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Judge Dread wrote:Anyone who condones and justifies the doorstepping of Brenda Leyland by Martin Brunt yet decries and deplores the doorstepping of the McCann's by journalist Sonia Poulton is, in my opinion, a hypocrite.
or vice versa. can't have it both ways. or maybe.
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MP's get doorstepped .
Actors singers and footballers get doorstepped.
The difference being...Brenda was doorstepped and frightened to death by Brunt....KM will just be asked for a 'comment'
It's isn't the doorstepping that was wrong about the Brenda Leyland case , it was the blatant way it was done that drove her to take her own life .
The mccanns have sold themselves to the highest bidders , they have made themselves public property like they have made their daughter public property , the difference being, Madeleine didn't and doesn't have a choice in the matter.
Actors singers and footballers get doorstepped.
The difference being...Brenda was doorstepped and frightened to death by Brunt....KM will just be asked for a 'comment'
It's isn't the doorstepping that was wrong about the Brenda Leyland case , it was the blatant way it was done that drove her to take her own life .
The mccanns have sold themselves to the highest bidders , they have made themselves public property like they have made their daughter public property , the difference being, Madeleine didn't and doesn't have a choice in the matter.
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jinvta wrote:Until I get confirmation as to exactly what Sonia Poulton did or didn't do, I will reserve judgment. Right now it all appears to be just rumors and hearsay, but all the speculation certainly makes me want to see her documentary.
I agree that the McCanns are public figures, as opposed to Brenda Leyland who was not, and different rules apply to public figures with regards to privacy.
I suppose the question is not why has Sonia Poulton doorsteped the McCanns, but how have the McCanns avoided doorstepping by journalists for so many years with all of the inconsistencies spewed from their mouths and unanswered questions?
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Well said!! Kate will be 'cough' door stepped with her earings matching her necklace with her PA given speech and her sad look, and her speech about "How awful we are treated" She won't give away anything it will all be contrived just like it was 7 years ago. If it wasn't such a big joke it would be funnykitti wrote:MP's get doorstepped .
Actors singers and footballers get doorstepped.
The difference being...Brenda was doorstepped and frightened to death by Brunt....KM will just be asked for a 'comment'
It's isn't the doorstepping that was wrong about the Brenda Leyland case , it was the blatant way it was done that drove her to take her own life .
The mccanns have sold themselves to the highest bidders , they have made themselves public property like they have made their daughter public property , the difference being, Madeleine didn't and doesn't have a choice in the matter.
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Yes well said kitti and yes fred, one must be prepared before opening the door.
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On twitter: open letter from S.Poulton to Jim Gamble:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbahu
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Sonia Poulton · @SoniaPoulton
28th Jan 2015 from TwitLonger
Open letter to Jim Gamble #mccann
Following your Twitter attack on me yesterday - and continued today - I reiterate my request to invite you for an interview with regard the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
I was shocked by your vitriolic outburst regarding doorstepping the McCanns. Given that you were not there when it occurred I find you speak without full knowledge of the situation. For a former policeman to speak without understanding of what I have or have not done, is worrying given your high media profile around this case.
For the record, I approached the McCanns at their Leicester home. This is a practice you have publicly applauded when it applied to a single, older woman expressing an opinion e.g. Brenda Leyland also from Leicester. And yet, apparently, it is not to your taste when it comes to those who are at the heart of a story of enormous public investment.
Doorstepping, in matters of public interest, is a valid journalistic tool and I stand-by my decision to do it in this case.
This approach followed interview requests to the McCanns and I made it clear that there were unanswered questions - even more than the 48 police questions that Kate refused to answer when it came to searching for her child - and I sought to help by using whatever appropriate tools I have at my disposable. It is the McCanns who use the expression 'No Stone Unturned' and I believe what I set out to do then, and continue to do, assists rather than obstructs that.
When I received no response to an interview, after several requests over the period of a year, I realised that I had a public duty to pursue this. Thus, myself and a small camera crew went to the McCanns house and asked to talk with them.
Kate, I should point out, didn't find my approach at all 'attacking' as you insist on shrieking all over Twitter, until I told her why I was there and what questions the public - the very public who have been funding the search both through private donations and the current Operation Grange investigation - want answering.
