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Post  maebee Fri 12 Jul - 0:01

Police hunt gives McCanns fresh hope

Pity that SY are not giving Madeleine fresh hope - of justice :(
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Post  mossman Fri 12 Jul - 8:12

I like that front page. A reference to death in the sun, a child's cuddly toy and a family holiday. All alongside a story about the McCanns - the parents, not the missing child of course.

I would like to think the Express publication is tongue in cheek with these other front page stories, but I doubt it.
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Post  AnnaEsse Fri 12 Jul - 8:46

Red tape won’t delay hunt for Madeleine say McCanns

This is the headline, but the McCanns don't seem to be quoted as saying this in the actual text. Just as well too, since the McCanns don't have much, if any, say in the process.

THE parents of Madeleine McCann say they have “absolute faith” in the new investigation into their missing daughter despite reports the Europe-wide inquiry is already getting bogged down in red tape

Eight days after Scotland Yard announced that officers were ­moving from review stage of the case to a full-blown investigation, Kate and Gerry McCann remain hopeful of a breakthrough.

Their declaration came after it was revealed that a vital Letter of Request, which must be sent to the Portuguese authorities, has still not been delivered.

Without it, aspects of the investigation could be delayed due to lack of formal approval from the relevant authorities there.

Last night the Crown Prosecution Service, which is responsible for delivering the letter to the Portuguese judicial bodies, said its officials were still drawing up the complex legal document.

A CPS spokesman said: “Any legal communication between different jurisdictions requires extremely careful correspondence, including appropriate translations.

“We are liaising with the Portuguese authorities and will send the formal Letter of Request as soon as possible.”

The spokesman said police had fully consulted with the CPS before Scotland Yard went public with its announcement of a full-blown investigation last week.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police declined to comment.
But Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns, said: “Kate and Gerry will not be giving a running commentary on every part of this process. But they have absolute faith in the work Scotland Yard are doing.”

Senior Met Police officers from Operation Grange, the inquiry into Madeleine’s disappearance, are aware of the technical and bureaucratic complexities which face them. But they also remain optimistic of making progress in the case.

They have told how they believe Madeleine may still be alive and urged the public to continue to help search for her.

Announcing the full-blown investigation, Det Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, head of Operation Grange, said: “It is a positive step in our hunt for Madeleine that our understanding of the evidence has enabled us to shift from review to investigation.”

He added: “We, and the Portuguese authorities, remain completely committed to finding out what happened to Madeleine, and everything we do is utterly focused on her best interests.

“We continue to believe that there is a possibility that Madeleine is alive.” Officers need all relevant ­documents correctly in place to ensure full co-operation between officials here and abroad, and to avoid bureaucratic hitches.

International criminal investigations in Europe are governed by two “mutual assistance” treaties, one ­dating back to 1959 and the other from 2000.

The conventions set out procedures for matters such as the exchange of legal papers, holding hearings by video-link, the control of undercover officers, phone taps and interception of email and other communications.

Police revealed they have identified 38 “persons of interest” so far – 12 of whom are British nationals who were in Portugal at the time Madeleine vanished, and are currently thought to be in Portugal or the UK.

The others on the list are believed to be in Portugal, the UK or three other unnamed European ­countries.

Madeleine – who would now be 10 years old – went missing from a ­holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve on May 3, 2007.

The Portuguese investigation is officially closed but the authorities there are backing the new Scotland Yard inquiry. Officers from both countries will work together in pursuing fresh leads.

A team of 37 Met Police officers and staff are working on the case.

So far the team has gathered 30,500 documents and generated 3,800 “actions” they need to tackle.

They are about two-thirds of the way through their review and so far have been to Portugal 16 times.

Operation Grange was launched in May 2011 after the McCanns, both 45, and from Rothley, Leics, appealed directly to Prime Minister David Cameron for help from Scotland Yard.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/414253/Red-tape-won-t-delay-hunt-for-Madeleine-say-McCanns
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Post  jeanmonroe Fri 12 Jul - 10:08

"Red tape won’t delay hunt for Madeleine say McCanns"
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It already HAS, hasn't it?

