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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  chrissie1 on Sun 27 Oct - 22:50

Thank you AnnaEsse i cant do pictures

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  wjk on Sun 27 Oct - 22:53

Not a mention yet, on Sky press preview!

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Guest on Sun 27 Oct - 22:54

Remind me again, who owns the Star? Oh, that's right, Dirty Des. He who had to write an out-of-court settlement cheque for £1/2million. I knew he'd be wanting his money back. Looks like the gloves are off now  

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Karen on Sun 27 Oct - 22:59

WATCH!  at 1.45sec Gerrys face super imposed onto E-Fit pics
http://www.rtve.es/m/alacarta/videos/telediario/scotland-yard-cree-desaparicion-madeleine-mccan-fue-secuestro-planificado/2066428/?media=tve

https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQALXFK6kHdB_VfR&w=210&h=210&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi56.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff56%2F15%2F39%2F31%2F41%2Fgerry11.jpg


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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Guest on Sun 27 Oct - 23:05

No wonder they didn't want it released!

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Post  malena stool on Sun 27 Oct - 23:14

It's definitely all going South at a great rate of knots, this really is a challenge for the pink one to pick up and run with. A little bit different from the glory days of "Send your donations in an envelope marked to Kate and Gerry, at Rothley ," eh Clarence....


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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  tanszi on Sun 27 Oct - 23:15

I was watching that and I was expecting it but I went WHOA ....... that was so scary

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  interested on Sun 27 Oct - 23:17

malena stool wrote:It's definitely all going South at a great rate of knots, this really is a challenge for the pink one to pick up and run with. A little bit different from the glory days of "Send your donations in an envelope marked to Kate and Gerry, at Rothley ," eh Clarence....



I wonder what the good people of Brighton think about the new revelations and Mitchell's relationship with the McCanns.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  tanszi on Sun 27 Oct - 23:19

I wonder what the fundraiser in chief and the tortoise are doing, bet theres going to be a special meeting, wonder if there ll be any more revelation moments,

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  malena stool on Sun 27 Oct - 23:26

Doug Skehan will be saying his prayers and thanking his guardian angel tonight that he upped and left the fund when he did..

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  jinvta on Sun 27 Oct - 23:31

This could very well be the end of the fund, and possibly lead to a class action suit asking for well-intended donations to be returned. If I were a retired solicitor, I might be inclined to take up such a case.

Think about this, which scenario makes the McCanns look worse?

1) Madeleine died in apt 5A whilst being neglected, given that Madeleine was dead, the McCanns decided to cover up her death in order to avoid prosecution

2) Madeleine was in fact abducted from apt 5A, and possibly still alive, yet the McCanns continued to lie about the checks and to try to make the evidence fit the Tanner sighting, even though Madeleine was still out there, their efforts to manipulate the investigation hindered the search so that now she is most likely dead

Neither scenario paints them in a good light. IMO, 1 is more forgiveable than 2, because their lies have no effect on the possible return of Madeleine. However, 2 in unconscionable, as it proves to all that the McCanns were more concerned about themselves and their reputations than bringing home their own daughter.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  interested on Mon 28 Oct - 1:05

I wonder what Tony Bennett has to say about the revelations.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  winjoy on Mon 28 Oct - 1:06

Iris wrote:Winjoy, they are like Rottweilers on that entry, and anything even remotely damaging to the abduction theory is simply strangled at birth.  It's been like that from day one.
I have had some contact with "SlimVirgin" on Wikipedia and the upshot is that my entry (somewhat watered down) has remained on the Wikipedia page, along with a link to the Sunday Times article in the reference section. A small victory perhaps?!

The following is what is now on the Madeleine McCann Wikipedia page:

Oakley International, a US-based private-investigation agency, was hired for six months in 2008.[113] The investigators were led by Henri Exton, a former British police officer who had worked on undercover operations for M15, the British domestic intelligence service.[113] They produced a report, but according to the Sunday Times the relationship between the McCanns and Oakley broke down, and Exton said the McCanns' lawyers told him the report should remain confidential. It included e-fit images that Oakley produced based on the report from the Smith family about a man they saw carrying a child that night.[40] The images were not released by Madeleine's Fund or included with other artists' impressions in Kate McCann's book about the case, published in 2011.[114]

151. ^ Jump up to: a b c d Heidi Blake and Jonathan Calvert, "Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years", The Sunday Times, 27 October 2013.