I am not dissuaded from this action even by your use of emotive words in an apparent attempt to create a negative narrative about this documentary and what we are setting out to do. I am relieved that the wider discerning public are finally getting a glimpse of the machinations of those claiming to seek justice for Madeleine McCann.
I have previously asked you for an interview for the documentary I am making called 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann'. This is for a number of reasons.
There is your involvement in calling for legal punishment of those you regard as 'trolls' when, in fact, they are mostly just the people who dispute the official version of events surrounding Madeleine's disappearance.
Also, I wish to address the fact that you were involved in the Sky report by Martin Brunt - which featured the doorstepping of Brenda Leyland several days before her death - coupled with your euphoric public congratulations of this action on the day the report was repeatedly aired.
The Sky report, as you know, was based on a so-called dossier of those who oppose the official abduction story. I am given to understand that I feature in that dossier, as did Brenda Leyland. It is no secret that people involved in said dossier were in contact with you prior to Martin Brunt doorstepping Brenda Leyland. People, I have evidence of, who were involved in continually bullying and provoking Brenda Leyland.
Given that experts and commentators have now had a chance to examine Brenda Leyland's social network output regarding the case, and have concluded that she was not a 'troll', I believe - along with many others - that you have questions to answer regarding your role in her public hounding.
I am making this an open letter because I am aware of the deep public interest surrounding the disappearance of Madeleine, not least the millions of pounds that hard-pressed British taxpayers are funding for this, but also because you chose to be public in your condemnation of me and this documentary.
It is also, unquestionably, a unique-ly 'online case' in some regards in that many, many people globally have flocked to the Internet to express their horror at the case receiving such biased reporting in mainstream media.
It is an open secret that the McCann's version of events is widely disputed. Due, in part, to the inability of the couple and their friends to present a consistent account of events. This is out there in the public domain thanks to the work of the Portuguese Police. So it is that people have taken, en masse, to the Internet to express anger, dismay and frustration at the coverage which frequently fails to match reality.
I know you are aware that there are significant rumours surrounding your involvement with the McCanns during the time you were in public office at CEOP. I have seen the tweets that people send to you and the Facebook comments made about you.
I understand what it means to be smeared and I believe that I have a responsibility, as a journalist (of almost three decades), to put those accusations to you. I am not interfering with any on-going police investigation just doing what journalists are supposed to do.
I find it alarming, as do many Twitter observers, that you chose to use social media in a futile attempt to undermine me professionally with childish insults. All the while encouraging your followers to behave in a mob-like fashion towards me. Is this not contrary to what you claim to represent?
However, as many have pointed out, your public attacks have merely served to reinforce what people already believe regarding your somewhat blinkered approach to this case. Certainly, the way you have behaved over the last 24 hours towards myself and others has presented us with the perfect way to illustrate this in the documentary.
As a former policeman, I cannot fathom why you continue to insist that an abduction is the only reasonable conclusion to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
For those who have taken time to truly look at the case - those same people you block on Twitter and refer to as ranters and trolls - and away from the PR-led version of the media coverage, it is clear that there is so much more to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann than we are frequently led to believe.
I wonder, have the facts become immaterial in your quest to defend the McCanns at any cost? I am happy to be proved wrong.
So, Mr. Gamble, what is it to be? I offer you a full recorded interview (and a final mutual agreement of your contribution to the documentary) so you can be assured that your message will not be taken out of context.
I hope, rather than continuing to behave in a deeply unprofessional, evasive and questionable manner, that you take up this invitation.
If you choose not to, then people will make up their own mind why this might be. Your call.
Sonia Poulton
January 28, 2015
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And J.Gamble's "answer":
https://twitter.com/soniapoulton/status/560532882410983424
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skbahu
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Sonia Poulton · @SoniaPoulton
28th Jan 2015 from TwitLonger
Open letter to Jim Gamble #mccann
Following your Twitter attack on me yesterday - and continued today - I reiterate my request to invite you for an interview with regard the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
I was shocked by your vitriolic outburst regarding doorstepping the McCanns. Given that you were not there when it occurred I find you speak without full knowledge of the situation. For a former policeman to speak without understanding of what I have or have not done, is worrying given your high media profile around this case.
