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Post  Karen Tue 15 Oct - 21:32

With regards to the programme aired on our Dutch Channel (Nederland1)

The programme was much of a muchness as the BBC one.   I couldnt help myself I decided to call - well lets just say I let rip!  I was little Maddies voice.

I spoke to a very friendly lady - I explained to her about the Smith sighting - the 49questions and referrred her to the links,  I also explained to her about the Libel Trial - she asked me when and where and what it was about??  I explained it to her.  I explained that there is a cover - up she asked me why I say that,  I informed her about Gordon Brown interference and also  Gerry's number in the CATS System - she noted that,  I also informed her about the the dogs and that they had alerted to 13spots of interest.  I vertered my anger towards the false reporting and the fact that it seemed her "reporters" had also not read the Portuguese file and that this is misleading information.  I have directed her to the app. links - I explained that WE the public are sick and tired of these false leads and damaging reporting lies from the McCanns and their  friends.   I informed them that the case is not CLOSED it is SHELVED and the parents simulated an abduction - she sounded shocked! She had informed me that everything had been noted - she asked my telephone number and where I live.  I told her I wanted to be little Maddies voice - she told me I was doing an excellent job.OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 25346 

Expecting to hear the sirens - see blue lights any minute and Andy ringing on my doorbell.

German version of Crimewatch

http://www.zdf.de/Aktenzeichen-XY-...-ungelöst/Wo-ist-Madeleine-30183896.html

note at 21: 54 Gerry slips up and says "how much we LOVED her"?? I think the reporter asked Gerry what he would say to Madeleine



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Post  mollydog Tue 15 Oct - 21:44

WOW !! Karen WELL DONE !! Clever Dutch lady ! You have my Huge Admiration .And hi to all our Dutch Friends in Heemskerk and Alphen an der Rhein !
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Post  Karen Tue 15 Oct - 21:52

mollydog wrote:WOW !! Karen WELL DONE !! Clever Dutch lady ! You have my Huge Admiration .And hi to all our Dutch Friends in Heemskerk and Alphen an der Rhein !
Thanks - yeah I seriously did let rip, the lady was hanging on my every word.
I am British born, was married to a Portuguese - children and grandchild - Algarvians, I am now living in Holland - so besides having so much sympathy and sadness for little Maddie - I feel attached to this case in all sorts of ways!

So glad the had the opportunity to speak for precious Maddie.
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Post  tanszi Tue 15 Oct - 21:54

Yes Karen, I think you are very brave. I would not know where to start.
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OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 306474 Excellent Karen OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 463742 
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Post  Lioned Tue 15 Oct - 22:03

Well done Karen.
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OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691  Well done!
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Post  Guest Tue 15 Oct - 23:08

Karen, that's absolutely smashing, and at least the lady didn't hang up on you, like the phone people on Crimewatch! OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 
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Post  whatsupdoc Tue 15 Oct - 23:23

Well done, Karen.....gosh, you certainly got a lot of information across... OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 

I'm back to follow the libel trial and I did watch the Crimewatch which was a disgrace for the BBC which is supposed to be unbiased and truthful but was just another PR stunt for the McCanns ... as expected.

Redwood , wearing NSY blinkers, has taken 6 1/2 years and is still bleating about an abduction whereas the PJ knew within days what the McCanns were up to. Thank goodness the Smith sighting has been revived.

I'm on twitter agn and it's hectic... OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 25346 
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Post  Karen Tue 15 Oct - 23:45

mossman wrote:OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 
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Thank you ALL for your kind words - had to say my piece and will sleep better tonight knowing I spoke up for us and for little Maddie
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Post  interested Wed 16 Oct - 0:46

Sleep well Karen knowing you spoke out on behalf of a little girl you didn't even know.
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Post  dutchclogs Wed 16 Oct - 3:37

Well done  Karen..OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 I did not watch the Dutch one, Not after the BBC CW OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 371436 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 157799 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 816281
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Post  margaret Wed 16 Oct - 10:13

Karen, l'm full of admiration for you WELL DONE!!! OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 873702 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 929468 OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 83453
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Post  frencheuropean Wed 16 Oct - 12:51

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Post  Bebootje Wed 16 Oct - 13:00

Well, good for you Karen, I watched and yes, it was disappointing. On the other hand, I believe this program is to exclude some persons of interest, it is not a conclusion.
If this path leads to nowhere, they will have to look at the McCanns again, won't they?
What struck me indeed was that when the question was popped that the McCanns once were suspects, Redwood answerend that they aren't suspects now.
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Post  ann_chovey Wed 16 Oct - 13:07

Well done indeed Karen. I could not have done that......has Andy 'Deadwood' been in touch yet...Lol.
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Post  tigger Wed 16 Oct - 20:20

On Monday the screening of the Crimewatch programme was discussed in a news programme.

