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kitti wrote:They don't need to dig  in PDL to find out....dig into the files...it's all there

mossman wrote:If this is an honest search, then I don't believe they are looking for Madeleine herself, but other items, they have been given information about.  The multiple locations and the areas themselves leads me to believe this, I don't think she is in PDL area and has not been for a long time.

Panda wrote:

mossman wrote:If this is an honest search, then I don't believe they are looking for Madeleine herself, but other items, they have been given information about.  The multiple locations and the areas themselves leads me to believe this, I don't think she is in PDL area and has not been for a long time.

Morning mossman, I think the general consensus among the Portugese that madeleine's body was thrown from the nearby clifftop into the Sea is the most obvious.  Why choose scrubland when you would need a spade and shovel , plus have to carry the body of Madeleine to the area and risk being seen in the process ???

jassi wrote:

Panda wrote:

mossman wrote:If this is an honest search, then I don't believe they are looking for Madeleine herself, but other items, they have been given information about.  The multiple locations and the areas themselves leads me to believe this, I don't think she is in PDL area and has not been for a long time.

Morning mossman, I think the general consensus among the Portugese that madeleine's body was thrown from the nearby clifftop into the Sea is the most obvious.  Why choose scrubland when you would need a spade and shovel , plus have to carry the body of Madeleine to the area and risk being seen in the process ???

I've often wondered how realistic this idea would be.
Are the cliffs vertical ? If not, a body is going to fall towards the foot of the cliff, but not necessarily fall into the sea.
Even if it reached sea, there would be a good chance of it being washed up somewhere along the coast.

Morning jassi, there is a rumour that Madeleine's body was hidden in a cave on the Beach until it could be taken out to Sea, that of course would need a Boat and the body to be weighted down, in the Tennis Bag? Then there was another theory that Madeleine's body was put in the Tennis bag and added to the Luggage and equipment belonging to Jon Corner which he took to PDL to make a video and was shipped separately to the U.K.

I feel, that whatever happened, she was not thrown from a cliff top.

jassi wrote:

Panda wrote:

mossman wrote:If this is an honest search, then I don't believe they are looking for Madeleine herself, but other items, they have been given information about.  The multiple locations and the areas themselves leads me to believe this, I don't think she is in PDL area and has not been for a long time.

Morning mossman, I think the general consensus among the Portugese that madeleine's body was thrown from the nearby clifftop into the Sea is the most obvious.  Why choose scrubland when you would need a spade and shovel , plus have to carry the body of Madeleine to the area and risk being seen in the process ???

I've often wondered how realistic this idea would be.
Are the cliffs vertical ? If not, a body is going to fall towards the foot of the cliff, but not necessarily fall into the sea.
Even if it reached sea, there would be a good chance of it being washed up somewhere along the coast.

I feel, that whatever happened, she was not thrown from a cliff top.

ann_chovey wrote:

jassi wrote:

Panda wrote:

mossman wrote:If this is an honest search, then I don't believe they are looking for Madeleine herself, but other items, they have been given information about.  The multiple locations and the areas themselves leads me to believe this, I don't think she is in PDL area and has not been for a long time.

Morning mossman, I think the general consensus among the Portugese that madeleine's body was thrown from the nearby clifftop into the Sea is the most obvious.  Why choose scrubland when you would need a spade and shovel , plus have to carry the body of Madeleine to the area and risk being seen in the process ???

I've often wondered how realistic this idea would be.
Are the cliffs vertical ? If not, a body is going to fall towards the foot of the cliff, but not necessarily fall into the sea.
Even if it reached sea, there would be a good chance of it being washed up somewhere along the coast.

I feel, that whatever happened, she was not thrown from a cliff top.

I agree with you, G. Amaral.....'As to that hypothesis, of throwing a body - and I recall that the little girl’s weight would be about 30 kilos – from here to the sea, I would say that is impossible. Notice that the sea is not immediately beneath here, the cliff does not have a vertical steep, there is a vertical grade and the sea is still far away. A great strength or almost a gigantic person would be needed for the body to fall in the sea, and in the deep sea. There are photos, taken in the rocks down bellow in the water, were we can see searching, certainly he was not searching for his live daughter…

HC: Are you referring to Maddie’s father?

GA: To Gerald McCann. Maddie’s father.

HC: He was walking around here, in the rocks below?

jeanmonroe wrote:MMMds left her apartment with her friend at 21.58 precisely and saw a car parked close to the Window of 5a.
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who is MMMds?

Here's the 'rub'

any 'pre-planned' abduction (AR, Met) would have a car paked in the carpark outside as near to the 'target' as possible.

they would not leave by patio doors because they could be seen, from balconies above/around.

So straight out of FRONT door over/around small wall into car, and gone.

MILES AWAY before alarm raised.

Not 'wandering' around a holiday resort for 45 minutes, carrying a child, until Smith's 'see' you.

Oh, and just to add: When they were in the apartment, of their 'target' the night BEFORE,(crying 'episode') with no adults about, they wouldn't leave their 'target' there and come back the next night, when they could be 'caught'!

Would they?
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KM: "Gerry and I spoke for a couple of minutes and agreed to keep a closer watch over the children."

THEN, promptly went out again THAT night leaving their THREE kids, all under 4 years of age, alone again, in an unlocked apartment, out of sight, for at LEAST 35minutes!

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ann_chovey wrote:@jinvta, yes that is the young woman.

more from G. Amaral.......

'GA: There is an important aspect and that is the diary of Mrs Kate McCann. There are some who have the opinion the diary was written to be read. At a certain point in time, following the dates given there just a few days after the disappearance, Mrs. Kate McCann says that she is running, doing her jogging – the daughter is missing and she is doing her training – and in there, in that plateau that we are seeing right now, she said that she was climbing it when she saw a number of journalists, of people and that she begun suspecting that the body of her daughter had been found. That is in her diary. She points to that area. When they have hired…

HC: But pointing to that place, is using as basis that the child has lost her life?!

GA: Exactly, it was always like that, since the beginning the parents, at least Kate McCann, have always spoken about the death of the child. Those emails that they delivered [to the PJ] of a clairvoyant that explained where the body could be, beneath the church area, inside a sewer collector.'

mossman wrote:Ricardo Paiva was an Inspector with the Portugese Police, not from the UK.  Poor man has had enough insults, lets not put him in the Stuart Prior category   

Panda wrote:

mossman wrote:Ricardo Paiva was an Inspector with the Portugese Police, not from the UK.  Poor man has had enough insults, lets not put him in the Stuart Prior category   

Morning Mossman, I thought the Policeman Kate phoned was named Paiva....he is of Portugese Parentage but living in the U.K and and was part of the U.K group sent to PDL at the very beginning ......no doubt someone will check it out and correct me if I am wrong. Kate phoned this Policeman quite late at night when Gerry was in London , crying that she dreamt or thought Madeleine was dead.

mossman wrote:

Panda wrote:

mossman wrote:Ricardo Paiva was an Inspector with the Portugese Police, not from the UK.  Poor man has had enough insults, lets not put him in the Stuart Prior category   

Morning Mossman, I thought the Policeman Kate phoned was named Paiva....he is of Portugese Parentage but living in the U.K and and was part of the U.K group sent to PDL at the very beginning ......no doubt someone will check it out and correct me if I am wrong. Kate phoned this Policeman quite late at night when Gerry was in London , crying that she dreamt or thought Madeleine was dead.

She did contact him about her dream etc, but he's not from the English police, Panda, he was definitely an Inspector with the police team from Portugal.