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So sorry to hear of yourl loss.
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Thanks everyone for your kind messages. I found articles lastnight in PDF form of the stastistics since swine flu was 1st administered. I am going to go through them today and WHEN I do find the truth on them the S**t will hit the fan. I'll post them up here once I upload them to get links for them. The only thing is weeks 8 to 16 are missing so I'll have to go searching to find out WHY they are missing
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pipstar1 wrote:So sorry to read about your sad loss Antoinette. I had also come across this information mostly through Jane Burgermeisters site http://www.theflucase.com and Alex Jones Infowars site. Swine flu vaccine is also harmful for everyone else too, there have been many cases of side effects such as paralysis, guilleim barre syndrome, auto immune disease etc. These vaccines were and are being pushed to the most vulnerable people first, pregnant women, children and the elderly. This is outrageous and I think is set to continue later this year when the unused vaccines will be recycled with the next season's flu jabs. The media has been silent about all this - no investagative reporting, shades of the Mc Cann saga.
does this mean all the different types of flu jabs are bad for you?
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lea wrote:pipstar1 wrote:So sorry to read about your sad loss Antoinette. I had also come across this information mostly through Jane Burgermeisters site http://www.theflucase.com and Alex Jones Infowars site. Swine flu vaccine is also harmful for everyone else too, there have been many cases of side effects such as paralysis, guilleim barre syndrome, auto immune disease etc. These vaccines were and are being pushed to the most vulnerable people first, pregnant women, children and the elderly. This is outrageous and I think is set to continue later this year when the unused vaccines will be recycled with the next season's flu jabs. The media has been silent about all this - no investagative reporting, shades of the Mc Cann saga.
does this mean all the different types of flu jabs are bad for you?
I don't know lea. I'll look through the link and see what it says. I have to point out here though 2 of my kids got the swine flu vaccine and they are perfectly fine. They had no reactions at all.
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Antoinette wrote:lea wrote:pipstar1 wrote:So sorry to read about your sad loss Antoinette. I had also come across this information mostly through Jane Burgermeisters site http://www.theflucase.com and Alex Jones Infowars site. Swine flu vaccine is also harmful for everyone else too, there have been many cases of side effects such as paralysis, guilleim barre syndrome, auto immune disease etc. These vaccines were and are being pushed to the most vulnerable people first, pregnant women, children and the elderly. This is outrageous and I think is set to continue later this year when the unused vaccines will be recycled with the next season's flu jabs. The media has been silent about all this - no investagative reporting, shades of the Mc Cann saga.
does this mean all the different types of flu jabs are bad for you?
I don't know lea. I'll look through the link and see what it says. I have to point out here though 2 of my kids got the swine flu vaccine and they are perfectly fine. They had no reactions at all.
Antoinette,hope your feeling better,
i usually have the flu jab once a year as i have asthma,
im really thinking about not having it next time im due to have it,
i have read some of the articles in the link and am confused.
thanks
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my GP says the ordinary flu vacine has been around for years and we know its safety record, but he has doubts about the swine flu, declined to give it me and then changed his mind? this was after the reports of the government being left with thousands of unused vacine....
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4timesanan wrote:my GP says the ordinary flu vacine has been around for years and we know its safety record, but he has doubts about the swine flu, declined to give it me and then changed his mind? this was after the reports of the government being left with thousands of unused vacine....
do you know if its been tested on animals?
and if there have been trials on these drugs?(the ordinary flu jab)
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lea wrote:4timesanan wrote:my GP says the ordinary flu vacine has been around for years and we know its safety record, but he has doubts about the swine flu, declined to give it me and then changed his mind? this was after the reports of the government being left with thousands of unused vacine....
do you know if its been tested on animals?
and if there have been trials on these drugs?(the ordinary flu jab)
I dont know about the ordinary flu jab. but look what I found on the swine flu 1
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
GSK's Pandemrix Swine Flu Shot Caused Damage to Pregnant Rats
source: theflucase
GlaxoSmithKline’s Pandemrix swine flu jab caused damage to pregnant rats in pretrial studies, but governments are concealing this fact from people.
GlaxoSmithKlein saw increased rates of loss of pregnancies and malformations in offspring of PandemRix “mock-up” vaccinated offspring, but surprisingly documents of EMEA and WHO do not mention these disturbing abnormalities remarks Dr Eric Beeth.
Dr Beeth joined a citizen’s initiative taking the government to court to protect his profession of General Practitioners from unknowingly participating in an illegal experimentation on pregnant women, and practising the experimental vaccination without an informed consent form.
The dangers of this type of government protected experimentation is especially transparent when it comes to pregnant women, where no data, except the NOT very reassuring reproductive toxicity pre-clinical trials on rats existed before the experimental vaccine was tried out on a massive scale on pregnant women: those whom we must protect the most from all types of known and unknown drugs/pharmaceutical products.
