Lisbon Libel Trial McCanns v Amaral

Whatever happened to madeleine was and is down to the parents..


It's not the PJ's fault they did a good job and came to the conclusion that Madeleine died in pdl and the parents must bare not some but ALL the responsibility for this happening.


Even IF and I mean IF she was abducted it would still be the parents fault as they went out and left her alone. They layed down a timetable off going out and coming back at certain times to enable someone to take her , simple as that......they were negligent in what they did by letting this happen as they were told the 'night before' by Madeleine that they woke up and cried for their parents...what if just say this was true, what if Madeleine had lifted the crying child out off it's cot, what if she had taken the child by the hand out off the open patio doors, what if the crying child had fallen down the stone steps and died or fallen into the swimming pool and died, who would get the blame...Madeleine?.....no.....it would be the parents fault for being negligent, even though they would be suffering from the death off that child, it would still be their fault for allowing this to happen.


So how can the mccanns say they suffer from guilt for not being their YET blame mr amaral for calling them 'negligent' and are suing him for saying that.

I honestly think they did not think through the implications of their suit against Amaral . Smethurst is a Corporate Lawyer for Kennedy's Companies and a Direcctor of Madeleine's fund. He was the one who went with Gerry to PDL to find a Portugese Lawyer but had they consulted Carter Ruck I think they would have been advised not to sue Amaral .

However, greed got the better of them, a nice little earner of E1 million after their success against the Express probably appealed to them. Then Kate earning a small fortune writing two books, correction, 1 book with 29 page addendum classed as second book. Also selling merchandise from their Blog and the holiday Pack containing a poster of Madeleine and drawing pins for the Holidaymaker to post on tree trunks or prominent places while on Holiday
really was inspirational.

YET.....not once have they engaged a Firm with experience in searching for missing children when they could have probably had a meeting with MI5 courtesy of Tony Blair if they had asked and been given helpful advice.

I hope Amaral wins and he also sues Duarte for not returning the books until forced to by a Court Order, denying him and the Publisher an income from the sale.

I've just finished a blog post on Amaral's "Outrageous claims"

http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-madeleine-mccann-case-goncalo.html

Thanks AnnaEsse.....crikey youv'e been busy!!! Is that Mike Hitchens the Australian who used to write brilliant Articles?

"Isabel Duarte mentioned that the following sessions are scheduled for September 19, 20 and 27, then continuing on October 2 and 8, and concluding on the 5th of November"

This caught my attention from the Joanna Morais Blog quite a few sessions then...note the last session is 5th November, Bonfire Night.!!! 

I can think of a few people whose effigies would make wonderful guys!

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I can think of a few people whose effigies would make wonderful guys!

Hi NBY, Let's hope Amaral wins and he and the people of PDL also celebrate that night. I hope the McCanns will be blacklisted by the OC for all the publicity and staff reduncies caused by them.

AnnaEsse brilliant. so this "child psychologist" only met them twice, and the testimony of that other witness related situations before the book was published. What on earth is going on?

Am I correct in thinking that the Mccanns only sued about a year AFTER Amaral's book was published ie they sued summer 2009.

if it was so full of lies and damaging the search why did they not sue then?

Surely it could not have been that after a year his book had made big MONEY???? Most writers make very little money so no point in sueing unless there is a chance of payment of damages if you win.

That is correct as far as my understanding goes.

We have seen though with the prosecution of Tony Bennett - not a pauper but not a rich man either - that their main aim is to silence those who pose the most threat to them.

Of course, if they can get some money out of their victims as well, that's the icing on the cake.

Panda:
"I wonder what the Criminal Lawyer had to say???"
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Apparently i believe it was Mr McBride, the person who DEFENDED now convicted paedophile, Chris Langham'

It has been said yesterday that he could only provide very, very VAGUE answers. (he didn't KNOW!)

And why would the McCanns hire this defender of paedos when they suspect that their child was 'abducted' by a paedo!

Hmm.  

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/may/17/privacy-law-mccanns-press-assault
 
A link to a self-explanatory article from Angus McBride as to why in his opinion a privacy law is needed.
 
This is a man who describes Kate's abomination of a book as "deeply moving" which does I think tell us all we need to know about him.
 
Sorry to be crude, but the only thing that book moves for most people is their bowels and then it has its uses for cleaning up the consequences!

James wrote:Am I correct in thinking that the Mccanns only sued about a year AFTER Amaral's book was published ie they sued summer 2009.

if it was so full of lies and damaging the search why did they not sue then?

Surely it could not have been that after a year his book had made big MONEY???? Most writers make very little money so no point in sueing unless there is a chance of payment of damages if you win.

