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SWINE FLU H1N1 VACCINE AND PREGNANT WOMEN. PLEASE READ THIS ITS VERY IMPORTANT
BEFORE I POST INFORMATION ON THE SWINE FLU VIRUS I WANT TO TELL MY OWN STORY. NOT FOR SYMPATHY BUT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHY I AM POSTING IT.
I found out I was pregnant 10 weeks ago now. Because of the complications I had on my last pregnancy the doctors wanted to make sure all was well with this pregnancy from the start. I got my 1st scan at 6 weeks and everything was fine, could see a heartbeat and we were delighted.
At 6 weeks 6 days I got the swine flu vaccine (PANDEMRIX WAS THE VACCINE I GOT). At 8 weeks 2 days i started to bleed and went into the ER in the maternity hospital and they scanned me. They told me my baby's heart had stopped beating at 7 weeks and I would miscarry the baby over the next week or so.
I went up on the internet more looking for an answer to WHY i lost my baby and came across a lot of information telling me that the swine flu virus is causing miscarriages all over the world.
I will post some of the sites on here as I feel people need to know what is happening so they can make these decisions themselves. I AM NOT TELLING ANYONE THEY SHOULDNT GET THE VACCINE BUT BEFORE YOU DO PLEASE LOOK AT THE FACTS FROM REAL PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD.
I will highlight the parts that show where miscarraiges have happened after receiving the swine flu vaccine
I found out I was pregnant 10 weeks ago now. Because of the complications I had on my last pregnancy the doctors wanted to make sure all was well with this pregnancy from the start. I got my 1st scan at 6 weeks and everything was fine, could see a heartbeat and we were delighted.
At 6 weeks 6 days I got the swine flu vaccine (PANDEMRIX WAS THE VACCINE I GOT). At 8 weeks 2 days i started to bleed and went into the ER in the maternity hospital and they scanned me. They told me my baby's heart had stopped beating at 7 weeks and I would miscarry the baby over the next week or so.
I went up on the internet more looking for an answer to WHY i lost my baby and came across a lot of information telling me that the swine flu virus is causing miscarriages all over the world.
I will post some of the sites on here as I feel people need to know what is happening so they can make these decisions themselves. I AM NOT TELLING ANYONE THEY SHOULDNT GET THE VACCINE BUT BEFORE YOU DO PLEASE LOOK AT THE FACTS FROM REAL PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD.
I will highlight the parts that show where miscarraiges have happened after receiving the swine flu vaccine
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November 28 2009 | 177,399 views
U.S. health authorities have made pregnant women one of the highest priority groups for getting the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, but is it actually safe for pregnant women and their babies?
In fact, the package inserts for the swine flu vaccines actually say that the safety of these vaccines for pregnant women has not been established. And miscarriage reports from pregnant women who have taken the H1N1 swine flu vaccine are starting to pour in from all over the nation.
The link below contains stories that will shock and anger you. If you are a pregnant mother, please do not take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. Instead, do everything that you can do to avoid public places and make sure to wash your hands more than you usually would.
As a pro-safety drug- and vaccine advocate, I believe it’s imperative to be able to unequivocally prove that a drug or vaccine will cause no harm, AND be able to show that it offers measurable benefit, before releasing it to market. This is especially important when we’re dealing with pregnant women and young children.
Neither is true for the flu vaccine during pregnancy, and even less so for the H1N1 vaccine when given to pregnant women.
Flu vaccine manufacturers clearly indicate that safety and effectiveness of their flu vaccines have not been established for pregnant women and nursing mothers. Ditto for their H1N1 vaccines.
Heartbreaking Stories of Losses After H1N1 Vaccination
The source links above contain personal stories of heartbreak – women who lost their babies just hours or days after getting the H1N1 vaccine this year. Naturally, the standard comeback is that miscarriages are commonplace, and surely have nothing to do with the vaccine. However, to simply dismiss these events as “coincidences” is a serious mistake.
Perhaps some of the 20 women on one of the blogs would have miscarried anyway, but when a number of women have healthy, uneventful pregnancies up until they’re injected with a vaccine, and then suddenly miscarry, it most certainly warrants investigation!
Be Part of the Solution – REPORT All Side Effects to VAERS!
I’m willing to bet that most of these incidents have not been properly reported to the authorities, and this is something everyone needs to be better informed about.
Please know that any time you take a pharmaceutical drug, or are injected with a vaccine of any kind, you need to report any and all side effects to your doctor and insist that he or she report it to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Ask to get a copy of the report to make sure it was done.
Also know that YOU can report it yourself! You don’t have to go via your doctor.
The VAERS web site allows you to fill out an adverse event report on your own.
Unfortunately, since reporting side effects to VAERS is voluntary, only one to 10 percent of all side effects are ever reported!
Yet VAERS can serve a vital function, alerting authorities to significant problems with various drugs and vaccines. We NEED this information, because without it, authorities and drug makers can simply continue to say that a drug or vaccine has been used safely for a number of years, without ever having done any real studies and follow up.
The truth is, we know extremely little about the true safety and effectiveness of most drugs and vaccines on the market.
None of the H1N1 Flu Vaccines Have Ever Been Tested on Pregnant Women
If you are willing to be a guinea pig, then so be it. But I urge you not to be. It’s simply not your responsibility to subject yourself to this type of cruel field testing. Know this: the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering the shots are legally protected, should something go wrong. You cannot sue them for damages.
If you read the package inserts, you’ll find that NONE of them have ever been tested for safety and effectiveness in pregnant women and nursing mothers, and none of them are recommended for pregnant women “unless clearly needed.”
(And this is something I’ll get to in a moment…)
You also need to understand that no reproduction studies have been done to determine how these flu vaccines (whether for seasonal- or the H1N1 vaccine) affect future fertility, and whether or how they affect a developing fetus.
So truly, YOU are little more than a test subject; a statistic that may or may not be counted, depending on whether your side effects are properly reported and investigated, should something go awry.
In the US, four H1N1 vaccines have achieved FDA approval, and you can read their package inserts by clicking on the hyperlinks below:
•MedImmune (intranasal spray)
•Novartis
•Sanofi-Pasteur
•CSL Biotherapies, Inc.
For more information about these vaccines, and a quick review of each vaccine’s list of ingredients, please see my previous article A Review of Four Approved Swine Flu Vaccines’ Ingredients.
How Effective is the H1N1 Vaccine, Really?
If you read through the package inserts (hyperlinked above) for the injectable, inactivated flu vaccines, you will find the following paragraph:
"Specific levels of HI antibody titers post-vaccination with inactivated influenza virus vaccine have not been correlated with protection from influenza virus. In some human studies, antibody titers of 1:40 or greater have been associated with protection from influenza illness in up to 50% of subjects."
What that paragraph explains, is that, to the best of our knowledge, the vaccine only works in half, or less, of those individuals who attain the specified level of seroconversion after vaccination.
The FDA defines seroconversion as achieving an antibody titer of 1:40.
This means that if a vaccine was 100 percent effective at achieving this level of seroconversion, it would protect up to 50 percent of the recipients of the vaccine.
But none of the vaccines are 100 percent effective at achieving seroconversion.
CSL's vaccine insert, for example, (see pages 11-12), states that their H1N1 vaccine provides seroconversion for:
•48.7 percent of people aged 18-65
•34 percent for seniors, 65 and older
That means that, at best, their vaccine works in one out of every four people! (49 percent of 50 percent).
Which, of course, means that the vaccine does NOT work in three out of every four people…
Is a 25 percent chance of reaping any sort of benefit worth the risk, especially if you’re pregnant?
Many health officials and doctors say this benefit is worth the risk, and urge pregnant women to get vaccinated with one or both flu vaccines this year. They claim the potential dangers inherent in getting sick with the flu while pregnant is a far more significant than any potential danger from the vaccine.
But is that really true?
How Dangerous is the Flu While Pregnant, and is Flu Vaccination Warranted?
A paper published in the summer 2006 issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, titled Influenza Vaccination During Pregnancy: A Critical Assessment of the Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), concludes that the flu vaccine recommendation for pregnant women should be withdrawn as:
a) flu is rarely a complication for pregnant women, and
b) no safety studies have been done
The authors’ state:
“Influenza vaccination during all trimesters of pregnancy is now universally recommended in the United States. We critically reviewed the influenza vaccination policy of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice and the citations that were used to support their recommendations.
The ACIP’s citations and the current literature indicate that influenza infection is rarely a threat to a normal pregnancy.
There is no convincing evidence of the effectiveness of influenza vaccination during this critical period.
… The ACIP policy recommendation of routinely administering influenza vaccine during pregnancy is ill-advised and unsupported by current scientific literature, and it should be withdrawn…”
Interestingly, it explains that the ACIP’s recommendations are based on just TWO scientific papers that support the claim that the flu is more serious during pregnancy than at other times, and points out the multiple flaws with each of these two studies.
Here’s an excerpt explaining the lack of true evidence presented by the first study:
“A British study compared maternal and neonatal outcomes in women infected with the influenza virus during the second and third trimesters of pregnancy with those of pregnant, uninfected controls. Only 11% of the 1,659 pregnant subjects had serological evidence of the illness; none had detectable influenza A-specific IgM.
There was also no evidence for transplacental transmission of the influenza virus, or autoantibody production in influenza-complicated pregnancies. Influenza infection had no significant impact on labor outcomes, health of the newborn, or maternal well-being.
The authors claimed that overall “complications” in pregnant women with influenza infection occurred more frequently than in controls; however, no individual complication achieved statistical significance.
Many of the listed complications appeared to be subjective complaints such as chest pain and “taking medication,” rather than specific diagnoses, and some could have been related to comorbid conditions that the authors failed to address.
While there was only one recorded case of pneumonia during pregnancy, an uncommon but serious complication of influenza, all other “complications” lacked biological plausibility.
When such nonspecific complications were excluded, there were no significant differences between the two groups…”
Another interesting fact brought to light in this paper is that, ironically, some of the “evidence” used to create the recommendation for flu vaccination for pregnant women shows that it may cause more harm than good!
“Munoz et al. also failed to demonstrate effectiveness of influenza vaccination in pregnancy during five influenza seasons (1998-2003). Rates of upper respiratory tract infection did not significantly differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated women.
Paradoxically, the authors found four times as many influenza-like illness-related hospitalizations in vaccinated women (2.8% vs 0.7%), an observation similar to that of Neuzil et al (2.2% vs 0.7%) [the second study used to support the ACIP recommendation].
These observations not only challenge vaccine effectiveness, but also raise concern that vaccination actually carries added risk of influenza-like illness.” [Emphasis mine.]
Lastly, the paper questions the rationale for using a polio vaccine study – which was rejected by the Institute of Medicine on the basis of flawed study design – in support of their decision that flu vaccinations are safe for pregnant women.
The authors called the decision “peculiar.”
Indeed…
Final Thoughts
Hopefully, this information will help you weigh the risks and benefits to make a more educated decision for yourself and your family. No one can, nor should, make this decision for you.
I urge you to continue educating yourself about vaccines before yet another generation is lost to medical arrogance and greed.
November 28 2009 | 177,399 views
U.S. health authorities have made pregnant women one of the highest priority groups for getting the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, but is it actually safe for pregnant women and their babies?
In fact, the package inserts for the swine flu vaccines actually say that the safety of these vaccines for pregnant women has not been established. And miscarriage reports from pregnant women who have taken the H1N1 swine flu vaccine are starting to pour in from all over the nation.
The link below contains stories that will shock and anger you. If you are a pregnant mother, please do not take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. Instead, do everything that you can do to avoid public places and make sure to wash your hands more than you usually would.
As a pro-safety drug- and vaccine advocate, I believe it’s imperative to be able to unequivocally prove that a drug or vaccine will cause no harm, AND be able to show that it offers measurable benefit, before releasing it to market. This is especially important when we’re dealing with pregnant women and young children.
Neither is true for the flu vaccine during pregnancy, and even less so for the H1N1 vaccine when given to pregnant women.
Flu vaccine manufacturers clearly indicate that safety and effectiveness of their flu vaccines have not been established for pregnant women and nursing mothers. Ditto for their H1N1 vaccines.
Heartbreaking Stories of Losses After H1N1 Vaccination
The source links above contain personal stories of heartbreak – women who lost their babies just hours or days after getting the H1N1 vaccine this year. Naturally, the standard comeback is that miscarriages are commonplace, and surely have nothing to do with the vaccine. However, to simply dismiss these events as “coincidences” is a serious mistake.
Perhaps some of the 20 women on one of the blogs would have miscarried anyway, but when a number of women have healthy, uneventful pregnancies up until they’re injected with a vaccine, and then suddenly miscarry, it most certainly warrants investigation!
Be Part of the Solution – REPORT All Side Effects to VAERS!
I’m willing to bet that most of these incidents have not been properly reported to the authorities, and this is something everyone needs to be better informed about.
Please know that any time you take a pharmaceutical drug, or are injected with a vaccine of any kind, you need to report any and all side effects to your doctor and insist that he or she report it to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Ask to get a copy of the report to make sure it was done.
Also know that YOU can report it yourself! You don’t have to go via your doctor.
The VAERS web site allows you to fill out an adverse event report on your own.
Unfortunately, since reporting side effects to VAERS is voluntary, only one to 10 percent of all side effects are ever reported!
Yet VAERS can serve a vital function, alerting authorities to significant problems with various drugs and vaccines. We NEED this information, because without it, authorities and drug makers can simply continue to say that a drug or vaccine has been used safely for a number of years, without ever having done any real studies and follow up.
The truth is, we know extremely little about the true safety and effectiveness of most drugs and vaccines on the market.
None of the H1N1 Flu Vaccines Have Ever Been Tested on Pregnant Women
If you are willing to be a guinea pig, then so be it. But I urge you not to be. It’s simply not your responsibility to subject yourself to this type of cruel field testing. Know this: the vaccine manufacturers and the doctors administering the shots are legally protected, should something go wrong. You cannot sue them for damages.
If you read the package inserts, you’ll find that NONE of them have ever been tested for safety and effectiveness in pregnant women and nursing mothers, and none of them are recommended for pregnant women “unless clearly needed.”
(And this is something I’ll get to in a moment…)
You also need to understand that no reproduction studies have been done to determine how these flu vaccines (whether for seasonal- or the H1N1 vaccine) affect future fertility, and whether or how they affect a developing fetus.
So truly, YOU are little more than a test subject; a statistic that may or may not be counted, depending on whether your side effects are properly reported and investigated, should something go awry.
In the US, four H1N1 vaccines have achieved FDA approval, and you can read their package inserts by clicking on the hyperlinks below:
•MedImmune (intranasal spray)
•Novartis
•Sanofi-Pasteur
•CSL Biotherapies, Inc.