Four pregnant women in Belgian are currently engaged in a legal action to obtain NON-EXPERIMENTAL, standard procedure H1N1 flu shots, without adjuvants, and preferably no thiomersal either.
In his article on www.mondialisation.ca , Dr Beeth quotes a paragraph in English from a study showing that offspring from pregnant rats that were given Pandemrix had an increased incidence of foetal malformations: the quote is taken from page 18 of this GSK patient information PDF in Canada:
http://www.gsk.ca/english/docs-pdf/Arepanrix_PIL_CAPA01v01.pdf
In a report in French, Beeth quotes a paragraph from a study showing that rats who were given Pandemrix had an increased incidence of fetal malformations.
There have been no clinical trials on pregnant women.
Pharmaceutical companies such as GSK might be expected to carry out these trials if there is evidence of such fetal malformations in rats. Their failure to do so suggests a deliberate attempt to manipulate clinical trials data to get an dangerous drug through to cause damage to pregnant women.
Four pregnant women in Belgian are planning legal action against the government for recommending the dangerous Pandemrix to pregnant women without adequate data.
This is an extra from the report in French
“Two reproductive studies were conducted with ASO3-adjuvanted H5N1 antigen and evaluated the effect on embryo-fetal and peri-and post-natal development in rats, following intramuscular administration. Although no definite conclusion could be reached, regarding a possible relation to treatment with the H5N1 vaccine and/or the adjuvant ASO3, and other findings were considered normal, the following observations deserve to be mentioned:
In the first study, there was an increased incidence of fetal malformations with markedly medially thickened kinked ribs and bent scapula as well as an increased incidence of dilated ureter and delayed neuro-behavioural maturation.
In the second study, there was an increased incidence of post-implantation loss, and the fetal variation of dilated ureter. Not all findings were observed in both studies, and hence the toxicological significance is uncertain.”
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http://www.ndsc.ie/hpsc/A-Z/EmergencyPlanning/AvianPandemicInfluenza/SwineInfluenza/AdvicefortheGeneralPublic/Pregnancy/File,4054,en.pdf
Q. Is the swine flu vaccine associated with Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS)?
Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) is a rapidly developing muscle weakness which may develop into paralysis. It occurs rarely. About two-thirds of people who develop GBS do so several days or weeks after they have been sick with a diarrhoeal or respiratory illness (including the influenza virus). Most of the people who get GBS recover and are able to return to their normal lives and activities. In about 40% of cases no cause is found.
Because GBS was seen in some people around the time they received the swine flu vaccine in 1976, some people worry that GBS is a potential side effect of the vaccine. During the 1976 influenza campaign in the US, about 10 cases developed GBS for every million persons who were vaccinated. Some studies have suggested that seasonal influenza vaccine could be associated with an increased risk of GBS with one case occurring for every 1 million persons vaccinated. Most recently, there is new evidence which suggests that you are 16 times more likely to get GBS after getting the flu. It also suggests that the influenza vaccine may protect against GBS.
For people who have never had GBS, the benefits of influenza vaccination greatly outweigh any possibility of getting GBS after the vaccine.
Q. Will the seasonal flu vaccine also protect against the swine flu?
The seasonal flu vaccine is not expected to protect against the swine flu. Similarly, the swine flu vaccine will not protect against seasonal influenza.
Q. Is the swine flu vaccine associated with Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS)?
Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS) is a rapidly developing muscle weakness which may develop into paralysis. It occurs rarely. About two-thirds of people who develop GBS do so several days or weeks after they have been sick with a diarrhoeal or respiratory illness (including the influenza virus). Most of the people who get GBS recover and are able to return to their normal lives and activities. In about 40% of cases no cause is found.
Because GBS was seen in some people around the time they received the swine flu vaccine in 1976, some people worry that GBS is a potential side effect of the vaccine. During the 1976 influenza campaign in the US, about 10 cases developed GBS for every million persons who were vaccinated. Some studies have suggested that seasonal influenza vaccine could be associated with an increased risk of GBS with one case occurring for every 1 million persons vaccinated. Most recently, there is new evidence which suggests that you are 16 times more likely to get GBS after getting the flu. It also suggests that the influenza vaccine may protect against GBS.
For people who have never had GBS, the benefits of influenza vaccination greatly outweigh any possibility of getting GBS after the vaccine.
Q. Will the seasonal flu vaccine also protect against the swine flu?
The seasonal flu vaccine is not expected to protect against the swine flu. Similarly, the swine flu vaccine will not protect against seasonal influenza.
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I posted rather late last night and then had to go to bed!!!! Lea asked if the seasonal flu vaccine is ok, I do not have a definitive answer - I and my family avoid it, having read adverse reports - cant remember precisely where though, maybe Mercola, Jane Burgermeister, What Doctors Dont Tell You. I hav'nt really got time to research this at the moment (son with Aspergers and 2 very elderly old ladies to watch over 91 and 86 My Mum and mother in law!).
