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Post  Guest on Thu 15 Mar - 7:36

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I wonder why now too - I think we need more information from Claudia as to why this has occurred now.

It's all happening Angelique but we are none the wiser. Having said that , isn't this the reason we are here, almost five years after the event trying to understand what's going on???? I think before we go to Bali, you and ann_chovey should start researching and sort out the chaff from the
wheat....we don't want to write a Book that isn't 100% factual or we will have youknowwho after us.

Yes I agree there is much to be done with the "sorting of chaff" - must warn you that writing this epic is almost as big a production as War And Peace! What is most worrying though is will we get our timelines right. I don't know - actually I thought I was carrying the bags!

Isn't there a handy kid's book that you can just rip up?

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Post  Justiceforallkids on Thu 15 Mar - 7:44

me thinks gerry and kate need to invest in some ultra absorbant depends!!!!!!!! lmao

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Post  Justiceforallkids on Thu 15 Mar - 7:46

it would make a brillant marketing ploy hahaha

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Re: Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately

Post  Panda on Thu 15 Mar - 8:48

NoStone wrote:
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Angelique wrote:Oh what joy!

How can I possibly wait 10 whole days for justice for Goncalo Amaral.

I fervently hope this is just one of many successes for him.

Morning Angelique It would have to be the Publisher who demands the return of the books, as I say, why now?

Morning Panda! I think this is brilliently timed by Amaral as he will have the books in time for the libel trail - but as he will not have time to sell them - not the money just in case.

Perhaps he is intending to hand out free copies at the libel trail - you know - leave one on every seat and a pile at the back for the press!!

What a message that would send out as well as being a 'good marketing ploy'

Morning NoStone.......As I have said many times, this case is like being on a rollercoaster-------I'm starting to feel sick.
The Publisher could have asked for the Books to be returned a Month after the injunction was lifted not wait so long, what the motive is I don't know. Could it be he thinks Amaral will not win his case and be able to publish his book in English so wants to sell the Books while there is interest in
the upcoming case? Or could it be a dastardly plot to undermine Duarte's image and by association the McCanns.????


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Post  quickfingers on Thu 15 Mar - 9:03

Maybe this was the little thing Amaral's lawyer has been working on that the McCanns wouldn't like? Like everything else it could have taken a while to go before the Judge again.

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Post  Guest on Thu 15 Mar - 9:06

quickfingers wrote:Maybe this was the little thing Amaral's lawyer has been working on that the McCanns wouldn't like? Like everything else it could have taken a while to go before the Judge again.


Yes, that mirrors my own thoughts .............. it's a well travelled path in warfare to keep one's powder dry. And if taking the wraps off now is a deliberate strategy, then it's a blinder.

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Post  cass on Thu 15 Mar - 9:21

someone said in the early days that when something is really gonna happen we will be swamped with stuff in the press from both sides , news to bury bad news . wonder if these dates for trial , ga and tb have been postponed because something is about to happen ?

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Post  Panda on Thu 15 Mar - 9:38

cass wrote:someone said in the early days that when something is really gonna happen we will be swamped with stuff in the press from both sides , news to bury bad news . wonder if these dates for trial , ga and tb have been postponed because something is about to happen ?

Morning Cas, I think it was TB who asked for a postponement to try to reach some agreement with CR on the charges.

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Re: Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately

Post  margaret on Thu 15 Mar - 9:54

The End Is Nigh wrote:
quickfingers wrote:Maybe this was the little thing Amaral's lawyer has been working on that the McCanns wouldn't like? Like everything else it could have taken a while to go before the Judge again.


Yes, that mirrors my own thoughts .............. it's a well travelled path in warfare to keep one's powder dry. And if taking the wraps off now is a deliberate strategy, then it's a blinder.

Yes Amaral said whatever they did caused 'panic' in the opposing side. And so it would be if they've destroyed those books....

Oh dear, it's all coming apart quite nicely.

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Post  Justiceforallkids on Thu 15 Mar - 9:58

margaret wrote:
The End Is Nigh wrote:
quickfingers wrote:Maybe this was the little thing Amaral's lawyer has been working on that the McCanns wouldn't like? Like everything else it could have taken a while to go before the Judge again.


Yes, that mirrors my own thoughts .............. it's a well travelled path in warfare to keep one's powder dry. And if taking the wraps off now is a deliberate strategy, then it's a blinder.

Yes Amaral said whatever they did caused 'panic' in the opposing side. And so it would be if they've destroyed those books....

Oh dear, it's all coming apart quite nicely.

do you think depends are in use at the mcann house today hahah?

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Post  margaret on Thu 15 Mar - 10:02

Justiceforallkids wrote:
do you think depends are in use at the mcann house today hahah?