For the record, I approached the McCanns at their Leicester home. This is a practice you have publicly applauded when it applied to a single, older woman expressing an opinion e.g. Brenda Leyland also from Leicester. And yet, apparently, it is not to your taste when it comes to those who are at the heart of a story of enormous public investment.
Doorstepping, in matters of public interest, is a valid journalistic tool and I stand-by my decision to do it in this case.
This approach followed interview requests to the McCanns and I made it clear that there were unanswered questions - even more than the 48 police questions that Kate refused to answer when it came to searching for her child - and I sought to help by using whatever appropriate tools I have at my disposable. It is the McCanns who use the expression 'No Stone Unturned' and I believe what I set out to do then, and continue to do, assists rather than obstructs that.
When I received no response to an interview, after several requests over the period of a year, I realised that I had a public duty to pursue this. Thus, myself and a small camera crew went to the McCanns house and asked to talk with them.
Kate, I should point out, didn't find my approach at all 'attacking' as you insist on shrieking all over Twitter, until I told her why I was there and what questions the public - the very public who have been funding the search both through private donations and the current Operation Grange investigation - want answering.
I am not dissuaded from this action even by your use of emotive words in an apparent attempt to create a negative narrative about this documentary and what we are setting out to do. I am relieved that the wider discerning public are finally getting a glimpse of the machinations of those claiming to seek justice for Madeleine McCann.
I have previously asked you for an interview for the documentary I am making called 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann'. This is for a number of reasons.
There is your involvement in calling for legal punishment of those you regard as 'trolls' when, in fact, they are mostly just the people who dispute the official version of events surrounding Madeleine's disappearance.
Also, I wish to address the fact that you were involved in the Sky report by Martin Brunt - which featured the doorstepping of Brenda Leyland several days before her death - coupled with your euphoric public congratulations of this action on the day the report was repeatedly aired.
The Sky report, as you know, was based on a so-called dossier of those who oppose the official abduction story. I am given to understand that I feature in that dossier, as did Brenda Leyland. It is no secret that people involved in said dossier were in contact with you prior to Martin Brunt doorstepping Brenda Leyland. People, I have evidence of, who were involved in continually bullying and provoking Brenda Leyland.
Given that experts and commentators have now had a chance to examine Brenda Leyland's social network output regarding the case, and have concluded that she was not a 'troll', I believe - along with many others - that you have questions to answer regarding your role in her public hounding.
I am making this an open letter because I am aware of the deep public interest surrounding the disappearance of Madeleine, not least the millions of pounds that hard-pressed British taxpayers are funding for this, but also because you chose to be public in your condemnation of me and this documentary.
It is also, unquestionably, a unique-ly 'online case' in some regards in that many, many people globally have flocked to the Internet to express their horror at the case receiving such biased reporting in mainstream media.
It is an open secret that the McCann's version of events is widely disputed. Due, in part, to the inability of the couple and their friends to present a consistent account of events. This is out there in the public domain thanks to the work of the Portuguese Police. So it is that people have taken, en masse, to the Internet to express anger, dismay and frustration at the coverage which frequently fails to match reality.
I know you are aware that there are significant rumours surrounding your involvement with the McCanns during the time you were in public office at CEOP. I have seen the tweets that people send to you and the Facebook comments made about you.
I understand what it means to be smeared and I believe that I have a responsibility, as a journalist (of almost three decades), to put those accusations to you. I am not interfering with any on-going police investigation just doing what journalists are supposed to do.
I find it alarming, as do many Twitter observers, that you chose to use social media in a futile attempt to undermine me professionally with childish insults. All the while encouraging your followers to behave in a mob-like fashion towards me. Is this not contrary to what you claim to represent?
However, as many have pointed out, your public attacks have merely served to reinforce what people already believe regarding your somewhat blinkered approach to this case. Certainly, the way you have behaved over the last 24 hours towards myself and others has presented us with the perfect way to illustrate this in the documentary.
As a former policeman, I cannot fathom why you continue to insist that an abduction is the only reasonable conclusion to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
For those who have taken time to truly look at the case - those same people you block on Twitter and refer to as ranters and trolls - and away from the PR-led version of the media coverage, it is clear that there is so much more to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann than we are frequently led to believe.
I wonder, have the facts become immaterial in your quest to defend the McCanns at any cost? I am happy to be proved wrong.
