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Re: Paulette Gebara Farah
dazedandconfused wrote:Thanks for letting us know Claudia.
You're very welcome.
In one of those links they mentioned similarities to Madeleine's case.
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If only our media would do the same. It's never going to happen though.
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dazedandconfused wrote:If only our media would do the same. It's never going to happen though.
They were reporting that in Mexico and Spain they were comparing the two cases. I also read somewhere that Paulette was being called the Mexican Madeleiene which I found revolting. It's like not even after going missing and then being found dead, Paulette was important enough to be just herself.
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Laffin Assasin wrote:dazedandconfused wrote:If only our media would do the same. It's never going to happen though.
BBC MUNDO website mentions it in Spanish, but they daren't put it up in English, the similarities to McCann case, I mean.
Of course.
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Claudia79 wrote:Laffin Assasin wrote:dazedandconfused wrote:If only our media would do the same. It's never going to happen though.
BBC MUNDO website mentions it in Spanish, but they daren't put it up in English, the similarities to McCann case, I mean.
Of course.
Which makes you think conspiracy theories and D-Notices. What exactly are our news channels afraid of?
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The Spanish Paper "El País" also has the news:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/madre/Paulette/principal/sospechosa/muerte/nina/mexicana/elpepuintlat/20100401elpepuint_1/Tes
In one of the paragraphs, we can read:
"Las extrañas circunstancias de su caso recordaban la historia de Madeleine McCann, la niña británica que desapareció en Portugal en mayo de 2007. Pero a diferencia de McCann, que continúa desaparecida, Paulette fue hallada ayer en el sitio menos esperado. En su casa. En su habitación. Oculta en un hueco de su cama. Muerta."
A quick translation:
"The strange circumstances from her case, were reminding the story of Madeleine McCann, the british child that went missing in Portugal, in May 2007. However the difference from the McCann, that is still missing, Paulette was found in the place nobody expected. In her house, in her room. Hidden in an empty space of her bed. Dead."
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/madre/Paulette/principal/sospechosa/muerte/nina/mexicana/elpepuintlat/20100401elpepuint_1/Tes
In one of the paragraphs, we can read:
"Las extrañas circunstancias de su caso recordaban la historia de Madeleine McCann, la niña británica que desapareció en Portugal en mayo de 2007. Pero a diferencia de McCann, que continúa desaparecida, Paulette fue hallada ayer en el sitio menos esperado. En su casa. En su habitación. Oculta en un hueco de su cama. Muerta."
A quick translation:
"The strange circumstances from her case, were reminding the story of Madeleine McCann, the british child that went missing in Portugal, in May 2007. However the difference from the McCann, that is still missing, Paulette was found in the place nobody expected. In her house, in her room. Hidden in an empty space of her bed. Dead."
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Re: Paulette Gebara Farah
I imagine the CCTV cameras made moving this poor girl's body difficult.
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Here we go again! So predictable isn't it?
Paulette's mother is said not guilty: lawyer
Alejandro Varela, who will defend Lisette Farah, said his client was not involved in the events that caused the death of her youngest, also said she does not have personality disorders
03 abril de 2010
Lisette Farah claims to have no participation in the events that killed her 4 year old daughter, Paulette Farah Gebara, her lawyer, Alejandro Varelabeing, said minutes after meeting with his client.
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/670389.html
Paulette's mother is said not guilty: lawyer
Alejandro Varela, who will defend Lisette Farah, said his client was not involved in the events that caused the death of her youngest, also said she does not have personality disorders
03 abril de 2010
Lisette Farah claims to have no participation in the events that killed her 4 year old daughter, Paulette Farah Gebara, her lawyer, Alejandro Varelabeing, said minutes after meeting with his client.
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/670389.html
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Mexican mom denies role in her 4-year-old's death
(AP) – 57 minutes ago
MEXICO CITY — A defense attorney says a Mexican woman suspected in the death of her 4-year-old daughter denies involvement.
The case of Paulette Gebara Farah has riveted Mexico because of the nationwide campaign her parents launched to find her.
The girl was reported missing March 22 and her body was found more than a week later in her home, wedged between the mattress and the frame of her own bed.
Mother Lisette Farah is being held as suspect.
Mexican newspapers quote her lawyer, Alejandro Varela, as saying Farah "has no idea who could have committed this atrocity." Newspapers say Varela spoke to reporters Saturday outside the hotel where Farah is being held under a form of house arrest.
Varela says he is appealing her detention.
Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5izrElExnilZ87LBsLiEqxUo8iyiQD9ERTCEO1
(AP) – 57 minutes ago
MEXICO CITY — A defense attorney says a Mexican woman suspected in the death of her 4-year-old daughter denies involvement.
The case of Paulette Gebara Farah has riveted Mexico because of the nationwide campaign her parents launched to find her.
The girl was reported missing March 22 and her body was found more than a week later in her home, wedged between the mattress and the frame of her own bed.
Mother Lisette Farah is being held as suspect.
Mexican newspapers quote her lawyer, Alejandro Varela, as saying Farah "has no idea who could have committed this atrocity." Newspapers say Varela spoke to reporters Saturday outside the hotel where Farah is being held under a form of house arrest.
Varela says he is appealing her detention.
Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Laffin Assasin wrote:You'd have thought the UK media would have "twigged" the similarities with the McCann case by now ?
Or maybe they are just ignoring it and hoping it goes away.
Or of course hoping the British public are too thick to see the similarities.
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I think the British press are just too d***ed scared to run the story for fear of being sued or something. There is no way they can ignore the similarities of the two cases and if they DON'T mention the McC case people will be wondering why they haven't. If you get my meaning. IMO of course !
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This image is taken from Dr Amaral's documentary. It's how the McCanns behaved in the apartment, with police officers observing them from the door of their bedroom. It has always struck me as very odd, that they should both leap onto the bed and weep loudly, although I believe one of the officers said there were no tears from Kate. I could imagine one of them doing that, maybe, and the other sitting to try to comfort, but for both to be there, in parallel, having both been so overcome and decided to do the same thing at the same moment, well, I find it quite bizarre. Something on or under the bed?
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louiseh wrote:I think the British press are just too d***ed scared to run the story for fear of being sued or something. There is no way they can ignore the similarities of the two cases and if they DON'T mention the McC case people will be wondering why they haven't. If you get my meaning. IMO of course !
Hi louiseh,
I think there are a number of ways the British press could word this story without being sued. They are quite capable of doing so if that is their aim. Personally I think they are a bunch of lazy, good for nothing journalists without an ounce of integrity.
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pennylane wrote:louiseh wrote:I think the British press are just too d***ed scared to run the story for fear of being sued or something. There is no way they can ignore the similarities of the two cases and if they DON'T mention the McC case people will be wondering why they haven't. If you get my meaning. IMO of course !
Hi louiseh,
I think there are a number of ways the British press could word this story without being sued. They are quite capable of doing so if that is their aim. Personally I think they are a bunch of lazy, good for nothing journalists without an ounce of integrity.
Yes, You are right, pennylane. ' Yellow bellied cowards ' we used to say at school
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Re: Paulette Gebara Farah
louiseh wrote:pennylane wrote:louiseh wrote:I think the British press are just too d***ed scared to run the story for fear of being sued or something. There is no way they can ignore the similarities of the two cases and if they DON'T mention the McC case people will be wondering why they haven't. If you get my meaning. IMO of course !
Hi louiseh,
I think there are a number of ways the British press could word this story without being sued. They are quite capable of doing so if that is their aim. Personally I think they are a bunch of lazy, good for nothing journalists without an ounce of integrity.
Yes, You are right, pennylane. ' Yellow bellied cowards ' we used to say at school
Sadly it is true
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amethyst wrote:Do the UK press normally report missing children cases - I thought it was usually when they are related some way to Britain? Probably wrong but I can't remember of any
Mexico has likened this little girl's unfortunate end to the Maddie case, and therein lies the pertinence of the story imho.
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amethyst wrote:AnnaEsse wrote:This image is taken from Dr Amaral's documentary. It's how the McCanns behaved in the apartment, with police officers observing them from the door of their bedroom. It has always struck me as very odd, that they should both leap onto the bed and weep loudly, although I believe one of the officers said there were no tears from Kate. I could imagine one of them doing that, maybe, and the other sitting to try to comfort, but for both to be there, in parallel, having both been so overcome and decided to do the same thing at the same moment, well, I find it quite bizarre. Something on or under the bed?
i think it wasn't exactly as shown in the documentary-iirc the policeman said they were kneeling on the floor and crying on the bed - anyway those beds were divan type - no space under them
Thanks amethyst.
Re: Paulette Gebara Farah
The Lord moves in mysterious ways.
