Washed up?Dr Roberts

Forensicist wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:Point taken.

Why did Gerry McCann tell the Leveson Inquiry, under oath, that he strongly believes in freedom of speech and doesn't have a problem with theories on the internet?

Was he lying?

You'll have to ask Gerry McCann.

I think Lord Justice Levinson already did. If GM tries to sue anyone for libel in future, the defence lawyer need only cross-examine him on his statements to Levinson. I hope Dr Amaral is reading this, his defence team...

But KM didn't say that. So she will sue on GM's behalf, naturally...

They are more slippery than a greased eel, and that is a FACT. Lies and more conflicting lies, all on record. Perjury to Levinson - KM "There were NO bodily fluids in the car..."

GA has more important things to do than spend his time online reading fora.

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:Point taken.

Why did Gerry McCann tell the Leveson Inquiry, under oath, that he strongly believes in freedom of speech and doesn't have a problem with theories on the internet?

Was he lying?

You'll have to ask Gerry McCann.

I think Lord Justice Levinson already did. If GM tries to sue anyone for libel in future, the defence lawyer need only cross-examine him on his statements to Levinson. I hope Dr Amaral is reading this, his defence team...

But KM didn't say that. So she will sue on GM's behalf, naturally...

They are more slippery than a greased eel, and that is a FACT. Lies and more conflicting lies, all on record. Perjury to Levinson - KM "There were NO bodily fluids in the car..."

GA has more important things to do than spend his time online reading fora.

That's not what I've heard, and I did mention his defence team, and if they don't bring up the statements Gerry made to Levinson, they are in the wrong job!

Forensicist wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:Point taken.

Why did Gerry McCann tell the Leveson Inquiry, under oath, that he strongly believes in freedom of speech and doesn't have a problem with theories on the internet?

Was he lying?

You'll have to ask Gerry McCann.

I think Lord Justice Levinson already did. If GM tries to sue anyone for libel in future, the defence lawyer need only cross-examine him on his statements to Levinson. I hope Dr Amaral is reading this, his defence team...

But KM didn't say that. So she will sue on GM's behalf, naturally...

They are more slippery than a greased eel, and that is a FACT. Lies and more conflicting lies, all on record. Perjury to Levinson - KM "There were NO bodily fluids in the car..."

GA has more important things to do than spend his time online reading fora.

That's not what I've heard, and I did mention his defence team, and if they don't bring up the statements Gerry made to Levinson, they are in the wrong job!

Then you've heard wrong. And his defence team don't have to read fora to be aware of what Gerry McCann and the members of Team McCann say.

I seem to remember a U.K. Detective Agency employed by the McCanns before Metodo 3......it"s mental block time again

Anyway, I"m sure one of you will remember. The reason I mention it is because apparently Kate referred to the "Mummy why didn"t you
come."......in a Statement given to this Agency and they were the ones who made it public, probably miffed because Metodo 3 took over.

CONTROL RISKS?

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

You'll have to ask Gerry McCann.

I think Lord Justice Levinson already did. If GM tries to sue anyone for libel in future, the defence lawyer need only cross-examine him on his statements to Levinson. I hope Dr Amaral is reading this, his defence team...

But KM didn't say that. So she will sue on GM's behalf, naturally...

They are more slippery than a greased eel, and that is a FACT. Lies and more conflicting lies, all on record. Perjury to Levinson - KM "There were NO bodily fluids in the car..."

GA has more important things to do than spend his time online reading fora.

That's not what I've heard, and I did mention his defence team, and if they don't bring up the statements Gerry made to Levinson, they are in the wrong job!

Then you've heard wrong. And his defence team don't have to read fora to be aware of what Gerry McCann and the members of Team McCann say.

Right, G Amaral never looks at the internet...

Read the above I said 'hope' - from what I've heard about GA's lawyers so far, they are not exactly a bunch of Clarence Darrows...

(See all the Blacksmith and Martins posts for starters...)

Badboy wrote:CONTROL RISKS?

I was reading about all the 'detectives' employed last night, written by Mr Whitehouse. You couldn't find a bigger shower if you tried! Several doing long jail terms, Halligen (Oakley, raked in half a mil I think, achieved nothing...) in the USA, need to read the article really...

From the madeline Foundation...

