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Post  MaryB Sun 22 Jun - 12:51

It seems that they are even further away from finding out officially what happened to Madeleine as they were a month after she disappeared. I hoped with the digging it would unearth a clue but seems it didn't. I am still hopeful that eventually the mystery of what happened to this poor child will be solved. It's really strange that it was all action and news days before the McCanns were due to make their speeches in court. But now that they didn't it's all quiet again.
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Post  kathybelle Sun 22 Jun - 13:31

MaryB wrote:It seems that they are even further away from finding out officially what happened to Madeleine as they were a month after she disappeared.  I hoped with the digging it would unearth a clue but seems it didn't.  I am still hopeful that eventually the mystery of what happened to this poor child will be solved.  It's really strange that it was all action and news days before the McCanns were due to make their speeches in court. But now that they didn't it's all quiet again.  

Hello MaryB

While part of me was hoping that Operation Grange, was working hand in glove with the PJ, to bring the McCanns, to justice. I can't get my head round Andy Redwood, stating more than once, that the McCanns and their mates are not persons of interest to he and his team. He has also stated that the original team of PJ investigators, made mistakes which he and his team, uncovered in the PJ files, during the review. Redwood told the media that he had requested a new team of PJ investigators and his request was granted. I can't find any information to prove this, all I know he said it.

It's because of Redwood, continually mouthing off to the media, when he should remain silent, that I believe that Operation Grange, are looking for anyone but the McCanns, to take the blame for Madeleine's disappearance.

The McCanns must be brought to justice, because they were the last two people to see Madeleine alive. Their mates who supposedly checked them, said they never saw Madeleine, despite her bed facing the entrance to the bedroom. Also there was no evidence was abducted alive, or dead, only evidence that she died in the McCanns apartment and her cadaver scent was found on items of clothing, belonging to herself and her mother.

It's absolutely disgusting that the McCanns are still peddling their lies and causing more distress to Goncalo Amaral and his family. What's even more disgusting is, people still believe their lies and this is because of newspaper printing their lies and stating them as fact.

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Post  fred Sun 22 Jun - 14:26

My theory is still that a dead paedophile will take the rap!
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Post  malena stool Sun 22 Jun - 14:47

fred wrote:My theory is still that a dead paedophile will take the rap!
Sounds about right fred. They would have to make sure he wasn't in his 'golden years', wheel chair bound and suffering breathing difficulties though.
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Post  fred Sun 22 Jun - 14:56

...Or even fallen off his own tractor!
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Post  malena stool Sun 22 Jun - 15:19

fred wrote:...Or even fallen off his own tractor!
That's stretching it a bit fine, fred... Can we expect a significant breakthrough 23324 
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Post  Lioned Sun 22 Jun - 17:31

The SY digging was to show the public that there is no body to be found and Maddie could be alive.It coincided exactly with Amarals libel trial.
We dont know whats going to happen next but SY have had seven years to home in on the mccanns so thats a little unlikely now.

Finding a dead patsy with a connection to a rich childless Russian Olygog via a German intermediary is probably most likely.
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Post  kitti Sun 22 Jun - 20:27

It won't happen though...dead men cant talk and can't deny it and SY cant prove it..it won't happen.



Unless off course they plant Madeleines DNA on them which means digging them up...won't happen.

SY are lost for leads...
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Post  fred Sun 22 Jun - 20:47

kitti wrote:It won't happen though...dead men cant talk and can't deny it and SY cant prove it..it won't happen.



Unless off course they plant Madeleines DNA on them which means digging them up...won't happen.

SY are lost for leads...

Still won't stop the inumerable 'stories' being planted in the British press and the general public, sorry sheep going along with it though!
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Post  margaret Sun 22 Jun - 22:06

fred wrote:My theory is still that a dead paedophile will take the rap!

The CPS have been reported as going to PDL to talk to the PJ and they don't charge dead people.

If SY want to whitewash this case they want to hope no one at any time, ever, spills the beans. Too risky IMO.
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Post  jeanmonroe Sun 22 Jun - 23:59

Lioned wrote:The SY digging was to show the public that there is no body to be found and Maddie could be alive.It coincided exactly with Amarals libel trial.

Hardly to have gone 'unnoticed' by the libel case Judge either!

As previous Met 'increased activity' just before every McCann 'appearances' before her.
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Post  tanszi Mon 23 Jun - 1:03

yes just waiting to see what they (SY) try to pull out of the bag before the next trial date. surely not a sighting to be ridiculed, or a cleaner or burglar. not really much left for them to have a go at except ................................
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Post  interested Mon 23 Jun - 3:45

The papers will likely go with that old chestnut, "imminent arrests".
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Post  jinvta Mon 23 Jun - 6:25

Lioned wrote:The SY digging was to show the public that there is no body to be found and Maddie could be alive.It coincided exactly with Amarals libel trial.
We dont know whats going to happen next but SY have had seven years to home in on the mccanns so thats a little unlikely now.

