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Post  Guest on Tue 6 Apr - 14:28

Two women have been arrested after they allegedly tried to smuggle their dead relative on to a passenger plane.

The corpse was pushed in on a wheelchair - complete with sunglasses - to try to fool staff at the check in desk at Liverpool John Lennon Airport, it is claimed.
The man's body had been driven to the airport in a taxi after the women told the driver he was asleep.


Arrests: Two women were questioned over an alleged attempt to smuggle a corpse through Liverpool John Lennon Airport (file picture)

But as his two companions attempted to check the dead man in for a flight to Berlin on Saturday, staff became suspicious and alerted the authorities.
The two women were arrested at the scene.
It is understood the 91-year-old German national had died a day earlier, and an attempt was being made to smuggle his body back to his homeland.
A source said: 'The airport staff at the check in were not happy with the situation.
The women, aged 44 and 66, are currently being questioned 'on suspicion of failing to give notification of a death'.
The body was brought to the airport from a house in Oldham.
An airport source said: 'They tried to get him in by a wheelchair. He was wearing sunglasses.
'He was dead before they got him in the taxi and he had been dead for a day.'
The cab driver is said to have been left 'upset and devastated' after being informed.
It is believed the two women attempted to smuggle the body back to avoid repatriation fees, which can be as much as £3,000.
Merseyside Police confirmed the man was dead on arrival at the airport.
A spokesman said: 'We are investigating the circumstances surrounding the death of a 91-year-old German male passenger at JLA, due to fly out to Berlin on Saturday.
'Two people are helping police with their enquiries.
'We are still investigating the exact circumstances of the death, but don't believe it is murder or manslaughter at this stage.'
Greater Manchester Police (GMP) became involved because the family are from Oldham.
A GMP spokesperson said: 'At 11am on April 3, police at JLA alerted us to the death of a 91-year-old male in the airport building.
'Two women, aged 41 and 66, are helping police with enquiries on suspicion of failing to give notification of a death.'
The airport remained open throughout the incident and a JLA spokesperson said: 'We are co-operating with police in their investigation.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263886/Two-women-caught-trying-smuggle-dead-relative-plane-Liverpool-airport.html#ixzz0kKIFW2rg

I hope that we can rule out the same thng having happened to poor wee Madeleine.

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Post  pennylane on Tue 6 Apr - 14:32

Yes I saw that earlier today.

Isn't it grim the lengths some people will go to - in order to relocate their dead relatives?

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Post  Guest on Tue 6 Apr - 14:38

How come it costs £3000 for repatriation fees?

I wonder how they thought they would ever get away with it.

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Post  Claudia79 on Tue 6 Apr - 14:39

That made the news here too and I have to say that the first time I saw it, I didn't know if I should laugh or cry. I then read that the body was in a wheelchair and wearing sunglasses and couldn't avoid thinking about a hit film from my childhood: "Weekend at Bernie's".
What goes through someone's mind to attempt this?

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Post  Guest on Tue 6 Apr - 14:51

desperation maybe?

three grand is a lot to find.

I wonder if anyone has done it before.

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Post  FSoares on Tue 6 Apr - 14:53

What a ridiculous attempt to avoid the legal procedures to send a corpse to another country!

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Post  Guest on Tue 6 Apr - 15:04

Minsky wrote:How come it costs £3000 for repatriation fees?

I wonder how they thought they would ever get away with it.

An example can be found here.

http://www.havenfunerals.com/repatcosts.html

where a basic cost is in excess of £2,000 using the cheapest metal-lined (obligatory) coffin.

As you can see there are other potential funeral director fees as well.

VAT must also be added to the figures shown in that price list.

Also there will be a need for authorised translation of the death certificate.

£3,000 is a very reasonable estimate - I was involved in the arrangements for a repatriation back to the UK some years ago which cost more than that.


Last edited by jjp on Tue 6 Apr - 16:10; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : to add comment about VAT)

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Post  Guest on Tue 6 Apr - 15:10

FSoares wrote:What a ridiculous attempt to avoid the legal procedures to send a corpse to another country!

Perhaps these two people attempting to repatriate the elderly man's body were worried about dealing with foreign authorities, foreign police etc. and decided to attempt to deal with the situation in their own way?

Any possible resemblance to the McCann case in that?

On the other hand - maybe they were just not prepared or able to face the financial penalties that death abroad brings. Insurance may or may not cover the costs (presuming you have insurance) but you will almost always have to pay out first and reclaim for these fees. Maybe they just didn't have the cash and were desperate?

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Post  Eve on Tue 6 Apr - 15:58



what a thing to have happen, I have never heard of anything like that happening, it just goes to show you doesn't it, they must have had some nerve to do that, some pople will do anthing it seems

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Post  margaret on Tue 6 Apr - 16:03

Claudia79 wrote:That made the news here too and I have to say that the first time I saw it, I didn't know if I should laugh or cry. I then read that the body was in a wheelchair and wearing sunglasses and couldn't avoid thinking about a hit film from my childhood: "Weekend at Bernie's".
What goes through someone's mind to attempt this?

I haven't seen the film but l thought similair to you should l laugh or say WTF? I don't know how they thought they were going to get away with it especially when they protested he was merely 'asleep'


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Post  Wallflower on Tue 6 Apr - 16:07

jjp wrote:
FSoares wrote:What a ridiculous attempt to avoid the legal procedures to send a corpse to another country!

Perhaps these two people attempting to repatriate the elderly man's body were worried about dealing with foreign authorities, foreign police etc. and decided to attempt to deal with the situation in their own way?

Any possible resemblance to the McCann case in that?

