Re: CPS Fly To Portgual - Evening Standard 21/6/13

Guest Fri 21 Jun - 20:48

He wouldn't have to go back to Portugal to see Miss Busty as she lives in the Bedford area!

If Lord and Lady Muck are back there, I hope that they will remember the words of their website - it's not too late to do the right thing.

comperedna Fri 21 Jun - 20:49

It's over two months now since Joana Morais... a very good commentator IMHO, put anything new on her site, so as far as the Portuguese end has it, nothing much may seem to be happening. Many more just as thoughtful people online are getting hopeful at the signs, and on some days so am I... but I remember the days of Coldwater when we thought the case was going to unravel... and it didn't. However... I can't believe more money still could be going into it from the UK, without some prospect of a genuine solution. I also can't believe the UK police disrespect their Portuguese opposite numbers. The result may not be the one most of us expect... but I cannot believe SY will go for a dead paedophile patsy... If it is not a genuine solution of some kind, which is at least half plausible, they would be well up for being disproved later on, and then, if it was willful disregard of evidence, they could even be properly blamed a la Hillsborough.

weissnicht Fri 21 Jun - 20:53

mara thon wrote:Well since I'm afraid I still think that for some reason the Mccanns are untouchable, despite the numerous story changes and downright lies they have told over the years, I'm guessing a suitable patsy will be found. I would like to think I'm wrong, but I won't hold my breath.

I agree, I think they know too much of high profile pedos... so long as they are not in jail, mccanns are free.

almostgothic Fri 21 Jun - 21:15

If they are back in Portugal it'll no doubt be a lawyer's meeting ...

Duarte - if it's the libel trial, or Alves - for ... ahem ... other matters.

Hey, maybe they're looking for a legal loophole to force Portugal to take back their primacy in the case.

*** ironic snigger *** CPS Fly To Portgual - Evening Standard 21/6/13 - Page 2 272645

CPS Fly To Portgual - Evening Standard 21/6/13 - Page 2 272645

Lillyofthevalley Fri 21 Jun - 21:35

chrissie wrote:
margaret wrote:http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/

Thanks margaret, I hope he's right!

"Our crime and lunacy correspondent adds: the whitewash is nearly complete. The two women, one of whom is known to live in a part of London where a Freemasons' temple stood only two hundred years ago, have probably been selected by the prime minister himself. In any case their mission is to put the final details into place in Operation Patsydeath"

Margaret, Imo this doesn't sound good from BS....

Karen Fri 21 Jun - 22:16

Front page - DAILY EXPRESS

http://news.sky.com/ CPS Fly To Portgual - Evening Standard 21/6/13 - Page 2 Express-1-329x437

**Lioned** Fri 21 Jun - 22:49

Well if it really is the CPS 'legal team' then the question is who are they building a case against ?

a). The dead peado

b). Murat

c). The mccanns

d). Any old faceless scruffy gypo

I'm off down to William Hills to put a fiver on Hewletts mate.

**margaret** Fri 21 Jun - 23:28

Lillyofthevalley wrote:
chrissie wrote:
margaret wrote:http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/

Thanks margaret, I hope he's right!

"Our crime and lunacy correspondent adds: the whitewash is nearly complete. The two women, one of whom is known to live in a part of London where a Freemasons' temple stood only two hundred years ago, have probably been selected by the prime minister himself. In any case their mission is to put the final details into place in Operation Patsydeath"

Margaret, Imo this doesn't sound good from BS....

I'm sure that paragraph wasn't there originally but l think he's taking the piss lily. Could be wrong though!

Karen Fri 21 Jun - 23:34

SteveT Fri 21 Jun - 23:39

That picture says it all Karen!

interested Fri 21 Jun - 23:53

Karen wrote:Front page - DAILY EXPRESS

http://news.sky.com/

"New Evidence" ???? Well, I like the sound of that.

jeanmonroe Sat 22 Jun - 0:14

McS will poop on JT/JW quicker than a blink of an eye!

KM 'ground work' on her solo trip in May.

Plea bargain?

interested Sat 22 Jun - 0:54

Article in the Guardian, "Madeleine McCann: UK prosecutors visit Portugal to discuss new leads" states the visit is a "significant development".

