TROUBLE IN YEMEN

kitti wrote:I hate double standards.


A off licence/supermarket which was stopped from opening in a  lovely quite residential street has somehow now been allowed by a Judge to open...opening from 7am to 11pm EVERY day with loading and unloading starting at 6am with a family living above it and next to it with 2 children with autism and these children are sensitive to noise.


Seems money and booze comes before health.



Anyway the double  standard is....it's going to be run by Muslim owners.


They don't mind making money out off selling drink to underage children BUT will chop your head off if they see you doing this.


My friend said Muslim groups walk round preaching near her about the evils off drink but they sell it in their off licence to these individuals.

Who's they?

Lioned wrote:Wether or not Muslims are allowed to drink alcohol is a matter of interpretation of the Quaran just as the Bible has many different interpretations.

Mohammed drank wine and you can find parts of the Quaran that encourage the use of grapes to make wine.

They may well eat babies as well for all i know,get over it.

Just like adultery and gay sex was punished with stonings to death in the Bible. What annoys me about all religions is that people who claim to be followers of each of them pick the parts of the holy books that are convenient to follow and forget about those who aren't. That said, yeah, interpretation seems to be the appropriate word. Apparently the Old Testament (which is full of violence, death and hatred) should be seen as an allegory or a series of metaphors. Many of those who say that, however, say at the same time that all the violence and hatred in the Quaran is what their religion is all about. What annoys me is the ignorance re Muslims in particular. Many of them consider themselves Muslims but have nothing to do with religion the same way a vast majority of people who call themselves Catholics don't give a damn about the rules of their Church or what the Pope says which is why they have pre-marital sex, get divorced, use birth control, get IVF, have abortions, etc. The same goes, of course, for Muslims. Most of my father's Muslim work mates drank. And I don't mean water.

Went for a walk down my local shops today and blow me if i didnt walk straight into one of 'them' ! She had all the clothes on and everything !
Couldnt believe it as i live in a really posh and somewhat secluded area in the countryside.
It was only last week i saw a black man coming towards me,couldnt believe my eyes and off course i crossed the road immediately,well you just cant take chances nowadays.
Previous to this i only ever see one Muslim girl usually outside Waitrose selling the Big Issue.She has a young baby and an ear infection.I know that because i always stop to talk to her and she is very polite and speaks good English and she looks forward to seeing me as i always buy one of her papers.
Sometimes their is a different young man there of middle East appearance selling the magazine but although he is quite polite he doesn't talk much but i feel obliged to help him aswell seeing as at least he is making an effort.
Not like them big fat chip eating sloths,usually white British,who live on benefits and think the World owes them a favour.
Going to have to think about moving to Sandbanks if this continues.

Claudia79 wrote:

kitti wrote:I hate double standards.


A off licence/supermarket which was stopped from opening in a  lovely quite residential street has somehow now been allowed by a Judge to open...opening from 7am to 11pm EVERY day with loading and unloading starting at 6am with a family living above it and next to it with 2 children with autism and these children are sensitive to noise.


Seems money and booze comes before health.



Anyway the double  standard is....it's going to be run by Muslim owners.


[color=#990033]They don't mind making money out off selling drink to underage children BUT will chop your head off if they see
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My friend said Muslim groups walk round preaching near her about the evils off drink but they sell it in their off licence to these individuals.

Who's they?

Moderate Muslims .

kitti wrote:

Claudia79 wrote:

kitti wrote:I hate double standards.


A off licence/supermarket which was stopped from opening in a  lovely quite residential street has somehow now been allowed by a Judge to open...opening from 7am to 11pm EVERY day with loading and unloading starting at 6am with a family living above it and next to it with 2 children with autism and these children are sensitive to noise.


Seems money and booze comes before health.



Anyway the double  standard is....it's going to be run by Muslim owners.


[color=#990033]They don't mind making money out off selling drink to underage children BUT will chop your head off if they see
you doing this.[/

















My friend said Muslim groups walk round preaching near her about the evils off drink but they sell it in their off licence to these individuals.

Who's they?

Moderate Muslims .

Right. Makes sense, finally. Since there are so many of those terrible Muslims chopping heads off in the UK, British citizens can no longer consume alcohol in the UK. I never understood why the McCanns and their pals decided to go to the Algarve and drink the way they did but I finally get it. They had no alternative.

SAUDI FORCES ARE BOMBARDING SAADA? AREA,CIVILIANS HAVE SUPPOSEDLY FLED.
HOW LONG BEFORE A SAUDI INVASION.

Badboy wrote:SAUDI FORCES ARE BOMBARDING SAADA? AREA,CIVILIANS HAVE SUPPOSEDLY FLED.
HOW LONG BEFORE A SAUDI INVASION.

Well they certainly have the men and materiel Badboy, to mount an invasion of the Yemen. It could however, bring them into direct conflict with the Iranian Ayatollahs, I imagine there will be a great deal of soul searching before they do anything so final as an invasion. It could certainly endanger the oil supplies on which we still depend so heavily.

A MOROCCAN AIRCRAFT HAS CRASHED,SUPPOSEDLY SHOT DOWN BY REBELS,TRUCE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING INTO EFFECT TO ALLOW HUMANITARIAN AID.
LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

Badboy wrote:A  MOROCCAN AIRCRAFT HAS CRASHED,SUPPOSEDLY SHOT DOWN BY REBELS,TRUCE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING INTO EFFECT TO ALLOW HUMANITARIAN AID.
LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

None of the combatants have shown much interest in humanitarian aid thus far. Like you, I will be interested to see what happens.