For more information about these vaccines, and a quick review of each vaccine’s list of ingredients, please see my previous article A Review of Four Approved Swine Flu Vaccines’ Ingredients.
How Effective is the H1N1 Vaccine, Really?
If you read through the package inserts (hyperlinked above) for the injectable, inactivated flu vaccines, you will find the following paragraph:
"Specific levels of HI antibody titers post-vaccination with inactivated influenza virus vaccine have not been correlated with protection from influenza virus. In some human studies, antibody titers of 1:40 or greater have been associated with protection from influenza illness in up to 50% of subjects."
What that paragraph explains, is that, to the best of our knowledge, the vaccine only works in half, or less, of those individuals who attain the specified level of seroconversion after vaccination.
The FDA defines seroconversion as achieving an antibody titer of 1:40.
This means that if a vaccine was 100 percent effective at achieving this level of seroconversion, it would protect up to 50 percent of the recipients of the vaccine.
But none of the vaccines are 100 percent effective at achieving seroconversion.
CSL's vaccine insert, for example, (see pages 11-12), states that their H1N1 vaccine provides seroconversion for:
•48.7 percent of people aged 18-65
•34 percent for seniors, 65 and older
That means that, at best, their vaccine works in one out of every four people! (49 percent of 50 percent).
Which, of course, means that the vaccine does NOT work in three out of every four people…
Is a 25 percent chance of reaping any sort of benefit worth the risk, especially if you’re pregnant?
Many health officials and doctors say this benefit is worth the risk, and urge pregnant women to get vaccinated with one or both flu vaccines this year. They claim the potential dangers inherent in getting sick with the flu while pregnant is a far more significant than any potential danger from the vaccine.
But is that really true?
How Dangerous is the Flu While Pregnant, and is Flu Vaccination Warranted?
A paper published in the summer 2006 issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, titled Influenza Vaccination During Pregnancy: A Critical Assessment of the Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), concludes that the flu vaccine recommendation for pregnant women should be withdrawn as:
a) flu is rarely a complication for pregnant women, and
b) no safety studies have been done
The authors’ state:
“Influenza vaccination during all trimesters of pregnancy is now universally recommended in the United States. We critically reviewed the influenza vaccination policy of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice and the citations that were used to support their recommendations.
The ACIP’s citations and the current literature indicate that influenza infection is rarely a threat to a normal pregnancy.
There is no convincing evidence of the effectiveness of influenza vaccination during this critical period.
… The ACIP policy recommendation of routinely administering influenza vaccine during pregnancy is ill-advised and unsupported by current scientific literature, and it should be withdrawn…”
Interestingly, it explains that the ACIP’s recommendations are based on just TWO scientific papers that support the claim that the flu is more serious during pregnancy than at other times, and points out the multiple flaws with each of these two studies.
Here’s an excerpt explaining the lack of true evidence presented by the first study:
“A British study compared maternal and neonatal outcomes in women infected with the influenza virus during the second and third trimesters of pregnancy with those of pregnant, uninfected controls. Only 11% of the 1,659 pregnant subjects had serological evidence of the illness; none had detectable influenza A-specific IgM.
There was also no evidence for transplacental transmission of the influenza virus, or autoantibody production in influenza-complicated pregnancies. Influenza infection had no significant impact on labor outcomes, health of the newborn, or maternal well-being.
The authors claimed that overall “complications” in pregnant women with influenza infection occurred more frequently than in controls; however, no individual complication achieved statistical significance.
Many of the listed complications appeared to be subjective complaints such as chest pain and “taking medication,” rather than specific diagnoses, and some could have been related to comorbid conditions that the authors failed to address.
While there was only one recorded case of pneumonia during pregnancy, an uncommon but serious complication of influenza, all other “complications” lacked biological plausibility.
When such nonspecific complications were excluded, there were no significant differences between the two groups…”
Another interesting fact brought to light in this paper is that, ironically, some of the “evidence” used to create the recommendation for flu vaccination for pregnant women shows that it may cause more harm than good!
“Munoz et al. also failed to demonstrate effectiveness of influenza vaccination in pregnancy during five influenza seasons (1998-2003). Rates of upper respiratory tract infection did not significantly differ between vaccinated and unvaccinated women.
Paradoxically, the authors found four times as many influenza-like illness-related hospitalizations in vaccinated women (2.8% vs 0.7%), an observation similar to that of Neuzil et al (2.2% vs 0.7%) [the second study used to support the ACIP recommendation].
These observations not only challenge vaccine effectiveness, but also raise concern that vaccination actually carries added risk of influenza-like illness.” [Emphasis mine.]
Lastly, the paper questions the rationale for using a polio vaccine study – which was rejected by the Institute of Medicine on the basis of flawed study design – in support of their decision that flu vaccinations are safe for pregnant women.
The authors called the decision “peculiar.”
Indeed…
Final Thoughts
Hopefully, this information will help you weigh the risks and benefits to make a more educated decision for yourself and your family. No one can, nor should, make this decision for you.
I urge you to continue educating yourself about vaccines before yet another generation is lost to medical arrogance and greed.
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Shocking H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Miscarriage Stories From Pregnant Women
Tell Your Doctors That Vaccines And Pregnancy Do Not Mix
U.S. health authorities have made pregnant women one of the highest priority groups for getting the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, but is it actually safe for pregnant women and their babies? Well, the truth is that miscarriage reports from pregnant women who have taken the H1N1 swine flu vaccine are starting to pour in from all over the nation. Vaccines and pregnancy simply do not mix safely. In fact, the package inserts for the swine flu vaccines actually say that the safety of these vaccines for pregnant women has not been established.
What you are about to read below should shock and anger you. If they are telling us that the swine flu vaccine is not safe for children under 6 months of age, then why in the world would it be safe for pregnant women and their babies? That doesn’t make an ounce of sense, does it?
The following H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories are from a June 2010 birth club…..
EBWashington:
I am so upset. I was so excited to be pregnant after trying for a year. As soon as I found out I was pregnant, I joined this birth club and I was due June 25th. We have two healthy boys with no history of miscarriage. Everything was going great. Last Monday, I got the H1N1 vaccine thimerosal reduced (mercury reduced for pregnant women). On Tuesday morning, I started cramping and on Wednesday I started bleeding heavily. My hcg was 50 on Wednesday and I was almost 6 weeks along so it was low. They still thought that I might be pregnant but on Friday my hcg was down to 22. I am an emotional wreck. I feel like I had a healthy baby and I caused this by getting the H1N1 vaccine. My doctors pushed it. I researched online and there have been many miscarriages after the H1N1 vaccine but they haven’t been reported since it is hard to say what caused the miscarriages. I hope that I did not cause this. I wish everyone the best.
Tayla08
I don’t have an answer for you, but a friend of a friend just had a miscarriage 2-3 days after getting the shot. She was 7weeks. She had no previous history of m/c… No one can answer if they’re related…it hasn’t been out long enough and there haven’t been any studies done on pregnant women. I will tell you, that it has made up my mind on getting it…I won’t and I’m not going to get it for my DD either. My daughter and I both had H1N1 last week, and although it truly sucks…I think I’ll take my chances. One doctor will tell you to get it and the next will tell you not too…you have to do what’s in your heart.
90707
my heart goes out to you as i recently miscarried as well and was due in june. i had a healthy heart beat at 6wks. then at 7.5 wks my son got the h1n1 mist vaccine which has live vaccine in it. the nurse said to be careful b/c it could technically spread if he rubbed his nose and touched a surface etc. the next night i miscarried and 5 days later was diagnosed with h1n1. i work from home, kids are home, hadnt been anywhere during that time. so the chances that it is all related are very high. the flu mist vaccine warns for immunocompromised patients (which includes prego) to stay away from recipients of the flu mist for 21 days.
This next set of H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories is from an About.com page about miscarriage…..
Jo:
I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the H1N1.Regrets:
I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!
:
i work in a hospital like setting and was told "the benefits outweigh the risks" 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide
sue:
I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a miscarriage.
Linda Hill:
My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried.
SoSorry:
I was so ready to get the H1N1 vaccine last week and they were only giving them to pregnant women. I was 6 weeks along and got it and the next day I started cramping and miscarried. I already had two healthy pregnancies and never miscarried or had any problems. My doctors think I am crazy to think it was the H1N1 but if no one looks into this than other women will not know. I am so sorry that I got it.
Connie:
I also received the H1N1 vaccination on October 22nd, 2009 and went into labor on October 25th, at 16 weeks pregnant and we just heard the heartbeat and everything was fine with my pregnancy on October 16th, 2009, then on October 28th my water broke then on October 29th, I delivered a stillborn baby boy, and no one can tell me why...Everyone wants to say it did not come from the shot but I believe it did. My baby was growing at the correct pace and everyone wants to brush off the vaccination. I say if you have the vaccination and suffer a miscarriage if they are able to perform an autopsy have it done.
I also agree something needs to be done and looked more into with this vaccination because most women are being advised it's just something that happens, but I also had two healthy children normal pregnancies and when I received this vaccination with my third pregnancy, my baby is gone.
sioux falls, south dakota:
I received the H1N1 vaccine on October 16th and started experiencing cramping on the 22nd. I was nearly 17 weeks pregnant and gave birth to a stillborn baby boy on the 23rd. Like many of the other women here, the first thing I suspected was the H1N1 vaccine. I immediately asked a nurse at the hospital if that would have anything to do with it. Without hesitation, she told me "absolutely not." I had reservations about getting the vaccine, but followed the advice of my long trusted family doctor. In a follow up appointment with my doctor 3 days after I lost my baby, I asked him if the vaccine would have had any adverse effects on my baby. He also said that it was not possible. I don't believe that my doctor was necessarily lying to me, he was simply following the accepted practices and opinions of his field. I do, however, believe that as a nation, we are being lied to. This vaccine is NOT safe during pregnancy. There has not been enough testing done to determine this and there are far too many "coincidences" for this to be anything but a result of a vaccine that was hastily pushed into production and distribution in an effort to stop widespread panic. I have read so many stories in defense of the vaccine that will talk about how common miscarriages are, but I would challenge you to ask ANY health care professional how common second trimester miscarriages are. My baby was doing perfect developmentally and I had felt him move earlier that day. My heart goes out to all of you out there who have had to go through the same heartache and loss that I have had in the last couple of weeks. There is no reason that any woman or family should have to go through this. Get the word out to all of the pregnant women that you know. I know that if I had heard that women had been losing their babies shortly after they received the vaccine, I would have followed my gut and not gotten it myself. Maybe then Wyatt would have had a chance at life.
Marina Rossi:
I recently got the H1N1 vaccine and miscarried 3 days later. I thought it could have been the vaccine but didnt ask. After finding this site I believe it was the vaccine. Sorry to everyone else out there who has just experienced a miscarriage.
kathy-sd:
I'm from a town of 2000 in SD, there are several women pregnant and we are all due within a few weeks of each other. Four of us got the H1N1 vaccine 2 weeks ago and one by one each of us started to have preterm contractions. We are all due in Nov and Dec so we are further along than most of the people that lost their babies. There is no way you can tell us that our preterm labor was not caused by the H1N1 vaccine. It may look like a "fluke" to some people when these women are scattered all over the country but we are talking about 4 of us in our small community. My heart goes out to all of you that lost your babies.
ashley:
Im not sure but not only myself, i know someone that withing 4 days of getting the shot we both miscarried, i was only 6 weeks and she was 4 months along, not sure if the shot caused it and cant find any other information but i am a little concerned about this coincidence.
Time Machine:
I got a flu shot in pregnancy, developed incredibly strange symptoms immediately (numb hands, feet and mouth, heart palpitations, sudden weakness in my legs, a bright red face), began bleeding and miscarried by 11 weeks. I had no idea there was mercury in most flu shots but once I found out after the fact, I was assured that I'd had the "mercury free" form. As it turned out, the shot wasn't completely mercury free and, according to the EPA website, it still had 5,000 times the limit for mercury in drinking water-- not to mention a list of other toxins (MSG, formaldehyde, etc.).
I'd had no idea the shots were so dirty. I guess I'd been under the impression they were something like sterile water and a dead virus, that's it.
The strange symptoms-- which I'd been told were "just pregnancy" lasted six months. No one could figure out what was wrong with me, why I couldn't make stairs, why I felt like I'd been shot with novocaine. I learned later from a book by Jane Hightower that these were all symptoms of mercury exposure. I guess I'm one of those susceptible people. No one in my family is getting the H1N1-- no one even gets regular flu shots anymore, we all read labels.
If you are a pregnant mother, please do not take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. Instead, do everything that you can do to avoid public places and make sure to wash your hands more than you usually would. Take extra large doses of immunity building vitamins and research many of the great natural ways for fighting the flu that are out there on the Internet.
The truth is that if you do take the vaccine and then something happens, you will NOT be able to sue anyone (thanks to Congress). You will have to bear all the responsibility yourself. That doctor who kept pushing and pushing it on you will tell you that it could not have been the vaccine and that you probably would have miscarried anyway.
Do you honestly want to inject a vaccine that may contain mercury, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (associated with infertility), triton X100 (a strong detergent), phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) and a whole bunch of other toxic ingredients into your system when you know that your baby will absorb it too and has no defenses against most of these things?
In the very short video posted below, you will see one health expert explain to Sean Hannity that not even the swine flu vaccine package insert says that it is safe for pregnant women...
The reality is that if you are pregnant, you need to hear what both sides have to say before ever subjecting your baby to the swine flu vaccine. You do NOT want to end up like one of the mothers above. Please help us out by sharing this information with as many people as you can. If you know of any additional H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories please post them below in the comments section.
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Anonymous Posted: Nov 18 2009, 8:00 AM
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207255 Its not the vaccine, its the Squalene adjuvant they put in it. Getting injected with Squalene creates anti-squalene antibodies and a fetus needs Squalene, which converts into Cholesterol which provides nutrients for brain development. Without squalene, no cholesterol, thus starving the fetus of these nutrients for brain development. Source: Embryonic Lethality and Defective Neural Tube Closure in Mice Lacking Squalene Synthase
For God's sakes, the manufactures should at least test this for safety issues in pregnant women. The dots aren't that hard to connect.
Nicole E. Posted: Nov 18 2009, 11:22 AM
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75179 I was told that your body takes two weeks to produce antibodies after getting any vaccine. I miscarried within two weeks of getting the H1N1 vaccine. I do not directly blame this vaccine, but the coincidences some women have are shocking. I had two healthy pregnancies before with no history of miscarriages. I was 7 weeks pregnant. There is just no way to ever know for sure why it happened, but what I do know is that I trust my "mothering instinct" very much and I told my doctor that I did not feel that this vaccine was safe for me. I was strongly persuaded otherwise. So I got the vaccination. Now I will probably continue to wonder..........what if.........
