Getting beyond a joke

The daily hysterical outpourings against president Trump are becoming a joke now. Leaving aside the small matter of him being duly elected under the Americans own system, whatever he does will be wrong. The Democrats in particular calling for his blood . Whatever each individual  thinks of him, that fact of his election remains; much to the Democrat chagrin. The latest being his moratorium on certain Islamic  countries. not a ban as the news nightly gets it wrong. Kennedy, Carter, and even Obama at one time or another imposed such a ban, and no one said a dicky bird. It isn't as though he hid his intentions during the election campaign. Still he was elected. lets just forget about Iran running rings round Obama. They were announcing there was no deal even before Obama was back in the white house, and to this day have signed nothing. As soon as they have a ballistic missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, the nuclear clock will move perilously close to 12 noon. Then this morning we have a photograph of Ivanka  Trump horror of horrors sitting in the Presidents chair. A clear case of treason say the Democrats, conveniently ignoring the little boy photographed at the same chair holding a telephone during Obama's mal-administration. As for the proposed wall. Bush senior lengthened and strengthened it during his administration, and again, no one said a word. President trump has proved himself an outstanding business man, and those skills my very well make some inroads on America's national debt of trillions of dollars. At least he should be left alone to try. Otherwise, just as here in Britain where MP's have recently voted against the will of the people, democracy is no more. I see no demonstrations calling for the release of Asia Bibi for instance. On death row in Pakistan for the unspeakable crime of drinking from a public fountain. One example of many injustices around the world.

Good afternoon, katertaif.
The Americans for the main are as happy with their new President's actions as many of we in the UK are with the slow, but steady progress of the Brexit process, despite the actions of those who wish to remain within the EU and the offensive interruptions in that process by foreign business interests, unelected Judges, crooked ex members of parliament and Prime Ministers.

The media are bearing much of the blame and rightly so, for Trump's apparent unpopularity, they are reporting the downsides of every attempt to follow his mandate not what he has achieved so far. I have relatives in the US who have been there since the end of WW2 and are able to remember previous presidents much further back than the Obama, Clinton and the Bush dynasties. Much of the anti Trump rioting was and still is reputedly being organised and funded by serving Democrats according to my relations. They tell me of teenage students, male and female being shown on TV newsreels, sitting crying in the streets because of Clinton's failure to win the election. What on earth are they doing with their lives when they become Lemmings and join in with rioting or cry like babies over an election result?

Obama and his family have shown no respect for their armed servicemen, Michelle has been photographed and filmed texting during their National Anthem, Obama himself went golfing on the days when their deceased servicemen were being brought home, (something Bush nor any other president has ever done). But he did give the electorate in borderline or wavering communities mobile phones to vote him into office.... A step back in time for swaying the direction the electorate will cast their vote. We in Britain were bought for a mere couple of pints of ale before this form of electioneering and vote rigging was declared illegal and stopped, at least the Yanks upped the ante slightly..

Trump's business acumen must be good for him to maintain and increase his personal fortune and it can only be good for their nation as they might see, if they take less notice of the gutter press and media.

A thinking person might pause to wonder why the Middle East refuses to take refugees that share the same or very similar cultures, given that there are vast swathes of the area which are able to sustain life and nearly all nations within that area have vast resources of petrochemical cash.

I'm getting fed up with all these people trying to stop deny democracy. Too many of them brought up in the "I can have anything I want" era. Half of them don't even bother to vote.

Like it or not, (Trump and or Brexit) democracy (the most cherished prize imo) has spoken. Live with it....and vote next time.

I agree with everything the three of you say. It is all getting positively ridiculous.  Then we know that organisations are already planning mass demonstrations and probably riots for when Trump comes to the UK. Why don't people start thinking about what is best for their/our country and stop all this carrying on.  It seems that there are so many people who will join in with anything to create uproar, fear and violence, whatever the cause. Any bandwagon will do, all flared up by the media

fuzeta wrote:I agree with everything the three of you say. It is all getting positively ridiculous.  Then we know that organisations are already planning mass demonstrations and probably riots for when Trump comes to the UK. Why don't people start thinking about what is best for their/our country and stop all this carrying on.  It seems that there are so many people who will join in with anything to create uproar, fear and violence, whatever the cause. Any bandwagon will do, all flared  up by the media

Yes fuzeta, the riots in the states are plainly being organised by the anti Trump media and as like as not backed by donations from many of the losing Democrats and their foreign backers. The same can probably be said for the protestors and opponents of Brexit. Many ex EU Ministers from the UK are investors in Europe and or drawing vast pensions from their time in Europe. They wouldn't want to see their supply of Golden Eggs dry up simply through a Democratic process being followed, a process which would kill their Golden Goose.

The answer is buy the media, because they'll print and or televise any garbage for money.

Ah Democracy, don't you just love it??

IMHO....

Good Morning all. Malena Stool's last paragraph is very telling. It is indeed on the face of it strange that refugees are making the perilous (to say the least) journey across the Med. rather than in many cases a much easier route to Saudi Arabia, or even Egypt, Morocco etc. Of course the Saudis are extremely isolationist, almost paranoid, but in this instance, the UN would be against them. The answer according to several respected organisations and writers is that Saudi Arabia is already Muslim land. The consensus is that while they are very understandably getting away from a war zone The preponderance of young single men, amounts to an invasion as a secondary consideration. The crime rate, specially of sex crime which has increased in such countries as Germany and Sweden seem to bolster their opinion. As for the media being against Trump, that is glaringly obvious, I'm not sure I understand why however. His stance against immigration is no more than Kennedy, Carter, Reagan, and even Obama did at various times, and in some cases went further, and no one said a word. They elected him, and now the left wing element carry posters saying Trump, not in my name. Whose name was it then? Ours!! The media in all countries is slanted as we know, and nothing is allowed to get in the way of a good story. Truth being usually the first casualty.