Mexican parents suspected in girl's death freed
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5izrElExnilZ87LBsLiEqxUo8iyiQD9ESDT980
Earthquake hits Mexico and shakes Los Angeles
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/7554801/Earthquake-hits-Mexico-and-shakes-Los-Angeles.html
Mexican parents suspected in girl's death freed
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5izrElExnilZ87LBsLiEqxUo8iyiQD9ESDT980
Earthquake hits Mexico and shakes Los Angeles
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/7554801/Earthquake-hits-Mexico-and-shakes-Los-Angeles.html
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Mexico stunned: Missing child found dead at home
By LISA J. ADAMS (AP) – 12 hours ago
MEXICO CITY — From the billboards lining Mexico City's choked highways, the wisp of a girl is larger than life. One hand holds her face in a shy pose; the other lightly brushes over a pink-and-blue princess dress. Beneath, black block letters make a desperate plea: "Help us find her."
In a country so brutalized by violence that bodies hanging from bridges and heads in garbage bags barely merit a headline, the disappearance of 4-year-old Paulette Gebara Farah struck a chord.
Paulette's disappearance became the talk of the town — on the streets, in restaurants, among construction workers and maids, in the comment sections of newspaper Web pages, and on social networking sites such as Twitter and Facebook.
It was every parent's worst nightmare: Paulette's mother, a lawyer, tucked her into bed in their luxury apartment in a safe suburb. When her nanny went to wake her the next morning, she was gone. Adding to the distress, Paulette had a disability that made it difficult for her to walk or talk.
What kind of monster would snatch a tiny, helpless girl from her room, people wondered, and what kind of kidnappers would fail to demand a ransom?
National television channels rushed the parents live onto the nightly news. Radio stations implored listeners to call an 800 number with tips. Mothers forwarded e-mails seeking information about Paulette. And as Mexicans loaded up their cars for the Holy Week holiday, many hugged their children just a little bit tighter.
Much of that compassion turned to rage and disbelief last week when investigators searching Paulette's apartment for signs that clothes or suitcases had been removed stumbled on her tiny body, wrapped in sheets and wedged between the mattress and the frame of her very own bed.
The coroner said she died by suffocation.
Police said the prime suspect is her mother.
"How could she?" asked the tabloid Metro, plastering a crude Mexican expression over a picture of Lizette Farah, teary-eyed in the role of grieving mother.
The allegations recall the case of Susan Smith, the young mother from South Carolina who said she had been carjacked but was convicted of strapping her two sons into their car seats and rolling the car into a lake.
Farah, 34, has not been charged and she proclaimed her innocence Saturday through her lawyer. She and her husband, Mauricio Gebara, 38, and the couple's two nannies were released from custody Sunday after several days of questioning, but authorities said they are still under investigation. They were ordered to turn in their passports and are barred from leaving the region surrounding Mexico City. Police also are looking for an unidentified man they want to talk to.
Farah and Mauricio Gebara issued extraordinary public pleas for help in finding their daughter, whose image plastered signs on lampposts, in supermarkets and on billboards.
"The only thing I want is to get my child back," a solemn Farah, seated on the bed under which Paulette was later found, told Univision. "She's a special girl who needs her parents; who cannot survive on her own; who has a family that adores her and is willing to give up their own lives for her."
By Thursday, the image of a distraught mother had given way to that of a cold and manipulative woman.
"We have before us a lawyer — intelligent, bold, astute. She has always remained very distant in matters of affection and emotional attachment. She has lied," Sandra Yadeum, a legal psychiatric expert working with investigators, told a news conference. "In short, there are characteristics that speak of a mental disorder."
Mexicans expressed their anger over Paulette's death and offered speculation about possible motives.
"What a disgrace," Sol Sanchez, 46, an office worker at a private school in Mexico City, wrote on her Facebook page. "It's an atrocity. It infuriates me."
Uriel Rodriguez, a 24-year-old office worker in Mexico City, surmised that Paulette's parents could have seen their disabled child as a burden, while office worker Georgina Reyes speculated that Farah might have been overwhelmed trying to juggle work and special-needs motherhood.
"But that's no justification," said Reyes, 50. "She had two nannies."
Whatever the truth behind Paulette's killing, the news of her disappearance and death has hit a national nerve already jangled by daily tales of bodies hanging from overpasses and ruthless drug cartel hit men spraying army checkpoints with bullets.