Anonymous Posted: Nov 19 2009, 7:47 PM
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72185 I'm heart broken right now. My daughter was 2 months pregnant with her second baby. She received the swine flu vaccine a week ago and had a miscarriage today.
Stacey Posted: Nov 22 2009, 11:30 PM
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76253 the virus itself may or may not have harmed the fetus. There are significant amounts of mercury, formaldehyde, and aluminum in vaccines which are very toxic!! Why the government keeps insisting vaccines containing these chemicals are safe if beyond me! Unfortunately the drug companies do not care!! I have an autistic son who I believe was harmed by the MMR and Hepatitis B shots! I just sit and get angry and cry when I hear the CDC recommending the vaccines for pregnant women, infants, and children!! Warn pregnant women not to get vaccines and to not let their newborns get the Hepatitis vaccine right after birth! Do the research (FDA website) and see the list of mercury containing vaccines! Beware if they do not contain mercury, they may contain formaldehyde or aluminum! The drug companies are getting rich on scaring people into getting vaccines so they can get rich! Three top drug companies just announced that they made millions of dollars on the swine flu shot!! Beware of any future vaccines too!!! They are in this for profit, not to protect us! My prayers go out to all the women on here!! God Bless all of you and I am sorry for your loss!!
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142221 I go the h1n1 shot and 6 .5weeks pregnant. I went for an ultrasound two weeks later when I was supposed to be 8.5 weeks and the ultrasound detected to hearbeat and said my baby was the size of a 6.5 week fetus. Essentially my baby stopped growing at the time I got the shot.
Four days later I lost my baby. I am devatated and it makes me sick to my stomach to think that I got a vaccine that caused this. I will never know for sure but I will never forget either. I grieve for my lost baby every day. Betsy Posted: Nov 30 2009, 8:44 PM
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6919 Unfortunately the H1N1 vaccine has some risks; latest reports show 28 US pregnant women have died and there have been miscarriages. I have written an article on how difficult it is to get pregnant after a miscarriage.
71171 Hi i got this vaccination about 4 days after conception. About a week later i started bleeding and thought i was going to start my period but come to find out i was pregnant. I from the time i started bleeding and on had nothing but problems. At 5 weeks bleeding and cramping, at 7 weeks 5 days more bleeding so the did an ultrasound and there was heart beat of 104, but the baby was small so they said i was only 6 weeks 2 days. Still cramping at 8 weeks another ultrasound done and my fluid was low, and the heart rate was still good at 158. At week 9 continual bleeding and finally a miscarriage. They never could tell were the bleeding was from in any of the scans. I know 5 people who were pregnant two got the vaccination after 20 weeks and are doing fine the other three we all conceieved in october 2009 and November and well all miscarried.
Anonymous Posted: Jan 19 2010, 10:32 AM
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67212 I miscarried a completely uneventful pregnancy within 2 weeks of getting the H1n1 shot. I was 10 weeks when I miscarried. I am devastated. If I should get pregnant again I will never again have any substance such as a vaccine put into my body willingly.
Anonymous Posted: Jan 19 2010, 10:34 AM
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67212 As someone else pointed out, they say the vaccine is not safe for children under 2 - so wouldn't a fetus count??? How come they are then telling pregnant women to get vaccinated!
Anonymous Posted: Jan 21 2010, 3:35 PM
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166205 I was forced to get vaccinated being in the military and now I am terrified. I haven't felt the baby moving as much today but I am 28 weeks along. I just worry my baby is going to come out with some neurological disorder due to mercury though I was told it was mercury
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Shocking H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Miscarriage Stories From Pregnant Women
Tell Your Doctors That Vaccines And Pregnancy Do Not Mix
U.S. health authorities have made pregnant women one of the highest priority groups for getting the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, but is it actually safe for pregnant women and their babies? Well, the truth is that miscarriage reports from pregnant women who have taken the H1N1 swine flu vaccine are starting to pour in from all over the nation. Vaccines and pregnancy simply do not mix safely. In fact, the package inserts for the swine flu vaccines actually say that the safety of these vaccines for pregnant women has not been established.
What you are about to read below should shock and anger you. If they are telling us that the swine flu vaccine is not safe for children under 6 months of age, then why in the world would it be safe for pregnant women and their babies? That doesn’t make an ounce of sense, does it?
The following H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories are from a June 2010 birth club…..
EBWashington:
I am so upset. I was so excited to be pregnant after trying for a year. As soon as I found out I was pregnant, I joined this birth club and I was due June 25th. We have two healthy boys with no history of miscarriage. Everything was going great. Last Monday, I got the H1N1 vaccine thimerosal reduced (mercury reduced for pregnant women). On Tuesday morning, I started cramping and on Wednesday I started bleeding heavily. My hcg was 50 on Wednesday and I was almost 6 weeks along so it was low. They still thought that I might be pregnant but on Friday my hcg was down to 22. I am an emotional wreck. I feel like I had a healthy baby and I caused this by getting the H1N1 vaccine. My doctors pushed it. I researched online and there have been many miscarriages after the H1N1 vaccine but they haven’t been reported since it is hard to say what caused the miscarriages. I hope that I did not cause this. I wish everyone the best.
Tayla08
I don’t have an answer for you, but a friend of a friend just had a miscarriage 2-3 days after getting the shot. She was 7weeks. She had no previous history of m/c… No one can answer if they’re related…it hasn’t been out long enough and there haven’t been any studies done on pregnant women. I will tell you, that it has made up my mind on getting it…I won’t and I’m not going to get it for my DD either. My daughter and I both had H1N1 last week, and although it truly sucks…I think I’ll take my chances. One doctor will tell you to get it and the next will tell you not too…you have to do what’s in your heart.
90707
my heart goes out to you as i recently miscarried as well and was due in june. i had a healthy heart beat at 6wks. then at 7.5 wks my son got the h1n1 mist vaccine which has live vaccine in it. the nurse said to be careful b/c it could technically spread if he rubbed his nose and touched a surface etc. the next night i miscarried and 5 days later was diagnosed with h1n1. i work from home, kids are home, hadnt been anywhere during that time. so the chances that it is all related are very high. the flu mist vaccine warns for immunocompromised patients (which includes prego) to stay away from recipients of the flu mist for 21 days.
This next set of H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories is from an About.com page about miscarriage…..
Jo:
I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the H1N1.Regrets:
I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!
:
i work in a hospital like setting and was told "the benefits outweigh the risks" 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide
sue:
I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a miscarriage.
Linda Hill:
My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried.
SoSorry:
I was so ready to get the H1N1 vaccine last week and they were only giving them to pregnant women. I was 6 weeks along and got it and the next day I started cramping and miscarried. I already had two healthy pregnancies and never miscarried or had any problems. My doctors think I am crazy to think it was the H1N1 but if no one looks into this than other women will not know. I am so sorry that I got it.
Connie:
I also received the H1N1 vaccination on October 22nd, 2009 and went into labor on October 25th, at 16 weeks pregnant and we just heard the heartbeat and everything was fine with my pregnancy on October 16th, 2009, then on October 28th my water broke then on October 29th, I delivered a stillborn baby boy, and no one can tell me why...Everyone wants to say it did not come from the shot but I believe it did. My baby was growing at the correct pace and everyone wants to brush off the vaccination. I say if you have the vaccination and suffer a miscarriage if they are able to perform an autopsy have it done.
I also agree something needs to be done and looked more into with this vaccination because most women are being advised it's just something that happens, but I also had two healthy children normal pregnancies and when I received this vaccination with my third pregnancy, my baby is gone.
sioux falls, south dakota:
I received the H1N1 vaccine on October 16th and started experiencing cramping on the 22nd. I was nearly 17 weeks pregnant and gave birth to a stillborn baby boy on the 23rd. Like many of the other women here, the first thing I suspected was the H1N1 vaccine. I immediately asked a nurse at the hospital if that would have anything to do with it. Without hesitation, she told me "absolutely not." I had reservations about getting the vaccine, but followed the advice of my long trusted family doctor. In a follow up appointment with my doctor 3 days after I lost my baby, I asked him if the vaccine would have had any adverse effects on my baby. He also said that it was not possible. I don't believe that my doctor was necessarily lying to me, he was simply following the accepted practices and opinions of his field. I do, however, believe that as a nation, we are being lied to. This vaccine is NOT safe during pregnancy. There has not been enough testing done to determine this and there are far too many "coincidences" for this to be anything but a result of a vaccine that was hastily pushed into production and distribution in an effort to stop widespread panic. I have read so many stories in defense of the vaccine that will talk about how common miscarriages are, but I would challenge you to ask ANY health care professional how common second trimester miscarriages are. My baby was doing perfect developmentally and I had felt him move earlier that day. My heart goes out to all of you out there who have had to go through the same heartache and loss that I have had in the last couple of weeks. There is no reason that any woman or family should have to go through this. Get the word out to all of the pregnant women that you know. I know that if I had heard that women had been losing their babies shortly after they received the vaccine, I would have followed my gut and not gotten it myself. Maybe then Wyatt would have had a chance at life.
Marina Rossi:
I recently got the H1N1 vaccine and miscarried 3 days later. I thought it could have been the vaccine but didnt ask. After finding this site I believe it was the vaccine. Sorry to everyone else out there who has just experienced a miscarriage.
kathy-sd:
I'm from a town of 2000 in SD, there are several women pregnant and we are all due within a few weeks of each other. Four of us got the H1N1 vaccine 2 weeks ago and one by one each of us started to have preterm contractions. We are all due in Nov and Dec so we are further along than most of the people that lost their babies. There is no way you can tell us that our preterm labor was not caused by the H1N1 vaccine. It may look like a "fluke" to some people when these women are scattered all over the country but we are talking about 4 of us in our small community. My heart goes out to all of you that lost your babies.
ashley:
Im not sure but not only myself, i know someone that withing 4 days of getting the shot we both miscarried, i was only 6 weeks and she was 4 months along, not sure if the shot caused it and cant find any other information but i am a little concerned about this coincidence.
Time Machine:
I got a flu shot in pregnancy, developed incredibly strange symptoms immediately (numb hands, feet and mouth, heart palpitations, sudden weakness in my legs, a bright red face), began bleeding and miscarried by 11 weeks. I had no idea there was mercury in most flu shots but once I found out after the fact, I was assured that I'd had the "mercury free" form. As it turned out, the shot wasn't completely mercury free and, according to the EPA website, it still had 5,000 times the limit for mercury in drinking water-- not to mention a list of other toxins (MSG, formaldehyde, etc.).
I'd had no idea the shots were so dirty. I guess I'd been under the impression they were something like sterile water and a dead virus, that's it.
The strange symptoms-- which I'd been told were "just pregnancy" lasted six months. No one could figure out what was wrong with me, why I couldn't make stairs, why I felt like I'd been shot with novocaine. I learned later from a book by Jane Hightower that these were all symptoms of mercury exposure. I guess I'm one of those susceptible people. No one in my family is getting the H1N1-- no one even gets regular flu shots anymore, we all read labels.
If you are a pregnant mother, please do not take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. Instead, do everything that you can do to avoid public places and make sure to wash your hands more than you usually would. Take extra large doses of immunity building vitamins and research many of the great natural ways for fighting the flu that are out there on the Internet.
The truth is that if you do take the vaccine and then something happens, you will NOT be able to sue anyone (thanks to Congress). You will have to bear all the responsibility yourself. That doctor who kept pushing and pushing it on you will tell you that it could not have been the vaccine and that you probably would have miscarried anyway.
Do you honestly want to inject a vaccine that may contain mercury, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (associated with infertility), triton X100 (a strong detergent), phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) and a whole bunch of other toxic ingredients into your system when you know that your baby will absorb it too and has no defenses against most of these things?
In the very short video posted below, you will see one health expert explain to Sean Hannity that not even the swine flu vaccine package insert says that it is safe for pregnant women...
The reality is that if you are pregnant, you need to hear what both sides have to say before ever subjecting your baby to the swine flu vaccine. You do NOT want to end up like one of the mothers above. Please help us out by sharing this information with as many people as you can. If you know of any additional H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories please post them below in the comments section.
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Anonymous Posted: Nov 18 2009, 8:00 AM
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207255 Its not the vaccine, its the Squalene adjuvant they put in it. Getting injected with Squalene creates anti-squalene antibodies and a fetus needs Squalene, which converts into Cholesterol which provides nutrients for brain development. Without squalene, no cholesterol, thus starving the fetus of these nutrients for brain development. Source: Embryonic Lethality and Defective Neural Tube Closure in Mice Lacking Squalene Synthase
For God's sakes, the manufactures should at least test this for safety issues in pregnant women. The dots aren't that hard to connect.
Nicole E. Posted: Nov 18 2009, 11:22 AM
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75179 I was told that your body takes two weeks to produce antibodies after getting any vaccine. I miscarried within two weeks of getting the H1N1 vaccine. I do not directly blame this vaccine, but the coincidences some women have are shocking. I had two healthy pregnancies before with no history of miscarriages. I was 7 weeks pregnant. There is just no way to ever know for sure why it happened, but what I do know is that I trust my "mothering instinct" very much and I told my doctor that I did not feel that this vaccine was safe for me. I was strongly persuaded otherwise. So I got the vaccination. Now I will probably continue to wonder..........what if.........
Anonymous Posted: Nov 19 2009, 7:47 PM
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72185 I'm heart broken right now. My daughter was 2 months pregnant with her second baby. She received the swine flu vaccine a week ago and had a miscarriage today.
Stacey Posted: Nov 22 2009, 11:30 PM
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76253 the virus itself may or may not have harmed the fetus. There are significant amounts of mercury, formaldehyde, and aluminum in vaccines which are very toxic!! Why the government keeps insisting vaccines containing these chemicals are safe if beyond me! Unfortunately the drug companies do not care!! I have an autistic son who I believe was harmed by the MMR and Hepatitis B shots! I just sit and get angry and cry when I hear the CDC recommending the vaccines for pregnant women, infants, and children!! Warn pregnant women not to get vaccines and to not let their newborns get the Hepatitis vaccine right after birth! Do the research (FDA website) and see the list of mercury containing vaccines! Beware if they do not contain mercury, they may contain formaldehyde or aluminum! The drug companies are getting rich on scaring people into getting vaccines so they can get rich! Three top drug companies just announced that they made millions of dollars on the swine flu shot!! Beware of any future vaccines too!!! They are in this for profit, not to protect us! My prayers go out to all the women on here!! God Bless all of you and I am sorry for your loss!!
Anonymous Posted: Nov 30 2009, 4:26 PM
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142221 I go the h1n1 shot and 6 .5weeks pregnant. I went for an ultrasound two weeks later when I was supposed to be 8.5 weeks and the ultrasound detected to hearbeat and said my baby was the size of a 6.5 week fetus. Essentially my baby stopped growing at the time I got the shot.