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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  kitti on Mon 28 Oct - 7:01

They are saying that the PJ had the efits too....wait for the backlash and pj bashing...

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 28 Oct - 7:08

Karen wrote:WATCH!  at 1.45sec Gerrys face super imposed onto E-Fit pics
http://www.rtve.es/m/alacarta/videos/telediario/scotland-yard-cree-desaparicion-madeleine-mccan-fue-secuestro-planificado/2066428/?media=tve

https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQALXFK6kHdB_VfR&w=210&h=210&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi56.servimg.com%2Fu%2Ff56%2F15%2F39%2F31%2F41%2Fgerry11.jpg
I've just watched. Kate McCann looks haggard and emotionally wiped out in a way she never looked when Maddie disappeared. In May 2007 and most of the time since then her face has been well made-up, hair perfect and no signs of stress.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  flower on Mon 28 Oct - 7:21

Srill no mention on Breafast News ........ Terrible..........

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  Chris on Mon 28 Oct - 7:32

flower wrote:Srill no mention on Breafast News ........ Terrible..........

The tabloids are picking it up though


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2478087/Why-Maddie-suspect-E-fits-kept-secret-years-Images-evidence-sighting-uncovered-private-detectives-suppressed.html

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/347672/Maddie-Crimewatch-pictures-kept-secret-for-five-years

The only new bit seems to be:

The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell was unavailable for comment.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  mossman on Mon 28 Oct - 8:35

Chris wrote:

The only new bit seems to be:

The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell was unavailable for comment.




And THAT is the most significant development this week ! Poor Clarrie not even a comment to say he is not going to dignify the articles with a comment. Bet he wishes he stayed on the Costa Concordia now.

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Post  malena stool on Mon 28 Oct - 8:51

Poor old Clarrie will be swimming against the tide to give an 'innocent and normal explanation' for this recent and damning exposure of his client's actions. Certainly his 'unable to give out information because of operational procedure' BS is long past its sell by date.....


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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  jinvta on Mon 28 Oct - 16:15

kitti wrote:They are saying that the PJ had the efits  too....wait for the backlash and pj bashing...
Where did it say that the PJ had the efits too? I must have missed that. If the PJ had the efits, they probably knew that they were useless, just as the Tanner bundleman/eggman efit that the McCanns insisted on doing.

Still think that it is possible that these "efits" were done without any help of witnesses and based on vague descriptions from the Smith family witness statements. If true, SY will be the ones looking like keystone coppers.

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Post  Lioned on Mon 28 Oct - 16:29

If the freak was responsible for suppressing these E fits and hindering the search for a missing child then he is in serious shit.
Mitchell is in this up to his neck and will need to think about protecting his sorry arse now.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  kitti on Mon 28 Oct - 16:33

I have been trying to find that bit but it seems to off gone missing....

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  kitti on Mon 28 Oct - 17:33


The e-fits were in the possession of both Portuguese police and Scotland Yard for some years before this month's publication.


Paper in Australia.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  kitti on Mon 28 Oct - 17:34

Can't see how they had them as the mccanns P.I.s had them locked away in the files....and it was them and the mccanns who were the only ones that knew about it.

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Re: Madeleine clues hidden for 5 years - The Sunday Times

Post  mossman on Mon 28 Oct - 17:37

jinvta wrote:
kitti wrote:They are saying that the PJ had the efits  too....wait for the backlash and pj bashing...
Where did it say that the PJ had the efits too? I must have missed that. If the PJ had the efits, they probably knew that they were useless, just as the Tanner bundleman/eggman efit that the McCanns insisted on doing.

Still think that it is possible that these "efits" were done without any help of witnesses and based on vague descriptions from the Smith family witness statements. If true, SY will be the ones looking like keystone coppers.


I agree jinvta.

But let's pretend the PJ were given the e fits. So what ? It was not a live investigation, they could not have been given them before they shelved the case, so what did they do wrong ? Nothing as far as I can see.

No matter what spin they put on it, the parents had information and they did not release it to the public.

God knows Kate was able to tell us about her and Gerrys bed time difficulties, so they certainly kept us informed of things I would rather not know. Think I would have been more interested in the e fits.

So they can blame the PJ, blame the bad man who took Madeleine, blame anyone they want, but it is their fault. They know that too.


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