"This affects our faith in humanity," said Guadalupe Loaeza, a contemporary Mexican writer and renowned social commentator. "Why kill a child? ... It's monstrous what we are hearing."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5izrElExnilZ87LBsLiEqxUo8iyiQD9ESO9R80
By LISA J. ADAMS (AP) – 12 hours ago
MEXICO CITY — From the billboards lining Mexico City's choked highways, the wisp of a girl is larger than life. One hand holds her face in a shy pose; the other lightly brushes over a pink-and-blue princess dress. Beneath, black block letters make a desperate plea: "Help us find her."
In a country so brutalized by violence that bodies hanging from bridges and heads in garbage bags barely merit a headline, the disappearance of 4-year-old Paulette Gebara Farah struck a chord.
Paulette's disappearance became the talk of the town — on the streets, in restaurants, among construction workers and maids, in the comment sections of newspaper Web pages, and on social networking sites such as Twitter and Facebook.
It was every parent's worst nightmare: Paulette's mother, a lawyer, tucked her into bed in their luxury apartment in a safe suburb. When her nanny went to wake her the next morning, she was gone. Adding to the distress, Paulette had a disability that made it difficult for her to walk or talk.
What kind of monster would snatch a tiny, helpless girl from her room, people wondered, and what kind of kidnappers would fail to demand a ransom?
National television channels rushed the parents live onto the nightly news. Radio stations implored listeners to call an 800 number with tips. Mothers forwarded e-mails seeking information about Paulette. And as Mexicans loaded up their cars for the Holy Week holiday, many hugged their children just a little bit tighter.
Much of that compassion turned to rage and disbelief last week when investigators searching Paulette's apartment for signs that clothes or suitcases had been removed stumbled on her tiny body, wrapped in sheets and wedged between the mattress and the frame of her very own bed.
The coroner said she died by suffocation.
Police said the prime suspect is her mother.
"How could she?" asked the tabloid Metro, plastering a crude Mexican expression over a picture of Lizette Farah, teary-eyed in the role of grieving mother.
The allegations recall the case of Susan Smith, the young mother from South Carolina who said she had been carjacked but was convicted of strapping her two sons into their car seats and rolling the car into a lake.
Farah, 34, has not been charged and she proclaimed her innocence Saturday through her lawyer. She and her husband, Mauricio Gebara, 38, and the couple's two nannies were released from custody Sunday after several days of questioning, but authorities said they are still under investigation. They were ordered to turn in their passports and are barred from leaving the region surrounding Mexico City. Police also are looking for an unidentified man they want to talk to.
Farah and Mauricio Gebara issued extraordinary public pleas for help in finding their daughter, whose image plastered signs on lampposts, in supermarkets and on billboards.
"The only thing I want is to get my child back," a solemn Farah, seated on the bed under which Paulette was later found, told Univision. "She's a special girl who needs her parents; who cannot survive on her own; who has a family that adores her and is willing to give up their own lives for her."
By Thursday, the image of a distraught mother had given way to that of a cold and manipulative woman.
"We have before us a lawyer — intelligent, bold, astute. She has always remained very distant in matters of affection and emotional attachment. She has lied," Sandra Yadeum, a legal psychiatric expert working with investigators, told a news conference. "In short, there are characteristics that speak of a mental disorder."
Mexicans expressed their anger over Paulette's death and offered speculation about possible motives.
"What a disgrace," Sol Sanchez, 46, an office worker at a private school in Mexico City, wrote on her Facebook page. "It's an atrocity. It infuriates me."
Uriel Rodriguez, a 24-year-old office worker in Mexico City, surmised that Paulette's parents could have seen their disabled child as a burden, while office worker Georgina Reyes speculated that Farah might have been overwhelmed trying to juggle work and special-needs motherhood.
"But that's no justification," said Reyes, 50. "She had two nannies."
Many expressed cynicism that — even if guilty — the rich parents would never be convicted.
"Sure enough they're going to nab the poor garbage man or the gardener, and they'll screw them over because they're poor, while they let the rich parents off the hook," wrote a reader on the Reforma newspaper's Web site.
Others urged their fellow citizens to keep an open mind: "They are innocent until proven guilty," another Reforma reader wrote.
Whatever the truth behind Paulette's killing, the news of her disappearance and death has hit a national nerve already jangled by daily tales of bodies hanging from overpasses and ruthless drug cartel hit men spraying army checkpoints with bullets.
"This affects our faith in humanity," said Guadalupe Loaeza, a contemporary Mexican writer and renowned social commentator. "Why kill a child? ... It's monstrous what we are hearing."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5izrElExnilZ87LBsLiEqxUo8iyiQD9ESO9R80
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oh dearie me.............
