Michael Jackson's doctor found guilty

I dont really think that Conrad murray whether he sells his story or what he does to make money will end up a rich man as their are Two or maybe more lawsuits against him which will cost him millions.


It just goes to prove , if you sell your soul to the devil for money, it's only a matter off time till the devil comes knocking at your door.


Some people should remember that.

Michael Jackson would have killed himself eventually as he was a junky imo. I agree with all that has been said here... this conviction was the right one.

I thought Conrad Murray's defence team were useless and out of their depth however.

kitti wrote:I dont really think that Conrad murray whether he sells his story or what he does to make money will end up a rich man as their are Two or maybe more lawsuits against him which will cost him millions.


It just goes to prove , if you sell your soul to the devil for money, it's only a matter off time till the devil comes knocking at your door.


Some people should remember that.

Too true Kitti

Panda wrote:

kitti wrote:I dont really think that Conrad murray whether he sells his story or what he does to make money will end up a rich man as their are Two or maybe more lawsuits against him which will cost him millions.


It just goes to prove , if you sell your soul to the devil for money, it's only a matter off time till the devil comes knocking at your door.


Some people should remember that.

Too true Kitti

Let's hope another cardiologist gets his comeuppance too... along with his Mrs!

pennylane wrote:

Panda wrote:

kitti wrote:I dont really think that Conrad murray whether he sells his story or what he does to make money will end up a rich man as their are Two or maybe more lawsuits against him which will cost him millions.


It just goes to prove , if you sell your soul to the devil for money, it's only a matter off time till the devil comes knocking at your door.


Some people should remember that.

Too true Kitti

Let's hope another cardiologist gets his comeuppance too... along with his Mrs!

You won"t rest will you Pennylane until the McCanns are locked up in a cell and the key thrown away.

I have been reading comments about Conrad Murray looking miserable every day whilst in court. I have to say that if I was on trial for murder I would have looked pretty miserable myself

As a ardent fan of MJ I would like to say in his defence that he suffered from Vitiligo - a condition which causes the skin to 'whiten' in patches and he was receiving treatment for this from Dr Klein which was mentioned during the trial. MJ used cream to even out the effects. I don't know for sure but I also think that he dyed is hair because this condition also makes the hair white.

I watched as much of the Trial as I could and think Dr. Murray was in some ways a victim as well. He started working for MJ and enthused to his girl friends about it and then succumbed I suppose to requests for Propofol

MJ had a very traumatised childhood and only seemed to be happy being creative.

I did feel on seeing his family attending Court that they had benefitted from MJ - it is sad they couldn't help him and support him when he most needed it.

But I can understand other posters views about his life.

Propofal was the reason that Conrad got the job......if he had said NO like the other doctors did, he wouldn't be languishing in prison today .


No way is Conrad a victim....Conrad is a lier and greedy....self preservation was his no.1 priority the night that Michael Jackson died.


He gave up all his other patients, tossed them aside midway through there recuperation after major heart surgery, and for what......150,000 per month ....he thought his christmases had come all at once.

Panda wrote:

pennylane wrote:

Panda wrote:

kitti wrote:I dont really think that Conrad murray whether he sells his story or what he does to make money will end up a rich man as their are Two or maybe more lawsuits against him which will cost him millions.


It just goes to prove , if you sell your soul to the devil for money, it's only a matter off time till the devil comes knocking at your door.


Some people should remember that.

Too true Kitti

Let's hope another cardiologist gets his comeuppance too... along with his Mrs!

You won"t rest will you Pennylane until the McCanns are locked up in a cell and the key thrown away.

Panda,

It is my opinion that both of these cardiologists are charlatans, and probably far worse if the entire truth be known . And you are absolutely right, I won't rest until justice for Madeleine is done, and Karma has paid a long overdue visit to the gruesome twosome.

pennylane wrote:

Panda wrote:

pennylane wrote:

Panda wrote:

kitti wrote:I dont really think that Conrad murray whether he sells his story or what he does to make money will end up a rich man as their are Two or maybe more lawsuits against him which will cost him millions.


It just goes to prove , if you sell your soul to the devil for money, it's only a matter off time till the devil comes knocking at your door.


Some people should remember that.

Too true Kitti

Let's hope another cardiologist gets his comeuppance too... along with his Mrs!

You won"t rest will you Pennylane until the McCanns are locked up in a cell and the key thrown away.

Panda,

It is my opinion that both of these cardiologists are charlatans, and probably far worse if the entire truth be known . And you are absolutely right, I won't rest until justice for Madeleine is done, and Karma has paid a long overdue visit to the gruesome twosome.

If Amaral wins the case in February, it will be the beginning of the end for the McCanns pennylane,whether they are charged with anything
is debatable, but certainly their reputations will be ruined when the greater public learns the facts .

