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Childless couple in link to Maddie mystery
Childless couple in link to Maddie mystery
http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/news/childless-couple-in-link-to-maddie-mystery#
POLICE are investigating a childless couple who they suspect could have abducted missing Madeleine McCann.
The pair, who had told friends they would kidnap a child after becoming frustrated with adoption red tape, are among the list of 38 new suspects drawn up by British cops.
A review by London’s Metropolitan police led them to the couple and detectives are now investigating the theory that they smuggled the missing toddler out of Portugal aboard a boat.
The man had inherited a large amount of money around the time Maddie disappeared on May 3, 2007, from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, and it’s believed he could have used the money to set up a new life.
And it’s the childless couple theory that is fuelling the last remaining hope that Maddie could still be alive.
This week cops said there is still no proof she is dead.
Other theories centered around paedophile gangs and lone sex offenders, but the investigation is now focusing on one individual who, having struggled with adoption procedures in Portugal, threatened to kidnap a child.
The individual is believed to have told friends that he was so frustrated with adoption procedures in a number of countries that “he would take his own child” if necessary.
The Metropolitan Police have been aware of this line of inquiry for the past two years, but it’s only since British PM David Cameron ordered a fresh review that they had the resources to follow it up independently of the Portuguese authorities.
Sources close to the new investigation have told the Sunday World that they believe Madeleine was stalked and targeted for abduction in the days before she disappeared.
The English suspect, who has never been interviewed by UK or Portuguese Police officers, is understood to have been driving a four-wheel drive car at the time of the kidnapping.
The theory suggests that the planned abduction of Maddie involved at least two people and it is claimed that the suspect used a newly-purchased yacht, which was moored about an hour away from Praia da Luz, to leave the country.
Scotland Yard officers involved in the new probe also believe that it is likely the suspect had somehow accessed a key to apartment 5A, where the McCanns stayed with their three children.
The new review – launched in 2011 amid frustration with the bungling of the original investigation, which saw the McCanns wrongly identified as suspects in their daughter’s disappearance – has discovered 195 new leads and 38 persons of interest, including known sex offenders who were in the country at the time.
The Scotland Yard team of up to 37 detectives have re-interviewed the McCanns and their friends who holidayed together and who were eating at the tapas bar in the resort when Maddie went missing. None of them are among the list of 38 individuals police confirmed.
Police also reviewed over 30,000 documents from the Portuguese authorities and material gained from the private investigators hired by the McCanns over the last six years.
The Metropolitan Police team has declared that the “new witnesses and new evidence” points to a likelihood that Maddie is alive and is being held captive in a similar vein to the spate of recovered childhood kidnap victims that have been discovered in Austria and in the US.
The McCanns and the Met officers have taken hope from these horrific cases and point most recently to the case of Cleveland monster Ariel Castro (52), who kept three young girls captive for a decade until cries for help from one of his victims, Amanda Berry, revealed their existence to the world.
Operation Grange’s Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is leading the new inquiry, says: “The review has given us new thinking, new theories, new evidence and new witnesses.”
The force is understood to have reviewed material from top-secret US spy satellites, which were recording material near the resort where Madeleine McCann disappeared five years ago.
The spy cameras, which can detect the number plate of a car from five miles up, had been denied to the Portuguese authorities, but details of it have been confidentially released to the UK review team to help them with the latest enquiry.
The satellite information – which will be used to help identify cars around the Mark Warner complex – was used to check out a red car which was spotted by witnesses on the night and has now been used to review movement related to the 4x4 vehicle.
Clarence Mitchell, the former BBC reporter and spokesperson for parents Kate and Gerry McCann said: “It was a big step forward in establishing what happened and, hopefully, in bringing to justice whoever is responsible for Madeleine’s abduction.”
See also article from september 2009:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/128671/Madeleine-I-know-how-she-was-taken
http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/news/childless-couple-in-link-to-maddie-mystery#
POLICE are investigating a childless couple who they suspect could have abducted missing Madeleine McCann.
The pair, who had told friends they would kidnap a child after becoming frustrated with adoption red tape, are among the list of 38 new suspects drawn up by British cops.
A review by London’s Metropolitan police led them to the couple and detectives are now investigating the theory that they smuggled the missing toddler out of Portugal aboard a boat.
The man had inherited a large amount of money around the time Maddie disappeared on May 3, 2007, from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, and it’s believed he could have used the money to set up a new life.
And it’s the childless couple theory that is fuelling the last remaining hope that Maddie could still be alive.
This week cops said there is still no proof she is dead.
Other theories centered around paedophile gangs and lone sex offenders, but the investigation is now focusing on one individual who, having struggled with adoption procedures in Portugal, threatened to kidnap a child.
The individual is believed to have told friends that he was so frustrated with adoption procedures in a number of countries that “he would take his own child” if necessary.