To Lea, I found this on Jane Burgermeister http://www.theflucase.com/
LONDON — The World Health Organization is recommending that swine flu be added to the regular flu vaccine next season.
WHO said in a statement Thursday that it held a meeting this week to decide which flu strains should be recommended to drug makers for their vaccines during the northern hemisphere's next flu season, which begins in the fall.
Flu vaccines have three virus strains — which experts decide on after estimating which strains made the most people sick last season.
Last year, the swine flu pandemic virus, or H1N1, emerged too late to be added to the regular flu vaccine and a new vaccine was needed.
I have also declined the HPV vaccine for my 14 year old daughter, I have read about serious side effects from this reported in America including: paralysis, seizures etc and even deaths.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/gardasil
http://www.judicialwatch.org/files/documents/2009/vaersdeathsALL_20090616.pdf
I am not prepared to let my family act as guinea pigs for Pharmaceutical companies to make vast profits, and undertake nefarious third partly aims. Thank goodness vaccinations are not yet compulsory.
Antoinette, I am thinking about you, so sorry.
To Lea, I found this on Jane Burgermeister http://www.theflucase.com/
LONDON — The World Health Organization is recommending that swine flu be added to the regular flu vaccine next season.
WHO said in a statement Thursday that it held a meeting this week to decide which flu strains should be recommended to drug makers for their vaccines during the northern hemisphere's next flu season, which begins in the fall.
Flu vaccines have three virus strains — which experts decide on after estimating which strains made the most people sick last season.
Last year, the swine flu pandemic virus, or H1N1, emerged too late to be added to the regular flu vaccine and a new vaccine was needed.
I have also declined the HPV vaccine for my 14 year old daughter, I have read about serious side effects from this reported in America including: paralysis, seizures etc and even deaths.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/gardasil
http://www.judicialwatch.org/files/documents/2009/vaersdeathsALL_20090616.pdf
I am not prepared to let my family act as guinea pigs for Pharmaceutical companies to make vast profits, and undertake nefarious third partly aims. Thank goodness vaccinations are not yet compulsory.
Antoinette, I am thinking about you, so sorry.
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Antoinette, words wont be much of a help but I'm so sorry.
Reading through this, it looks like the vaccine has never been tested on pregnant women, this is just disgusting. Why on earth aren't GP's telling people this, so we can make an informed decision on whether to have it or not.
Thank you for highlighting it, and i know if anyone will keep shouting till she gets answers its you If you need any help with anything just let me know.
Reading through this, it looks like the vaccine has never been tested on pregnant women, this is just disgusting. Why on earth aren't GP's telling people this, so we can make an informed decision on whether to have it or not.
Thank you for highlighting it, and i know if anyone will keep shouting till she gets answers its you If you need any help with anything just let me know.
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Im very sorry to hear of your sad news.
I have always been deeply concerned about the swine flu jab. I work in the health service and its really been pushed for us to have the jab. I haven't. I didn't let my daughter have it either (age 2). I'm not normally against vaccines my children have had MMR etc but I just don't trust this one.
I have always been deeply concerned about the swine flu jab. I work in the health service and its really been pushed for us to have the jab. I haven't. I didn't let my daughter have it either (age 2). I'm not normally against vaccines my children have had MMR etc but I just don't trust this one.
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I am so sorry to hear about your loss of your baby Antoinette
My family are all grown now, I don't think they have tested that flue jab probably, I am a pensioner now and there is know way I would have the flue Jab my heart goes out to you
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Antoinette, I feel very sorry for you. If you don't mind I will send your information to my children which are (3 of them)working as medical specialists in hospitals in Holland.
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I have had the Ordinary flu Vaccine for a couple of years now, It is the swine flu Vaccine that is the problem, my self I would not have the swine flu vaccine I don't think it has been tested long enough I don't fancie taking it at all
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Hello Antoinette, I know my words are totally inadequate after what you have been through but my heart goes out to you *hug*xxx
I went to the Doctor this morning for some blood tests and the little nurse there is 8-9 weeks pregnant. I showed her the information you posted on here via her computer. She was due to have a vaccine soon as she works at the Doctor's surgery. She didn't really want the jab anyway, but the Doctor has been quite insistent she said. Now she has saved and printed your information and will show it to the Doctor if she insists again, as she definitely refuses to have the jab now. I won't be very popular when I next go to the Doctors, but if one small life has been saved it is well worth it. Look after yourself and I am so very sorry to hear of your sad news.