"The only thing I want is to get my child back," a solemn Farah, seated on the bed under which Paulette was later found, told Univision. "She's a special girl who needs her parents; who cannot survive on her own; who has a family that adores her and is willing to give up their own lives for her."
Madeleine is so, so special said KM
We need Madeleine, Sean and Amelie need Madeleine and Madeleine needs us
By Thursday, the image of a distraught mother had given way to that of a cold and manipulative woman.
"We have before us a lawyer — intelligent, bold, astute. She has always remained very distant in matters of affection and emotional attachment. She has lied," Sandra Yadeum, a legal psychiatric expert working with investigators, told a news conference. "In short, there are characteristics that speak of a mental disorder."
"The only thing I want is to get my child back," a solemn Farah, seated on the bed under which Paulette was later found, told Univision. "She's a special girl who needs her parents; who cannot survive on her own; who has a family that adores her and is willing to give up their own lives for her."
Madeleine is so, so special said KM
We need Madeleine, Sean and Amelie need Madeleine and Madeleine needs us
By Thursday, the image of a distraught mother had given way to that of a cold and manipulative woman.
"We have before us a lawyer — intelligent, bold, astute. She has always remained very distant in matters of affection and emotional attachment. She has lied," Sandra Yadeum, a legal psychiatric expert working with investigators, told a news conference. "In short, there are characteristics that speak of a mental disorder."
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Re: Paulette Gebara Farah
Laffin Assasin wrote:Many expressed cynicism that — even if guilty — the rich parents would never be convicted.
"Sure enough they're going to nab the poor garbage man or the gardener, and they'll screw them over because they're poor, while they let the rich parents off the hook," wrote a reader on the Reforma newspaper's Web site.
Others urged their fellow citizens to keep an open mind: "They are innocent until proven guilty," another Reforma reader wrote.
Oh dear, more similarities to the McCann case, any good spanish writers about to go read the rest of the comments ?
Exactly the same text in today's Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9017872
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Google translation:-
http://horacero.com.pa/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21979:hora-cero&catid=127:america&Itemid=111117
For its part, the newspaper Excelsior, who claimed to have access to research carried out by the state attorney, said one of the lines of the experts in the case of Paulette is "accidental death."
The above-stated the newspaper, because the photographic evidence, fingerprints, DNA, forensic and autopsy itself, "shows that the little one became entangled with the quilt from her bed and died of asphyxia."
http://horacero.com.pa/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21979:hora-cero&catid=127:america&Itemid=111117
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Google translation
They have a family lawyer
Christopher Gebara Armando Pinto presented as the family lawyer who will handle the legal paperwork to the Attorney General of the State of Mexico (PGJEM) and the media.
Shortly before noon, the brother of Mauricio Gebara, father of small Paulette, whose body was found last week in a bedroom of his home in Interlomas, left the chapel in the cemetery Provence French to present the family legal representative Farah Gebara, who will be conducting the investigation in the case of death of the child.
It said that in the next few minutes, the father of Paulette will leave the cemetery to deliver a message to the media, whenever requested to be allowed to spend a few moments with his daughter, not having seen her.
Video:-
Paulette's parents have expressed disgust, anger and emotional conflict
Juan Pablo Garcia, an expert on nonverbal behavior and language ensures that there are various facial expressions in the interviews he gave to the media that indicate deception or lying
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/670636.html
They have a family lawyer
Christopher Gebara Armando Pinto presented as the family lawyer who will handle the legal paperwork to the Attorney General of the State of Mexico (PGJEM) and the media.
Shortly before noon, the brother of Mauricio Gebara, father of small Paulette, whose body was found last week in a bedroom of his home in Interlomas, left the chapel in the cemetery Provence French to present the family legal representative Farah Gebara, who will be conducting the investigation in the case of death of the child.
It said that in the next few minutes, the father of Paulette will leave the cemetery to deliver a message to the media, whenever requested to be allowed to spend a few moments with his daughter, not having seen her.
Video:-
Paulette's parents have expressed disgust, anger and emotional conflict
Juan Pablo Garcia, an expert on nonverbal behavior and language ensures that there are various facial expressions in the interviews he gave to the media that indicate deception or lying
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/670636.html
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amethyst wrote:*jesus*
what's with all the shrugging and head shaking and facial expressions? where is the worry or distress in the faces or voices?
omg - i presume that is the mother in that video not the nanny?
Looking at body language is much more interesting when you don't understand what is being said. Two cold characters there. The mother, a lawyer, looks more like she's discussing a case in her office.
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