Four days later I lost my baby. I am devatated and it makes me sick to my stomach to think that I got a vaccine that caused this. I will never know for sure but I will never forget either. I grieve for my lost baby every day. Betsy Posted: Nov 30 2009, 8:44 PM
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6919 Unfortunately the H1N1 vaccine has some risks; latest reports show 28 US pregnant women have died and there have been miscarriages. I have written an article on how difficult it is to get pregnant after a miscarriage.
71171 Hi i got this vaccination about 4 days after conception. About a week later i started bleeding and thought i was going to start my period but come to find out i was pregnant. I from the time i started bleeding and on had nothing but problems. At 5 weeks bleeding and cramping, at 7 weeks 5 days more bleeding so the did an ultrasound and there was heart beat of 104, but the baby was small so they said i was only 6 weeks 2 days. Still cramping at 8 weeks another ultrasound done and my fluid was low, and the heart rate was still good at 158. At week 9 continual bleeding and finally a miscarriage. They never could tell were the bleeding was from in any of the scans. I know 5 people who were pregnant two got the vaccination after 20 weeks and are doing fine the other three we all conceieved in october 2009 and November and well all miscarried.
Anonymous Posted: Jan 19 2010, 10:32 AM
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67212 I miscarried a completely uneventful pregnancy within 2 weeks of getting the H1n1 shot. I was 10 weeks when I miscarried. I am devastated. If I should get pregnant again I will never again have any substance such as a vaccine put into my body willingly.
Anonymous Posted: Jan 19 2010, 10:34 AM
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67212 As someone else pointed out, they say the vaccine is not safe for children under 2 - so wouldn't a fetus count??? How come they are then telling pregnant women to get vaccinated!
Anonymous Posted: Jan 21 2010, 3:35 PM
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166205 I was forced to get vaccinated being in the military and now I am terrified. I haven't felt the baby moving as much today but I am 28 weeks along. I just worry my baby is going to come out with some neurological disorder due to mercury though I was told it was mercury
free.
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GlaxoSmithKline’s Pandemrix swine flu jab caused damage to pregnant rats in pretrial studies, but governments are concealing this fact from people.
GlaxoSmithKlein saw increased rates of loss of pregnancies and malformations in offspring of PandemRix “mock-up” vaccinated offspring, but surprisingly documents of EMEA and WHO do not mention these disturbing abnormalities remarks Dr Eric Beeth.
Dr Beeth joined a citizen’s initiative taking the government to court to protect his profession of General Practitioners from unknowingly participating in an illegal experimentation on pregnant women, and practising the experimental vaccination without an informed consent form.
The dangers of this type of government protected experimentation is especially transparent when it comes to pregnant women, where no data, except the NOT very reassuring reproductive toxicity pre-clinical trials on rats existed before the experimental vaccine was tried out on a massive scale on pregnant women: those whom we must protect the most from all types of known and unknown drugs/pharmaceutical products.
Four pregnant women in Belgian are currently engaged in a legal action to obtain NON-EXPERIMENTAL, standard procedure H1N1 flu shots, without adjuvants, and preferably no thiomersal either.
In his article on www.mondialisation.ca , Dr Beeth quotes a paragraph in English from a study showing that offspring from pregnant rats that were given Pandemrix had an increased incidence of foetal malformations: the quote is taken from page 18 of this GSK patient information PDF in Canada:
http://www.gsk.ca/english/docs-pdf/Arepanrix_PIL_CAPA01v01.pdf
In a report in French, Beeth quotes a paragraph from a study showing that rats who were given Pandemrix had an increased incidence of fetal malformations.
There have been no clinical trials on pregnant women.
Pharmaceutical companies such as GSK might be expected to carry out these trials if there is evidence of such fetal malformations in rats. Their failure to do so suggests a deliberate attempt to manipulate clinical trials data to get an dangerous drug through to cause damage to pregnant women.
Four pregnant women in Belgian are planning legal action against the government for recommending the dangerous Pandemrix to pregnant women without adequate data.
This is an extra from the report in French
“Two reproductive studies were conducted with ASO3-adjuvanted H5N1 antigen and evaluated the effect on embryo-fetal and peri-and post-natal development in rats, following intramuscular administration. Although no definite conclusion could be reached, regarding a possible relation to treatment with the H5N1 vaccine and/or the adjuvant ASO3, and other findings were considered normal, the following observations deserve to be mentioned:
In the first study, there was an increased incidence of fetal malformations with markedly medially thickened kinked ribs and bent scapula as well as an increased incidence of dilated ureter and delayed neuro-behavioural maturation.
In the second study, there was an increased incidence of post-implantation loss, and the fetal variation of dilated ureter. Not all findings were observed in both studies, and hence the toxicological significance is uncertain.”
GlaxoSmithKline’s Pandemrix swine flu jab caused damage to pregnant rats in pretrial studies, but governments are concealing this fact from people.
GlaxoSmithKlein saw increased rates of loss of pregnancies and malformations in offspring of PandemRix “mock-up” vaccinated offspring, but surprisingly documents of EMEA and WHO do not mention these disturbing abnormalities remarks Dr Eric Beeth.
Dr Beeth joined a citizen’s initiative taking the government to court to protect his profession of General Practitioners from unknowingly participating in an illegal experimentation on pregnant women, and practising the experimental vaccination without an informed consent form.
The dangers of this type of government protected experimentation is especially transparent when it comes to pregnant women, where no data, except the NOT very reassuring reproductive toxicity pre-clinical trials on rats existed before the experimental vaccine was tried out on a massive scale on pregnant women: those whom we must protect the most from all types of known and unknown drugs/pharmaceutical products.
Four pregnant women in Belgian are currently engaged in a legal action to obtain NON-EXPERIMENTAL, standard procedure H1N1 flu shots, without adjuvants, and preferably no thiomersal either.
In his article on www.mondialisation.ca , Dr Beeth quotes a paragraph in English from a study showing that offspring from pregnant rats that were given Pandemrix had an increased incidence of foetal malformations: the quote is taken from page 18 of this GSK patient information PDF in Canada:
http://www.gsk.ca/english/docs-pdf/Arepanrix_PIL_CAPA01v01.pdf
In a report in French, Beeth quotes a paragraph from a study showing that rats who were given Pandemrix had an increased incidence of fetal malformations.
There have been no clinical trials on pregnant women.
Pharmaceutical companies such as GSK might be expected to carry out these trials if there is evidence of such fetal malformations in rats. Their failure to do so suggests a deliberate attempt to manipulate clinical trials data to get an dangerous drug through to cause damage to pregnant women.
Four pregnant women in Belgian are planning legal action against the government for recommending the dangerous Pandemrix to pregnant women without adequate data.
This is an extra from the report in French
“Two reproductive studies were conducted with ASO3-adjuvanted H5N1 antigen and evaluated the effect on embryo-fetal and peri-and post-natal development in rats, following intramuscular administration. Although no definite conclusion could be reached, regarding a possible relation to treatment with the H5N1 vaccine and/or the adjuvant ASO3, and other findings were considered normal, the following observations deserve to be mentioned:
In the first study, there was an increased incidence of fetal malformations with markedly medially thickened kinked ribs and bent scapula as well as an increased incidence of dilated ureter and delayed neuro-behavioural maturation.
In the second study, there was an increased incidence of post-implantation loss, and the fetal variation of dilated ureter. Not all findings were observed in both studies, and hence the toxicological significance is uncertain.”
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H1n1 swine flu vaccine deaths being reported all over Europe
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H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Deaths Being Reported All Over Europe
Normally people do not drop dead after taking a vaccine. More commonly, the adverse effects of taking a vaccine take a while to show up, as only later victims develop autism, dementia, neurological disorders, paralysis, infertility or cancer (among a wide variety of other conditions). However, numerous reports are now coming in from all over Europe of people becoming seriously ill and even dropping dead after getting injected with the H1N1 swine flu vaccine.
*In Sweden, there have been over 350 reported serious adverse reactions to the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, and there have been five people who have died there after taking the vaccine. Reportedly there is now a media blackout on reporting any additional deaths from the swine flu vaccine as the authorities do not want to discourage people from getting the vaccine.
*In Northern Ireland, a 15-year-old boy fell seriously ill and was on the verge of death less than 24 hours after receiving the swine flu vaccine.
*A 64 year old woman in Hungary recently dropped dead two days after she received the swine flu vaccine.
*The Flu Case website is reporting on other deaths from the swine flu vaccine in Europe, but so far those reports have not been confirmed.
In addition, on our sister site Bird Flu Pandemic, our readers have been reporting numerous horror stories regarding the swine flu vaccine.....
Pina:
my daughter is a nurse. She was at another clinic as a patient one day after H1N1 vaccines started. The staff there let her know that one man collapsed after getting the shot. A nurse that she went to school with had the vaccine and her arm went partially paralyzed. The feeling came back into her arm slightly and now she is in sheer pain. Don’t get the H1N1 shot, or flu shots if you haven’t.please.
Ann:
My friend was diagnosed w/GBS today. She had the H1N1 vaccine on Tuesday. She woke up friday morn. with one side of her face paralized, now almost her whole face is paralized. She is starting blood and plasma transfusions tonight. She will be transferred to Barnes hospital soon for more extensive testing. To those who laugh at the severity of this strange, unknown sickness and vaccine I hope you stay informed and not ignorant.
Carrie:
I am a healthcare employee…..the only vaccine offered to employees was the live vaccine. I decided to get it and be the “guinea pig” instead of my toddler. Received the nasal spray on Tuesday, woke up Wednesday with a sore throat and stuffy nose, Thursday had a terrible chest congestion/cough with fever and splitting headache, Friday all symptoms were worse and I couldn’t breathe! I was diagnosed on Friday with H1N1 and pneumonia….. good thing I got the vaccine, huh?
The reality is that the swine flu vaccine is untested and unsafe. The vaccine manufacturers have been given blanket immunity by Congress so you cannot sue them if something goes wrong. There are going to be many more serious side effects and many more deaths from the swine flu vaccine. Make sure that your family is not the next vaccine horror story.
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38 comments to H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Deaths Being Reported All Over Europe
Angel_B
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:09 am
Many of the vaccines in Europe and the rest of the world contain adjuvants to boost the immune response to the vaccine. Adjuvants have been associated with a higher prevalence of reactions. In the US, the vaccines DO NOT have adjuvants. Also, in order to avoid the thimerisol, simply ask for the preservative free version of the vaccine. Do your own research people. If someone was diagnosed within 10 days of getting the vaccine with H1N1 it was because they were exposed to the virus before the vaccine had a chance to become effective. In being a healthcare employee, I venture to say that someone you came in contact with had the virus, you did not get sick from the vaccine.
Dr Mike
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I’m am both astounded and appalled by the frenzy and fervor with which the media shills are pushing the flu shots. It’s essentially every page from the progaganda play book, including appeal to scarcity, jump on the bandwagon, control through fear, cherry-picking the results of studies and outright lies. In 1999 I got the flu shot and pneumovax and wound up hospitalized with flu and near killer pneumonia. I’ve had asthma ever since and will never get vaccine of any kind again.
suddencall
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
The main problem with the advise from government health advisors is that the government in the USA has zero creditability.The liars have no bounds and no morals at all.
Nancy
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
US vaccines DO contain an adjuvant. It’s called aluminum!! Do your homework please.
Tom Mahon
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 am
Like the HIV virus, the H1N1 virus doesn’t appear to be a natural virus orignating from nature. It appears to bear all the hallmarks of a virus created in a lab and deliberately disseminated among the public.
Elucidatus
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
US Vaccinations also have what you call traces of Mercury..http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaxsupply.htm
Elucidatus
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Here are your adjuvants… Angel_B please do your homework.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf
susie q
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Actually, you people need to get your info correct. Adjuvent is not aluminum. I know you want to think it is because you are all convinced it is what causes autism(which by the way a study was just released this past week that concluded that there is absolutely no connection between the two) Adjuvent is a small chopped up amount of the dead virus suspended in an fish oil based substance that increases the efficacy and speed of the vaccine. It is not aluminum. This is why they are recommending that people with fish allergies get the non adjuvent vaccine. And if you dig deeper you will discover that 98% of the people who have had serious side effects or death have had underlying health issue some known to the patient, some not known, that created the side effects. I’m sorry but those numbers don’t warrant my kid dying or developing a neurological problem because I didn’t vaccinate them. You have to look at the bigger picture. Yeah, I would probably be inconsolable if i vaccinated them and something happened but knowing the numbers, I would never forgive myself if there was someway I could prevent it and I didn’t.
Connectingdots
November 6th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Hi Folks!
Just wanna let you know that the poster below me is an imposter and is Actually a Big pharma empolyee working as a Moderator on another flu tracking site. ALL his posts’ are pro-vaccine..even when presented with the list of dangers incurred by the adjuvants!!!..THIMEROSOL,MERCURY,Tween 80,Formalydehyde,ect..
PLEASE DO YOUR OWN HOME WORK!
DO NOT BELIEVE INTERNET BABBLE!!!!!!!
Erin
November 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Has anyone bothered to look up the statistics on how $any people die annually from the seasonal flu vaccine? The numbers are different only because there is a different amount of people rushing to get H1N1 vaccine. I cannot tell anyone what to do or think but in my city over 5000 vaccines (nasal & injection) have been given out to high risk (children 6 months -24yrs,caretakers of infants under 6 months, healthcare employees,people with underlying health issues) and NO one has died. Yes there has been reactions. I for 1 had an extreme head ache and was nauseous for about 24 hrs. Did I rin to doctor? No there was no way to know if vaccine TRULY caused it. I do not work for govt or Pharma comp. I am a wife & new mother that wants to protect my 4 month old son and feel extremely sorry for those that listen to others and basically get involved with mass hysteria!
glory
November 9th, 2009 at 5:09 am
For erin and others who are pro vaccinations. Please visit the following websites:
http://www.garynull.com
http://www.drtenpenny.com
http://www.mercola.com
http://www.fluscam.com
No vaccine has ever been proven safe or effective!!!
chris
November 9th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Ok Here is some info I received from the CDC/Health Department that is contacting local schools and preschools as points to come to do mass vaccine clinic’s. I had heard that anyone receiveing the H1N1 live nasal vaccine was contagious for 3 weeks so I called to get clarifications. I was told that actually they were only contagious for 21 days( ah what is that 3 weeks right) and specifically to those with compromised immune system. When I asked if they are contagious for so long why are they out in the general public to spread it and the around the bush answer I received was well in the general population it would be rare for someone to contract the virus if they were healthy. the number you can call to verify this information is 1 8773523581 or 7278246964 I read the paperwork that parents must sign and it clearly states that your rights to sue is limited. I had the H1 N1 already and do not wish for anyone to suffer unneccasarily. Please read the information that is out there and make an informed decision about getting the vaccine. Look at the vaccine from the 1933 and 1970’s and the outcomes there.
