Panorama:Madeleine:The Last Hope...Thur 3rd May

keepingmum wrote:Wow, didn't dr. Amaral come across well in the BBC news just now. And I liked the "attitudes have hardened against the McCanns" comment. Never thought I'd hear the Beeb every comment on anything like that about the blessed couple.

Was Dr Amaral on the news?

It has just been on BBC news and they said it is on tomorrow night - not Monday

mossman wrote:It has just been on BBC news and they said it is on tomorrow night - not Monday

Thank you xx

pennylane wrote:

mossman wrote:It has just been on BBC news and they said it is on tomorrow night - not Monday

Thank you xx

You are Welcome ! Why the change of date ???

he was only on for a few seconds and spoke in Portuguese but appeared controlled and statesmanlike imho. The McCanns looks a right couple of scruff bags in comparison.

mossman wrote:

pennylane wrote:

mossman wrote:It has just been on BBC news and they said it is on tomorrow night - not Monday

Thank you xx

You are Welcome ! Why the change of date ???

Good question!

I'm intrigued by that too!

Oldartform wrote:This article from Cumbria Crack News has more info:-

http://www.cumbriacrack.com/2012/04/24/madeleine-mccann-the-last-hope/

Thanks Oldartform .......I'm getting very bad vibes, Andy Redwood looking for Closure with obviously no new information . The Final Report
stands then the McCanns not in the clear but the PJ keep the case shelved, LP and SY close the files until such time as any new evidence appears.

Unless there is someone going to appear on Panorama to offer an alternative theory to abduction it will be a whitewash.

I think I'll get my Son to design a Blog for me callled Pandas Pad where anyone can join to discuss any topic, EXCEPT Madeleine, it will help with the
withdrawal symptoms.

mossman wrote:

pennylane wrote:

mossman wrote:It has just been on BBC news and they said it is on tomorrow night - not Monday

Thank you xx

You are Welcome ! Why the change of date ???

It`s only being shown tomorrow in some areas, not all. Some have to wait until Monday. Best check your local tv listings for tomorrow.

Andy Redwood said he wanted to "solve the case" and wanted "closure". Unfortunately he added the words "for the family". Ugh.

keepingmum wrote:Andy Redwood said he wanted to "solve the case" and wanted "closure". Unfortunately he added the words "for the family". Ugh.

A cell door slamming shut would be closure for the family.

keepingmum wrote:Andy Redwood said he wanted to "solve the case" and wanted "closure". Unfortunately he added the words "for the family". Ugh.

Yeh right! No surprises there then!

Bobsy wrote:I could never follow a profession where I had to help clients escape justice.

pennylane wrote:

keepingmum wrote:Andy Redwood said he wanted to "solve the case" and wanted "closure". Unfortunately he added the words "for the family". Ugh.

Yeh right! No surprises there then!

Yes, I agree with both of you.. sounds bad..

But «closure for the familiy» could be the fact that they think Madeleine is dead, no?

I have been looking for an article we had here the other day where someone from the Portuguese side stated the British team weren't looking to investigate from the beginning, and the emphasis was on collaboration rather than investigation. Or words to that effect. Anyone know where it is?

Indeed, the word closure is most often associated with death.

And interestingly, it's 'closure for the family' rather than 'closure for the parents'.

I think they have been planning this 'closure' since last year when the review was started, and planting the seeds into the public domain since the Leveson Inquiry

pennylane wrote:I have been looking for an article we had here the other day where someone from the Portuguese side stated the British team weren't looking to investigate from the beginning, and the emphasis was on collaboration rather than investigation. Or words to that effect. Anyone know where it is?

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ETA:

"Don't expect a miracle. This is still just promotion," warns a Portuguese PJ inspector.

Approaching the fifth anniversary of their daughter's disappearance, Kate and Gerry McCann, little Maddie's parents, are preparing to launch a new version of their book, "Madeleine."

Thanks to promotion and a rapid decrease in the initial cover price, the original version of "Madeleine," sold 280,000 copies in the United Kingdom alone.

The "new," work, in paperback format, will be released in the United Kingdom on May 10th and includes a new epilogue which is supposed to reflect the work of the British team which is busy analyzing the the original investigation.

