Saudi University allegedly left female Student to die

Hi Panda

All told I have worked in Saudi Arabia for; on different contracts for some 10+ years usually with my wife on married status (otherwise I couldn't have stuck it)

Western women (apart from being ogled by every male from 8 to 80) have a peculiar place in their society. For example as you know women cannot drive, I should rephrase that. Are not allowed to. On ARAMCO compounds they can; when I was there it was regarded as foreign soil almost. When they have a car accident, which they do frequently the police award blame in percentages, and over 50% you go to jail without collecting your £200.

My bosses wife Laverne was driving one day and a young Saudi came barrelling out of a side street and collected her on the passenger side. It was obviously 100% his fault and equally obviously there was no way in this wide world they were going to send a Saudi male to jail for colliding with a mere woman, a foreign one at that. They cast around and finally decided that her wing mirror, on her side was out of alignment, This allowed them to award her 51% of the blame and him 49%. The young man was not of course insured in any way, so that didn't matter It kept him out of chokey. The funny part comes in this lack of insurance, he owed my boss for the repairs to the car. Fortunately for him his parents had money, so they could cover it, otherwise he almost certainly would have gone to jail for debt. then the car was officially owned by my boss, a man so that was all right.

katertaif wrote:Hi Panda

All told I have worked in Saudi Arabia for; on different contracts for some 10+ years usually with my wife on married status (otherwise I couldn't have stuck it)

Western women (apart from being ogled by every male from 8 to 80) have a peculiar place in their society. For example as you know women cannot drive, I should rephrase that. Are not allowed to. On ARAMCO compounds they can; when I was there it was regarded as foreign soil almost. When they have a car accident, which they do frequently the police award blame in percentages, and over 50% you go to jail without collecting your £200.

My bosses wife Laverne was driving one day and a young Saudi came barrelling out of a side street and collected her on the passenger side. It was obviously 100% his fault and equally obviously there was no way in this wide world they were going to send a Saudi male to jail for colliding with a mere woman, a foreign one at that. They cast around and finally decided that her wing mirror, on her side was out of alignment, This allowed them to award her 51% of the blame and him 49%. The young man was not of course insured in any way, so that didn't matter It kept him out of chokey. The funny part comes in this lack of insurance, he owed my boss for the repairs to the car. Fortunately for him his parents had money, so they could cover it, otherwise he almost certainly would have gone to jail for debt. then the car was officially owned by my boss, a man so that was all right.

Morning katertaif, I wouldn't have gone there is the first place LOL.!!

The World has opened up so much due to T.V. and migration and particularly in the U.K., a small Country , we are anxious about the takeover of these immigrants who make no attempt to integrate. Sony Presentation a few years ago reported that while the average Western family has 2 to 3 children, the Muslims have 5 to 7 so in 2 generations they will rule the World. My American friend told me a funny story, the Muslim women in New York wanted to wear the veil on their passports, the Mayor drew the line at that.  

Morning Panda

Unfortunately I agree with you, that the population growth will ensure the eventual annexation of the western countries to Islam. There are several other factors which add to it. Scam Marriages, the unofficially allowed practice of Muslim men to have more than one wife (They are theoretically allowed four)

I read a story in a Glasgow paper a couple of years back when a Muslim caught speeding, claimed in his defence that he was rushing from one wife to another for some particular reason, I forget what it was now. the problem being the court accepted it.

I went there for the money like the rest of us but as I say, I couldn't have stood it for very long without my wife being with me. or when I was on 28 and 28, that wasn't too bad.

Two Saudis were talking, and one asked his pal if making love to a woman was work or pleasure. After some thought his mate replied that it was pleasure. his friend asked him why he thought that. His mate replied if it was work we'd have an expat over here to do it for us.

Then again you've probably heard about the time Saudi Arabia went to war with Israel - North Korea got the contract.

Iv'e had a chequered career katertaif from Barmaid to Company and Trust Administrator in a major Bank and one job was for the NHS as a Receptionist at various Clinics. One morning I was working at a clinic in the Docks Area and an old Muslim man came in and practically threw 5 or 6 Benefit Books at me, couln't speak a word of English so I phoned a Dept at the clinic named 'Liaison' and an Arab woman came to help him and spoke Arabic as well as English.

It turned out there were 7 employed in that department and their job was to act as Translators , take Foreigners who couldn't speak English to Dentists, Doctors, the DHSS, Solicitors etc...........can you believe it???? .


No wonder the UK is in the state it is in

Couldn't agree with you more Panda. I cannot see why we need interpreters at all. other countries do not have them and they seem to manage. I lived in S. Africa for ten years. No one provided an interpreter for Afrikaans, I had to learn to speak it, so that I could hold many jobs. The same applied to whichever tribal tongue was spoken in that area. No one was on hand to interpret. I did in fact find, as most of us did, that the Afrikaner would take great delight in shall we say leading you astray which led to some amusing incidents, not so funny at the time.

In Nigeria they mostly speak English, but in China, Russia, and even Saudi Arabia. No interpreters were provided. We are about the only ones who do it apart from producing official forms in so many languages they are about the size of the telephone directory.

The provision of interpreters you may have gathered is one of my pet hobby horses, and I totally disagree with it.

katertaif wrote:Couldn't  agree with you more Panda. I cannot see why we need interpreters at all. other countries do not have them and they seem to manage. I lived in S. Africa for ten years. No one provided an interpreter for Afrikaans, I had to learn to speak it, so that I could hold many jobs. The same applied to whichever tribal tongue was spoken in that area. No one was on hand to interpret. I did in fact find, as most of us did, that the Afrikaner would take great delight in shall we say leading you astray which led to some amusing incidents, not so funny at the time.

In Nigeria they mostly speak English, but in China, Russia, and even Saudi Arabia. No interpreters were provided. We are about the only ones who do it apart from producing official forms in so many languages they are about the size of the telephone directory.

The provision of interpreters you may have gathered is one of my pet hobby horses, and I totally disagree with it.

I queried it at the time and suggested these immigrants must surely have English speaking Relatives or Friends who could help them sort out their finances or whatever. The DHSS Forms are printed in 14 languages....did you know that??? Did your Wife have to learn the language as well, could she go out on her own? I'm quite well travelled but never fancied visiting Africa for some reason .

Good morning Panda

My wife learned enough to be able to get by. My case was different insofar as I made a conscious effort. We had some friends who were Afrikaners. He (Piet) undertook to teach me, in fact his children did most of it while I in turn brushed up their English. I agree that the majority of immigrants today have friends and/or family already here, and they should help them speak English. The whole subject of having interpreters for them is in my mind a disgrace and an expensive one.

No I didn't know they published forms in 14 languages, I knew it was a lot but 1 is ridiculous.

Morning Katertaif, I could go on about the waste in the NHS but won't bore you or go off topic  

We in the Western World read about Wives being stoned for having a fling, hands cut off for stealing, a Man having a Concubine of several Wives etc and see the Arabs as barbaric , yet there is no evidence that they interfere in other Countries affairs or try to overthrow Governments . I do know Sharia Banks have a system we in Britain could consider, it would certainly stop house prices fluctuating so much . The Banks do not lend money to buy a House, they buy it and a deal is signed with the young couple . The Bank charges Rent until the house is paid for at which time the couple receive the Deeds.

It was on another Forum I was discussing the Arabs having child brides , some as young as 6 yrs of age!!! This man had lived in the Middle East for years. He said it was a family thing , the Parents were paid and the child was not molested at that age, she was kept with the rest of the Harem and used when she was child bearing age as others became too old, it was to keep the Dynasty going.