A. Control Risks Group 1
B. Metodo 3 2
C. Claims that a Metodo 3 senior investigator was a criminal 5
D.
Metodo 3 and a strange Portuguese lawyer, Marcos Alexandre Aragão Correia 6
E The Mark Hollingsworth article in the ‘Evening Standard’ 13
F Red Defence 14
G Red Defence International mutates into Oakley International 17
H. The involvement of Brian Kennedy in co-ordinating the private investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance 18
I. Oakley International 25
J. ‘A crack team of 12 senior detectives’ 28
K Dave Edgar and Arthur Cowley 28
L. Summary

Read the above I said 'hope' - from what I've heard about GA's lawyers so far, they are not exactly a bunch of Clarence Darrows...

(See all the Blacksmith and Martins posts for starters...)

I 'hope' Dr Amaral's lawyers at least have read these TWO articles too...

The McCanns' testimony to the Leveson inquiry has afforded, among other things, two quite different instances of Gerry McCann's preparedness to mislead as far as 'evidence' is concerned. Although the subject matter differs in each case, what they have in common is a verbal tactic which quite deliberately attempts to lead the listener to a false conclusion. I have previously discussed the one, the Blacksmith Bureau the other. The episodes in question concern (a) the McCanns contract with Transworld publishers and (b) their relationship (or otherwise) with the PCC.

Hi Forencicist,

Correia is a Lawyer representing Cipriana and nothing to do with the McCanns.

Red Defence/Oakley international was a one man outfit that Halligen bragged would trace Madeleine through the latest technology was
paid £300,000 and the last we knew he was languishing in a U.K. Jail awaiting extradition to the U.S.. His field was money laundering as
was Metodo 3 who complained they never received the figure quoted in the U.K. Press.

Control Risk it is rumoured were actually employed by HMG to enter Morocco using Madeleine"s disappearance as a cover . They were looking for one particular but the name I"m thinking of had two names. .........Associates, or International maybe.

Panda wrote:Hi Forencicist,

Correia is a Lawyer representing Cipriana and nothing to do with the McCanns.

Red Defence/Oakley international was a one man outfit that Halligen bragged would trace Madeleine through the latest technology was
paid £300,000 and the last we knew he was languishing in a U.K. Jail awaiting extradition to the U.S.. His field was money laundering as
was Metodo 3 who complained they never received the figure quoted in the U.K. Press.

Control Risk it is rumoured were actually employed by HMG to enter Morocco using Madeleine"s disappearance as a cover . They were looking for one particular but the name I"m thinking of had two names. .........Associates, or International maybe.

Hi,

Yes I know about the psychic (lol) lawyer! Didn't know about CRisks and Morroco. Why didn't they just get a plane? But like our MI6 and SAS boys getting caught in Libya, all they to do was fly to Tripoli and present themselves to whoever was in charge at the time!

I know Halligen was in Belmarsh (20 months was it?), but I think I read recently he was already extradited to the USA and in jail - dunno what sentence he got. Yes I know all about the money laundering, I think you will find out that the 'tecs were picked by the same folks that set up the MM Fund Ltd. Inc. (tm) All Rights Reserved etc. etc etc.

Anyhoos before Anna comes along and whacks me again saying this is all 'off topic' I've decided to move on. It is clear after my one hour to write post was (similarities between the JonBenet Ramsey case and this one) sent off to the gulag, and got barely one reply, and was labeled as spam, that thinking outside of the box is not allowed here.

I think people should be allowed to run with things (within reason) as there are weird connections in this case, VERY weird connections, all over the place.

And if you are not allowed to run with your thoughts as a Mod perceives it as off topic and spam, then there is no point continuing here, for me.

So good luck all with the hunt, let's all hope and pray little Maddie gets the justice she deserves.

Adios, and all the best to the forum.

Cheers!

F

Anna, I would be grateful if you would unsubscribe me and delete my 100 posts, thank you.

Forensicist wrote:

Anna, I would be grateful if you would unsubscribe me and delete my 100 posts, thank you.

Goodbye.

Quite. The vast majority of posters seem to get by without the trouble that Forensicist generated for himself.

Forensicist wrote:

Panda wrote:Hi Forencicist,

Correia is a Lawyer representing Cipriana and nothing to do with the McCanns.

Red Defence/Oakley international was a one man outfit that Halligen bragged would trace Madeleine through the latest technology was
paid £300,000 and the last we knew he was languishing in a U.K. Jail awaiting extradition to the U.S.. His field was money laundering as
was Metodo 3 who complained they never received the figure quoted in the U.K. Press.