I presume Amaral got a retainer and Royalties from the sale, not a fortune , but it was published in a few languages which helped . The McCanns had to cope with Tony's 60 reasons and take him to Court and probably were unaware of Amaral's book because it was written in Portugese and couldn't be published while he was still a Policeman. Duarte said 160,000 copies were sold, no mention of the Video.

Back to the Criminal Lawyer, Panda:

Yesterday.

"though he presented himself as a specialist of criminal defence and management of the media, Mr McBride, this morning, wasn't ABLE to give even VAGUE numbers when asked by GA's lawyer (Victor Santos de Oliveira) to compare the media effects of the disappearance, the arguido status and the book."

Oh dear!

First Ms Loach's 'forgetfulness' (day 1) Couldn't even remember when her life defining 'masterpiece', the Mockumentary, was screened in Portugal!
Now this!

Where are the 'GLOVES OFF' BIG BOYZ when you need them?

Panda wrote:

James wrote:Am I correct in thinking that the Mccanns only sued about a year AFTER Amaral's book was published ie they sued summer 2009.

if it was so full of lies and damaging the search why did they not sue then?

Surely it could not have been that after a year his book had made big MONEY???? Most writers make very little money so no point in sueing unless there is a chance of payment of damages if you win.

I presume Amaral got a retainer and Royalties from the sale, not a fortune , but it was published in a few languages which helped . The McCanns had to cope with Tony's 60 reasons and take him to Court and probably were unaware of Amaral's book because  it was written in Portugese and couldn't be published while he was still a Policeman. Duarte said 160,000 copies were sold, no mention of the Video.

According to the stats on my blog http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com/ people from all around the world were googling 'Goncalo Amaral' or 'Truth of the Lie' or 'Portuguese detective in Maddie case' etc - more than 19,000 people found the blog and read his book on the first day of the Trial and 22,543 on the second day. And, already today, the blog is still very busy.

Don't know how many are googling 'madeleine' by Kate McCann.

3? 5? but NOT the 22,543 for 'Truth of the Lie'

ETA; actually it is 41,543 that have googled 'Truth of the LIe' in the first 2 days.

7:51pm UK, Saturday May 16, 2009

The parents of Madeleine McCann are to sue former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral for defamation.




Kate and Gerry McCann say ex-cop's claims are hampering the hunt for Madeleine


Kate and Gerry McCann are to take action over comments made by the man who previously led the botched inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance.

In a statement, they said: "We - together with our three children Madeleine, Sean and Amelie - are taking this legal action against Goncalo Amaral over his entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims - made in all types of media, both within Portugal and beyond - that Madeleine is not only dead, but that we, her parents, were somehow involved in concealing her body."

The couple, from Rothley, Leicestershire, said they are taking action because his claims that Madeleine is dead are hampering the search for their daughter.

The decision was taken in a bid to prevent further publication of Amaral's "deeply offensive" book The Truth of the Lie.

Also his TV documentary, and his "disgraceful thesis" that they were involved in their daughter's disappearance.

The statement continued: "The primary reason for our legal action is simple: to stop any negative effect that these absurd and deeply hurtful claims may be having on the ongoing search for Madeleine.

"We can no longer stand back and watch as Mr Amaral tries to convince the entire world that Madeleine is dead.

"Nor can we allow this blatant injustice to Madeleine, with its obvious risk of hindering our attempts to find her, to continue.

"Mr Amaral's entirely unjustified claims have not only brought indescribable devastation and suffering to our lives, they have hugely compounded the already immense pain and anxiety we have endured since Madeleine's abduction."

Madeleine disappeared two years ago in Praia da Luz, Portugal, while her parents dined in a nearby tapas bar.

More follows...

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Update:

McCanns To Sue Detective Over 'Slurs' Sky News

8:14pm UK, Saturday May 16, 2009

The parents of Madeleine McCann are to sue former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral for defamation.

Kate and Gerry McCann are to take action over comments made by the man who previously led the botched inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance.

In a statement, they said: "We - together with our three children Madeleine, Sean and Amelie - are taking this legal action against Goncalo Amaral over his entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims - made in all types of media, both within Portugal and beyond - that Madeleine is not only dead, but that we, her parents, were somehow involved in concealing her body."

The couple, from Rothley, Leicestershire, said they are taking action because his claims that Madeleine is dead are hampering the search for their daughter.

The decision was taken in a bid to prevent further publication of Amaral's "deeply offensive" book The Truth of the Lie.