How many 'crimes' have the suspicious 38 persons of interest commited since Andy Pandy's 'announcement'?

EIGHT days ago!
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Post  jeanmonroe Fri 12 Jul - 11:03

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4884021/Brit-father-in-Maddie-cops-hols-kid-probe.html

Does anyone know what has happened to Mr Lawlor since he was arrested and then released on bail April 12th 2013,......... 3 MONTHS ago?

Are the Maddie cops including him in their list of 12 UK 'suspects'?

Has he been totally cleared of the alledged 'kidnap' attempt?

IF he has, then the Sun that named him and his daughters, and plastered his face all over their front page, have kept very, very quiet.
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Post  duncanmac Fri 12 Jul - 11:39

Often wondered if the couple who observed the car boot continually left open, are within the 38 people of interest, is this mentioned anywhere within the released files ?,
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Post  tanszi Fri 12 Jul - 12:33

oh so much that jogs the memory, ahh the open boot, wasn't that s*itty nappies again.
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Post  duncanmac Fri 12 Jul - 12:36

GA says he was removed from the case before he had chance to interview them IIRC, did Rebello ever follow this up ?
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Post  jeanmonroe Fri 12 Jul - 13:45

duncanmac wrote:GA says he was removed from the case before he had chance to interview them IIRC, did Rebello ever follow this up ?

Did Rebello ever follow ANYTHING up after GA was 'removed'?
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Post  Karen Fri 12 Jul - 14:25

tanszi wrote:oh so much that jogs the memory,  ahh the open boot, wasn't that s*itty nappies again.

Yes sh*tty nappies and seabass as "Sean took a liking to seabass" as per Lord Gerry McCann.

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Post  weissnicht Fri 12 Jul - 15:29

mossman wrote:I like that front page.  A reference to death in the sun, a child's cuddly toy and a family holiday.  All alongside a story about the McCanns - the parents, not the missing child of course.

I would like to think the Express publication is tongue in cheek with these other front page stories, but I doubt it.  
Not the first time.
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Post  Claudia79 Fri 12 Jul - 15:39

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duncanmac wrote:GA says he was removed from the case before he had chance to interview them IIRC, did Rebello ever follow this up ?

Did Rebello ever follow ANYTHING up after GA was 'removed'?

Nope.
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Post  interested Fri 12 Jul - 16:41

There is a new article entitled, "Undying hope for Madeleine McCann" online at macleans.ca. Maclean's is a popular Canadian magazine but, it pains me to say, it is slanted along the lines of, the McCanns "have devoted the past six years of their lives as well as their life savings, to a relentles - and often unaided and lonely - search for their daughter".

Sad that this respected Canadian magazine is not reporting the facts of the case.
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Post  Carolina Fri 12 Jul - 19:04

duncanmac wrote:GA says he was removed from the case before he had chance to interview them IIRC, did Rebello ever follow this up ?

Gonçalo Amaral was a coordinator and it was not his job to interview suspects or witnesses. Rebelo did not follow it up.It seems that the rogatory letters for the Smiths were sent to the UK instead of the Republic of Ireland and after that nothing more was done.
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Post  duncanmac Fri 12 Jul - 19:59

Carolina, it was GA job to interview these people, through the officers he delegated that task to, it was not his job personally to do it, but his job to ensure it got done, its a bit like saying its not Richard Bransons job to fly the planes, we know, but its his job to make sure someone flys them, anyone it seems to me like Rebello was brought into shelve the case.
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Post  Claudia79 Fri 12 Jul - 20:12

duncanmac wrote:Carolina, it was GA job to interview these people, through the officers he delegated that task to, it was not his job personally to do it, but his job to ensure it got done, its a bit like saying its not Richard Bransons job to fly the planes, we know, but its his job to make sure someone flys them, anyone it seems to me like Rebello was brought into shelve the case.