Finding a dead patsy with a connection to a rich childless Russian Olygog via a German intermediary is probably most likely.

I don't believe that the timing of these searches had anything to do with the libel case.

Further, the fact that searches for Madeleine are still being conducted over 7 years after she went missing are proof that Amaral's book has not hindered the search for her.

Plus the fact that SY was clearly not searching for a live Madeleine shows that even they are considering the possibility that Madeleine is dead as Amaral had theorized.

Lastly, it is a judge, not a jury, presiding over the case, and a judge is much less likely to be swayed by the media or any of the McCanns', Clarrie's, or SY's shenaningans.

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Post  kitti Mon 23 Jun - 7:29

I hope when mr amaral comes out off court a winner, the mccanns down 1m plus for legal fees , he sues them for everything they got .



The took away his basic human rights to live, they took away his right to feed and look after his children and I hope he thinks about suing the British newspapers too.
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Post  almostgothic Mon 23 Jun - 8:25

margaret wrote:
fred wrote:My theory is still that a dead paedophile will take the rap!

The CPS have been reported as going to PDL to talk to the PJ and they don't charge dead people.

If SY want to whitewash this case they want to hope no one at any time, ever, spills the beans.  Too risky IMO.
And the CPS would only go to Portugal if a case was being built against British suspects.
Because they have no jurisdiction over persons from other countries.
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Post  malena stool Mon 23 Jun - 9:18

almostgothic wrote:
margaret wrote:
fred wrote:My theory is still that a dead paedophile will take the rap!

The CPS have been reported as going to PDL to talk to the PJ and they don't charge dead people.

If SY want to whitewash this case they want to hope no one at any time, ever, spills the beans.  Too risky IMO.
And the CPS would only go to Portugal if a case was being built against British suspects.
Because they have no jurisdiction over persons from other countries.
I like your thinking ag, it would be nice to think they are looking at the right suspects.
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Post  DavidA Mon 23 Jun - 22:30

malena stool wrote:
almostgothic wrote:
margaret wrote:
fred wrote:My theory is still that a dead paedophile will take the rap!

The CPS have been reported as going to PDL to talk to the PJ and they don't charge dead people.

If SY want to whitewash this case they want to hope no one at any time, ever, spills the beans.  Too risky IMO.
And the CPS would only go to Portugal if a case was being built against British suspects.
Because they have no jurisdiction over persons from other countries.
I like your thinking ag, it would be nice to think they are looking at the right suspects.

That is an interesting point, but I think British police can still investigate to get evidence to give to the PJ.

I think maybe the British police are doing these searches to try to put pressure on the McCanns. I think this for two reasons. One is because the British police must see what we see. Two is because the McCanns, after the police started searching, said they believe she is still alive. They did not comment directly on the search because maybe they want to avoid this.
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Post  LJC Tue 24 Jun - 17:01

jinvta wrote:
Lioned wrote:The SY digging was to show the public that there is no body to be found and Maddie could be alive.It coincided exactly with Amarals libel trial.
We dont know whats going to happen next but SY have had seven years to home in on the mccanns so thats a little unlikely now.

Finding a dead patsy with a connection to a rich childless Russian Olygog via a German intermediary is probably most likely.

I don't believe that the timing of these searches had anything to do with the libel case.

Further, the fact that searches for Madeleine are still being conducted over 7 years after she went missing are proof that Amaral's book has not hindered the search for her.

Plus the fact that SY was clearly not searching for a live Madeleine shows that even they are considering the possibility that Madeleine is dead as Amaral had theorized.

Lastly, it is a judge, not a jury, presiding over the case, and a judge is much less likely to be swayed by the media or any of the McCanns', Clarrie's, or SY's shenaningans.


Absolutely correct and a very common sense point of view.
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Post  LJC Tue 24 Jun - 17:03

almostgothic wrote:
margaret wrote:
fred wrote:My theory is still that a dead paedophile will take the rap!

The CPS have been reported as going to PDL to talk to the PJ and they don't charge dead people.

If SY want to whitewash this case they want to hope no one at any time, ever, spills the beans.  Too risky IMO.
And the CPS would only go to Portugal if a case was being built against British suspects.
Because they have no jurisdiction over persons from other countries.

Agreed almostgothic.

Best just keep to the facts of what is happening not speculate on what we think might happen.
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Post  tigger Wed 25 Jun - 12:08

On radio 5 this morning a secretary of sorts from 'Hacked Off' was interviewed re the outcome of the Brooks/Coulson trial.

I thought it was quite significant that there was no mention of McCann, Dowling was mentioned and 'other' cases. I live in hope. Considering that Gerry and his bestest friend Hugh Grant were in the forefront of promoting this assault on press freedom.
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