So, Mr. Gamble, what is it to be? I offer you a full recorded interview (and a final mutual agreement of your contribution to the documentary) so you can be assured that your message will not be taken out of context.
I hope, rather than continuing to behave in a deeply unprofessional, evasive and questionable manner, that you take up this invitation.
If you choose not to, then people will make up their own mind why this might be. Your call.
Sonia Poulton
January 28, 2015
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And J.Gamble's "answer":
https://twitter.com/soniapoulton/status/560532882410983424
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So there we have it.
The mccanns were asked for an interview .
Pratt gamble said they were doorstepped.
KM was not at all perturbed until she realised Sonia didn't believe in the 'abduction' theory
Say no more.
The mccanns were asked for an interview .
Pratt gamble said they were doorstepped.
KM was not at all perturbed until she realised Sonia didn't believe in the 'abduction' theory
Say no more.
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so there you have it. a missing child reduced to a bun fight between two nonentities. perhaps it's no wonder the media haven't got round to reporting on this latest series of events. why dignify it all?
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kitti wrote:So there we have it.
The mccanns were asked for an interview .
Pratt gamble said they were doorstepped.
KM was not at all perturbed until she realised Sonia didn't believe in the 'abduction' theory
Say no more.
Exactly - A journalist requests an interview of a very public person. The British public are funding the enquiry into the disappearance of the public person's daughter who has been missing for close to eight years. The public person became unsettled because the journalist had questions about the alleged abduction.
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interested wrote:kitti wrote:So there we have it.
The mccanns were asked for an interview .
Pratt gamble said they were doorstepped.
KM was not at all perturbed until she realised Sonia didn't believe in the 'abduction' theory
Say no more.
Exactly - A journalist requests an interview of a very public person. The British public are funding the enquiry into the disappearance of the public person's daughter who has been missing for close to eight years. The public person became unsettled because the journalist had questions about the alleged abduction.
'Very public person' is an exaggeration. 'involuntary' or 'limited' would be nearer the point. by her own admission she requested on several,occasions an interview to no avail. by her own admission she 'doorstepped' which she says she is entitled, as a journalist, to do. at this point, it should be clear where i'm headed with this.
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I hardly think 'involuntary' describes the McCanns in any way. They have courted publicity at every opportunity - or at least when it suited them.
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I find it alarming, as do many Twitter observers, that you chose to use social media in a futile attempt to undermine me professionally with childish insults. All the while encouraging your followers to behave in a mob-like fashion towards me. Is this not contrary to what you claim to represent? wrote:
Sonia walks all over Gamble. He tries so hard but just looks the blinkered bully he is.
I'm sure Sonia asked politely when she went to the Mccanns home, it's fine with me - if the Mccanns wanted Brenda door stepped then they can't complain if it's done to them.
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jassi wrote:I hardly think 'involuntary' describes the McCanns in any way. They have courted publicity at every opportunity - or at least when it suited them.
you've missed the point.
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margaret wrote:
Sonia walks all over Gamble. He tries so hard but just looks the blinkered bully he is.
I'm sure Sonia asked politely when she went to the Mccanns home, it's fine with me - if the Mccanns wanted Brenda door stepped then they can't complain if it's done to them.
hmmm, you've changed.
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Marky wrote:jassi wrote:I hardly think 'involuntary' describes the McCanns in any way. They have courted publicity at every opportunity - or at least when it suited them.
you've missed the point.
Oh yes, in what way? Perhaps you need to be less obtuse.
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jassi wrote:Marky wrote:jassi wrote:I hardly think 'involuntary' describes the McCanns in any way. They have courted publicity at every opportunity - or at least when it suited them.
you've missed the point.
Oh yes, in what way? Perhaps you need to be less obtuse.
nope, you need to think.
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and while i'm at it, obtuse is not a word you should use to describe me.
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Marky wrote:and while i'm at it, obtuse is not a word you should use to describe me.
How about isometrical or equalateral ?
Certainly not square !
I am looking forward to the footage of actually how close Sonia got to the mccann doorstep before the big fat bouncer (on minimum wage) stopped her in her tracks !
Wonder if kate come to the door with cuddle cat sticking out her blouse !
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Lioned wrote:Marky wrote:and while i'm at it, obtuse is not a word you should use to describe me.