On the other hand - maybe they were just not prepared or able to face the financial penalties that death abroad brings. Insurance may or may not cover the costs (presuming you have insurance) but you will almost always have to pay out first and reclaim for these fees. Maybe they just didn't have the cash and were desperate?

Well £3000 is a lot of money for some people. I feel a bit sorry for them.

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Post  FSoares on Tue 6 Apr - 16:20

jjp wrote:
FSoares wrote:What a ridiculous attempt to avoid the legal procedures to send a corpse to another country!

Perhaps these two people attempting to repatriate the elderly man's body were worried about dealing with foreign authorities, foreign police etc. and decided to attempt to deal with the situation in their own way?

Any possible resemblance to the McCann case in that?

On the other hand - maybe they were just not prepared or able to face the financial penalties that death abroad brings. Insurance may or may not cover the costs (presuming you have insurance) but you will almost always have to pay out first and reclaim for these fees. Maybe they just didn't have the cash and were desperate?

My first bet is that the problem was mainly financial. It really costs a lot to send a coffin with a corpse to another country, and some families do not have the money. However what they did was very risky. Now an authopsy is going to take place to determine the cause of death. Even if death was due to natural causes, and this attempt was to repatriate the body to Germany without having to pay the necessary fees, they will now face charges. One thing they probably forgot is that the death needs to be checked in order a funeral takes place - this is a part of all the formalities. The news state the person was already dead for 24 hours. How were they going to explain this death in Germany?

We'll probably need to wait for more developments to have a better picture about this story. No doubt this is bizarre.

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Post  tanszi on Tue 6 Apr - 17:23

Cant imagine this, it would be funny if it was in a film, but it isnt its real life. Perhaps they didnt have the money, but to try and get a dead person on a plane, what about rigor mortis, had it been and gone, and the hygiene and metabolic aspects are too awful to contemplate. Much worse, what if they had succeeded and you were sat by this dead man.

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Post  Guest on Tue 6 Apr - 20:00

Just heard a very brief report of the local news on BBC TV. It seems the family of the man who was actually dead are claiming that they genuinely believed that he was asleep.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 6 Apr - 20:04

jjp wrote:Just heard a very brief report of the local news on BBC TV. It seems the family of the man who was actually dead are claiming that they genuinely believed that he was asleep.

For 24 hours, hadn't budged, got a bit stiff for a while, didn't move at all when being shifted to the wheelchair, was kinda floppy by then and a funny colour? Yea right!

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Post  Guest on Tue 6 Apr - 20:06

jjp wrote:Just heard a very brief report of the local news on BBC TV. It seems the family of the man who was actually dead are claiming that they genuinely believed that he was asleep.

He must have been the quiet type.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 6 Apr - 20:07

Minsky wrote:
jjp wrote:Just heard a very brief report of the local news on BBC TV. It seems the family of the man who was actually dead are claiming that they genuinely believed that he was asleep.

He must have been the quiet type.

Or maybe he'd been a grumpy old git and they were so glad to have some peace, they didn't look too closely!

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Post  Claudia79 on Tue 6 Apr - 20:07

jjp wrote:Just heard a very brief report of the local news on BBC TV. It seems the family of the man who was actually dead are claiming that they genuinely believed that he was asleep.

That's even more unbelievable than they actually trying to out the dead man on a flight!

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Post  Guest on Tue 6 Apr - 20:28

Women try to take body on plane at Liverpool airport

Police have arrested two women after they tried to take the body of a dead relative on to a plane at Liverpool John Lennon Airport.

Staff became suspicious when they tried to check in 91-year-old Curt Willi Jarant, who was wearing sunglasses, for a flight to Berlin on Saturday.

The women - his widow and step-daughter - said they thought he was asleep.

They were arrested on suspicion of failing to give notification of a death, police said.

The pair, who are German nationals but live in Oldham, Greater Manchester, have been released on bail until 1 June.

It is understood they took Mr Jarant to the airport in a taxi.

'Moving and breathing'

Asked to describe her late husband, who she called Willi, Gitta Jarant said: "[He was] the best man of the world - good man.

"I [did not] kill my Willi. My Willi is my god. I [have loved] my Willi for 22 years."

Mr Jarant's step-daughter Anke Anusic added: "They would think that for 24 hours we would carry a dead person? This is ridiculous. He was moving, he was breathing. Eight people saw him."

Anke Anusic: "Of course we did not know he was dead"



Ms Anusic said her step-father, who suffered from Alzheimer's, had been treated in hospital for pneumonia.

They had waited until he was better before booking a ticket to travel to his native Germany.

"He was released from hospital. He was fine. If he was not fine the hospital wouldn't release him," she said.

And she insisted that with his eyes closed they believed he was asleep.

"He was alive. He was pale but he wasn't dead," Ms Anusic added.

"A dead person you cannot carry to Germany, there are too many people checking and security. How can you bring a dead person to Germany?"

A member of staff at Broadway Cars in Oldham, who asked not to be named, confirmed the private hire company had taken the passengers to Liverpool but declined to comment further, saying it was "a big deal" for the business.

A spokesman for Liverpool John Lennon Airport said: "In view of the fact that this incident is currently under police investigation and we understand arrests have been made, we cannot comment any further at this stage.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8604663.stm

eta - late night BBC local news just stated that the repatriation would cost around £4,000.

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Post  lynn on Wed 7 Apr - 0:24

Not too intelligent could be the tag the two ladies will have. Obviously rigor mortis had not set in and had they got away with it he would have sat well in the plane seat. What a story. Madeleine could very well have been taken away on a plane, a private one though. She was not that small really, but would have fit into a suitcase or large shoulder bag. Hope not.

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