Control Risk it is rumoured were actually employed by HMG to enter Morocco using Madeleine"s disappearance as a cover . They were looking for one particular but the name I"m thinking of had two names. .........Associates, or International maybe.

Hi,

Yes I know about the psychic (lol) lawyer! Didn't know about CRisks and Morroco. Why didn't they just get a plane? But like our MI6 and SAS boys getting caught in Libya, all they to do was fly to Tripoli and present themselves to whoever was in charge at the time!

I know Halligen was in Belmarsh (20 months was it?), but I think I read recently he was already extradited to the USA and in jail - dunno what sentence he got. Yes I know all about the money laundering, I think you will find out that the 'tecs were picked by the same folks that set up the MM Fund Ltd. Inc. (tm) All Rights Reserved etc. etc etc.

Anyhoos before Anna comes along and whacks me again saying this is all 'off topic' I've decided to move on. It is clear after my one hour to write post was (similarities between the JonBenet Ramsey case and this one) sent off to the gulag, and got barely one reply, and was labeled as spam, that thinking outside of the box is not allowed here.

I think people should be allowed to run with things (within reason) as there are weird connections in this case, VERY weird connections, all over the place.

I THINK YOU SHOULD STAY.
THEY ARE WEIRD CONNECTIONS IN THIS CASE

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Quite. The vast majority of posters seem to get by without the trouble that Forensicist generated for himself.

Hi NBY,

I only responded to one of F"s post once and she leaves

She did make a nonsense of her list though.

They were looking for one particular person. Hollingsworth sounds familiar but the name I"m thinking of had two names. .........Associates, or International maybe.

I made a mistake on the post and it should have read like the above, any ideas anyone.???

Forensicist wrote:

Panda wrote:Hi Forencicist,

Correia is a Lawyer representing Cipriana and nothing to do with the McCanns.

Red Defence/Oakley international was a one man outfit that Halligen bragged would trace Madeleine through the latest technology was
paid £300,000 and the last we knew he was languishing in a U.K. Jail awaiting extradition to the U.S.. His field was money laundering as
was Metodo 3 who complained they never received the figure quoted in the U.K. Press.

Control Risk it is rumoured were actually employed by HMG to enter Morocco using Madeleine"s disappearance as a cover . They were looking for one particular but the name I"m thinking of had two names. .........Associates, or International maybe.

Hi,

Yes I know about the psychic (lol) lawyer! Didn't know about CRisks and Morroco. Why didn't they just get a plane? But like our MI6 and SAS boys getting caught in Libya, all they to do was fly to Tripoli and present themselves to whoever was in charge at the time!

I know Halligen was in Belmarsh (20 months was it?), but I think I read recently he was already extradited to the USA and in jail - dunno what sentence he got. Yes I know all about the money laundering, I think you will find out that the 'tecs were picked by the same folks that set up the MM Fund Ltd. Inc. (tm) All Rights Reserved etc. etc etc.

Anyhoos before Anna comes along and whacks me again saying this is all 'off topic' I've decided to move on. It is clear after my one hour to write post was (similarities between the JonBenet Ramsey case and this one) sent off to the gulag, and got barely one reply, and was labeled as spam, that thinking outside of the box is not allowed here.

I think people should be allowed to run with things (within reason) as there are weird connections in this case, VERY weird connections, all over the place.

And if you are not allowed to run with your thoughts as a Mod perceives it as off topic and spam, then there is no point continuing here, for me.

So good luck all with the hunt, let's all hope and pray little Maddie gets the justice she deserves.

Adios, and all the best to the forum.

Cheers!

F

Anna, I would be grateful if you would unsubscribe me and delete my 100 posts, thank you.

I'm afraid I can't unsubscribe you. Only admin can do that. I can ban you if you'd like. I shall retain all of your posts pour encourager les autres!

AnnaEsse wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

Panda wrote:Hi Forencicist,

Correia is a Lawyer representing Cipriana and nothing to do with the McCanns.

Red Defence/Oakley international was a one man outfit that Halligen bragged would trace Madeleine through the latest technology was
paid £300,000 and the last we knew he was languishing in a U.K. Jail awaiting extradition to the U.S.. His field was money laundering as
was Metodo 3 who complained they never received the figure quoted in the U.K. Press.

Control Risk it is rumoured were actually employed by HMG to enter Morocco using Madeleine"s disappearance as a cover . They were looking for one particular but the name I"m thinking of had two names. .........Associates, or International maybe.

