Important message from Elie Wiesel and others concerned about Ahmadinejad
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Important message from Elie Wiesel and others concerned about Ahmadinejad
For the sake of those who died in the Holocaust he denies,
For the sake of those who would die in the Holocaust he threatens,
For the sake of all who could be victims of future genocides.
http://www.cufi.org/site/PageServer?pagename=PetitionUN_ProsecuteAhmadinejad2010
Re: Important message from Elie Wiesel and others concerned about Ahmadinejad
I have an American friend (well I use the word loosely now ) she thinks the Holocaust happened but it was exaggerated.
Shit there are still survivors out there, are there not? Kitty Hart etc. How can normal, intelligent people deny this happened??
Shit there are still survivors out there, are there not? Kitty Hart etc. How can normal, intelligent people deny this happened??
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Re: Important message from Elie Wiesel and others concerned about Ahmadinejad
fred wrote:I have an American friend (well I use the word loosely now ) she thinks the Holocaust happened but it was exaggerated.
Shit there are still survivors out there, are there not? Kitty Hart etc. How can normal, intelligent people deny this happened??
Elie Wiesel is a survivor.
My father was with the British troops that, "relieved," (don't know why they use that word) Belsen at the end of the war. He spoke about it only once in the 1960s when we had watched a film on TV. All those years later, my father cried for what he had seen of human degradation and the dreadful pits full of bodies. It makes me very sad to hear people try to persuade that the atrocities did not happen. Very sad indeed for all those people who died and all those people who survived and whose suffering is denied.
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this guy is a nutter. even some of the ayatollahs are scared of him. the iranian middle class think he's a peasant; he is. as soon as he poses a real danger the israelis will take him out and there's feck all the americans can do to stop it.
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I watched his speech and was just thinking he was not the madman everyone supposes and then he comes out with the remark about the Holocaust!!!
Having said that, we all know Israel has been the eyes and ears of the U.S.A. in return for loadsa money to pay for the expansion of Israel to the detriment of Palestine. This problem will never be resolved and Britain made the biggest mistake in giving land from Palestine to Israel after the War to start a Settlement. The Palestininians had occupied that area for over a thousand years which was bound to create conflict
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Re: Important message from Elie Wiesel and others concerned about Ahmadinejad
To all intents and purposes he is a reincarnation of Hitler Marky, anyone who believes he wants those reactors for peaceful purposes is deluded.......Marky wrote:this guy is a nutter. even some of the ayatollahs are scared of him. the iranian middle class think he's a peasant; he is. as soon as he poses a real danger the israelis will take him out and there's feck all the americans can do to stop it.
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malena stool wrote:To all intents and purposes he is a reincarnation of Hitler Marky, anyone who believes he wants those reactors for peaceful purposes is deluded.......Marky wrote:this guy is a nutter. even some of the ayatollahs are scared of him. the iranian middle class think he's a peasant; he is. as soon as he poses a real danger the israelis will take him out and there's feck all the americans can do to stop it.
you hit that nail square on. he's already vowed to take israel out. it's only a matter of time until someone does something about him. hopefully that will be from within.
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Let's hope it does come from within,the last thing we need here in the west is yet another middle eastern war in which we are involved. Bloody good job Blair is out of the picture as far as decisions to send British troops to spill more blood so he can get another American decoration. Although a Fred Karno regime like Ahmadinejad is fronting shouldn't be allowed to play wax crayons let alone nuclear technology in order to threaten world peace.Marky wrote:malena stool wrote:To all intents and purposes he is a reincarnation of Hitler Marky, anyone who believes he wants those reactors for peaceful purposes is deluded.......Marky wrote:this guy is a nutter. even some of the ayatollahs are scared of him. the iranian middle class think he's a peasant; he is. as soon as he poses a real danger the israelis will take him out and there's feck all the americans can do to stop it.
you hit that nail square on. he's already vowed to take israel out. it's only a matter of time until someone does something about him. hopefully that will be from within.
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Re: Important message from Elie Wiesel and others concerned about Ahmadinejad
I have been asked on a number of occasions how we know exactly how many people died in the Holocaust.
And the answer to that is, from the Nazis' own records They were meticulous record keepers. Everything was logged and written up. And it was their own records that went on to condemn them. The figure of six million has nothing to do with Israel, or the UN, or anybody else. It was from the Nazis' very own calculations.
So when President Madman, or Nick Griffin, or anyone else, disputes that figure, they are simply displaying their own ignorance.
And the answer to that is, from the Nazis' own records They were meticulous record keepers. Everything was logged and written up. And it was their own records that went on to condemn them. The figure of six million has nothing to do with Israel, or the UN, or anybody else. It was from the Nazis' very own calculations.
So when President Madman, or Nick Griffin, or anyone else, disputes that figure, they are simply displaying their own ignorance.
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The Famous Grouse wrote:I have been asked on a number of occasions how we know exactly how many people died in the Holocaust.
And the answer to that is, from the Nazis' own records They were meticulous record keepers. Everything was logged and written up. And it was their own records that went on to condemn them. The figure of six million has nothing to do with Israel, or the UN, or anybody else. It was from the Nazis' very own calculations.
So when President Madman, or Nick Griffin, or anyone else, disputes that figure, they are simply displaying their own ignorance.
President Madman? That's appropriate I think. I used to refer to him as 'President I'm a dinner jacket,' but stopped because I realised that I was trivialising every evil thing he stands for. I don't have a way of understanding such evil.
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AnnaEsse wrote:The Famous Grouse wrote:I have been asked on a number of occasions how we know exactly how many people died in the Holocaust.
And the answer to that is, from the Nazis' own records They were meticulous record keepers. Everything was logged and written up. And it was their own records that went on to condemn them. The figure of six million has nothing to do with Israel, or the UN, or anybody else. It was from the Nazis' very own calculations.
So when President Madman, or Nick Griffin, or anyone else, disputes that figure, they are simply displaying their own ignorance.
President Madman? That's appropriate I think. I used to refer to him as 'President I'm a dinner jacket,' but stopped because I realised that I was trivialising every evil thing he stands for. I don't have a way of understanding such evil.
there is no way rational people can understand it but they have to have the courage to deal with it when it arises. however, too many of our young don't see it that way. stop the war and all that...
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I have several Iranian students and they invariably loathe Pres. Dinner Plate.
The irony being he was born of Jewish ancestry.
However, if Israel invades or attacks Iran, the middle east will go up in flames.
Israel will be facing a well prepared army and air-force, not a bunch of phosphorus bombed civilians as there was in Gaza.
They may well have 200 nukes or more, but I doubt the USA will sanction their use and they are the paymasters after all.
And Netanahyu and Lieberman are not exactly in the real world.
Then these two are stupid and arrogant enough.
The irony being he was born of Jewish ancestry.
However, if Israel invades or attacks Iran, the middle east will go up in flames.
Israel will be facing a well prepared army and air-force, not a bunch of phosphorus bombed civilians as there was in Gaza.
They may well have 200 nukes or more, but I doubt the USA will sanction their use and they are the paymasters after all.
And Netanahyu and Lieberman are not exactly in the real world.
Then these two are stupid and arrogant enough.
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