Nancy
November 10th, 2009 at 4:46 am
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837642
PubMed says aluminun IS AN ADJUVANT! How much more evidence do you need???
EdmanThunder
November 10th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
@ susie q
they put 25μg of ethyl merc into the vaccines (ethyl is 49.6% merc) so even the 17.5μg (low concentrations range 0.7–42 μg/m3 in lab tests) is still in the toxicity levels to !!MINIMALLY!! do tremors, impair cognitive skills, and sleep disturbance. quote “It (ethyl mercury) probably does not have methylmercury’s ability to cross the blood-brain barrier via a transporter, but instead relies on simple diffusion to enter the brain.” !!AND!! one of his colleagues -Burbacher has stated “In primates, you actually get more mercury in the brain after exposure to ethyl mercury than with methyl mercury — it has an easier time crossing the blood-brain barrier.”
here is a study from the University of Calgary on what mercury ((methyl AND ethyl)) does with your mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lig6ovqkNtQ\
**** i’m sorry if you are not allowed to post links i think it is important for people to make informed decisions about swine flu
EdmanThunder
November 10th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
read up on it (sorry again for double posting >_<) http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/569558
cindy
November 10th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Why is this information not being reported here in the US on local news, cable news, world news or in our national and local newspapers. They don’t want you to know the truth about the dangers associated with this Swine flu vaccine and what is happening in Europe especially in the Ukraine!!!
http://www.rense.com/ (links on Rense website)
***WHO Silence on Ukraine Sequences Raises Pandemic Concerns(Recombinomics Commentary 19:01)
November 9, 2009***
***Reported Ukraine Fatalities Increase To 155
Recombinomics Commentary 02:08
November 9, 2009***
969,247 Influenza/ARI
48,972 Hospitalized
155 Dead
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11090901/Ukraine_155.html
Raven
November 11th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Do Flu Shots Work? Ask a Vaccine Maker…
This is a recorded phone call to a vaccine maker. The caller asks questions about mercury and how well the flu shot actually works. When asked if she personally takes the vaccine.. well hear for your self. Its actually funny how she hesitated to respond but listen to her response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtC39wUZGw&feature=player_embedded
Pete Provo
November 11th, 2009 at 9:21 am
This is a load of scaremongering twaddle. Of course people are not dying from the vaccine, if they were the health services would not be using it. I’m sure this won’t appear on these webpages but I may as well write it.
c-dawg
November 13th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Infowars – H1N1 mutation evidence through symptoms
Jessica O
November 13th, 2009 at 3:11 am
I am 13 weeks pregnant and am recommended by my ob-gyn to get the h1n1 vaccine and am not sure wether or not it will be safe for my baby or me. i have read dozens of sites and still not convinced on either end. I would like to hear from another prenant woman who has or had not had the vaccine and give me their views on the situation
Nicole
November 13th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Sad to hear that there are few more reported cases of death on H1N1 swine flu vaccine all over Europe. I believe people should be educated about vaccines first before they try and go for immunization.
Swine flu vaccine alternative
November 13th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Don’t take these vaccines!!! I was paralyzed my the “76″ Swine flu shot! Don’t take it!!! Go natural and protect yourself from these viruses,bacterias,germs and cancers!! Please check this out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSQKNIdw6s
Anette
November 13th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Hey you guys know that the dead numbers are the same as any else vaccine?!? Those just aren’t told out to the world…
And when you think about the whole population of some country and after what are the numbers of dead 1 procent? Or even lower it is..
And you in Finland we hav’ only that vaccine that can kill those who are allergic to eggs just because finnish congress decided to save some money!!
And first of all that company who develop that vaccine were hav’ to pressure some country’s (like Finland) to buy that vaccine.
I know ppl can paralyze and die on that vaccine but really it’s the same thing than other vaccines it’s just havn’t yet been studied so much…
I wouldn’t want to take that ‘cauze the fear of spikes but after all I hav astma and just couple weeks ago I had bronchitis and because of that I was hav to be in breathing facility so think of that how damaging H1N1 can be to ppl like me..
ct
November 17th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Here is a site for those who still use their brains and want good sources: http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/ No shills for Big Pharma need apply here. On this website, the CDC’s dishonesty is put out for the public to see. Government doesn’t care about your health and safety–nor do the pharmaceutical companies. There is big money to be made off of vaccinations–and especially illness.
Eric
November 18th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I don’t know about other countries, but in Canada many are also suggesting that most people who eventually come in the hospitals with serious complications do to the H1N1 virus get a Tamiflu shot which is an anti viral medecine to supposedly help fight the virus. In his opinion http://www.jean-jacques-crevecoeur.com/, a great number of initial news reports stated something to the effect that “even with the help of Tamiflu, the patient didn’t make it”. But they do not question that medication, they simply put it in a way to show that even with the “great” medicine, the virus is so strong that it will kill you! Where in effect Tamiflu might of been the cause of death! That medeication has been banned in JApan which was the biggest user worldwide! Strangely, since that was exposed, the media do not report information on Tamiflu anymore. And I encourage you to get information about the company who comercializes Tamiflu (GI Lead) and it’s former CEO… Does the name Donald Rumsfeld ring any bell??
Steve Michaels
November 19th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Whilst it is true that the vaccines being tested my the NIH do not contain Thimerisol or Squalene, Panderix DOES. Don’t be fooled! The NIH is testing apples and giving the public oranges and saying that the testing is proving safe when it’s not even the same product!! Don’t believe me, look at this: http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/QA/H1N1pregnanttrials.htm. Particularly question 9. If you get the vaccine, YOU are the guinea pig!!
kelly
November 27th, 2009 at 2:45 am
Hello Pete Provo! What is ’scaremongering twaddle’? This blog entry does not seem to be so. Here are brief details of the deaths reported to the Swedish Medical Products Agency in Läkemedelsverket:
1. On Oct 22nd 2009, a 50 year-old man – with serious heart conditions – died 12 hours after h1n1 shots. It’s reported that he had had multiple heart attacks before passing away.
2. On the same day, a 65-year-old woman died.
3. A 90-year-old woman – with acute muscle disease – died after receiving the vaccine (reported by newspaper Expressen).
4. On October 24th 2009, a 74 year-old woman in northern Sweden – with lungs and heart disease – died 4 days after receiving the swine flu vaccine.
5. A man in Västernorrland, Sweden has died after being vaccinated with the swine flu vaccine Pandemrix (with live adjuvants).
5 deaths in Sweden is NOT fairy tale. WAKE UP!
Ken in Dublin, Ireland
November 28th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
I don’t trust any of the pro-vaccination shills here.
There is too much information demonstrating the dangers of these vaccines versus the dangers of the Swine flu virus.
I know of no one who has had the Swine flu, and I will gladly risk the tiny chance of catching the flu and letting my natural defences deal with it rather than volunteer to be potentially poisoned by unscrupulous, profiteering pharmaceutical companies.
Shame on you pro-vaccination lie mercenaries.
Lou
November 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
“In the US, the vaccines DO NOT have adjuvants.”
Well we were told no adjuvants. But our government has purchased hundreds of millions of dollars of the deadly squalene oil adjuvants. Canada, who is receiving the deadly squalene in their “vaccinations”, is mixing the oil based squalene containing adjuvants with the antigens AT the VACCINATION SITE. There are reports this is happening in the US also. Ask, demand to read the vaccination fact sheet at least one day before you allow the needle into your precious blood.
If any good good is to come out of this perhaps the greatest political disaster in our history it will be the realization that almost EVERYTHING we have been told by “the authorities” about “vaccination” is a lie.
The “authorities” have know of the simple common sense rule that you DO MOT vaccinate pregnant women for decades. They KNOW you do not vaccinate pregnant women with an untested “vaccination”, it is so stated on the vaccine circular. They KNOW you do not take an IMMENSE risk for almost NO reward.
Something is VERY wrong folks the hundreds of good PhDs at CDC are being overridden by upper level political management.
WHY?
http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vaccine.htm
Lou
November 29th, 2009 at 12:56 am
“Koch made the first vaccine for tuberculosis. He called the vaccine tuberculin. In Berlin alone, 2000 patients were inoculated with tuberculin. Unfortunately they died at a higher rate than TB patients who hadn’t been treated at all. Tuberculin simply did not work. More distressing for Koch was the admission by the Prussian government that they’d made an exclusive agreement with Koch to sell the remedy and divide the profits. Not only was this a political disaster for the Prussian government and for Koch himself, but it was an embarrassment for the cause of scientific medicine when all the prestige of the scientific method suddenly suffered this blow. Koch never recovered his credibility and is remembered today only for his “Postulates.” But Koch helped set the stage for the marriage of science and marketing, for which divorce does not appear likely any time soon, especially at present.” The Doctor Within,
Note NOTHING has changed in the last two hundred years. These exclusive agreements have been codified into a bureaucracy. The CDC is at it’s higher political levels an arm of the Rockefeller vaccination empire. The facts about “vaccination” have been hidden and distorted. Perhaps we forget that the Rockefeller family are strong eugenicists who believe the world is overpopulated. We should not forget this.
Google “Simpsonwood CDC” and learn how the CDC held a secret meeting with every “vaccine” manufacturer and conspired how to change the data from a massive multi-year study which showed absolutely that vaccination DID cause significant neurological damage. After they changed the data to show what they desired, they destroyed the original data from this expensive study. Folks I am no lawyer but to me this constitutes premeditated statistical murder.
If we had an honest government every one connected with this ILLEGAL cabal would be fired or delicensed and hopefully imprisoned. The results of this single meeting will result IMO in the deaths and mutilation of so many of our children it sickens me.
Alicia
November 30th, 2009 at 1:31 am
It is hard to know what to believe, but here are some things to consider. I am pregnant, and upon my first visit to my midwifery center I was handed a paper urging me to get the H1N1 vaccine, because supposedly pregnant women are at a very high risk of getting the virus. The statistic I was given is that approximately 6% of all H1N1 deaths have been pregnant women. Another statistic I have heard is that less than HALF of 1% of all people who have contracted the actual virus have died or become very seriously ill. This number does not tell us how many of those people were in some way immunocompromised to begin with. Okay, now consider the actual percentage of ALL people, including pregnant women, who have actually CONTRACTED this virus, with or without the vaccine. It’s a small percentage. They’ve predicted that 60% of the US population could become infected, but so far that prediction seems really sketchy, as I can tell you right now fewer than probably 1% of the people I KNOW have been infected: one of the very few people I know who HAS been infected is also pregnant, and she recovered with no complications after only a few days, having never gotten the vaccine (which means she and her child will likely both have immunity to this particular strand of the flu forevermore). Okay, so what all of this tells me is that my chance of getting the swine flu at ALL is fairly slim, and that if I do by some chance get it (even though I’m on pre-natal vitamins which include absurd amounts of Vitamin D and don’t generally spend a lot of time in crowded public places), my chance of actually getting seriously ill or dying from it is still pretty damn slim, even though I am, indeed, a pregnant woman. Remember, the 6% statistic is in relation to how many of the people who have died have been pregnant women, not how many people who’ve contracted the illness have died.
Now, I CANNOT tell you what the risk to me or my baby would be if I got the VACCINE, because NO long term studies have been done on this matter. NO ONE seems to have a solid statistic on how many people have reported ill effects from the vaccine. But history tells us that vaccines don’t have the greatest track record, and the last swine flu vaccine they handed out in the seventies had some very real, very dangerous side effects. So without any solid information on the matter and some sketchy history, I’m going to go with the VERY good odds that in the next five months my child and I will NOT be seriously harmed by H1N1. Because those odds make sense to me. The lack of solid information on the other end doesn’t give me any odds at all.
Steph
December 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 am
Guillan-Barre is known to follow a virus as well as a vaccine. But if you are afraid of side effects from the vaccine, don’t get vaccinated. As a matter of fact, let’s take this a step further.
Encourage everybody to avoid flu vaccines.
Next, encourage everybody to avoid all vaccines.
Next, diseases that have not caused epidemics for decades will reappear. Measles, Mumps, German Measles, Whooping Cough, Diphtheria, Tetanus. We KNOW the side effects of those!
And don’t give me a line of bull that those hawking “natural” treatments are not trying to make a buck. I am not any sort of member of so called “Big Pharm.” As a registered nurse, I fully believe that many medications are over-prescribed. However, in this case I feel this web site is irresponsible to the point of being criminal, trying to convince people that you can avoid these diseases by using herbs and spices.
Sean
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
my mom got the H1n1 shot saturday, and was in bed with a feven saturday night. she has been diagnosed with the virus. this is the second “coincidence” that I know of personally. Why is this not being reported.
Karen
December 4th, 2009 at 4:22 am
I suggest anyone pregnany wondering whether to get the vaccine or not take a look at this: http://organichealthadviser.com/archives/shocking-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-miscarriage-stores-from-pregnant-women-tell-your-doctors-that-vaccines-and-pregnancy-do-not-mix
Women all over the country are miscarrying healthy babies after getting flu vaccines.
While vaccines are useful for some conditions, this is not the case with the flu. And clearly, we need to change the way we do vaccinations in this country, especially where children are concerned.
But no woman should lose her baby because of this
H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Deaths Being Reported All Over Europe
Normally people do not drop dead after taking a vaccine. More commonly, the adverse effects of taking a vaccine take a while to show up, as only later victims develop autism, dementia, neurological disorders, paralysis, infertility or cancer (among a wide variety of other conditions). However, numerous reports are now coming in from all over Europe of people becoming seriously ill and even dropping dead after getting injected with the H1N1 swine flu vaccine.
*In Sweden, there have been over 350 reported serious adverse reactions to the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, and there have been five people who have died there after taking the vaccine. Reportedly there is now a media blackout on reporting any additional deaths from the swine flu vaccine as the authorities do not want to discourage people from getting the vaccine.
*In Northern Ireland, a 15-year-old boy fell seriously ill and was on the verge of death less than 24 hours after receiving the swine flu vaccine.
*A 64 year old woman in Hungary recently dropped dead two days after she received the swine flu vaccine.
*The Flu Case website is reporting on other deaths from the swine flu vaccine in Europe, but so far those reports have not been confirmed.
In addition, on our sister site Bird Flu Pandemic, our readers have been reporting numerous horror stories regarding the swine flu vaccine.....
Pina:
my daughter is a nurse. She was at another clinic as a patient one day after H1N1 vaccines started. The staff there let her know that one man collapsed after getting the shot. A nurse that she went to school with had the vaccine and her arm went partially paralyzed. The feeling came back into her arm slightly and now she is in sheer pain. Don’t get the H1N1 shot, or flu shots if you haven’t.please.
