training.
Ishaaq Hussain, 20, Shahid Khan, 20, Naweed Ali, 24, and Khobaib Hussain, 20,
went but they had not told their families where they were going.
Their trip ended almost as soon as it began after family members discovered
what was happening when one of them phoned home.
They contacted relatives in Pakistan who intervened and, as a result, the
four spent just one day at the terror camp and received no training.
All four have pleaded guilty to travelling to Pakistan for terror training.
Despite another set back, the Irfans and Ashik Ali proceeded as planned and
turned their attentions to developing a bomb at their base in White Street.
They bought a sports cold pack from which they planned to extract ammonium
nitrate and develop a bomb and talked about drilling in to the wall to mask the
noise when they came to test it.
Naseer wrote the key ingredients and formula for making the device on a piece
of paper.
Fortunately for the police, Ashik Ali was told to destroy the note but only
managed to partially burn it and the discarded remains were found in a bin when
the house was raided.
It contained words such as ammonium nitrate, powder and bulb, nail polish
remover, sulphuric acid, xplosives and detonator, syringe, if not pure then
heat, get out of aluminium, hydrogen peroxide and clean wounds.
Police also found chemistry books and evidence of explosives research on the
internet.
What the group had not realised prior to their arrest was that they had
bought the wrong cold pack and it did not contain ammonium nitrate but rather a
different chemical known as urea.
However, police believe if left any longer they would have realised and
bought the right packs.
Lectures from al-Qaeda’s now dead Yemen chief Anwar al-Awlaki. were found on
a laptop and there was a copy of 7/7 bomber Siddique Khan's martyrdom video
At one stage they even discussed mixing poisons in hand cream and smearing it
on car and door handles to kill a "thousand" people but there is no evidence of
them pursuing that.
On another occasion Khalid talked about putting blades on the front of a car
and driving it in to a crowd – known in an al-Qaeda magazine as the “ultimate
mowing machine”.
They also joked about driving around as suicide bombers “ready to take on
England” and were heard in one car pretending to be Formula One commentators and
racing against Jenson Button and Nigel Mansell.
In another recording, when some of the cell were watching footage of David
Cameron, Khalid: "You think about it, you're hitting his friends, in their home,
his friends innit, these were Cameron and everyone they're his friends."
He added: "We're doing it in the land of the Shaytan [Satan] in the belly's
whale [sic]. This is going to shake them all, all the Kaffir [non – believers]
that go to the pub and that."
And in a direct refence to Mr Cameron he was then heard saying: "Who are you
telling us, you uncircumcised woman?".
Naseer believed non-believers deserved to be attacked because they “have sex
like donkeys”, take part in orgies and take drugs.
He said the whole world was **** and people deserved to be terrorised.
In one recording, Ali alluded to being a suicide bomber and even joked about
him and his co-defendants being the “Three Lions” in reference to the film Four
Lions, about hapless would – be suicide bombers.
By now Mujahid Hussian, 21, and two other men, who cannot be named for legal
reasons, were being actively encouraged to be suicide bombers.
Hussain has pleaded guilty to a charge of fundraising and failing to inform
the authorities.
The other two will stand trial at a later date.
By mid-September, police and MI5 concluded the gang had entered the practical
stage of trying to develop bombs and were fully intent on carry out their
attacks so they moved in.
After his arrest, Ali provided the most frank admissions of a would-be
suicide bomber that the police have known.
He said his job was to wear “to put on a jacket (suicide vest) and have a
gun” to “shoot people”.
He said “soldiers” was one possible idea but later back tracked claiming he
had made that up and he never intended to go through with any attack.
In court, the Irfans created an elaborate defence claiming they were
pretending to be al-Qaeda linked and terrorist plotters to protect themselves.
They said rival gangs and others in the community thought they were members
of the Pakistani intelligence services and needed to create an image to ward
them off.
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Bunch of utterly despicable pr*ts.
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A prime example of a need for a return of Capital Punishment.