The Metropolitan Police have been aware of this line of inquiry for the past two years, but it’s only since British PM David Cameron ordered a fresh review that they had the resources to follow it up independently of the Portuguese authorities.
Sources close to the new investigation have told the Sunday World that they believe Madeleine was stalked and targeted for abduction in the days before she disappeared.
The English suspect, who has never been interviewed by UK or Portuguese Police officers, is understood to have been driving a four-wheel drive car at the time of the kidnapping.
The theory suggests that the planned abduction of Maddie involved at least two people and it is claimed that the suspect used a newly-purchased yacht, which was moored about an hour away from Praia da Luz, to leave the country.
Scotland Yard officers involved in the new probe also believe that it is likely the suspect had somehow accessed a key to apartment 5A, where the McCanns stayed with their three children.
The new review – launched in 2011 amid frustration with the bungling of the original investigation, which saw the McCanns wrongly identified as suspects in their daughter’s disappearance – has discovered 195 new leads and 38 persons of interest, including known sex offenders who were in the country at the time.
The Scotland Yard team of up to 37 detectives have re-interviewed the McCanns and their friends who holidayed together and who were eating at the tapas bar in the resort when Maddie went missing. None of them are among the list of 38 individuals police confirmed.
Police also reviewed over 30,000 documents from the Portuguese authorities and material gained from the private investigators hired by the McCanns over the last six years.
The Metropolitan Police team has declared that the “new witnesses and new evidence” points to a likelihood that Maddie is alive and is being held captive in a similar vein to the spate of recovered childhood kidnap victims that have been discovered in Austria and in the US.
The McCanns and the Met officers have taken hope from these horrific cases and point most recently to the case of Cleveland monster Ariel Castro (52), who kept three young girls captive for a decade until cries for help from one of his victims, Amanda Berry, revealed their existence to the world.
Operation Grange’s Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is leading the new inquiry, says: “The review has given us new thinking, new theories, new evidence and new witnesses.”
The force is understood to have reviewed material from top-secret US spy satellites, which were recording material near the resort where Madeleine McCann disappeared five years ago.
The spy cameras, which can detect the number plate of a car from five miles up, had been denied to the Portuguese authorities, but details of it have been confidentially released to the UK review team to help them with the latest enquiry.
The satellite information – which will be used to help identify cars around the Mark Warner complex – was used to check out a red car which was spotted by witnesses on the night and has now been used to review movement related to the 4x4 vehicle.
Clarence Mitchell, the former BBC reporter and spokesperson for parents Kate and Gerry McCann said: “It was a big step forward in establishing what happened and, hopefully, in bringing to justice whoever is responsible for Madeleine’s abduction.”
See also article from september 2009:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/128671/Madeleine-I-know-how-she-was-taken
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What a load of old rubbish!
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SteveT wrote:What a load of old rubbish!
How on earth can Mitchell even respond to this garbage ("It was a big step forward..........")
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Desperate times require desperate measures
Obviously things are on the move aren't they Clarry, toilet rolls at the ready
Obviously things are on the move aren't they Clarry, toilet rolls at the ready
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So, where would this man have been hiding Madeleine McCann, the world's most well known missing child? An individual suddenly has a 4 year-old child and no one asks questions? If this person had been looking out for a child to kidnap, and had been watching the McCanns, he would surely have taken Amelie, a younger child who could not articulate to others what had happened? Also, if a nearly 4 year-old was fine, there must have been easier ones to snatch than one from an apartment where supposedly so many people were coming and going it was like a Brian Rix farce?
And where is 10 year-old Maddie? Attending school somewhere? I doubt it. Having friends round for tea? I doubt she would be involved in any of the normal childhood activities.
And where is 10 year-old Maddie? Attending school somewhere? I doubt it. Having friends round for tea? I doubt she would be involved in any of the normal childhood activities.
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And it’s the childless couple theory that is fuelling the last remaining hope that Maddie could still be alive.
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What about the other 38 people that SY would like to speak to??
What a load of Tish.
And it’s the childless couple theory that is fuelling the last remaining hope that Maddie could still be alive.
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What about the other 38 people that SY would like to speak to??
What a load of Tish.
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There are more holes in this 'couple' story than in an Emmental cheese dressed in my dad's old string vest.
More holes even than a colander full of Polo Mints.
I would list them all, but I'd probably die from fatigue and/or hysteria before I was done.
Either it's a full-on spoof or a ridiculous, ham-fisted attempt at a cover story for George Brooks' dawn sighting of a skulking couple with a child whilst driving home.
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More holes even than a colander full of Polo Mints.
I would list them all, but I'd probably die from fatigue and/or hysteria before I was done.
Either it's a full-on spoof or a ridiculous, ham-fisted attempt at a cover story for George Brooks' dawn sighting of a skulking couple with a child whilst driving home.
Almostgothic, posting from a darkened room with a bag of frozen peas clamped to me forehead ...
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The longer they are dragging this out the more desperate and inanely stupid the statements become.