How about isometrical or equalateral ?
Certainly not square !
I am looking forward to the footage of actually how close Sonia got to the mccann doorstep before the big fat bouncer (on minimum wage) stopped her in her tracks !
Wonder if kate come to the door with cuddle cat sticking out her blouse !
I reckon she's got an Amaral anti-stress doll that she spends hours sticking pins into
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Lioned wrote:Marky wrote:and while i'm at it, obtuse is not a word you should use to describe me.
How about isometrical or equalateral ?
Certainly not square !
I am looking forward to the footage of actually how close Sonia got to the mccann doorstep before the big fat bouncer (on minimum wage) stopped her in her tracks !
Wonder if kate come to the door with cuddle cat sticking out her blouse !
hey, big cat! still being stalked by socks?
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Marky wrote:Lioned wrote:Marky wrote:and while i'm at it, obtuse is not a word you should use to describe me.
How about isometrical or equalateral ?
Certainly not square !
I am looking forward to the footage of actually how close Sonia got to the mccann doorstep before the big fat bouncer (on minimum wage) stopped her in her tracks !
Wonder if kate come to the door with cuddle cat sticking out her blouse !
hey, big cat! still being stalked by socks?
I take it as a compliment that i am so interesting i have a stalker.
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Lioned wrote:Marky wrote:Lioned wrote:Marky wrote:and while i'm at it, obtuse is not a word you should use to describe me.
How about isometrical or equalateral ?
Certainly not square !
I am looking forward to the footage of actually how close Sonia got to the mccann doorstep before the big fat bouncer (on minimum wage) stopped her in her tracks !
Wonder if kate come to the door with cuddle cat sticking out her blouse !
hey, big cat! still being stalked by socks?
I take it as a compliment that i am so interesting i have a stalker.
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it's been suggested that poulton has spoken to katarina gaspar. now for the life of me i cannot see why as there's nothing there she could even contemplate using unless she covets a law suit.
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Whether you believe Madeleine was abducted or not, it is right that questions are asked. This case is dragging on and on without any breakthrough, and why is that? Why, almost 8 years on, millions and millions of pounds spent is it no further forward than it was on 3rd May. I can only come to the conclusion that the SY investigation has been going in the wrong direction. Had the Portuguese authorities been allowed to carry on, I think we would have got the conclusion many years ago.
I do not agree with doorstepping anyone the way Brenda Leyland was, and if Sonia Poulton doorstepped them in the manner that Brunt did then in my opinion, it's wrong. It's not clear exactly what happened when Sonia Poulton approached them, but it sounds like they were happy to talk to her until they reaslised she wasn't there to support them. Now, I'm not saying they should accept bashing because guilty of a crime or not, no one would welcome that, but if they have nothing to hide then why not talk to her? It's becoming more and more apparent that the McCann's will not sit down and discuss with anyone who doesn't sing from their hymn sheet, which makes me question them even more.
I applaud Sonia Poulton for wanting the truth and she is actively seeking answers, nothing wrong with that, but there is a line I feel that shouldn't be crossed. She should not hound people because it will do her and others who genuinely want to know what happened look like idiots.
I do not agree with doorstepping anyone the way Brenda Leyland was, and if Sonia Poulton doorstepped them in the manner that Brunt did then in my opinion, it's wrong. It's not clear exactly what happened when Sonia Poulton approached them, but it sounds like they were happy to talk to her until they reaslised she wasn't there to support them. Now, I'm not saying they should accept bashing because guilty of a crime or not, no one would welcome that, but if they have nothing to hide then why not talk to her? It's becoming more and more apparent that the McCann's will not sit down and discuss with anyone who doesn't sing from their hymn sheet, which makes me question them even more.
I applaud Sonia Poulton for wanting the truth and she is actively seeking answers, nothing wrong with that, but there is a line I feel that shouldn't be crossed. She should not hound people because it will do her and others who genuinely want to know what happened look like idiots.
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Marky wrote:it's been suggested that poulton has spoken to katarina gaspar. now for the life of me i cannot see why as there's nothing there she could even contemplate using unless she covets a law suit.
Nor do I , unless it is for 'background'
To be honest, I cannot see why anyone who is somewhat peripheral to the McCann saga would want to have anything to do with it ever again.
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