Lisbon Libel Trial McCanns v Amaral

 

jeanmonroe wrote:

Iris wrote:

jeanmonroe wrote:Panda:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10323929/Gerry-McCann-contacted-police-after-abduction-threat-to-twins.html

The 3As closed in August 2009.  The Truth of the Lie was published in September 2009.  Clearly the hacks at the Torygraph don't know how to operate a calendar.

Sorry to correct you but his book was launched on 24 July 2008

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id137.html

As early as that? I stand corrected. I know Stevo self-published an unauthorised version in English around November 2009, most of it nicked from Anna Esse's translations, but I have no idea how much it sold. In any case, the "explosion" on the 3As was caused by the release of the police files on DVD rather than any book, translated or otherwise.

So, it rather looks like the McCanns waited, once again, to take legal action, this time until it appeared that Gonçalo Amaral had made a significant amount of money from his book, and was therefore worth suing. One wonders why the McCanns didn't sue the author of the book A Culpa dos McCann (The McCanns' Guilt) Manuel Catarino. Never heard of this book, whose publication pre-dates that of Gonçalo Amaral by seven months? Perhaps that's why the author has not been sued! The book didn't sell! He wasn't worth suing!
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A Culpa dos McCann (The McCanns' Guilt) Manuel Catarino.

People should really GOOGLE this BOOK!

Published 15th December 2007!

EXACTLY the same 'conclusions' published in it as GA's AND 'final' report!

BUT MCCANNS DID NOT SUE HIM!

"EXPLAIN THAT" MR WRONG!

ETA: A Culpa dos McCann (The McCanns' Guilt)

PRE-DATED Mr GA's book BY EIGHT and a HALF MONTHS!

OK i 've done it for you.

http://www.anorak.co.uk/178443/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-manuel-catarino-writes-the-guilt-of-the-mccanns-and-international-crimewatch.html/

Madeleine McCann: Manuel Catarino Writes, The Guilt Of The McCanns And International Crimewatch
by Anorak | 15th, December 2007

The McCann’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell says: "That's  his POINT OF VIEW" – WE disagree. Kate and Gerry have not been given any special treatment”

(notice the use of the word 'WE' CM uses, imo up to his neck involved in the whole thing, although NOW DESPERATELY trying to distance himself by not mentioning the McCanns at all on his PCC 'website')
http://www.clarence4pavilion.com/more-about-me

BUT THEY WON'T BE SUING Manuel Catarino!

MADELEINE: “PLAN TO KEEP KATE IN CUSTODY” – Manuel Catarino has written a book. In The Guilt of the McCanns, he writes: “Kate, exhausted, keeps repeating the same. She played with the children in the living room, she put them to bed – and by 7.30pm they were already asleep. The police don’t believe her. They think Madeleine died accidentally in the living room and the parents, in a panic, fearful of the consequences, interested "ONLY in DEFENDING their reputation, HID her body and STAGED her 'abduction'"

Says Clarence Mitchell, It’s “another shameful attempt to make money out of the situation”. Clarence Mitchell is paid to represent he McCanns, how much is not said

MCCANNS DID NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO SUING THIS GUY!

WHY NOT?

Surely his 'claims' would have instantly stopped people 'searching' wouldn't they?

(ps: having a photographic 'memory' really is a curse, believe me!)

Thanks for that, jean.
Not seen any of that before.

wjk wrote:Thanks for that, jean.
Not seen any of that before.

My brain 'urts!

Thanks jeanmonroe. Perhaps if there's a sudden surge in interest for Manuel Catarino's book, he'll be next. Plain for all to see that it's the money they're after, nothing more nor less, no care for poor little Madeleine at all.

Who is this person Manuel Catarino? I don't suppose he's ex PJ officer. I don't suppose he had any involvement in the police investigation. I think perhaps the other thing that upsets the McCanns so much is that the police came to such conclusions and a former policeman, heavily involved in co-ordinating the original investigation, then writes about those conclusions, which carries more weight with the public and sells more books than by someone who was not involved.

I'm not sure if I've heard of this book before either.
 
More information about it and the author.
 
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2007/12/guilt-of-mccanns.html

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I'm not sure if I've heard of this book before either.
 
More information about it and the author.
 
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2007/12/guilt-of-mccanns.html

It dosen't matter if anyone has heard of this book.
They have NOW.
Manuel Catarino has written a book. In The Guilt of the McCanns.

The salient points IN the book he wrote in 2007 are that:
1 Madeleine died accidentally in apartment 5A.
2 The parents hid her body
3 The parents staged an 'abduction'

So, in writing, in a book, published 8 1/2 months BEFORE GA's book, truly held believed 'conclusions' had been printed in a book.

Yet the McCanns did not sue the author.

But they are suing the author a much later book stating the same truly held believed 'conclusions'

So how did the first book with believed 'conclusions' NOT hamper, hinder, jeopardise the 'search'?

When a second book, published much later, with the SAME truly held believed 'conclusions' DID, according to the McCanns, hamper, hinder and jeopardised the 'search'

jeanmonroe wrote:

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I'm not sure if I've heard of this book before either.
 
More information about it and the author.
 
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2007/12/guilt-of-mccanns.html

It dosen't matter if anyone has heard of this book.
They have NOW.
Manuel Catarino has written a book. In The Guilt of the McCanns.