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i thought the satellite could not be of use as it was covering mexico and would not show anything in Portugal
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FGS "The pair, who had told friends they would kidnap a child" How stupid is that
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welshy wrote: i thought the satellite could not be of use as it was covering mexico and would not show anything in Portugal
welshy, that's what I remember too.
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dutchclogs wrote:FGS "The pair, who had told friends they would kidnap a child" How stupid is that
And if the police know about the couple telling friends, one or more of the friends have spilled the beans and the cops know the couple are.
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I can't believe anyone would actually take this seriously. It really is making the British police look like a bunch of comedians.
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OMG.
if you have money you can get almost anything you want including children. Look at the number of wealthy celebrities (eg Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, Madonna) who have adopted children. A cheque book deals with bureaucratic delays.
And obviously a wealthy couple wanting a child want to get one as young as possible - with their money they can 'buy' a young baby from a poor family.
So it is incomprehensible that a wealthy couple would take the risk of kidnapping a middle class virtually four year old child.
Ask any social worker and they'll tell you the older the child the harder it is to place for adoption.
if you have money you can get almost anything you want including children. Look at the number of wealthy celebrities (eg Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, Madonna) who have adopted children. A cheque book deals with bureaucratic delays.
And obviously a wealthy couple wanting a child want to get one as young as possible - with their money they can 'buy' a young baby from a poor family.
So it is incomprehensible that a wealthy couple would take the risk of kidnapping a middle class virtually four year old child.
Ask any social worker and they'll tell you the older the child the harder it is to place for adoption.
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Why would SY mention this if it was serious? They wouldn't want to tip them off that they were onto them. Why not go find the couple and check them out and then tell the world?
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thought it was moroccowelshy wrote: i thought the satellite could not be of use as it was covering mexico and would not show anything in Portugal
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ok first of all the spy camera information which was denied to the PJ has been given to the Met. Why and why? there is now a red car to go with the white van, the cleaners and the remainder of the 38 persons of interest or suspects. After six years someone has finally said, oh my gosh, my friend said he would take a child because he was frustrated with the adoption process. so where is this person because his friend would surely tell the police where he is, and has the friend ever seen this person living with a child. yes hes got so much money he s got a yacht he wouldn't think to go to other parts of the world and chose a child which he wanted and could obtain legally.( Hope the yacht is not the one owned by the Australian heiress aka posh lookalike). according to this article, the met have question the T9 and say they are not suspects. Are the met going to disregard the work of Martin Grimes MBE and his lovely dogs, are the Met going to ignore the inconsistencies in the accountsgiven by the McCs to the families and the PJ.
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I would like to know why Redwood keeps giving interviews instead of getting on with the Job of authorising the necessary paperwork to try to find a couple of the 38 persons of Interest, does he have to go through the same procedure for other "persons of interest".
Redwood seems like one of the Keystone Cops, not a Detective Inspector .........doesn't he remember that the Portugese complained that Metodo 3 were doing a secondary investigation which is not allowed in Portugel. ???
Redwood seems like one of the Keystone Cops, not a Detective Inspector .........doesn't he remember that the Portugese complained that Metodo 3 were doing a secondary investigation which is not allowed in Portugel. ???
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tanszi wrote:ok first of all the spy camera information which was denied to the PJ has been given to the Met. Why and why? there is now a red car to go with the white van, the cleaners and the remainder of the 38 persons of interest or suspects. After six years someone has finally said, oh my gosh, my friend said he would take a child because he was frustrated with the adoption process. so where is this person because his friend would surely tell the police where he is, and has the friend ever seen this person living with a child. yes hes got so much money he s got a yacht he wouldn't think to go to other parts of the world and chose a child which he wanted and could obtain legally.( Hope the yacht is not the one owned by the Australian heiress aka posh lookalike). according to this article, the met have question the T9 and say they are not suspects. Are the met going to disregard the work of Martin Grimes MBE and his lovely dogs, are the Met going to ignore the inconsistencies in the accountsgiven by the McCs to the families and the PJ.
Yes and yes.
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.Badboy wrote:thought it was moroccowelshy wrote: i thought the satellite could not be of use as it was covering mexico and would not show anything in Portugal
badboy you are probably right I remember the satalitte being of no use to the PJ x
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more about the satellite:
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8311-satellite-clue-to-maddie-kidnap?highlight=satellite
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8311-satellite-clue-to-maddie-kidnap?highlight=satellite
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Annabel wrote:more about the satellite:
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8311-satellite-clue-to-maddie-kidnap?highlight=satellite
"We were confident of getting progress because of Gordon Brown's interest in the case and this apparent special relationship between Britain and the United States."
"Your ambassador to Portugal even visited our officers soon after the kidnap."
The coverup goes right back to the McCanns' seeing to it that Gordon Brown take a "SPECIAL" interest in the case.
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Another great piece of literary genius from donal macintyre.Almost too good to be true.
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