Loopdaloop Sat 22 Jun - 0:57

comperedna wrote:It's over two months now since Joana Morais... a very good commentator IMHO, put anything new on her site, so as far as the Portuguese end has it, nothing much may seem to be happening. Many more just as thoughtful people online are getting hopeful at the signs, and on some days so am I... but I remember the days of Coldwater when we thought the case was going to unravel... and it didn't. However... I can't believe more money still could be going into it from the UK, without some prospect of a genuine solution. I also can't believe the UK police disrespect their Portuguese opposite numbers. The result may not be the one most of us expect... but I cannot believe SY will go for a dead paedophile patsy... If it is not a genuine solution of some kind, which is at least half plausible, they would be well up for being disproved later on, and then, if it was willful disregard of evidence, they could even be properly blamed a la Hillsborough.

It might be argued that its quiet as something IS gojng on.
Joanne morais is well connected is she not so for her to let the cat put of the bag or prejudice any future justice would not be very helpful.

When the CPS are involved we may be looking at charges!

matthew Sat 22 Jun - 1:22

A Recap
CPS do not prosecute dead people afaik
Reviews would not turn into FULL investigations for a dead suspect that the CPS are attempting to build a case on
British suspects
Hamish Cambell:The answer lies within the files
Martin Brunts tweet
Cadaver dog
Selectivly deleted phone records
No trace of Madeleine in 5A

Karen Sat 22 Jun - 10:51

NOTE: LAST STATEMENT - NO comment from McCanns

By GARY O’SHEA and ANTONELLA LAZZERI
Published: 8 hrs ago

CPS lawyers go to Algarve in hunt for Maddie kidnapper

BRIT prosecutors have been to Portugal in the hunt for Madeleine McCann’s kidnapper — signalling fresh momentum in the bid to solve the mystery.

Lawyers from the Crown Prosecution Service flew to the Algarve as part of Scotland Yard’s £5million review of the three-year-old’s disappearance in May 2007.
A list of around 20 suspects — including Brits and Portuguese — has been drawn up by UK detectives.
Among them are known child sex offenders in the region at the time Madeleine, from Rothley, Leics, disappeared from her parents’ rented holiday villa in Praia da Luz.
Some were looked at as part of the original inquiry by Portuguese police, and will now face a fresh grilling.
The CPS team included London’s chief crown prosecutor Alison Saunders and deputy Jenny Hopkins. They flew out at the end of April but the trip only emerged yesterday.
Det Chf Supt Hamish Campbell leads two-year-old Operation Grange.

Madeleine’s parents Kate, 45, and Gerry, 44, would not comment.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4979258/CPS-in-Portugal-in-hunt-for-Maddie.html#ixzz2WvqpsDvh

duncanmac Sat 22 Jun - 11:13

Not sure about that last statement.
Does it mean the Macs have just remained silent.
Or
Were they asked for a comment and declined ?

**margaret** Sat 22 Jun - 11:30

I think it means they've been asked, if they hadn't the sentence would surely read 'have not commented'.

Remember the other week when it was announced SY could reopen the case in the UK, pinky initially said 'no comment' CPS Fly To Portgual - Evening Standard 21/6/13 - Page 2 25346

CPS Fly To Portgual - Evening Standard 21/6/13 - Page 2 25346

They're really on the back foot.

almostgothic Sat 22 Jun - 11:42

Yes - it's 'would not' rather than 'could not' -which it may have been if they had been advised not to comment.
That sounds very much as if they had been asked and it was their decision not to speak.

Very much on the back foot, margaret - and hopefully clean bowled ...

**tanszi** Sat 22 Jun - 13:49

I think that a first isn't it, on something that they could comment on, they havent. theyre quick to speak themselves, or a friend, a source, a family member or a pink one. Perhaps they've had strict instructions from the SY or legal representatives to keep their mouths shut. jimo.

comperedna Sat 22 Jun - 15:43

It might be argued that its quiet as something IS gojng on.
Joanne morais is well connected is she not so for her to let the cat put of the bag or prejudice any future justice would not be very helpful.

When the CPS are involved we may be looking at charges!
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CPS Fly To Portgual - Evening Standard 21/6/13 - Page 2 1-23

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Hope you are right, Loopdaloop.

I must say I thought the CPS were only involved at the END of the police investigation process, when the police were as sure as they could be that they had the case buttoned up. I thought CPS involvement indicated that they were having a good hard look at whether charges that were provable in court had been flagged up. ie that the CPS were all about deciding whether the case was strong enough to go to court with a likely prosecution success.

interested Sat 22 Jun - 17:39

matthew wrote:A Recap
CPS do not prosecute dead people afaik
Reviews would not turn into FULL investigations for a dead suspect that the CPS are attempting to build a case on
British suspects
Hamish Cambell:The answer lies within the files
Martin Brunts tweet
Cadaver dog
Selectivly deleted phone records
No trace of Madeleine in 5A

A very useful recap of the FACTS while reading the speculation in the press.

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