What's more, it's the confidence the McCanns claim to have in this team that has been put forward to justify the return of the case to the pages of the British tabloids.

After five years and a few million Euros up in smoke - 2.2 million in 2011 alone - , a team of 36 detectives and civilians would be under pressure to find the solution to the Maddie mystery.

According to a source - always the same - quoted by the Sunday Mirror tabloid, "the London Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard) would have invested a great deal of resources in the examination (of the investigation) and they want results."

According to the Sunday Mirror, the work of the British police will result in a "full report with a series of recommendations," for the Portuguese PJ.

Astonishingly, the source quoted by the tabloid also provides statements from the McCanns and details of Kate's work in the writing of the new epilogue.

The information disclosed by several British tabloids, also makes clear that Chief Inspector Andy Redwood's team anticipate that their report could lead to the reopening of the investigation in Portugal.

As a reminder, a PJ team in Porto, in the north of Portugal, is also proceeding with a re-examination of the facts from the original investigation - a kind of "Cold Case," Portuguese version.

Pressure, but no miracles.

A long way away from the communication experts and the promotion of the new version of "Madeleine," the Portuguese team views the case with a lot less enthusiasm.

"Unfortunately, we can't expect a miracle because it's still only promotion," a PJ inspector close to the team directed by coordinator Helena Monteiro warns.

According to this inspector, "the method adopted by the English is flawed by a mistake: at the beginning, they threw out all possibilities with the exception of abduction by a stranger to the group."

"I am not accusing the parents, but there were other people and for certain there are still doubts. And the only way to take up the investigation again would be to start with the reconstruction," states the same inspector, stressing that "pressure is on collaboration," at the expense of quality.

Decoding

One month before the publication of this "new" book - a sort of rehash of the first version - it is important from a commercial point of view, to make a new appeal to the British media.

It is incidentally interesting to stress that it's the same English tabloids that the McCann clan condemn every time the subject of Maddie's disappearance is approached from an angle that is not orchestrated by their public relations machine - and I'm referring to Clarence Mitchell.

Astonishing coordination between the British media, usually miserly in their collaboration, who, for some unknown reason (sorry for this utter sarcasm), have all published similar information.

Information worthy of a communications expert....did I mention Clarence Mitchell?!

I am not even talking about the Portuguese media ...because there we talk about the "parrot," effect.

Duarte Levy 17th April 2012/

jd16 wrote:I think they have been planning this 'closure' since last year when the review was started, and planting the seeds into the public domain since the Leveson Inquiry

Absolutely right on the money jd! I'm not in the least bit surprised, but still I feel sick!

Oldartform wrote:

mossman wrote:

pennylane wrote:

mossman wrote:It has just been on BBC news and they said it is on tomorrow night - not Monday

Thank you xx

You are Welcome ! Why the change of date ???

It`s only being shown tomorrow in some areas, not all. Some have to wait until Monday. Best check your local tv listings for tomorrow.

The only region it is not showing as listed is BBC1 North West, it appears at 730 on all other regions listings.

I could 'feel' it during the Leveson Inquiry...I just hope I am so damned wrong but alas, its all looking to be going into one direction. They are scared that public opinion is snowballing into finding the truth & have cottoned on to the facts, so they need to whitewash it right now is their POV

Though would GA agree to go onto the programme that is going to whitewash the case? I would't have thought so. EH remarking 'it could be closer to home'? but I am clutching at straws I think

I will never ever give up fighting whatever happens

Isabelinha, your bosses won't like you saying that. So everybody believes GA? Thought it was only a few nutters, Isabel.

jd16 wrote:

Bobsy wrote:I could never follow a profession where I had to help clients escape justice.

not for any amount jd16, I have principles.

maive wrote:

pennylane wrote:I have been looking for an article we had here the other day where someone from the Portuguese side stated the British team weren't looking to investigate from the beginning, and the emphasis was on collaboration rather than investigation. Or words to that effect. Anyone know where it is?

Page 18 of this post:


ETA:

"Don't expect a miracle. This is still just promotion," warns a Portuguese PJ inspector.