With love&best wishes Rose xxx
I went to the Doctor this morning for some blood tests and the little nurse there is 8-9 weeks pregnant. I showed her the information you posted on here via her computer. She was due to have a vaccine soon as she works at the Doctor's surgery. She didn't really want the jab anyway, but the Doctor has been quite insistent she said. Now she has saved and printed your information and will show it to the Doctor if she insists again, as she definitely refuses to have the jab now. I won't be very popular when I next go to the Doctors, but if one small life has been saved it is well worth it. Look after yourself and I am so very sorry to hear of your sad news.
With love&best wishes Rose xxx
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Rose, you've given the nurse at your surgery information so she can make an informed choice on whether to have the jab or not. That's all everybody asks for, its disgracefull the way people are being treated over this, it really is.
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MoondampRoses wrote:Hello Antoinette, I know my words are totally inadequate after what you have been through but my heart goes out to you *hug*xxx
I went to the Doctor this morning for some blood tests and the little nurse there is 8-9 weeks pregnant. I showed her the information you posted on here via her computer. She was due to have a vaccine soon as she works at the Doctor's surgery. She didn't really want the jab anyway, but the Doctor has been quite insistent she said. Now she has saved and printed your information and will show it to the Doctor if she insists again, as she definitely refuses to have the jab now. I won't be very popular when I next go to the Doctors, but if one small life has been saved it is well worth it. Look after yourself and I am so very sorry to hear of your sad news.
With love&best wishes Rose xxx
thank you Rose. I hope more people pay heed to these threads. As I said at the start of this thread I am not telling people not to get it. I'm giving them the information that is readily available on the net and letting them make their own minds up. The Governments arnt doing it so I will. I may have lost my baby but my loss is only 1 baby. How many other people all over the world have had miscarraiges following receiving the vaccine and havnt put 2&2 together. It's for these people and any other pregnant women that I am doing this for. It's too late for me but not for everyone else. All women should be given the choice and the right information before hand. They shouldn't have to go searching for this information. I have a HUGE database of email addresses that I have gathered for Amy and I will be emailing all these people to let them know of the dangers. Hopefully they will in turn pass it onto their contacts and so on. Eventually someone will listen and until they do I'll keep emailing, ringing and talking.
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Dr Sherri Tenpenny.
There used to be 4 videos on YouTube of Dr Tenpenny giving a lecture on the polio vaccine. They are no longer available because of some copyright issue. This lecture was a real eye-opener. Apparently, by the time the polio vaccine was introduced, there were virtually no new cases of paralytic polio in the US. After the introduction of the vaccine, most of the new cases were caused by the vaccine because vaccines were found to contain not attenuated live virus, but live virus. There were two companies manufacturing the vaccine and both released the problem vaccines, but only one was the subject of class action in what became known as "The Cutter Incident."
After the introduction of the vaccine, statistics appeared to show a dramatic fall in the number of cases. What actually happened was the change in reporting. Many people would contract the virus, go to a doctor, describe symptoms and be classed as a case of polio, but most recovered within a few weeks. After the introduction of the vaccine, the period between seeing a doctor and reporting a case was lengthened greatly. So, fewer cases!
Dr Sherri Tenpenny on vaccines.
http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx
There used to be 4 videos on YouTube of Dr Tenpenny giving a lecture on the polio vaccine. They are no longer available because of some copyright issue. This lecture was a real eye-opener. Apparently, by the time the polio vaccine was introduced, there were virtually no new cases of paralytic polio in the US. After the introduction of the vaccine, most of the new cases were caused by the vaccine because vaccines were found to contain not attenuated live virus, but live virus. There were two companies manufacturing the vaccine and both released the problem vaccines, but only one was the subject of class action in what became known as "The Cutter Incident."
After the introduction of the vaccine, statistics appeared to show a dramatic fall in the number of cases. What actually happened was the change in reporting. Many people would contract the virus, go to a doctor, describe symptoms and be classed as a case of polio, but most recovered within a few weeks. After the introduction of the vaccine, the period between seeing a doctor and reporting a case was lengthened greatly. So, fewer cases!
Dr Sherri Tenpenny on vaccines.
http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx
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Annabel wrote: Antoinette, I feel very sorry for you. If you don't mind I will send your information to my children which are (3 of them)working as medical specialists in hospitals in Holland.
Annabel please do pass it on. I'm in the process of doing up a letter with all the information I can find on this. As soon as I have it finished I will post it here & if I can ask everyone to pass it onto even your own friends & family I would appreciate it.
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Will do, with pleasure, Antoinette.
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Harvesmom wrote:Antoinette, words wont be much of a help but I'm so sorry.
Reading through this, it looks like the vaccine has never been tested on pregnant women, this is just disgusting. Why on earth aren't GP's telling people this, so we can make an informed decision on whether to have it or not.
Thank you for highlighting it, and i know if anyone will keep shouting till she gets answers its you If you need any help with anything just let me know.