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Fears of new generation of terrorists who found the 'heart of the beast' of
al-Qaeda
Britain faces a new generation of self-starting “Nike terrorists”, the
security services fear, amid alarm over the speed with which a gang of home
grown extremists were able to find and gain support for a 9/11-style plot from
the “heart of the beast” of al-Qaeda.
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Panda wrote:Finance
Fears of new generation of terrorists who found the 'heart of the beast' of
al-Qaeda
Britain faces a new generation of self-starting “Nike terrorists”, the
security services fear, amid alarm over the speed with which a gang of home
grown extremists were able to find and gain support for a 9/11-style plot from
the “heart of the beast” of al-Qaeda.
I've read an article in the paper edition of The Times this morning about the area of Birmingham the three men lived in, Sparkhill. There have been previous convictions for terrorist activity from that area, which is known as 'Little Kashmir.' The author states that if local people know about such activities they don't tell the police, who have been monitoring activity there for a number of years under the 'Prevent,' campaign. That campaign has cost hundreds of millions but has not received even one piece of useful information.
So what now? We have areas like this in our inner cities and gangs of Muslims grooming young girls for sex. It's time that our government faced up to the real problem of Islamic activity in the UK.
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They don't mind reaping the benefits off living in the UK...free NHS care , free doctors appointments and good living conditions but they want to blow the lot off us to pieces .
They should be made to walk on a piece off wasteland with their own rucksack strapped to their back .
We have a 'teaching place' not a mosque near us....what exactly can a place like this teach a bunch off men that they can't learn at home...that's what I want to know.
They should be made to walk on a piece off wasteland with their own rucksack strapped to their back .
We have a 'teaching place' not a mosque near us....what exactly can a place like this teach a bunch off men that they can't learn at home...that's what I want to know.
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Any Government, whatever their political persuasion, which will be seen to be doing something about the abuse of our immigration policy and putting a halt to our cities being turned into segmented cultural and religious ghettos would be on a real vote winner.AnnaEsse wrote:Panda wrote:Finance
Fears of new generation of terrorists who found the 'heart of the beast' of
al-Qaeda
Britain faces a new generation of self-starting “Nike terrorists”, the
security services fear, amid alarm over the speed with which a gang of home
grown extremists were able to find and gain support for a 9/11-style plot from
the “heart of the beast” of al-Qaeda.
I've read an article in the paper edition of The Times this morning about the area of Birmingham the three men lived in, Sparkhill. There have been previous convictions for terrorist activity from that area, which is known as 'Little Kashmir.' The author states that if local people know about such activities they don't tell the police, who have been monitoring activity there for a number of years under the 'Prevent,' campaign. That campaign has cost hundreds of millions but has not received even one piece of useful information.
So what now? We have areas like this in our inner cities and gangs of Muslims grooming young girls for sex. It's time that our government faced up to the real problem of Islamic activity in the UK.
It is a fact that non residents of these ghettos can be taking their safety in their own hands if they venture into 'immigrant territory.' A friend of mines son was severely beaten in Nottingham last year on a night out because he was 'on the wrong turf'. This is 21st century Britain where we should be safe when travelling our city streets. Our arrogant politicians, councillors and politically correct human right activists have created a multicultural nightmare which will erupt into civil disturbances.
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That's because they don't have to live among them malena, we have been very lucky since 7/7 and credit where it is due, the Police were on the case.The Border Agency has'nt a clue how many illegals are in the Country yet the Chancellor and Home Office are making Police redundant.!!!
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The Border Agency is employing 1st generation immigrants, Customs were found to be employing illegals to guard bonded warehouses and the police are now so thin on the ground as would be worthless in times of real unrest.Panda wrote:That's because they don't have to live among them malena, we have been very lucky since 7/7 and credit where it is due, the Police were on the case.The Border Agency has'nt a clue how many illegals are in the Country yet the Chancellor and Home Office are making Police redundant.!!!
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