Panda wrote:

pennylane wrote:

Panda wrote:

pennylane wrote:

Panda wrote:

Too true Kitti

Let's hope another cardiologist gets his comeuppance too... along with his Mrs!

You won"t rest will you Pennylane until the McCanns are locked up in a cell and the key thrown away.

Panda,

It is my opinion that both of these cardiologists are charlatans, and probably far worse if the entire truth be known . And you are absolutely right, I won't rest until justice for Madeleine is done, and Karma has paid a long overdue visit to the gruesome twosome.

If Amaral wins the case in February, it will be the beginning of the end for the McCanns pennylane,whether they are charged with anything
is debatable, but certainly their reputations will be ruined when the greater public learns the facts .

Panda, let's pray this is the case.

It's enough already.... of this pair and their high priced team making a mockery of all that is honest, sacred and meaningful in society. It is these types of people that are running, and indeed ruining this country, with their deception and lies.

Pennylane, I despair of the corruption in Politics around the World and while the U.S. has it"s faults, at least it is trying to do something about it. Will we ever know what influence the McCanns had over Tony Blair , Gordon Brown and now David Cameron , plus a liver lillied Press and
a FOIA which means nothing.

There's a programme about Conrad Murray as above; rather short notice but no doubt it will be available afterwards on Channel 4 on Demand.

10pm,it is on

I heard on Piers Morgan today that Murray had made some sort of film about Michael Jackson, and was apparently concluding it while the trial was under way. He has no doubt been paid a fortune for it. It was very suspicious how he came to have a drugged Michael Jackson on tape too, so it looks like he had been collecting stuff for future financial use too. Very sleazy man imo.

On Frank Skinners show tonight he showed a clip of the Lawyers after the Trial , with Murray looking on. The Judge and Defence and
Plaintiff Lawyers were trying to set a convenient date for all three to be available, checking their Diaries and eventually deciding that the 29th
was conveneient for all three of them. In the meantime Murray is just sitting there listening to these people and a Judge who will decide his
sentence , it was quite surreal and laughable.

Me.....me.....woe is me.....Conrad murray last night.



'Michael jackson trapped me'


'Michael Jackson was a drug addict'

He called Michael Jackson....Michael Jackson.


Michael Jackson called him.....dr. Murray..


Friends?


Crying.....for himself.


He earned over 750,000 and YET his mansion was repossessed!

He was already in debt BEFORE he became MJ doctor.

Where was his previous earnings going...what was his earnings being spent on when he was working for MJ cos it sure wasn't being spent on his children.

The defense lawyers .....'all the time spent on getting guilty people off and we may now not get an innocent man off'.....what a weird thing to say!


Praying for himself....


All through the interview he was blaming MJ for getting him into the mess when all the time he could off said NO.

Lying about a conversation.....he could off took the stand to defend himself....but he refused.

Blaming the bodyguard....despicable man.

Morning Kitti,

He looked a right misery all through the Trial and arrogant. Was the $750,000 from all his patients or just what he was paid by Michael Jackson?

I do wonder why no one in the Household phoned Maichaels parents when they could see what was happening.

Panda wrote:Morning Kitti,

He looked a right misery all through the Trial and arrogant. Was the $750,000 from all his patients or just what he was paid by Michael Jackson?

I do wonder why no one in the Household phoned Maichaels parents when they could see what was happening.

Good morning Panda

It was the same with Elvis Presley. These 'stars' get themselves surrounded by 'yes' people and sycophants, and anyone who doesn't play the game is booted out fast. Sadly, money talks. Michael Jackson even asked the 'guru to the stars' Deepak Chopra for drugs when he visited his house, saying he had back pain or something similar, and Deepak told him there were plenty of natural ways to help him, but MJ wasn't interested in this direction. This was some years back, and I am pretty sure MJ asked many, many others too.

Dr Klein's another doctor that was prescribing copious amounts of drugs when Michael met his demise. He was the 'specialist' who diagnosed Jackson's Vitiligo.... I am not convinced by this diagnoses! It may have been cooked up to allow Jackson to get copious amounts of demerol (or whatever the drug of choice was). Any patchiness on Michael's skin was probably due to whitening agents (jmho). I also believe Dr Klein is the father of the two oldest of Michael's children. Debbie Row his once upon a time receptionist, is the mother.


Doctor Conrad Murray is grotesque, and the verdict is the right one.

Here's the link for the programme.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-man-who-killed-michael-jackson/4od#3258873

I think that it can be accessed outside of the U K unlike BBC programmes.

Not Born Yesterday wrote:There's a programme about Conrad Murray as above; rather short notice but no doubt it will be available afterwards on Channel 4 on Demand.