Thank you I will be looking for help once I finish the letter I'm doing up. I just have to make sure I have it 100% before I send it anywhere.
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pipstar1 wrote:I posted rather late last night and then had to go to bed!!!! Lea asked if the seasonal flu vaccine is ok, I do not have a definitive answer - I and my family avoid it, having read adverse reports - cant remember precisely where though, maybe Mercola, Jane Burgermeister, What Doctors Dont Tell You. I hav'nt really got time to research this at the moment (son with Aspergers and 2 very elderly old ladies to watch over 91 and 86 My Mum and mother in law!).
To Lea, I found this on Jane Burgermeister http://www.theflucase.com/
LONDON — The World Health Organization is recommending that swine flu be added to the regular flu vaccine next season.
WHO said in a statement Thursday that it held a meeting this week to decide which flu strains should be recommended to drug makers for their vaccines during the northern hemisphere's next flu season, which begins in the fall.
Flu vaccines have three virus strains — which experts decide on after estimating which strains made the most people sick last season.
Last year, the swine flu pandemic virus, or H1N1, emerged too late to be added to the regular flu vaccine and a new vaccine was needed.
I have also declined the HPV vaccine for my 14 year old daughter, I have read about serious side effects from this reported in America including: paralysis, seizures etc and even deaths.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/gardasil
http://www.judicialwatch.org/files/documents/2009/vaersdeathsALL_20090616.pdf
I am not prepared to let my family act as guinea pigs for Pharmaceutical companies to make vast profits, and undertake nefarious third partly aims. Thank goodness vaccinations are not yet compulsory.
Antoinette, I am thinking about you, so sorry.
pipstar,thanks for reply,dont think i will be having any more flu jabs especially as they will be adding swine flu to the flu jab,thanks for this information,
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Shocking H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Miscarriage Stories From Pregnant Women – Tell Your Doctors That Vaccines And Pregnancy Do Not Mix!
http://organichealthadviser.com/archives/shocking-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-miscarriage-stores-from-pregnant-women-tell-your-doctors-that-vaccines-and-pregnancy-do-not-mix
U.S. health authorities have made pregnant women one of the highest priority groups for getting the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, but is it actually safe for pregnant women and their babies? Well, the truth is that miscarriage reports from pregnant women who have taken the H1N1 swine flu vaccine are starting to pour in from all over the nation. Vaccines and pregnancy simply do not mix safely. In fact, the package inserts for the swine flu vaccines actually say that the safety of these vaccines for pregnant women has not been established.
What you are about to read below should shock and anger you. If they are telling us that the swine flu vaccine is not safe for children under 6 months of age, then why in the world would it be safe for pregnant women and their babies? That doesn't make an ounce of sense, does it?
The following H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories are from a June 2010 birth club.....http://community.babycenter.com/post/a17775995/miscarriage_after_h1n1_vaccine?cpg=1&csi=2078905335&pd=-3
EBWashington:
I am so upset. I was so excited to be pregnant after trying for a year. As soon as I found out I was pregnant, I joined this birth club and I was due June 25th. We have two healthy boys with no history of miscarriage. Everything was going great. Last Monday, I got the H1N1 vaccine thimerosal reduced (mercury reduced for pregnant women). On Tuesday morning, I started cramping and on Wednesday I started bleeding heavily. My hcg was 50 on Wednesday and I was almost 6 weeks along so it was low. They still thought that I might be pregnant but on Friday my hcg was down to 22. I am an emotional wreck. I feel like I had a healthy baby and I caused this by getting the H1N1 vaccine. My doctors pushed it. I researched online and there have been many miscarriages after the H1N1 vaccine but they haven't been reported since it is hard to say what caused the miscarriages. I hope that I did not cause this. I wish everyone the best.
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I don't have an answer for you, but a friend of a friend just had a miscarriage 2-3 days after getting the shot. She was 7weeks. She had no previous history of m/c... No one can answer if they're related...it hasn't been out long enough and there haven't been any studies done on pregnant women. I will tell you, that it has made up my mind on getting it...I won't and I'm not going to get it for my DD either. My daughter and I both had H1N1 last week, and although it truly sucks...I think I'll take my chances. One doctor will tell you to get it and the next will tell you not too...you have to do what's in your heart.
90707
my heart goes out to you as i recently miscarried as well and was due in june. i had a healthy heart beat at 6wks. then at 7.5 wks my son got the h1n1 mist vaccine which has live vaccine in it. the nurse said to be careful b/c it could technically spread if he rubbed his nose and touched a surface etc. the next night i miscarried and 5 days later was diagnosed with h1n1. i work from home, kids are home, hadnt been anywhere during that time. so the chances that it is all related are very high. the flu mist vaccine warns for immunocompromised patients (which includes prego) to stay away from recipients of the flu mist for 21 days.
This next set of H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories is from an About.com page about miscarriage.....