Hi,

Yes I know about the psychic (lol) lawyer! Didn't know about CRisks and Morroco. Why didn't they just get a plane? But like our MI6 and SAS boys getting caught in Libya, all they to do was fly to Tripoli and present themselves to whoever was in charge at the time!

I know Halligen was in Belmarsh (20 months was it?), but I think I read recently he was already extradited to the USA and in jail - dunno what sentence he got. Yes I know all about the money laundering, I think you will find out that the 'tecs were picked by the same folks that set up the MM Fund Ltd. Inc. (tm) All Rights Reserved etc. etc etc.

Anyhoos before Anna comes along and whacks me again saying this is all 'off topic' I've decided to move on. It is clear after my one hour to write post was (similarities between the JonBenet Ramsey case and this one) sent off to the gulag, and got barely one reply, and was labeled as spam, that thinking outside of the box is not allowed here.

I think people should be allowed to run with things (within reason) as there are weird connections in this case, VERY weird connections, all over the place.

And if you are not allowed to run with your thoughts as a Mod perceives it as off topic and spam, then there is no point continuing here, for me.

So good luck all with the hunt, let's all hope and pray little Maddie gets the justice she deserves.

Adios, and all the best to the forum.

Cheers!

F

Anna, I would be grateful if you would unsubscribe me and delete my 100 posts, thank you.

I'm afraid I can't unsubscribe you. Only admin can do that. I can ban you if you'd like. I shall retain all of your posts pour encourager les autres!

Noooo, please don't ban me, too humiliating, bit like Platinum and the difference between resignation and early retirement!

OK, 2nd thoughts I'll stick around, my main 'beef' is really that as BADBOY (and I'm sure everyone else) also knows, these weird 'coincidences' just do not add up at all, there are probably hundreds that I have come across in my reading, especially the 'who are friends with who' or 'who are freemasons with who' or 'who works for who' or 'who is linked to who (ref companies, think tanks, quangos, corporations etc) - I just think if the mods are too strict on insisting that threads stay 'on topic' that will limit progress IMHO. What may seem like a diatribe or spam to a mod, may contains absolute nuggets to me. I've noticed that the whole forum is split into logical lists of things, but these backwaters are often not visited very much, and all the action happens on just a few. I don't know what the answer is TBH.

Cheers!

F

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Quite. The vast majority of posters seem to get by without the trouble that Forensicist generated for himself.

Don't worry about me, I could start a fight in a phone box (on my own...)

The End Is Nigh wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

Anna, I would be grateful if you would unsubscribe me and delete my 100 posts, thank you.

Goodbye.

Hello.

Panda wrote:

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Quite. The vast majority of posters seem to get by without the trouble that Forensicist generated for himself.

Hi NBY,

I only responded to one of F"s post once and she leaves

She did make a nonsense of her list though.

They were looking for one particular person. Hollingsworth sounds familiar but the name I"m thinking of had two names. .........Associates, or International maybe.

I made a mistake on the post and it should have read like the above, any ideas anyone.???

No offence intended Panda!

forensicist,
i'm just speaking for myself here,
but i enjoy reading your posts,
they seem well thought out and well written,
it would be a shame if you where to go.

Badboy wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

Panda wrote:Hi Forencicist,

Correia is a Lawyer representing Cipriana and nothing to do with the McCanns.

Red Defence/Oakley international was a one man outfit that Halligen bragged would trace Madeleine through the latest technology was
paid £300,000 and the last we knew he was languishing in a U.K. Jail awaiting extradition to the U.S.. His field was money laundering as
was Metodo 3 who complained they never received the figure quoted in the U.K. Press.

Control Risk it is rumoured were actually employed by HMG to enter Morocco using Madeleine"s disappearance as a cover . They were looking for one particular but the name I"m thinking of had two names. .........Associates, or International maybe.

Hi,

Yes I know about the psychic (lol) lawyer! Didn't know about CRisks and Morroco. Why didn't they just get a plane? But like our MI6 and SAS boys getting caught in Libya, all they to do was fly to Tripoli and present themselves to whoever was in charge at the time!

I know Halligen was in Belmarsh (20 months was it?), but I think I read recently he was already extradited to the USA and in jail - dunno what sentence he got. Yes I know all about the money laundering, I think you will find out that the 'tecs were picked by the same folks that set up the MM Fund Ltd. Inc. (tm) All Rights Reserved etc. etc etc.