SUNNI MILITIA HAS TAKEN DHALEA FROM HOUTHIS AFTER FIERCE FIGHTING.
HEAVY FIGHTING IN TAIZ, I HAVE SEEN A MAP SUGGESTING AL QAEDA HAS TAEN OVER ALL/MOST EASTERN/CENTRAL YEMEN.

Badboy wrote:SUNNI MILITIA HAS TAKEN DHALEA FROM HOUTHIS AFTER FIERCE FIGHTING.
HEAVY FIGHTING IN TAIZ, I HAVE SEEN A MAP SUGGESTING AL QAEDA HAS TAEN OVER ALL/MOST EASTERN/CENTRAL YEMEN.

Can you please give a reliable source ! Thank you.

Badboy wrote:SUNNI MILITIA HAS TAKEN DHALEA FROM HOUTHIS AFTER FIERCE FIGHTING.
HEAVY FIGHTING IN TAIZ, I HAVE SEEN A MAP SUGGESTING AL QAEDA HAS TAEN OVER ALL/MOST EASTERN/CENTRAL YEMEN.

The problem we seem to have is that in a normal civil war (assuming there is such a thing) there are two sides, and sooner or later one of them will be victorious. In the Middle East the problem is compounded by fighting among several groups, not just two. This apart from any other consideration has the effect of additionally Killing, maiming, and brutalising the innocents in all this. It also constantly leaves the possibility, even the probability of continued conflict with no clear victor and everyone claiming to be that victor. The way is constantly left open for disaffected elements to begin hostilities all over again.

Apart from the various combatants happily sending each other to paradise,, there are two other sovereign nations rattling their purchased weaponry at each other namely Saudi Arabia and Iran. If they get actively involved, we will  see huge changes all over the world. as the lifeblood of our machine age will almost certainly be adversely affected.

Katertaif, you are an idiot if you believe this !

" If they get actively involved, we will  see huge changes all over the world. as the lifeblood of our machine age will almost certainly be adverselly affected."

What huge changes around the World are you actually anticipating then ?

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REBELS AND SAUDI TRADING FIRE ON BORDER.
WONDER WHEN SAUDIS WILL INVADE

[quote="Badboy"]REBELS AND SAUDI TRADING FIRE ON BORDER.
WONDER WHEN SAUDIS WILL INVADE[/quote.

A good question badboy. If and when they do (and they won't without US agreement if not active aid) The fat will be in the fire. Iran has threatened again to close the Straits of Hormuz. During the Iran/Iraq war they mined the Straits, and badly damaged an American Frigate the USS Samuel B. Johnson. Reagan's response was devastating. The Straits were closed for a short while during the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and before they were re-opened, oil doubled in price. there were shortages resulting in a number of dangerous incidents among US citizens waiting in queues for "gas"

The shortfall then was only a quarter of what it would be if Iran actually took steps to close the straits. Of course they would be forced to open them again, but even a short delay could do damage to a fragile oil dependent world economy as I think you will agree. Then again since that US frigate was damaged in the 1980's Iran has invested heavily in armed coastal vessels.

With all this taken into account, I personally can't see a Saudi invasion of the Yemen, but then.......

Badboy wrote:REBELS AND SAUDI TRADING FIRE ON BORDER.
WONDER WHEN SAUDIS WILL INVADE

I see the evening evening news now claims a strong IS presence in the Yemen. I doubt if they are there to try to broker peace

Badboy wrote:SUNNI MILITIA HAS TAKEN DHALEA FROM HOUTHIS AFTER FIERCE FIGHTING.
HEAVY FIGHTING IN TAIZ, I HAVE SEEN A MAP SUGGESTING AL QAEDA HAS TAEN OVER ALL/MOST EASTERN/CENTRAL YEMEN.

I have now seen the map I assume you referred to Badboy. It is looking grim on all sides. Even leaving out the suffering and deaths of the innocents, One has to wonder how long it can go on. The major powers in the area, Iran and Saudi Arabia, have vested interests, but without active participation, a civil war could drag go on for years. Active participation on the other hand by either side could trigger a war which may escalate beyond the Middle East, since Israel would certainly be dragged in.  I am well aware that is also one of your own worries

The thought of Israel being dragged unwillingly into such a conflict is terrifying my friend. Losing a battle is not an option for them let alone losing a war. even losing a battle may cause the Israelis to consider the use of tactical nuclear weapons,, and with the purchasing power their enemies  have not to mention the "my brother right or wrong syndrome" who knows where that will end?

REBELS HAVE FIRE A SCUD MISSILE INTO SAUDI ARABIA.
WATER AND FOOD ARE NOW IN SHORT SUPPLIES IN YEMEN.

Badboy wrote:REBELS HAVE FIRE A SCUD MISSILE INTO SAUDI ARABIA.
WATER AND FOOD ARE NOW IN SHORT SUPPLIES IN YEMEN.

Good evening badboy.

If that doesn't put the cat among the pigeons with a vengeance,   I gather this one was shot down by a patriot battery. More worrying is that it was fired at Khamis Mushayt air base (King Khalid0, where they have about 100 fighters stationed including F-16C's and Tornados.

More worrying still is that Saudi Brigadier General Ahmed Asiri said in April that the up to 300 Scuds in the Yemen had been "seriously degraded" while more recently he said they had almost all been destroyed. The question being how long will the Saudis tolerate it before launching a full scale incursion, and thus giving Tehran the excuse it needs. Whether  that will include Revolutionary guard direct involvement or mainly logistical support for the Houthis

It could even include a temporary blockade of the straits of Hormuz. they would quickly be forced to reopen them, but even a week would hurt the world economy, and hurt the Saudis as well since they are by far the biggest supplier of crude oil. it seems the fighting may be spilling over now.