I had to look it up as it's obviously an Australian product, but yes l think they will be.


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Re: Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately

Post  almostgothic on Thu 15 Mar - 10:02

Anyone in Lisbon spotted a vertically-challenged critter in a self-drive hired transit van yet?
Possibly heading towards the courthouse?

No?
Oh crumbs ......

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Re: Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately

Post  chrissie on Thu 15 Mar - 10:04

Fantastic news!

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Re: Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately

Post  Karen on Thu 15 Mar - 10:07

I have a vision of Isabel Duarte running around all over Portugal with a trolley desperately trying to find 7500 books!
my vision is funny - so lets all take a sec to vison it! SEE -
I have found a pic of a trolley with a clock (too funny) but DAMN cant paste not working!
KK is having a wonderful day! I hope you ALL are too good times ahead, Maddies beautiful flower I planted three years ago has started to bloom and Lord and Lady Kate are starting to fall!
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YAY !!!





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Re: Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately

Post  marxman on Thu 15 Mar - 10:07

I'm glad that Margaret has enlightened me
on what 'depends' are. I had no idea, nor
do I have use as yet!

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Post  Justiceforallkids on Thu 15 Mar - 10:10

margaret wrote:
Justiceforallkids wrote:
do you think depends are in use at the mcann house today hahah?

I had to look it up as it's obviously an Australian product, but yes l think they will be.


hahahahahahah they are incontinince pad

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Post  cass on Thu 15 Mar - 10:18

ah thanks i wondered too , they have taken that much immodium that their bodys are used to it so now plan b

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Post  Panda on Thu 15 Mar - 10:24

Iris wrote:
Angelique wrote:
Panda wrote:
Angelique wrote: Panda

I wonder why now too - I think we need more information from Claudia as to why this has occurred now.

It's all happening Angelique but we are none the wiser. Having said that , isn't this the reason we are here, almost five years after the event trying to understand what's going on???? I think before we go to Bali, you and ann_chovey should start researching and sort out the chaff from the
wheat....we don't want to write a Book that isn't 100% factual or we will have youknowwho after us.

Yes I agree there is much to be done with the "sorting of chaff" - must warn you that writing this epic is almost as big a production as War And Peace! What is most worrying though is will we get our timelines right. I don't know - actually I thought I was carrying the bags!

Isn't there a handy kid's book that you can just rip up?


OOOH you are awful-----but I like you.

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Post  duncanmac on Thu 15 Mar - 11:27

Hi Panda, what you gonna do with your time when this case gets solved ?

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Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 15 Mar - 11:59

cass wrote:ah thanks i wondered too , they have taken that much immodium that their bodys are used to it so now plan b

For plan B!


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Post  Justiceforallkids on Thu 15 Mar - 12:02

AnnaEsse wrote:
cass wrote:ah thanks i wondered too , they have taken that much immodium that their bodys are used to it so now plan b

For plan B!

they sell those here in ladies area of the supermarket if you get my drift hahaha

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Post  Carolina on Thu 15 Mar - 12:06

I see that no one remembers that Gonšalo Amaral filed a complaint against the McCanns and Isabel Duarte for not returning the books. His complaint is based on a breach of freedom of speech and the right to freedom of information as well as a breach of trust by someone who was to guarantee the safekeeping of public property as ordered by the court.

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Post  Guest on Thu 15 Mar - 12:10

I remember it - but the issue here is the timing. It could have been brought to fruition long ago but perhaps Amaral has been waiting for an occasion when the impact might appear greatest?

Or is it just that the wheels of Justice have been rotating very slowly?

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Post  margaret on Thu 15 Mar - 12:19

Carolina wrote:I see that no one remembers that Gonšalo Amaral filed a complaint against the McCanns and Isabel Duarte for not returning the books. His complaint is based on a breach of freedom of speech and the right to freedom of information as well as a breach of trust by someone who was to guarantee the safekeeping of public property as ordered by the court.

I remember that but didn't mention it because it's obvious that's why this order has come about??

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Re: Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately

Post  Chris on Thu 15 Mar - 12:20

JM has posted an update:

The Civil Court of Lisbon notified the McCanns' lawyer on Tuesday

Early on this week, the lawyer for Guerra & Paz book publishers said that the book copies were stored at a warehouse in the area of Matinha in Lisbon, and that, they should be returned as soon as there was a court order. The 1st Circuit of the Civil Court of Lisbon [the same court that had granted the initial injunction on September 9, 2009] has now notified, Isabel Duarte, the books' trustee, ordering her to return the books to Guerra & Paz, within 10 days.

in O Crime, paper edition, n║ 1546, pages 12 to 14, March 15, 2012


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