Jo:
I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the H1N1.
Regrets:
I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!
:
i work in a hospital like setting and was told ‘the benefits outweigh the risks” 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide
sue:
I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a miscarriage.
Linda Hill:
My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried.
SoSorry:
I was so ready to get the H1N1 vaccine last week and they were only giving them to pregnant women. I was 6 weeks along and got it and the next day I started cramping and miscarried. I already had two healthy pregnancies and never miscarried or had any problems. My doctors think I am crazy to think it was the H1N1 but if no one looks into this than other women will not know. I am so sorry that I got it.
Connie:
I also received the H1N1 vaccination on October 22nd, 2009 and went into labor on October 25th, at 16 weeks pregnant and we just heard the heartbeat and everything was fine with my pregnancy on October 16th, 2009, then on October 28th my water broke then on October 29th, I delivered a stillborn baby boy, and no one can tell me why…Everyone wants to say it did not come from the shot but I believe it did. My baby was growing at the correct pace and everyone wants to brush off the vaccination. I say if you have the vaccination and suffer a miscarriage if they are able to perform an autopsy have it done.
I also agree something needs to be done and looked more into with this vaccination because most women are being advised it’s just something that happens, but I also had two healthy children normal pregnancies and when I received this vaccination with my third pregnancy, my baby is gone.
sioux falls, south dakota:
I received the H1N1 vaccine on October 16th and started experiencing cramping on the 22nd. I was nearly 17 weeks pregnant and gave birth to a stillborn baby boy on the 23rd. Like many of the other women here, the first thing I suspected was the H1N1 vaccine. I immediately asked a nurse at the hospital if that would have anything to do with it. Without hesitation, she told me “absolutely not.” I had reservations about getting the vaccine, but followed the advice of my long trusted family doctor. In a follow up appointment with my doctor 3 days after I lost my baby, I asked him if the vaccine would have had any adverse effects on my baby. He also said that it was not possible. I don’t believe that my doctor was necessarily lying to me, he was simply following the accepted practices and opinions of his field. I do, however, believe that as a nation, we are being lied to. This vaccine is NOT safe during pregnancy. There has not been enough testing done to determine this and there are far too many “coincidences” for this to be anything but a result of a vaccine that was hastily pushed into production and distribution in an effort to stop widespread panic. I have read so many stories in defense of the vaccine that will talk about how common miscarriages are, but I would challenge you to ask ANY health care professional how common second trimester miscarriages are. My baby was doing perfect developmentally and I had felt him move earlier that day. My heart goes out to all of you out there who have had to go through the same heartache and loss that I have had in the last couple of weeks. There is no reason that any woman or family should have to go through this. Get the word out to all of the pregnant women that you know. I know that if I had heard that women had been losing their babies shortly after they received the vaccine, I would have followed my gut and not gotten it myself. Maybe then Wyatt would have had a chance at life.
Marina Rossi:
I recently got the H1N1 vaccine and miscarried 3 days later. I thought it could have been the vaccine but didnt ask. After finding this site I believe it was the vaccine. Sorry to everyone else out there who has just experienced a miscarriage.
kathy-sd:
I’m from a town of 2000 in SD, there are several women pregnant and we are all due within a few weeks of each other. Four of us got the H1N1 vaccine 2 weeks ago and one by one each of us started to have preterm contractions. We are all due in Nov and Dec so we are further along than most of the people that lost their babies. There is no way you can tell us that our preterm labor was not caused by the H1N1 vaccine. It may look like a “fluke” to some people when these women are scattered all over the country but we are talking about 4 of us in our small community. My heart goes out to all of you that lost your babies.
ashley:
Im not sure but not only myself, i know someone that withing 4 days of getting the shot we both miscarried, i was only 6 weeks and she was 4 months along, not sure if the shot caused it and cant find any other information but i am a little concerned about this coincidence.
Time Machine:
I got a flu shot in pregnancy, developed incredibly strange symptoms immediately (numb hands, feet and mouth, heart palpitations, sudden weakness in my legs, a bright red face), began bleeding and miscarried by 11 weeks. I had no idea there was mercury in most flu shots but once I found out after the fact, I was assured that I’d had the “mercury free” form. As it turned out, the shot wasn’t completely mercury free and, according to the EPA website, it still had 5,000 times the limit for mercury in drinking water– not to mention a list of other toxins (MSG, formaldehyde, etc.).
I’d had no idea the shots were so dirty. I guess I’d been under the impression they were something like sterile water and a dead virus, that’s it.
The strange symptoms– which I’d been told were “just pregnancy” lasted six months. No one could figure out what was wrong with me, why I couldn’t make stairs, why I felt like I’d been shot with novocaine. I learned later from a book by Jane Hightower that these were all symptoms of mercury exposure. I guess I’m one of those susceptible people. No one in my family is getting the H1N1– no one even gets regular flu shots anymore, we all read labels.