Ann:
My friend was diagnosed w/GBS today. She had the H1N1 vaccine on Tuesday. She woke up friday morn. with one side of her face paralized, now almost her whole face is paralized. She is starting blood and plasma transfusions tonight. She will be transferred to Barnes hospital soon for more extensive testing. To those who laugh at the severity of this strange, unknown sickness and vaccine I hope you stay informed and not ignorant.
Carrie:
I am a healthcare employee…..the only vaccine offered to employees was the live vaccine. I decided to get it and be the “guinea pig” instead of my toddler. Received the nasal spray on Tuesday, woke up Wednesday with a sore throat and stuffy nose, Thursday had a terrible chest congestion/cough with fever and splitting headache, Friday all symptoms were worse and I couldn’t breathe! I was diagnosed on Friday with H1N1 and pneumonia….. good thing I got the vaccine, huh?
The reality is that the swine flu vaccine is untested and unsafe. The vaccine manufacturers have been given blanket immunity by Congress so you cannot sue them if something goes wrong. There are going to be many more serious side effects and many more deaths from the swine flu vaccine. Make sure that your family is not the next vaccine horror story.
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38 comments to H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Deaths Being Reported All Over Europe
Angel_B
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:09 am
Many of the vaccines in Europe and the rest of the world contain adjuvants to boost the immune response to the vaccine. Adjuvants have been associated with a higher prevalence of reactions. In the US, the vaccines DO NOT have adjuvants. Also, in order to avoid the thimerisol, simply ask for the preservative free version of the vaccine. Do your own research people. If someone was diagnosed within 10 days of getting the vaccine with H1N1 it was because they were exposed to the virus before the vaccine had a chance to become effective. In being a healthcare employee, I venture to say that someone you came in contact with had the virus, you did not get sick from the vaccine.
Dr Mike
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I’m am both astounded and appalled by the frenzy and fervor with which the media shills are pushing the flu shots. It’s essentially every page from the progaganda play book, including appeal to scarcity, jump on the bandwagon, control through fear, cherry-picking the results of studies and outright lies. In 1999 I got the flu shot and pneumovax and wound up hospitalized with flu and near killer pneumonia. I’ve had asthma ever since and will never get vaccine of any kind again.
suddencall
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pm
The main problem with the advise from government health advisors is that the government in the USA has zero creditability.The liars have no bounds and no morals at all.
Nancy
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
US vaccines DO contain an adjuvant. It’s called aluminum!! Do your homework please.
Tom Mahon
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 am
Like the HIV virus, the H1N1 virus doesn’t appear to be a natural virus orignating from nature. It appears to bear all the hallmarks of a virus created in a lab and deliberately disseminated among the public.
Elucidatus
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
US Vaccinations also have what you call traces of Mercury..http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaxsupply.htm
Elucidatus
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Here are your adjuvants… Angel_B please do your homework.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf
susie q
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Actually, you people need to get your info correct. Adjuvent is not aluminum. I know you want to think it is because you are all convinced it is what causes autism(which by the way a study was just released this past week that concluded that there is absolutely no connection between the two) Adjuvent is a small chopped up amount of the dead virus suspended in an fish oil based substance that increases the efficacy and speed of the vaccine. It is not aluminum. This is why they are recommending that people with fish allergies get the non adjuvent vaccine. And if you dig deeper you will discover that 98% of the people who have had serious side effects or death have had underlying health issue some known to the patient, some not known, that created the side effects. I’m sorry but those numbers don’t warrant my kid dying or developing a neurological problem because I didn’t vaccinate them. You have to look at the bigger picture. Yeah, I would probably be inconsolable if i vaccinated them and something happened but knowing the numbers, I would never forgive myself if there was someway I could prevent it and I didn’t.
Connectingdots
November 6th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Hi Folks!
Just wanna let you know that the poster below me is an imposter and is Actually a Big pharma empolyee working as a Moderator on another flu tracking site. ALL his posts’ are pro-vaccine..even when presented with the list of dangers incurred by the adjuvants!!!..THIMEROSOL,MERCURY,Tween 80,Formalydehyde,ect..
PLEASE DO YOUR OWN HOME WORK!
DO NOT BELIEVE INTERNET BABBLE!!!!!!!
Erin
November 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Has anyone bothered to look up the statistics on how $any people die annually from the seasonal flu vaccine? The numbers are different only because there is a different amount of people rushing to get H1N1 vaccine. I cannot tell anyone what to do or think but in my city over 5000 vaccines (nasal & injection) have been given out to high risk (children 6 months -24yrs,caretakers of infants under 6 months, healthcare employees,people with underlying health issues) and NO one has died. Yes there has been reactions. I for 1 had an extreme head ache and was nauseous for about 24 hrs. Did I rin to doctor? No there was no way to know if vaccine TRULY caused it. I do not work for govt or Pharma comp. I am a wife & new mother that wants to protect my 4 month old son and feel extremely sorry for those that listen to others and basically get involved with mass hysteria!
glory
November 9th, 2009 at 5:09 am
For erin and others who are pro vaccinations. Please visit the following websites:
http://www.garynull.com
http://www.drtenpenny.com
http://www.mercola.com
http://www.fluscam.com
No vaccine has ever been proven safe or effective!!!
chris
November 9th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Ok Here is some info I received from the CDC/Health Department that is contacting local schools and preschools as points to come to do mass vaccine clinic’s. I had heard that anyone receiveing the H1N1 live nasal vaccine was contagious for 3 weeks so I called to get clarifications. I was told that actually they were only contagious for 21 days( ah what is that 3 weeks right) and specifically to those with compromised immune system. When I asked if they are contagious for so long why are they out in the general public to spread it and the around the bush answer I received was well in the general population it would be rare for someone to contract the virus if they were healthy. the number you can call to verify this information is 1 8773523581 or 7278246964 I read the paperwork that parents must sign and it clearly states that your rights to sue is limited. I had the H1 N1 already and do not wish for anyone to suffer unneccasarily. Please read the information that is out there and make an informed decision about getting the vaccine. Look at the vaccine from the 1933 and 1970’s and the outcomes there.
Nancy
November 10th, 2009 at 4:46 am
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10837642
PubMed says aluminun IS AN ADJUVANT! How much more evidence do you need???
EdmanThunder
November 10th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
@ susie q
they put 25μg of ethyl merc into the vaccines (ethyl is 49.6% merc) so even the 17.5μg (low concentrations range 0.7–42 μg/m3 in lab tests) is still in the toxicity levels to !!MINIMALLY!! do tremors, impair cognitive skills, and sleep disturbance. quote “It (ethyl mercury) probably does not have methylmercury’s ability to cross the blood-brain barrier via a transporter, but instead relies on simple diffusion to enter the brain.” !!AND!! one of his colleagues -Burbacher has stated “In primates, you actually get more mercury in the brain after exposure to ethyl mercury than with methyl mercury — it has an easier time crossing the blood-brain barrier.”
here is a study from the University of Calgary on what mercury ((methyl AND ethyl)) does with your mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lig6ovqkNtQ\
**** i’m sorry if you are not allowed to post links i think it is important for people to make informed decisions about swine flu
EdmanThunder
November 10th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
read up on it (sorry again for double posting >_<) http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/569558
cindy
November 10th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Why is this information not being reported here in the US on local news, cable news, world news or in our national and local newspapers. They don’t want you to know the truth about the dangers associated with this Swine flu vaccine and what is happening in Europe especially in the Ukraine!!!
http://www.rense.com/ (links on Rense website)
***WHO Silence on Ukraine Sequences Raises Pandemic Concerns(Recombinomics Commentary 19:01)
November 9, 2009***
***Reported Ukraine Fatalities Increase To 155
Recombinomics Commentary 02:08
November 9, 2009***
969,247 Influenza/ARI
48,972 Hospitalized
155 Dead
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11090901/Ukraine_155.html
Raven
November 11th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Do Flu Shots Work? Ask a Vaccine Maker…
This is a recorded phone call to a vaccine maker. The caller asks questions about mercury and how well the flu shot actually works. When asked if she personally takes the vaccine.. well hear for your self. Its actually funny how she hesitated to respond but listen to her response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPtC39wUZGw&feature=player_embedded
Pete Provo
November 11th, 2009 at 9:21 am
This is a load of scaremongering twaddle. Of course people are not dying from the vaccine, if they were the health services would not be using it. I’m sure this won’t appear on these webpages but I may as well write it.
c-dawg
November 13th, 2009 at 2:42 am
Infowars – H1N1 mutation evidence through symptoms
Jessica O
November 13th, 2009 at 3:11 am
I am 13 weeks pregnant and am recommended by my ob-gyn to get the h1n1 vaccine and am not sure wether or not it will be safe for my baby or me. i have read dozens of sites and still not convinced on either end. I would like to hear from another prenant woman who has or had not had the vaccine and give me their views on the situation
Nicole
November 13th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Sad to hear that there are few more reported cases of death on H1N1 swine flu vaccine all over Europe. I believe people should be educated about vaccines first before they try and go for immunization.
Swine flu vaccine alternative
November 13th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Don’t take these vaccines!!! I was paralyzed my the “76″ Swine flu shot! Don’t take it!!! Go natural and protect yourself from these viruses,bacterias,germs and cancers!! Please check this out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSQKNIdw6s
Anette
November 13th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Hey you guys know that the dead numbers are the same as any else vaccine?!? Those just aren’t told out to the world…
And when you think about the whole population of some country and after what are the numbers of dead 1 procent? Or even lower it is..
And you in Finland we hav’ only that vaccine that can kill those who are allergic to eggs just because finnish congress decided to save some money!!
And first of all that company who develop that vaccine were hav’ to pressure some country’s (like Finland) to buy that vaccine.
I know ppl can paralyze and die on that vaccine but really it’s the same thing than other vaccines it’s just havn’t yet been studied so much…
I wouldn’t want to take that ‘cauze the fear of spikes but after all I hav astma and just couple weeks ago I had bronchitis and because of that I was hav to be in breathing facility so think of that how damaging H1N1 can be to ppl like me..
ct
November 17th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Here is a site for those who still use their brains and want good sources: http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/ No shills for Big Pharma need apply here. On this website, the CDC’s dishonesty is put out for the public to see. Government doesn’t care about your health and safety–nor do the pharmaceutical companies. There is big money to be made off of vaccinations–and especially illness.
Eric
November 18th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I don’t know about other countries, but in Canada many are also suggesting that most people who eventually come in the hospitals with serious complications do to the H1N1 virus get a Tamiflu shot which is an anti viral medecine to supposedly help fight the virus. In his opinion http://www.jean-jacques-crevecoeur.com/, a great number of initial news reports stated something to the effect that “even with the help of Tamiflu, the patient didn’t make it”. But they do not question that medication, they simply put it in a way to show that even with the “great” medicine, the virus is so strong that it will kill you! Where in effect Tamiflu might of been the cause of death! That medeication has been banned in JApan which was the biggest user worldwide! Strangely, since that was exposed, the media do not report information on Tamiflu anymore. And I encourage you to get information about the company who comercializes Tamiflu (GI Lead) and it’s former CEO… Does the name Donald Rumsfeld ring any bell??
Steve Michaels
November 19th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Whilst it is true that the vaccines being tested my the NIH do not contain Thimerisol or Squalene, Panderix DOES. Don’t be fooled! The NIH is testing apples and giving the public oranges and saying that the testing is proving safe when it’s not even the same product!! Don’t believe me, look at this: http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/QA/H1N1pregnanttrials.htm. Particularly question 9. If you get the vaccine, YOU are the guinea pig!!
kelly
November 27th, 2009 at 2:45 am
Hello Pete Provo! What is ’scaremongering twaddle’? This blog entry does not seem to be so. Here are brief details of the deaths reported to the Swedish Medical Products Agency in Läkemedelsverket:
1. On Oct 22nd 2009, a 50 year-old man – with serious heart conditions – died 12 hours after h1n1 shots. It’s reported that he had had multiple heart attacks before passing away.
2. On the same day, a 65-year-old woman died.
3. A 90-year-old woman – with acute muscle disease – died after receiving the vaccine (reported by newspaper Expressen).
4. On October 24th 2009, a 74 year-old woman in northern Sweden – with lungs and heart disease – died 4 days after receiving the swine flu vaccine.
5. A man in Västernorrland, Sweden has died after being vaccinated with the swine flu vaccine Pandemrix (with live adjuvants).
5 deaths in Sweden is NOT fairy tale. WAKE UP!
Ken in Dublin, Ireland
November 28th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
I don’t trust any of the pro-vaccination shills here.
There is too much information demonstrating the dangers of these vaccines versus the dangers of the Swine flu virus.
I know of no one who has had the Swine flu, and I will gladly risk the tiny chance of catching the flu and letting my natural defences deal with it rather than volunteer to be potentially poisoned by unscrupulous, profiteering pharmaceutical companies.
Shame on you pro-vaccination lie mercenaries.
Lou
November 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
“In the US, the vaccines DO NOT have adjuvants.”
Well we were told no adjuvants. But our government has purchased hundreds of millions of dollars of the deadly squalene oil adjuvants. Canada, who is receiving the deadly squalene in their “vaccinations”, is mixing the oil based squalene containing adjuvants with the antigens AT the VACCINATION SITE. There are reports this is happening in the US also. Ask, demand to read the vaccination fact sheet at least one day before you allow the needle into your precious blood.
If any good good is to come out of this perhaps the greatest political disaster in our history it will be the realization that almost EVERYTHING we have been told by “the authorities” about “vaccination” is a lie.
The “authorities” have know of the simple common sense rule that you DO MOT vaccinate pregnant women for decades. They KNOW you do not vaccinate pregnant women with an untested “vaccination”, it is so stated on the vaccine circular. They KNOW you do not take an IMMENSE risk for almost NO reward.
Something is VERY wrong folks the hundreds of good PhDs at CDC are being overridden by upper level political management.
WHY?
http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vaccine.htm
Lou
November 29th, 2009 at 12:56 am
“Koch made the first vaccine for tuberculosis. He called the vaccine tuberculin. In Berlin alone, 2000 patients were inoculated with tuberculin. Unfortunately they died at a higher rate than TB patients who hadn’t been treated at all. Tuberculin simply did not work. More distressing for Koch was the admission by the Prussian government that they’d made an exclusive agreement with Koch to sell the remedy and divide the profits. Not only was this a political disaster for the Prussian government and for Koch himself, but it was an embarrassment for the cause of scientific medicine when all the prestige of the scientific method suddenly suffered this blow. Koch never recovered his credibility and is remembered today only for his “Postulates.” But Koch helped set the stage for the marriage of science and marketing, for which divorce does not appear likely any time soon, especially at present.” The Doctor Within,
Note NOTHING has changed in the last two hundred years. These exclusive agreements have been codified into a bureaucracy. The CDC is at it’s higher political levels an arm of the Rockefeller vaccination empire. The facts about “vaccination” have been hidden and distorted. Perhaps we forget that the Rockefeller family are strong eugenicists who believe the world is overpopulated. We should not forget this.