Approaching the fifth anniversary of their daughter's disappearance, Kate and Gerry McCann, little Maddie's parents, are preparing to launch a new version of their book, "Madeleine."

Thanks to promotion and a rapid decrease in the initial cover price, the original version of "Madeleine," sold 280,000 copies in the United Kingdom alone.

The "new," work, in paperback format, will be released in the United Kingdom on May 10th and includes a new epilogue which is supposed to reflect the work of the British team which is busy analyzing the the original investigation.

What's more, it's the confidence the McCanns claim to have in this team that has been put forward to justify the return of the case to the pages of the British tabloids.

After five years and a few million Euros up in smoke - 2.2 million in 2011 alone - , a team of 36 detectives and civilians would be under pressure to find the solution to the Maddie mystery.

According to a source - always the same - quoted by the Sunday Mirror tabloid, "the London Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard) would have invested a great deal of resources in the examination (of the investigation) and they want results."

According to the Sunday Mirror, the work of the British police will result in a "full report with a series of recommendations," for the Portuguese PJ.

Astonishingly, the source quoted by the tabloid also provides statements from the McCanns and details of Kate's work in the writing of the new epilogue.

The information disclosed by several British tabloids, also makes clear that Chief Inspector Andy Redwood's team anticipate that their report could lead to the reopening of the investigation in Portugal.

As a reminder, a PJ team in Porto, in the north of Portugal, is also proceeding with a re-examination of the facts from the original investigation - a kind of "Cold Case," Portuguese version.

Pressure, but no miracles.

A long way away from the communication experts and the promotion of the new version of "Madeleine," the Portuguese team views the case with a lot less enthusiasm.

"Unfortunately, we can't expect a miracle because it's still only promotion," a PJ inspector close to the team directed by coordinator Helena Monteiro warns.

According to this inspector, "the method adopted by the English is flawed by a mistake: at the beginning, they threw out all possibilities with the exception of abduction by a stranger to the group."

"I am not accusing the parents, but there were other people and for certain there are still doubts. And the only way to take up the investigation again would be to start with the reconstruction," states the same inspector, stressing that "pressure is on collaboration," at the expense of quality.

Decoding

One month before the publication of this "new" book - a sort of rehash of the first version - it is important from a commercial point of view, to make a new appeal to the British media.

It is incidentally interesting to stress that it's the same English tabloids that the McCann clan condemn every time the subject of Maddie's disappearance is approached from an angle that is not orchestrated by their public relations machine - and I'm referring to Clarence Mitchell.

Astonishing coordination between the British media, usually miserly in their collaboration, who, for some unknown reason (sorry for this utter sarcasm), have all published similar information.

Information worthy of a communications expert....did I mention Clarence Mitchell?!

I am not even talking about the Portuguese media ...because there we talk about the "parrot," effect.

Duarte Levy 17th April 2012/

Ah yes there it is. Brilliant, thank you so much maive

A long way away from the communication experts and the promotion of the new version of "Madeleine," the Portuguese team views the case with a lot less enthusiasm.

"Unfortunately, we can't expect a miracle because it's still only promotion," a PJ inspector close to the team directed by coordinator Helena Monteiro warns.

According to this inspector, "the method adopted by the English is flawed by a mistake: at the beginning, they threw out all possibilities with the exception of abduction by a stranger to the group."

"I am not accusing the parents, but there were other people and for certain there are still doubts. And the only way to take up the investigation again would be to start with the reconstruction," states the same inspector, stressing that "pressure is on collaboration," at the expense of quality.

jd16 wrote:I could 'feel' it during the Leveson Inquiry...I just hope I am so damned wrong but alas, its all looking to be going into one direction. They are scared that public opinion is snowballing into finding the truth & have cottoned on to the facts, so they need to whitewash it right now is their POV

Though would GA agree to go onto the programme that is going to whitewash the case? I would't have thought so. EH remarking 'it could be closer to home'? but I am clutching at straws I think

I will never ever give up fighting whatever happens

JD16, I always like to read your posts. They are usually informative, well balanced and to the point.

Reading this, I could cry.

I so hope this is the one time you are totally wrong in your opinion