If you are a pregnant mother, please do not take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. Instead, do everything that you can do to avoid public places and make sure to wash your hands more than you usually would. Take extra large doses of immunity building vitamins and research many of the great natural ways for fighting the flu that are out there on the Internet.
The truth is that if you do take the vaccine and then something happens, you will NOT be able to sue anyone (thanks to Congress). You will have to bear all the responsibility yourself. That doctor who kept pushing and pushing it on you will tell you that it could not have been the vaccine and that you probably would have miscarried anyway.
Do you honestly want to inject a vaccine that may contain mercury, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (associated with infertility), triton X100 (a strong detergent), phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) and a whole bunch of other toxic ingredients into your system when you know that your baby will absorb it too and has no defenses against most of these things?
In the very short video posted below, you will see one health expert explain to Sean Hannity that not even the swine flu vaccine package insert says that it is safe for pregnant women.....
U.S. health authorities have made pregnant women one of the highest priority groups for getting the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, but is it actually safe for pregnant women and their babies? Well, the truth is that miscarriage reports from pregnant women who have taken the H1N1 swine flu vaccine are starting to pour in from all over the nation. Vaccines and pregnancy simply do not mix safely. In fact, the package inserts for the swine flu vaccines actually say that the safety of these vaccines for pregnant women has not been established.
What you are about to read below should shock and anger you. If they are telling us that the swine flu vaccine is not safe for children under 6 months of age, then why in the world would it be safe for pregnant women and their babies? That doesn't make an ounce of sense, does it?
The following H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories are from a June 2010 birth club.....http://community.babycenter.com/post/a17775995/miscarriage_after_h1n1_vaccine?cpg=1&csi=2078905335&pd=-3
EBWashington:
I am so upset. I was so excited to be pregnant after trying for a year. As soon as I found out I was pregnant, I joined this birth club and I was due June 25th. We have two healthy boys with no history of miscarriage. Everything was going great. Last Monday, I got the H1N1 vaccine thimerosal reduced (mercury reduced for pregnant women). On Tuesday morning, I started cramping and on Wednesday I started bleeding heavily. My hcg was 50 on Wednesday and I was almost 6 weeks along so it was low. They still thought that I might be pregnant but on Friday my hcg was down to 22. I am an emotional wreck. I feel like I had a healthy baby and I caused this by getting the H1N1 vaccine. My doctors pushed it. I researched online and there have been many miscarriages after the H1N1 vaccine but they haven't been reported since it is hard to say what caused the miscarriages. I hope that I did not cause this. I wish everyone the best.
Tayla08
I don't have an answer for you, but a friend of a friend just had a miscarriage 2-3 days after getting the shot. She was 7weeks. She had no previous history of m/c... No one can answer if they're related...it hasn't been out long enough and there haven't been any studies done on pregnant women. I will tell you, that it has made up my mind on getting it...I won't and I'm not going to get it for my DD either. My daughter and I both had H1N1 last week, and although it truly sucks...I think I'll take my chances. One doctor will tell you to get it and the next will tell you not too...you have to do what's in your heart.
90707
my heart goes out to you as i recently miscarried as well and was due in june. i had a healthy heart beat at 6wks. then at 7.5 wks my son got the h1n1 mist vaccine which has live vaccine in it. the nurse said to be careful b/c it could technically spread if he rubbed his nose and touched a surface etc. the next night i miscarried and 5 days later was diagnosed with h1n1. i work from home, kids are home, hadnt been anywhere during that time. so the chances that it is all related are very high. the flu mist vaccine warns for immunocompromised patients (which includes prego) to stay away from recipients of the flu mist for 21 days.
This next set of H1N1 swine flu vaccine miscarriage horror stories is from an About.com page about miscarriage.....
Jo:
I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the H1N1.
Regrets:
I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!
:
i work in a hospital like setting and was told ‘the benefits outweigh the risks” 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide
sue:
I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a miscarriage.
Linda Hill:
My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried.
SoSorry:
I was so ready to get the H1N1 vaccine last week and they were only giving them to pregnant women. I was 6 weeks along and got it and the next day I started cramping and miscarried. I already had two healthy pregnancies and never miscarried or had any problems. My doctors think I am crazy to think it was the H1N1 but if no one looks into this than other women will not know. I am so sorry that I got it.
Connie:
I also received the H1N1 vaccination on October 22nd, 2009 and went into labor on October 25th, at 16 weeks pregnant and we just heard the heartbeat and everything was fine with my pregnancy on October 16th, 2009, then on October 28th my water broke then on October 29th, I delivered a stillborn baby boy, and no one can tell me why…Everyone wants to say it did not come from the shot but I believe it did. My baby was growing at the correct pace and everyone wants to brush off the vaccination. I say if you have the vaccination and suffer a miscarriage if they are able to perform an autopsy have it done.