A job GA was prevented from doing.
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Post  duncanmac Fri 12 Jul - 20:19

Claudia, thank you, exactly my thoughts also.
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Post  duncanmac Fri 12 Jul - 20:24

And for the record, I have the greatest admiration for Mr Amaral.
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Post  Carolina Fri 12 Jul - 20:46

duncanmac wrote:Carolina, it was GA job to interview these people, through the officers he delegated that task to, it was not his job personally to do it, but his job to ensure it got done, its a bit like saying its not Richard Bransons job to fly the planes, we know, but its his job to make sure someone flys them, anyone it seems to me like Rebello was brought into shelve the case.

In Portugal, the investigating police force is called the Polícia Judiciária, judiciary police, which means that it is under the authority of the judicial system and that it is the judge who runs the investigation. For example, if the judge authorised the questioning of the owner of the pet crematorium, the coordinator (Gonçalo Amaral) then informed the investigators, decided which car they were to use and the amount of money the would need. He then received their report and he then made a report from all of the activities of that day, which was then passed on to the hierarchy. He did not decide which way the investigation was to go, that was up to the judge and the Ministério Público. He did not sit in on the questioning of the McCanns either, he might have listened in but he did not decide which questions were to be made or whether they were to be made arguidos or not. GA was taken off the case mostly because he was someone you couldn't miss in the crowd and to please the parents. Paulo Rebelo's whole participation in the investigation was, as the Portuguese say "para Inglês ver", meaning it was just a sham and he pretended to do something but didn't try very hard. Also, he didn't find anything to support the abduction theory. AFAIK, he took unpaid leave or retired early, can't remember which.
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Post  Claudia79 Fri 12 Jul - 21:43

Carolina wrote:
duncanmac wrote:Carolina, it was GA job to interview these people, through the officers he delegated that task to, it was not his job personally to do it, but his job to ensure it got done, its a bit like saying its not Richard Bransons job to fly the planes, we know, but its his job to make sure someone flys them, anyone it seems to me like Rebello was brought into shelve the case.

In Portugal, the investigating police force is called the Polícia Judiciária, judiciary police, which means that it is under the authority of the judicial system and that it is the judge who runs the investigation. For example, if the judge authorised the questioning of the owner of the pet crematorium, the coordinator (Gonçalo Amaral) then informed the investigators, decided which car they were to use and the amount of money the would need. He then received their report and he then made a report from all of the activities of that day, which was then passed on to the hierarchy. He did not decide which way the investigation was to go, that was up to the judge and the Ministério Público. He did not sit in on the questioning of the McCanns either, he might have listened in but he did not decide which questions were to be made or whether they were to be made arguidos or not. GA was taken off the case mostly because he was someone you couldn't miss in the crowd and to please the parents. Paulo Rebelo's whole participation in the investigation was, as the Portuguese say "para Inglês ver", meaning it was just a sham and he pretended to do something but didn't try very hard. Also, he didn't find anything to support the abduction theory. AFAIK, he took unpaid leave or retired early, can't remember which.

That expression, Carolina, (para Inglês ver) is particularly ironic in this case...
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Post  Claudia79 Fri 12 Jul - 21:44

duncanmac wrote:And for the record, I have the greatest admiration for Mr Amaral.

I know, Duncanmac.
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Post  weissnicht Sat 13 Jul - 7:39

interested wrote:There is a new article entitled, "Undying hope for Madeleine McCann" online at macleans.ca.  Maclean's is a popular Canadian magazine but, it pains me to say, it is slanted along the lines of, the McCanns "have devoted the past six years of their lives as well as their life savings, to a relentles - and often unaided and lonely - search for their daughter".

Sad that this respected Canadian magazine is not reporting the facts of the case.
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Post  AnnaEsse Sat 13 Jul - 8:43

weissnicht wrote:
interested wrote:There is a new article entitled, "Undying hope for Madeleine McCann" online at macleans.ca.  Maclean's is a popular Canadian magazine but, it pains me to say, it is slanted along the lines of, the McCanns "have devoted the past six years of their lives as well as their life savings, to a relentles - and often unaided and lonely - search for their daughter".

Sad that this respected Canadian magazine is not reporting the facts of the case.
Are their complete mad? Daily express - FRONT page 738116 

Must be! The McCanns' life savings? Daily express - FRONT page 613255 The Fund has been their savings bank for the past six years!
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