Also his TV documentary, and his "disgraceful thesis" that they were involved in their daughter's disappearance.

The statement continued: "The primary reason for our legal action is simple: to stop any negative effect that these absurd and deeply hurtful claims may be having on the ongoing search for Madeleine.

"We can no longer stand back and watch as Mr Amaral tries to convince the entire world that Madeleine is dead.

"Nor can we allow this blatant injustice to Madeleine, with its obvious risk of hindering our attempts to find her, to continue.

"Mr Amaral's entirely unjustified claims have not only brought indescribable devastation and suffering to our lives, they have hugely compounded the already immense pain and anxiety we have endured since Madeleine's abduction."

Madeleine disappeared two years ago in Praia da Luz, Portugal, while her parents dined in a nearby tapas bar.

The couple recently marked the second anniversary with a PR offensive incorporating renewed appeals for information into Madeleine's disappearance.

They will join families of other vanished youngsters at London's South Bank on Monday to mark International Missing Children's Day.

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This might clarify matters. Madeleine had to be removed from the claim because she is a Ward of Court.

In a statement, they said: "We - together with our three children Madeleine, Sean and Amelie - are taking this legal action against Goncalo Amaral over his entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims - made in all types of media, both within Portugal and beyond - that Madeleine is not only dead, but that we, her parents, were somehow involved in concealing her body."
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The writ was in the names of their THREE children originally but now that has been 'amended' to the TWO children, they have left.

I'm sure there is a legal reason for this, but my take on it is: HOW can a MISSING person "file a claim" for Libel?

spect I can't understand. Normally a Ward of court is either being ill treated by their parents, or has no Parents and is in a Home. While they were in PDL a QC arrived to advise them he pointed out that if the McCanns were arrested, if Madeleine was made a Ward of Court they would be responsible to search for her. They tried , through Justice Hogg to get info from Leicester Police on what was happening but the Chief Constable intervened and said it was an ongoing case so the McCanns only got 8 pages of unimportant material.

Being made a ward off court means the court decide on madeleines welfare now, not the parents.


Must off stuck in their craw that they couldn't use Madeleine to get money AGAIN?

kitti wrote:Being made a ward off court means the court decide on madeleines welfare now, not the parents.


Must off stuck in their craw that they couldn't use Madeleine to get money AGAIN?

yes kitti, they obviously listened to Smethhurst a Corporate Lawyer who went with Gerry to Portugal to find a Lawyer to take on the case. I don't know where they found Duarte but she is a loose cannon judging by her performance at the injunction hearing. I can't understand why they engaged her again when Amaral's Publisher had to get a Court Order for her to return the Books.

Do you remember there was some Press reports querying that Gerry and Smethurst booked in to a top Hotel , Flight and all expenses courtesy of the Fund.

I am sorry I haven't posted for a long time but I carefully read all your wonderful posts that are so full of wisdom and thoughtful ideas.

I am praying and crossing all my fingers that Madeleine receives the justice she deserves and that Mr Amaral is clearly seen to be the fantastic brave detective that he is.

I am of course like you all completely baffled why it appears anybody who looks into this case for 15 minutes can see the only true suspects in this case.

I am also at a loss to understand how the Tapas witnesses can just be allowed to disappear by the press, the police etc.

I am hopeful though. Thanks again to you all. You should be very proud of yourselves.  

@ Freja53
Thank you very much for your kind words.

Annabel wrote:http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/09/defence-for-goncalo-amaral-goes-on.html

Thanks for that, Annabel.
And thanks to Joana and to Astro for their info on this current case.

  

Freja53 wrote:I am sorry I haven't posted for a long time but I carefully read all your wonderful posts that are so full of wisdom and thoughtful ideas.

I am praying and crossing all my fingers that Madeleine receives the justice she deserves and that Mr Amaral is clearly seen to be the fantastic brave detective that he is.

I am of course like you all completely baffled why it appears anybody who looks into this case for 15 minutes can see the only true suspects in this case.

I am also at a loss to understand how the Tapas witnesses can just be allowed to disappear by the press, the police etc.

I am hopeful though. Thanks again to you all. You should be very proud of yourselves.  

AnnaEsse wrote:I've just finished a blog post on Amaral's "Outrageous claims"

http://frommybigdesk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/the-madeleine-mccann-case-goncalo.html

That was fantastic Anna, thank you!   

A very timely compilation of the blatant obfuscation and lies we have seen over the years from the gruesome twosome and co.  I pray that the McCanns lose their libel case against Goncalo Amaral, and that the world will finally come to see this grotesque pair for the selfish, unsavory characters they truly are.