They interviewed a private detective who has followed the case from the start, this is the translation of the clip:


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Here is the quickly translated (so bear with me) clip of the private detective Nico van der Dries who apparently has been following the case for years.

1)  There are witness statements from the family Smith. Well, yes, the witness statements have only recently been rercorded.
The question is here how a witness is able to give a description of a man they have seen 6 years ago.
Voice over: Nico v.d. Dries doest not believe that Maddie will ever be found.
2) I think she's been killed.
Interviewer: Why?
3) Because the time factor  tells us this is the case - . there are also very clear indications from the blood traces found and the scent of death which the Scotland Yard dog indicated.


End of clip
from: hartvannederland.nl - broadcast 14/10/2013 at 19.00. The clip starts at about 7 minutes in.

There's also a brief clip from a Dutch hotel owner Joyce Fasen who has a hotel close to PdL. She is only asked about the activity of the press at the moment.
She answered that the village once again feels it's rest is disturbed.

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Post  ann_chovey Wed 16 Oct - 20:30

Oh dear, they won't like that!
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Post  Karen Thu 17 Oct - 1:28

German version of Crimewatch

http://www.zdf.de/Aktenzeichen-XY-...-ungelöst/Wo-ist-Madeleine-30183896.html

note at 21: 54 Gerry slips up and says "how much we LOVED her"?? I think the reporter asked Gerry what he would say to Madeleine
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Post  tigger Thu 17 Oct - 6:18

Karen wrote:German version of Crimewatch

http://www.zdf.de/Aktenzeichen-XY-...-ungelöst/Wo-ist-Madeleine-30183896.html

note at 21: 54 Gerry slips up and says "how much we LOVED her"?? I think the reporter asked Gerry what he would say to Madeleine
You're doing a great job Karen!  

Is the Dutch version of crimewatch different to the UK one?  I will watch it on the internet this weekend.

Why different versions -  and why is it so important to Gerry  not to be  near the gate to 5a. Only thing I can think of is that he was  trying to get the shutters up, but those are on the other side of the building. Or that it would look as if he came out by the patio doors where he'd first stated that he went out by the front door.
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Post  mossman Thu 17 Oct - 7:20

[quote="tigger"

Why different versions -  and why is it so important to Gerry  not to be  near the gate to 5a. Only thing I can think of is that he was  trying to get the shutters up, but those are on the other side of the building. Or that it would look as if he came out by the patio doors where he'd first stated that he went out by the front door.
The patio doors weren't officially open until the 10th May...[/quote]





Which side was the flower bed with faint scents of cadaver ?
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Post  ann_chovey Thu 17 Oct - 8:18

mossman wrote:[quote="tigger"

Why different versions -  and why is it so important to Gerry  not to be  near the gate to 5a. Only thing I can think of is that he was  trying to get the shutters up, but those are on the other side of the building. Or that it would look as if he came out by the patio doors where he'd first stated that he went out by the front door.
The patio doors weren't officially open until the 10th May...



Which side was the flower bed with faint scents of cadaver ?[/quote]

Cadaver: 'In the flowerbed of the yard' (outside patio door entrance)

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id157.html
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Post  Christine Thu 17 Oct - 8:19

Since I have a Dutch (Belgian) website about Maddie, where I only put videos and translations on of English articles (I don't spout my opinion on there), I was asked last week by Eva Janik, a Dutch woman with a tv-programm on sunday afternoons, to appear in their programm. When they learned I was anti McCann they said they would look for someone else. I watched it last sunday and they indeed had a reporter on who interviewed the McCanns a few years ago and was full of praise of them :(
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Post  Krisy22 Thu 17 Oct - 8:26

Well done Karen.OPSPORING Verzocht! Nederland 1 PLUS Wo ist Madeleine  ZDF 307691 
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