Google “Simpsonwood CDC” and learn how the CDC held a secret meeting with every “vaccine” manufacturer and conspired how to change the data from a massive multi-year study which showed absolutely that vaccination DID cause significant neurological damage. After they changed the data to show what they desired, they destroyed the original data from this expensive study. Folks I am no lawyer but to me this constitutes premeditated statistical murder.
If we had an honest government every one connected with this ILLEGAL cabal would be fired or delicensed and hopefully imprisoned. The results of this single meeting will result IMO in the deaths and mutilation of so many of our children it sickens me.
Alicia
November 30th, 2009 at 1:31 am
It is hard to know what to believe, but here are some things to consider. I am pregnant, and upon my first visit to my midwifery center I was handed a paper urging me to get the H1N1 vaccine, because supposedly pregnant women are at a very high risk of getting the virus. The statistic I was given is that approximately 6% of all H1N1 deaths have been pregnant women. Another statistic I have heard is that less than HALF of 1% of all people who have contracted the actual virus have died or become very seriously ill. This number does not tell us how many of those people were in some way immunocompromised to begin with. Okay, now consider the actual percentage of ALL people, including pregnant women, who have actually CONTRACTED this virus, with or without the vaccine. It’s a small percentage. They’ve predicted that 60% of the US population could become infected, but so far that prediction seems really sketchy, as I can tell you right now fewer than probably 1% of the people I KNOW have been infected: one of the very few people I know who HAS been infected is also pregnant, and she recovered with no complications after only a few days, having never gotten the vaccine (which means she and her child will likely both have immunity to this particular strand of the flu forevermore). Okay, so what all of this tells me is that my chance of getting the swine flu at ALL is fairly slim, and that if I do by some chance get it (even though I’m on pre-natal vitamins which include absurd amounts of Vitamin D and don’t generally spend a lot of time in crowded public places), my chance of actually getting seriously ill or dying from it is still pretty damn slim, even though I am, indeed, a pregnant woman. Remember, the 6% statistic is in relation to how many of the people who have died have been pregnant women, not how many people who’ve contracted the illness have died.
Now, I CANNOT tell you what the risk to me or my baby would be if I got the VACCINE, because NO long term studies have been done on this matter. NO ONE seems to have a solid statistic on how many people have reported ill effects from the vaccine. But history tells us that vaccines don’t have the greatest track record, and the last swine flu vaccine they handed out in the seventies had some very real, very dangerous side effects. So without any solid information on the matter and some sketchy history, I’m going to go with the VERY good odds that in the next five months my child and I will NOT be seriously harmed by H1N1. Because those odds make sense to me. The lack of solid information on the other end doesn’t give me any odds at all.
Steph
December 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 am
Guillan-Barre is known to follow a virus as well as a vaccine. But if you are afraid of side effects from the vaccine, don’t get vaccinated. As a matter of fact, let’s take this a step further.
Encourage everybody to avoid flu vaccines.
Next, encourage everybody to avoid all vaccines.
Next, diseases that have not caused epidemics for decades will reappear. Measles, Mumps, German Measles, Whooping Cough, Diphtheria, Tetanus. We KNOW the side effects of those!
And don’t give me a line of bull that those hawking “natural” treatments are not trying to make a buck. I am not any sort of member of so called “Big Pharm.” As a registered nurse, I fully believe that many medications are over-prescribed. However, in this case I feel this web site is irresponsible to the point of being criminal, trying to convince people that you can avoid these diseases by using herbs and spices.
Sean
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
my mom got the H1n1 shot saturday, and was in bed with a feven saturday night. she has been diagnosed with the virus. this is the second “coincidence” that I know of personally. Why is this not being reported.
Karen
December 4th, 2009 at 4:22 am
I suggest anyone pregnany wondering whether to get the vaccine or not take a look at this: http://organichealthadviser.com/archives/shocking-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-miscarriage-stores-from-pregnant-women-tell-your-doctors-that-vaccines-and-pregnancy-do-not-mix
Women all over the country are miscarrying healthy babies after getting flu vaccines.
While vaccines are useful for some conditions, this is not the case with the flu. And clearly, we need to change the way we do vaccinations in this country, especially where children are concerned.
But no woman should lose her baby because of this
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Re: SWINE FLU H1N1 VACCINE AND PREGNANT WOMEN. PLEASE READ THIS ITS VERY IMPORTANT
H1N1 Vaccine Miscarriages: Exclusive Interview with Connie Adams and More Reports Worldwide
Published December 5, 2009 H1N1/Swine Flu ,
December 6, 2009: About 6 weeks ago, when mass vaccinations were getting underway in North America, I warned pregnant women that the unadjuvanted H1N1 vaccine for pregnant women is not safe. I am very sad to report that pregnant women have been miscarrying after receiving the H1N1 injection.
The press in Europe has reported that nine European women have miscarried after getting the swine flu jab. On November 17, Portuguese news website Diario reported that 2 women in their 30s miscarried soon after being vaccinated. One day later, Portuguese radio station Radiohertz reported that yet another woman had miscarried after having her H1N1 shot. Then a few days later, news website Le Parisien reported that a French lady lost her baby two days after getting her Pandemrix H1N1 jab.
Today Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet reports the 5th miscarriage that has happened in Sweden after a woman has received her H1N1 shot. 28-year-old Zahra was in her final month of pregnancy. She was due on November 24th. Inside her stomach she felt regular, strong kicks. On November 19th she went for her last check at the health centre. Everything looked good and she heard the baby’s heartbeat.
Zahra had previously declined to be vaccinated against swine flu, but was persuaded by her doctor to take the syringe. “Two days later I felt something was wrong in my stomach. The child did not move. He was not breathing.” Three days before scheduled delivery, Zahra gave birth to her dead son. “I just cried and cried. He weighed 4.5 kilograms and had all his fingers, all his toes, all his body parts. But he was not breathing. I think that the vaccine killed my child. Before I got the syringe everything was good. I do not know how to live with this. But I must talk about it so that other women will not be subjected to the same thing. I want them to investigate this and make sure it does not happen again.”
Recently I had the privilege of interviewing 34-year old Connie Adams of Columbus, Ohio, USA. She miscarried soon after getting the H1N1 vaccine and would like other pregnant women to hear her story before making the decision to get vaccinated.
I was 16.5 weeks pregnant. It was my 3rd pregnancy. I have a 17 and 12 year old. In Ohio they are promoting the vaccine for pregnant women. I went for my H1N1 shot on October 22, and I began to feel bad on the 24th and on the 25th I was bent over on the couch. My doctor said it was probably round ligament pain. For the next few days I continued feeling bad and at night I could not sleep. On the 27th my water broke and on the 29th I miscarried. The week before I got the shot, I went for my doctor’s appointment. Everything was fine, no pain or anything. But after I had that shot I felt bad.
Did you ask your doctor if they thought the vaccine caused it?
I asked her if there’s a possibility that the vaccine had something to do with it. She said I can guarantee you on my life that it was not the vaccination. But I never had problems with my other pregnancies. It’s weird.
Have you talked to other women who also miscarried after getting the H1N1 shot?
I’ve had women who have contacted me after I posted my email address on the About.com website who said my friend had that shot and miscarried. They were always 20 something weeks and under, in their 1st and 2nd trimester. I have heard from about 7-8 women.
So you think the vaccine caused the miscarriage?
The baby was growing fine. It was a perfectly healthy pregnancy. My doctor said everything was fine. I was taking vitamins even before I was pregnant. I had the vaccination then everything just went downhill. I feel like something triggered my labour.
Why aren’t these miscarriages being more thoroughly investigated?
They say that more pregnant women are benefiting from the vaccine than miscarrying. That’s how my doctor put it.
And you disagree?
I was injected with the Sanofi H1N1 vaccine. After I miscarried I did some research and found out that it contains fermaldehyde, mercury, etc. You put that into my body and you tell me everything is fine?! I did not know what was in the vaccine. If I would’ve known what was in it I would never have received the shot. Also I found out later that the vaccine manufacturer says that pregnant women should not take the H1N1 shot unless they have to.
This must be so hard for you…
It’s been a month and a half, and it’s still hard for me. Nobody is talking about the side effects or the risks. They are constantly promoting this for pregnant women and we’re their guinea pigs.
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1 Mandy
December 7, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I was 5 weeks pregnant when I got the H1N1 vaccine. I received the shot on a Thursday and was very sore and achy on Friday. I miscarried my baby on Sunday, just 3 days after receiving the shot. This was my first pregnancy and I thought I was doing the best thing for myself and my baby by getting the shot. My doctor didn’t warn me against waiting until I was further along nor was I aware of any warnings by the government. (Columbus, Ohio, USA)
Published December 5, 2009 H1N1/Swine Flu ,
December 6, 2009: About 6 weeks ago, when mass vaccinations were getting underway in North America, I warned pregnant women that the unadjuvanted H1N1 vaccine for pregnant women is not safe. I am very sad to report that pregnant women have been miscarrying after receiving the H1N1 injection.
The press in Europe has reported that nine European women have miscarried after getting the swine flu jab. On November 17, Portuguese news website Diario reported that 2 women in their 30s miscarried soon after being vaccinated. One day later, Portuguese radio station Radiohertz reported that yet another woman had miscarried after having her H1N1 shot. Then a few days later, news website Le Parisien reported that a French lady lost her baby two days after getting her Pandemrix H1N1 jab.
Today Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet reports the 5th miscarriage that has happened in Sweden after a woman has received her H1N1 shot. 28-year-old Zahra was in her final month of pregnancy. She was due on November 24th. Inside her stomach she felt regular, strong kicks. On November 19th she went for her last check at the health centre. Everything looked good and she heard the baby’s heartbeat.
Zahra had previously declined to be vaccinated against swine flu, but was persuaded by her doctor to take the syringe. “Two days later I felt something was wrong in my stomach. The child did not move. He was not breathing.” Three days before scheduled delivery, Zahra gave birth to her dead son. “I just cried and cried. He weighed 4.5 kilograms and had all his fingers, all his toes, all his body parts. But he was not breathing. I think that the vaccine killed my child. Before I got the syringe everything was good. I do not know how to live with this. But I must talk about it so that other women will not be subjected to the same thing. I want them to investigate this and make sure it does not happen again.”
Recently I had the privilege of interviewing 34-year old Connie Adams of Columbus, Ohio, USA. She miscarried soon after getting the H1N1 vaccine and would like other pregnant women to hear her story before making the decision to get vaccinated.
I was 16.5 weeks pregnant. It was my 3rd pregnancy. I have a 17 and 12 year old. In Ohio they are promoting the vaccine for pregnant women. I went for my H1N1 shot on October 22, and I began to feel bad on the 24th and on the 25th I was bent over on the couch. My doctor said it was probably round ligament pain. For the next few days I continued feeling bad and at night I could not sleep. On the 27th my water broke and on the 29th I miscarried. The week before I got the shot, I went for my doctor’s appointment. Everything was fine, no pain or anything. But after I had that shot I felt bad.
Did you ask your doctor if they thought the vaccine caused it?
I asked her if there’s a possibility that the vaccine had something to do with it. She said I can guarantee you on my life that it was not the vaccination. But I never had problems with my other pregnancies. It’s weird.
Have you talked to other women who also miscarried after getting the H1N1 shot?
I’ve had women who have contacted me after I posted my email address on the About.com website who said my friend had that shot and miscarried. They were always 20 something weeks and under, in their 1st and 2nd trimester. I have heard from about 7-8 women.
So you think the vaccine caused the miscarriage?
The baby was growing fine. It was a perfectly healthy pregnancy. My doctor said everything was fine. I was taking vitamins even before I was pregnant. I had the vaccination then everything just went downhill. I feel like something triggered my labour.
Why aren’t these miscarriages being more thoroughly investigated?
They say that more pregnant women are benefiting from the vaccine than miscarrying. That’s how my doctor put it.
And you disagree?
I was injected with the Sanofi H1N1 vaccine. After I miscarried I did some research and found out that it contains fermaldehyde, mercury, etc. You put that into my body and you tell me everything is fine?! I did not know what was in the vaccine. If I would’ve known what was in it I would never have received the shot. Also I found out later that the vaccine manufacturer says that pregnant women should not take the H1N1 shot unless they have to.
This must be so hard for you…
It’s been a month and a half, and it’s still hard for me. Nobody is talking about the side effects or the risks. They are constantly promoting this for pregnant women and we’re their guinea pigs.
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1 Mandy
December 7, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I was 5 weeks pregnant when I got the H1N1 vaccine. I received the shot on a Thursday and was very sore and achy on Friday. I miscarried my baby on Sunday, just 3 days after receiving the shot. This was my first pregnancy and I thought I was doing the best thing for myself and my baby by getting the shot. My doctor didn’t warn me against waiting until I was further along nor was I aware of any warnings by the government. (Columbus, Ohio, USA)
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Swine flu pandemic has peaked, says HSE
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1120/1224259179561.html
The Irish Times - Friday, November 20, 2009
RATES OF swine flu infection in the population have continued to decline over the past week and the current wave of the pandemic in the Republic has probably peaked, health officials confirmed yesterday.
The Department of Health’s chief medical officer, Dr Tony Holohan, said rates of infection in the past week dropped to 134 per 100,000 of the population, down from 174 per 100,000 the previous week. This equates to about 17,000 people being infected during the past week, down from about 27,000 a week earlier.
While rates of infection among children under four and among those aged five to 14 did increase slightly in the past week, infection rates overall came down. An extra 72 people were hospitalised with the virus in the past week, but the rate of increase in hospitalisations and in admissions to intensive care with the virus is also down slightly this week.
Meanwhile, the HSE has confirmed it is investigating “a handful” of complaints in relation to people being charged for the swine flu vaccine by GPs. The vaccine as well as its administration is free for everyone.
More than 100,000 people have now received the swine flu vaccine at HSE clinics and forms returned by GPs show they have vaccinated a further 65,000 people.
However, the HSE said that as returns were slow from GPs, the numbers that had actually been vaccinated by family doctors at this stage was likely to be two to three times this figure.
At least 11,000 pregnant women have also been vaccinated, with numbers surging in the past week following the death of a pregnant woman from swine flu.
A total of 213 adverse reactions to the vaccine have now been reported to the Irish Medicines Board (IMB) and all these were along expected lines.
Dr Joan Gilvarry of the IMB told a press briefing at Government Buildings that about three million people across Europe had now received the swine flu vaccine. Among these were more than 100,000 pregnant women and she revealed there had been a small number of miscarriages and stillbirths reported by pregnant women within days or weeks of getting the vaccine, but in all cases no causal relationship with the vaccine had been established.