I also agree something needs to be done and looked more into with this vaccination because most women are being advised it’s just something that happens, but I also had two healthy children normal pregnancies and when I received this vaccination with my third pregnancy, my baby is gone.
sioux falls, south dakota:
I received the H1N1 vaccine on October 16th and started experiencing cramping on the 22nd. I was nearly 17 weeks pregnant and gave birth to a stillborn baby boy on the 23rd. Like many of the other women here, the first thing I suspected was the H1N1 vaccine. I immediately asked a nurse at the hospital if that would have anything to do with it. Without hesitation, she told me “absolutely not.” I had reservations about getting the vaccine, but followed the advice of my long trusted family doctor. In a follow up appointment with my doctor 3 days after I lost my baby, I asked him if the vaccine would have had any adverse effects on my baby. He also said that it was not possible. I don’t believe that my doctor was necessarily lying to me, he was simply following the accepted practices and opinions of his field. I do, however, believe that as a nation, we are being lied to. This vaccine is NOT safe during pregnancy. There has not been enough testing done to determine this and there are far too many “coincidences” for this to be anything but a result of a vaccine that was hastily pushed into production and distribution in an effort to stop widespread panic. I have read so many stories in defense of the vaccine that will talk about how common miscarriages are, but I would challenge you to ask ANY health care professional how common second trimester miscarriages are. My baby was doing perfect developmentally and I had felt him move earlier that day. My heart goes out to all of you out there who have had to go through the same heartache and loss that I have had in the last couple of weeks. There is no reason that any woman or family should have to go through this. Get the word out to all of the pregnant women that you know. I know that if I had heard that women had been losing their babies shortly after they received the vaccine, I would have followed my gut and not gotten it myself. Maybe then Wyatt would have had a chance at life.
Marina Rossi:
I recently got the H1N1 vaccine and miscarried 3 days later. I thought it could have been the vaccine but didnt ask. After finding this site I believe it was the vaccine. Sorry to everyone else out there who has just experienced a miscarriage.
kathy-sd:
I’m from a town of 2000 in SD, there are several women pregnant and we are all due within a few weeks of each other. Four of us got the H1N1 vaccine 2 weeks ago and one by one each of us started to have preterm contractions. We are all due in Nov and Dec so we are further along than most of the people that lost their babies. There is no way you can tell us that our preterm labor was not caused by the H1N1 vaccine. It may look like a “fluke” to some people when these women are scattered all over the country but we are talking about 4 of us in our small community. My heart goes out to all of you that lost your babies.
ashley:
Im not sure but not only myself, i know someone that withing 4 days of getting the shot we both miscarried, i was only 6 weeks and she was 4 months along, not sure if the shot caused it and cant find any other information but i am a little concerned about this coincidence.
Time Machine:
I got a flu shot in pregnancy, developed incredibly strange symptoms immediately (numb hands, feet and mouth, heart palpitations, sudden weakness in my legs, a bright red face), began bleeding and miscarried by 11 weeks. I had no idea there was mercury in most flu shots but once I found out after the fact, I was assured that I’d had the “mercury free” form. As it turned out, the shot wasn’t completely mercury free and, according to the EPA website, it still had 5,000 times the limit for mercury in drinking water– not to mention a list of other toxins (MSG, formaldehyde, etc.).
I’d had no idea the shots were so dirty. I guess I’d been under the impression they were something like sterile water and a dead virus, that’s it.
The strange symptoms– which I’d been told were “just pregnancy” lasted six months. No one could figure out what was wrong with me, why I couldn’t make stairs, why I felt like I’d been shot with novocaine. I learned later from a book by Jane Hightower that these were all symptoms of mercury exposure. I guess I’m one of those susceptible people. No one in my family is getting the H1N1– no one even gets regular flu shots anymore, we all read labels.
If you are a pregnant mother, please do not take the H1N1 swine flu vaccine. Instead, do everything that you can do to avoid public places and make sure to wash your hands more than you usually would. Take extra large doses of immunity building vitamins and research many of the great natural ways for fighting the flu that are out there on the Internet.
The truth is that if you do take the vaccine and then something happens, you will NOT be able to sue anyone (thanks to Congress). You will have to bear all the responsibility yourself. That doctor who kept pushing and pushing it on you will tell you that it could not have been the vaccine and that you probably would have miscarried anyway.
Do you honestly want to inject a vaccine that may contain mercury, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (associated with infertility), triton X100 (a strong detergent), phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) and a whole bunch of other toxic ingredients into your system when you know that your baby will absorb it too and has no defenses against most of these things?
In the very short video posted below, you will see one health expert explain to Sean Hannity that not even the swine flu vaccine package insert says that it is safe for pregnant women.....
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