Thanks for advising of this show NBY and Badboy xx

I managed to tape it just in time.

pennylane wrote:

Panda wrote:Morning Kitti,

He looked a right misery all through the Trial and arrogant. Was the $750,000 from all his patients or just what he was paid by Michael Jackson?

I do wonder why no one in the Household phoned Maichaels parents when they could see what was happening.

Good morning Panda

It was the same with Elvis Presley. These 'stars' get themselves surrounded by 'yes' people and sycophants, and anyone who doesn't play the game is booted out fast. Sadly, money talks. Michael Jackson even asked the 'guru to the stars' Deepak Chopra for drugs when he visited his house, saying he had back pain or something similar, and Deepak told him there were plenty of natural ways to help him, but MJ wasn't interested in this direction. This was some years back, and I am pretty sure MJ asked many, many others too.

Dr Klein's another doctor that was prescribing copious amounts of drugs when Michael met his demise. He was the 'specialist' who diagnosed Jackson's Vitiligo.... I am not convinced by this diagnoses! It may have been cooked up to allow Jackson to get copious amounts of demerol (or whatever the drug of choice was). Any patchiness on Michael's skin was probably due to whitening agents (jmho). I also believe Dr Klein is the father of the two oldest of Michael's children. Debbie Row his once upon a time receptionist, is the mother.


Doctor Conrad Murray is grotesque, and the verdict is the right one.

I agree Penny Lane. I don't know of any medical condition which could change the colour of a person's skin in its entirety. I hadn't heard before about Dr Klein possibly being the biological father of the first two children. There are various bizarre stories going round like the one in the link about former child star Mark Lester and it does mention Dr Klein.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1206715/Is-ex-husband-Mark-Lester-father-Jackos-children-No-hes-completely.nuts.html

Not Born Yesterday wrote:

pennylane wrote:

Panda wrote:Morning Kitti,

He looked a right misery all through the Trial and arrogant. Was the $750,000 from all his patients or just what he was paid by Michael Jackson?

I do wonder why no one in the Household phoned Maichaels parents when they could see what was happening.

Good morning Panda

It was the same with Elvis Presley. These 'stars' get themselves surrounded by 'yes' people and sycophants, and anyone who doesn't play the game is booted out fast. Sadly, money talks. Michael Jackson even asked the 'guru to the stars' Deepak Chopra for drugs when he visited his house, saying he had back pain or something similar, and Deepak told him there were plenty of natural ways to help him, but MJ wasn't interested in this direction. This was some years back, and I am pretty sure MJ asked many, many others too.

Dr Klein's another doctor that was prescribing copious amounts of drugs when Michael met his demise. He was the 'specialist' who diagnosed Jackson's Vitiligo.... I am not convinced by this diagnoses! It may have been cooked up to allow Jackson to get copious amounts of demerol (or whatever the drug of choice was). Any patchiness on Michael's skin was probably due to whitening agents (jmho). I also believe Dr Klein is the father of the two oldest of Michael's children. Debbie Row his once upon a time assistant is the mother.


Doctor Conrad Murray is grotesque, and the verdict is the right one.

I agree Penny Lane. I don't know of any medical condition which could change the colour of a person's skin in its entirety. I hadn't heard before about Dr Klein possibly being the biological father of the first two children. There are various bizarre stories going round like the one in the link about former child star Mark Lester and it does mention Dr Klein.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1206715/Is-ex-husband-Mark-Lester-father-Jackos-children-No-hes-completely.nuts.html

Hi NBY

Just a guess on my part regarding Klein being the father of the two oldest, but obviously there are a few other potential daddies in the frame. Actually Prince looks more like Klein and Paris looks more like Lester, so who knows. One things for sure, they are not MJ's biological children, of that there is not a doubt in my mind!

Re the vitiligo, you are quite right an entire change of skin colour is absurd, and I never saw any evidence of this disease or Michael's skin changing colour when he was a boy with the Jackson 5. The whiter skinned Michael took off following his first nose job and seemed to coincide with his multiple plastic surgeries.

It's possible that Debbie Rowe wasn't the biological parent of the first two children either!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196332/Michael-Jackson-Debbie-Rowe-biological-parents-of-children.html

I know that you have to take what you read in the press with a large pinch of salt but she certainly seems to be an unusual person, to put it politely.

Not Born Yesterday wrote:It's possible that Debbie Rowe wasn't the biological parent of the first two children either!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196332/Michael-Jackson-Debbie-Rowe-biological-parents-of-children.html

I know that you have to take what you read in the press with a large pinch of salt but she certainly seems to be an unusual person, to put it politely.

I really think Paris and Prince are Debbie's children.... especially Paris... she looks a lot like Debbie and has same pale blue eyes.... but as far as the father goes, that is one I am not so sure about...

Paris and her two younger siblings look quite different. Prince and blanket look more alike and perhaps they share a different father to Paris? I'm confusing myself now!