None of these miscarriages were reported in Ireland.
She added that statistics indicate there are 40 to 60 stillbirths occurring in Ireland on a monthly basis and some may occur after vaccination in future here, but this does not mean the two events are linked.
Dr Holohan said he was satisfied there was no connection between the miscarriages and the swine flu vaccination.
Dr Darina O’Flanagan, director of the national Health Protection Surveillance Centre, said around 4 per cent of the population had now had swine flu.
She said it looked like this wave of the pandemic had peaked and the more people that were vaccinated, the less likely it was that there will be a second wave of infection here.
Dr Kevin Kelleher, head of health protection with the HSE, said the executive will begin calling those aged over 65 years for vaccination next week.
The vaccination of healthcare workers and children under five has begun and the HSE will go into schools to vaccinate older children later this month.
It will visit larger schools first and in the case of small schools pupils will be asked to attend HSE swine flu vaccination clinics. Information packs are being sent to schools with consent forms for parents.
No further deaths from swine flu were reported in the Republic in the past week but two were reported yesterday in the North.
The Irish Times - Friday, November 20, 2009
RATES OF swine flu infection in the population have continued to decline over the past week and the current wave of the pandemic in the Republic has probably peaked, health officials confirmed yesterday.
The Department of Health’s chief medical officer, Dr Tony Holohan, said rates of infection in the past week dropped to 134 per 100,000 of the population, down from 174 per 100,000 the previous week. This equates to about 17,000 people being infected during the past week, down from about 27,000 a week earlier.
While rates of infection among children under four and among those aged five to 14 did increase slightly in the past week, infection rates overall came down. An extra 72 people were hospitalised with the virus in the past week, but the rate of increase in hospitalisations and in admissions to intensive care with the virus is also down slightly this week.
Meanwhile, the HSE has confirmed it is investigating “a handful” of complaints in relation to people being charged for the swine flu vaccine by GPs. The vaccine as well as its administration is free for everyone.
More than 100,000 people have now received the swine flu vaccine at HSE clinics and forms returned by GPs show they have vaccinated a further 65,000 people.
However, the HSE said that as returns were slow from GPs, the numbers that had actually been vaccinated by family doctors at this stage was likely to be two to three times this figure.
At least 11,000 pregnant women have also been vaccinated, with numbers surging in the past week following the death of a pregnant woman from swine flu.
A total of 213 adverse reactions to the vaccine have now been reported to the Irish Medicines Board (IMB) and all these were along expected lines.
Dr Joan Gilvarry of the IMB told a press briefing at Government Buildings that about three million people across Europe had now received the swine flu vaccine. Among these were more than 100,000 pregnant women and she revealed there had been a small number of miscarriages and stillbirths reported by pregnant women within days or weeks of getting the vaccine, but in all cases no causal relationship with the vaccine had been established.
None of these miscarriages were reported in Ireland.
She added that statistics indicate there are 40 to 60 stillbirths occurring in Ireland on a monthly basis and some may occur after vaccination in future here, but this does not mean the two events are linked.
Dr Holohan said he was satisfied there was no connection between the miscarriages and the swine flu vaccination.
Dr Darina O’Flanagan, director of the national Health Protection Surveillance Centre, said around 4 per cent of the population had now had swine flu.
She said it looked like this wave of the pandemic had peaked and the more people that were vaccinated, the less likely it was that there will be a second wave of infection here.
Dr Kevin Kelleher, head of health protection with the HSE, said the executive will begin calling those aged over 65 years for vaccination next week.
The vaccination of healthcare workers and children under five has begun and the HSE will go into schools to vaccinate older children later this month.
It will visit larger schools first and in the case of small schools pupils will be asked to attend HSE swine flu vaccination clinics. Information packs are being sent to schools with consent forms for parents.
No further deaths from swine flu were reported in the Republic in the past week but two were reported yesterday in the North.
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Antionette, l am so, so sorry. xxxxx
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There are no words my sweetheart. I am truly sorry.xxxxxxx
I will certainly not be having the vaccine at least for now. Its not that I have a confirmed pregnancy, but still, a little late and a little sick is either a virus or a baby. Time will tell.
As I have asthma, I have been offered it. But I may already have the immunity. In the Summer I had an unconfirmed case (it was after they stopped testing everyone that had flu) but my Dr seemed fairly sure this was what I had.
I will certainly not be having the vaccine at least for now. Its not that I have a confirmed pregnancy, but still, a little late and a little sick is either a virus or a baby. Time will tell.
As I have asthma, I have been offered it. But I may already have the immunity. In the Summer I had an unconfirmed case (it was after they stopped testing everyone that had flu) but my Dr seemed fairly sure this was what I had.
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I don't suppose any words of sympathy are adequate, but my thoughts are with you.
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So sorry to her your sad news Antoinette.
Thank you for bringing this information to everyones attention.
Thank you for bringing this information to everyones attention.
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Lizzy11268 wrote:There are no words my sweetheart. I am truly sorry.xxxxxxx
I will certainly not be having the vaccine at least for now. Its not that I have a confirmed pregnancy, but still, a little late and a little sick is either a virus or a baby. Time will tell.
As I have asthma, I have been offered it. But I may already have the immunity. In the Summer I had an unconfirmed case (it was after they stopped testing everyone that had flu) but my Dr seemed fairly sure this was what I had.
Thanks Lizzy. THis is why I posted this up here, because there could be many women that may or are pregnant. If you are pregnant Lizzie congratulations but please please think very hard before getting the vaccine. It could be coincidence that I miscarried but with reading the many stories from women who have miscarried its pointing me in this direction.
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Antionette, I am so very sorry. Yet our Government in in UK is actively encouraging mums to be to have this jab. In fact they are on the list of people who should be given it before the rest of the population. God this is frightening!!!!!!!!!!
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MissGivings wrote:Antionette, I am so very sorry. Yet our Government in in UK is actively encouraging mums to be to have this jab. In fact they are on the list of people who should be given it before the rest of the population. God this is frightening!!!!!!!!!!
Its the same in Ireland. The first words out of my GP's mouth was "we will have to organise your swine flu jab"
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Really sorry to hear that Antoinette :(
I had done some online research on this because I couldn't believe that the govt was urging pregnant women to take this when it hadn't been tested
I also didn't believe all thehype about this flu when so few people actually die from it compared to normal flu - I'm no scientist but something didn't feel right about declaring a world pandemic
anyway I can't begin to imagine how you must feel, please take good care xx
I had done some online research on this because I couldn't believe that the govt was urging pregnant women to take this when it hadn't been tested
I also didn't believe all thehype about this flu when so few people actually die from it compared to normal flu - I'm no scientist but something didn't feel right about declaring a world pandemic
anyway I can't begin to imagine how you must feel, please take good care xx
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amethyst wrote:Really sorry to hear that Antoinette :(
I had done some online research on this because I couldn't believe that the govt was urging pregnant women to take this when it hadn't been tested
I also didn't believe all thehype about this flu when so few people actually die from it compared to normal flu - I'm no scientist but something didn't feel right about declaring a world pandemic
anyway I can't begin to imagine how you must feel, please take good care xx
Thanks Amethyst. If I had have known about this a few weeks ago I wouldnt have got it but I did and the only thing I can do now is highlight it and let others know what my opinion is. I could be wrong on all of this but something is telling me Im not.
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I'm so sorry for your loss Antoinette, and thank you for highlighting this important information xx
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Antoinette I really admire you! As always you think about everyone else even with all the suffering you have gone through this last week!
Hopefully this warning may save a few babies!
Hopefully this warning may save a few babies!
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antoinette, so sorry. Some months back my GP gave me the flu and pnemonia vacine.... he declined to give me the swine flu vacine because he had some doubts about its safety, yet two weeks later he had changed his mind and was pressing me to get it done...i wondered if the government had put pressure on GPs to use up the vacine.
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Ambersuz wrote:Antoinette I really admire you! As always you think about everyone else even with all the suffering you have gone through this last week!
Hopefully this warning may save a few babies!
If my suffering will save even 1 baby it will be worth it. I had to highlight this as I cannot sit here and do nothing. Apart from posting it here I have emailed all politicians in Ireland as well as every maternity hospital and colleges. Hopefully even 1 doctor ( i cant see the politicians listening) looks into this it will be worth the time and energy highlighting it
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Antoinette wrote:amethyst wrote:Really sorry to hear that Antoinette :(
I had done some online research on this because I couldn't believe that the govt was urging pregnant women to take this when it hadn't been tested
I also didn't believe all thehype about this flu when so few people actually die from it compared to normal flu - I'm no scientist but something didn't feel right about declaring a world pandemic
anyway I can't begin to imagine how you must feel, please take good care xx
Thanks Amethyst. If I had have known about this a few weeks ago I wouldnt have got it but I did and the only thing I can do now is highlight it and let others know what my opinion is. I could be wrong on all of this but something is telling me Im not.
Antoinette, I'm sure you're not wrong. I think the biggest problem with Pandemrix is the squalene, which is a precursor to steroids in the body and therefore essential. It's in olive oil and assimilated properly. When injected into deep muscle, the body produces an abnormal immune response and creates anti-bodies to squalene. A large percentage of veterans returning with Gulf War Syndrome were found to have squalene anti-bodies.
The other vaccine that was offered was Celvapan, for people allergic to eggs. Celvapan by Baxters. Celvapan is produced on the kidney cells from African Green Monkeys. These are Vero cells, a cell line that started in the 1960s and is referred to as "immortal," i.e., they are capable of going through many many more replications than the average 17 replications of ordinary cells. There seems to be evidence that vero cells can be infected with Simian virus 40, which has been shown to cause a variety of cancers.
The information wasn't out there for us. We were bombarded with all the hype and scare tactics about swine flu and it's just shocking that pregnant women were offered these vaccines, especially within recent weeks when there has been a lot of info coming out about side effects.
Very sorry to hear about your experience Antoinette and hope you have recovered physically. My very best wishes to you and the family.
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so sorry to hear this,you must be devestated,
i had a misscarriage once and i know how it feels,
but to have one in these circumtances must be dreadfull when it could have been avoided,
thinking of you lea xxx
i had a misscarriage once and i know how it feels,
but to have one in these circumtances must be dreadfull when it could have been avoided,
thinking of you lea xxx
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AnnaEsse wrote:Antoinette wrote:amethyst wrote:Really sorry to hear that Antoinette :(
I had done some online research on this because I couldn't believe that the govt was urging pregnant women to take this when it hadn't been tested
I also didn't believe all thehype about this flu when so few people actually die from it compared to normal flu - I'm no scientist but something didn't feel right about declaring a world pandemic
anyway I can't begin to imagine how you must feel, please take good care xx
Thanks Amethyst. If I had have known about this a few weeks ago I wouldnt have got it but I did and the only thing I can do now is highlight it and let others know what my opinion is. I could be wrong on all of this but something is telling me Im not.
Antoinette, I'm sure you're not wrong. I think the biggest problem with Pandemrix is the squalene, which is a precursor to steroids in the body and therefore essential. It's in olive oil and assimilated properly. When injected into deep muscle, the body produces an abnormal immune response and creates anti-bodies to squalene. A large percentage of veterans returning with Gulf War Syndrome were found to have squalene anti-bodies.
The other vaccine that was offered was Celvapan, for people allergic to eggs. Celvapan by Baxters. Celvapan is produced on the kidney cells from African Green Monkeys. These are Vero cells, a cell line that started in the 1960s and is referred to as "immortal," i.e., they are capable of going through many many more replications than the average 17 replications of ordinary cells. There seems to be evidence that vero cells can be infected with Simian virus 40, which has been shown to cause a variety of cancers.
The information wasn't out there for us. We were bombarded with all the hype and scare tactics about swine flu and it's just shocking that pregnant women were offered these vaccines, especially within recent weeks when there has been a lot of info coming out about side effects.
Very sorry to hear about your experience Antoinette and hope you have recovered physically. My very best wishes to you and the family.
The more i read into this the worse it is getting. I am glad I posted this on here now as I am finding out more info about it, The more I can get the better chance I have of getting SOMEONE to listen. Physically i am fine now but Im angry more than anything else. The day I was told my baby was dead there was 3 other women in the hospital miscarrying also. I obviously didnt say anything to them at the time as they were as upset as I was but I would be curious to find out if these women got the vaccine also
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Antoinette wrote:AnnaEsse wrote:Antoinette wrote:amethyst wrote:Really sorry to hear that Antoinette :(
I had done some online research on this because I couldn't believe that the govt was urging pregnant women to take this when it hadn't been tested
I also didn't believe all thehype about this flu when so few people actually die from it compared to normal flu - I'm no scientist but something didn't feel right about declaring a world pandemic
anyway I can't begin to imagine how you must feel, please take good care xx
Thanks Amethyst. If I had have known about this a few weeks ago I wouldnt have got it but I did and the only thing I can do now is highlight it and let others know what my opinion is. I could be wrong on all of this but something is telling me Im not.
Antoinette, I'm sure you're not wrong. I think the biggest problem with Pandemrix is the squalene, which is a precursor to steroids in the body and therefore essential. It's in olive oil and assimilated properly. When injected into deep muscle, the body produces an abnormal immune response and creates anti-bodies to squalene. A large percentage of veterans returning with Gulf War Syndrome were found to have squalene anti-bodies.
The other vaccine that was offered was Celvapan, for people allergic to eggs. Celvapan by Baxters. Celvapan is produced on the kidney cells from African Green Monkeys. These are Vero cells, a cell line that started in the 1960s and is referred to as "immortal," i.e., they are capable of going through many many more replications than the average 17 replications of ordinary cells. There seems to be evidence that vero cells can be infected with Simian virus 40, which has been shown to cause a variety of cancers.
The information wasn't out there for us. We were bombarded with all the hype and scare tactics about swine flu and it's just shocking that pregnant women were offered these vaccines, especially within recent weeks when there has been a lot of info coming out about side effects.
Very sorry to hear about your experience Antoinette and hope you have recovered physically. My very best wishes to you and the family.
The more i read into this the worse it is getting. I am glad I posted this on here now as I am finding out more info about it, The more I can get the better chance I have of getting SOMEONE to listen. Physically i am fine now but Im angry more than anything else. The day I was told my baby was dead there was 3 other women in the hospital miscarrying also. I obviously didnt say anything to them at the time as they were as upset as I was but I would be curious to find out if these women got the vaccine also
My heart goes out to you, Antoinette. You were doing what you thought was best for your baby and you were misled by medical professionals who should have had the information you needed to make an informed choice. That information was readily available, but doctors were/are still offering it. Perhaps because they are receiving a fixed fee for every vaccine they administer. I feel angry on your behalf. So, I can imagine how you must feel.
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