The salient points IN the book he wrote are that:
1 Madeleine died accidentally in apartment 5A.
2 The parents hid her body
3 The parents staged an 'abduction'

So, in writing, in a book, published 8 1/2 months BEFORE GA's book 'conclusions' had been printed in a book.

Yet the McCanns did not sue the author.

But are suing the author a much later book stating the same 'conclusions'

So how did the first book with 'conclusions' NOT hamper, hinder, jeopardise the 'search'?

When a second book, published much later, with the SAME 'conclusions' DID hamper, hinder and jeopardised the 'search'?

Why has this not been brought up in Court, or perhaps it will be. If we can all see how obvious it is that money and not libel is at the heart of the actions the Macs have taken, why hasn't everyone else, especially those representing Snr Amaral, come to the same conclusion.

dazedandconfused

The McCanns won't be mentioning this much earlier devastating, search hampering, harmful book anytime soon in a court room near you!
And we all know WHY, don't we?
They DID NOT sue the author!

jeanmonroe wrote:dazedandconfused

The McCanns won't be mentioning this much earlier devastating, search hampering, harmful book anytime soon in a court room near you!
And we all know WHY, don't we?
They DID NOT sue the author!

I suppose one of the defence lawyers might just bring it up in their own good time.

jeanmonroe wrote:Panda:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/10323929/Gerry-McCann-contacted-police-after-abduction-threat-to-twins.html
By Claire Carter and Catarina Aleixo
5:12PM BST 20 Sep 2013


AnneGuedes (who was IN court)

Clare Carter doesn't exist or wasn't in Lisbon.
It's amazing how they extract a few elements and spin them. You vaguely recognise parts of what you heard, but certainly not the feeling you had when you were listening. Mr Wright's attempts to blame Mr Amaral were more betrayed by his seizing any opportunity to insinuate this or that than by categorical assessments.

Thanks jeanmonroe........the Telegraph have never been known for writing too much about the McCanns , but now they have gone overboard and no room for comments. I am not a member of twitter or facebook but would ccertainly set the record straight , if anyone sees a response to this Article could they let us know?? I didn't notice any other Paper reporting yesterday, maybe Iris is right and it is Political because Cameron will come out of this , not with one egg on his face but several for the expense almost £4 million by now which SY have wasted.

Makes a change from......Hair in car came from a dead body ...the telegraph

kitti wrote:Makes a change from......Hair in car came from a dead body ...the telegraph

Kitti, this must be the Spanish Reporter used to go to PDL on the first day of the hearing. I did ask if anyone could find the e-mail address for the Paper and I would email the Editor, failing that , email the London address to voice our concern.This Reporter is telling downright lies and should be stopped before the next hearing.

Just a couple of bits of info re the trial from UK Justice Forum:

1) Libel trial Day 4.
   Maria Isabel Stilwell (Writer and Newspaper Editor) evidence.
   Final witness to date, Report later today.

2) The last session is now the 19th of November.

almostgothic wrote:Just a couple of bits of info re the trial from UK Justice Forum:

1) Libel trial Day 4.
   Maria Isabel Stilwell (Writer and Newspaper Editor) evidence.
   Final witness to date, Report later today.

2) The last session is now the 19th of November.

A jornalista e escritora Isabel Stilwell está de regresso aos livros e de novo com um romance histórico. A writer of historical romance novels. Should be a very reliable witness then.  

Post removed as it supplied a link to someone not connected with the McCann Python Flying Circus.

Mentioned here, in her journalistic capacity:
http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Stilwell_-_Fair_World..html

 

Iris wrote:

almostgothic wrote:Just a couple of bits of info re the trial from UK Justice Forum:

1) Libel trial Day 4.
   Maria Isabel Stilwell (Writer and Newspaper Editor) evidence.
   Final witness to date, Report later today.

2) The last session is now the 19th of November.

A jornalista e escritora Isabel Stilwell está de regresso aos livros e de novo com um romance histórico. A writer of historical romance novels.  Should be a very reliable witness then.  

That's probably where kate got her inspiration to fantasise in her own Novels .....I can't stop laughing.  

Jerry Lawton has tweeted that Gerry McCann hopes to appear as a witness tomorrow.

dazedandconfused wrote:Jerry Lawton has tweeted that Gerry McCann hopes to appear as a witness tomorrow.

...But, no doubt 'work commitments' will keep him away.

dazedandconfused wrote:Jerry Lawton has tweeted that Gerry McCann hopes to appear as a witness tomorrow.

Desperate times need desperate measures, maybe. Their case is not making good progress with the witnesses so far, so bring in the heavies!  

dazedandconfused wrote:Jerry Lawton has tweeted that Gerry McCann hopes to appear as a witness tomorrow.

"Hopes" to appear? What's stopping him?

I thought that once an official witness list had been issued in advance it would have to be stuck to.
Is Duarte going to try to shoehorn Last Hope SuperGerry in somehow? Are there precedents?

Maybe this is as credible as her 'hoping that witnesses will be able to make statements by letter' spiel.
If a witness comes in at very short notice, the defence lawyers should object on the grounds of insufficient time to prepare questions for him.

Having said that, it would be great news if he took the stand UNDER OATH.

Will he be taking his flip chart in with him?
I think we should be told ...