Anyhoos before Anna comes along and whacks me again saying this is all 'off topic' I've decided to move on. It is clear after my one hour to write post was (similarities between the JonBenet Ramsey case and this one) sent off to the gulag, and got barely one reply, and was labeled as spam, that thinking outside of the box is not allowed here.

I think people should be allowed to run with things (within reason) as there are weird connections in this case, VERY weird connections, all over the place.

I THINK YOU SHOULD STAY.
THEY ARE WEIRD CONNECTIONS IN THIS CASE

Yes, amazingly weird ones, I think I am going to start compiling a DID YOU KNOW list about them, for example here's one...

Phillip Edmonds, cousin of Margaret Hodge (who if I am right was the minister in charge of the Baby P case, did nothing about Holly Grieg, did nothing about Jersey, just IMHO was the totally wrong woman for the job, do some simple digging on this woman and paedophilia, see below) was at the resort and mysteriously scarpered back to the UK on the 2nd May 2007, and didn't check out properly - just left in a very big hurry...

Another VERY well connected man did the same thing... forget his name, Weinberger, was it?

So what happened to frighten them off on or around the 2nd of May, to make them cut short their holiday?



Margaret Hodge MBE MP (née Oppenheimer; born 8 September 1944), also known as Lady Hodge by virtue of her husband's knighthood, is a British Labour politician, who has been the Member of Parliament for Barking since 1994. She was the first Minister for Children in 2003...

Under new guidelines to judges, paedophiles who abuse children of 12 or under(!) could get reduced sentences if they can show that their victims "consented" to sex !

These guidelines, which are binding on crown courts in England and Wales, show the depths to which the legal system is this country has now sunk !

The idea that the law is there for the protection of the vulnerable, the innocent and the defenceless, has been thrown away to allow perverts who deliberately abuse vulnerable and defenceless children to get lighter sentences ! (Full story)

Is it a coincidence that a few months ago Chief Superintendant Clive Murray called for the age of consent to be reduced to 13, or that a few days before that Chief Constable Terry Grange said that paedophiles should not be called paedophiles ?

"In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair's government. However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation....Police also discovered links between British Labor government pedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution from Belgium and Portugal..." (Full article here) (Another article)

In June 2003 Tony Blair appointed Margaret Hodge, who for several years blocked a police investigation into a paedophile ring operating in her own council, to the post of Minister for Children !

blossom45 wrote: forensicist,
i'm just speaking for myself here,
but i enjoy reading your posts,
they seem well thought out and well written,
it would be a shame if you where to go.

Thank you [blush]

Forensicist wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

Forensicist wrote:

I think Lord Justice Levinson already did. If GM tries to sue anyone for libel in future, the defence lawyer need only cross-examine him on his statements to Levinson. I hope Dr Amaral is reading this, his defence team...

But KM didn't say that. So she will sue on GM's behalf, naturally...

They are more slippery than a greased eel, and that is a FACT. Lies and more conflicting lies, all on record. Perjury to Levinson - KM "There were NO bodily fluids in the car..."

GA has more important things to do than spend his time online reading fora.

That's not what I've heard, and I did mention his defence team, and if they don't bring up the statements Gerry made to Levinson, they are in the wrong job!

Then you've heard wrong. And his defence team don't have to read fora to be aware of what Gerry McCann and the members of Team McCann say.

Right, G Amaral never looks at the internet...

Read the above I said 'hope' - from what I've heard about GA's lawyers so far, they are not exactly a bunch of Clarence Darrows...

(See all the Blacksmith and Martins posts for starters...)

Are you really obtuse or just pretending? Did I say GA never looked at the internet? I said he didn't read fora. And yes, he currently has little time to look at the internet too.

@Forensicist:

I'm so sorry, but I have read a lot of drivel over the past four, nearly five years, and from many points of view.

But I really cannot understand most of what you say at all.

Far too convoluted, rambling and free of context.

Simple points,well explained, are so much easier to assimilate.

The End Is Nigh wrote:@Forensicist:

I'm so sorry, but I have read a lot of drivel over the past four, nearly five years, and from many points of view.

But I really cannot understand most of what you say at all.

Far too convoluted, rambling and free of context.

Simple points,well explained, are so much easier to assimilate.

Especially when you are of the opinion that some of us are senile. An apology would be nice, BTW, but I won't be holding my breath.