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Post  AnnaEsse Mon 5 Apr - 22:08

amethyst wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
amethyst wrote:*jesus*

what's with all the shrugging and head shaking and facial expressions? where is the worry or distress in the faces or voices?

omg - i presume that is the mother in that video not the nanny?

Looking at body language is much more interesting when you don't understand what is being said. Two cold characters there. The mother, a lawyer, looks more like she's discussing a case in her office.

oh how true - even with english if you turn the sound off its more obvious!

so that is definitely the mother!

i can't beleive it tbh

I think that's the mother, but not absolutely sure. Why do Spanish and Portuguese people talk so fast? Or does it just seem as though they do?!!
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Post  AnnaEsse Mon 5 Apr - 22:23

amethyst wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
amethyst wrote:*jesus*

what's with all the shrugging and head shaking and facial expressions? where is the worry or distress in the faces or voices?

omg - i presume that is the mother in that video not the nanny?

Looking at body language is much more interesting when you don't understand what is being said. Two cold characters there. The mother, a lawyer, looks more like she's discussing a case in her office.

oh how true - even with english if you turn the sound off its more obvious!

so that is definitely the mother!

i can't beleive it tbh

Amethyst,

Here is Paulette's mother. "Where is Paulette?" So, I guess this was before the little girl was found. And it looks like she's sitting on Paulette's bed....in which case, at that point, the child's body was underneath her!

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Post  Guest Mon 5 Apr - 22:34

AnnaEsse wrote:

Here is Paulette's mother. "Where is Paulette?" So, I guess this was before the little girl was found. And it looks like she's sitting on Paulette's bed....in which case, at that point, the child's body was underneath her!

Sounds unbelievable that her child's dead body could be right underneath her doesn't it but anything is possible in these cases. I mean, only recently in Scotland, a mother had been discovered living for maybe more than 3 months with the decomposing body of her 23-month-old child.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2010/04/01/body-of-baby-found-at-scots-house-may-have-been-there-for-more-than-three-months-86908-22153391/
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Post  ann_chovey Tue 6 Apr - 15:06

Laffin Assasin wrote:
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AnnaEsse wrote:

Here is Paulette's mother. "Where is Paulette?" So, I guess this was before the little girl was found. And it looks like she's sitting on Paulette's bed....in which case, at that point, the child's body was underneath her!

Sounds unbelievable that her child's dead body could be right underneath her doesn't it but anything is possible in these cases. I mean, only recently in Scotland, a mother had been discovered living for maybe more than 3 months with the decomposing body of her 23-month-old child.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2010/04/01/body-of-baby-found-at-scots-house-may-have-been-there-for-more-than-three-months-86908-22153391/

Wasn't their a recent case in France where a childs body was kept in the freezer in a families home ?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j1N5RlvhbIBkUlYVYxwnusMEtqwg

TOURS, France (AFP) — A French woman who admitted killing three of her own babies, burning one corpse and hiding the others in the family freezer, was sentenced on Thursday to eight years in jail.

Veronique Courjault had faced a possible life sentence after she admitted to smothering two baby boys born in secret at her expat home in South Korea in 2002 and 2003, and a third child born in France in 1999.

Wearing a navy blue-and-white checked shirt, her hair pulled back in a pony tail, the 41-year-old wept openly after her sentence was read out, at the close of an emotional eight-day trial that has gripped France.

She exchanged a final glance with her husband Jean-Louis, who stood by her throughout the trial, and touched hands with her sisters, before being led out of the courtroom in the central city of Tours.

Smiling with relief, Jean-Louis Courjault, 42 told reporters he and the couple's two older sons, now 12 and 14, were happy with the verdict.

"This is a sentence that will allow us to rebuild our lives, to see light at the end of the tunnel. In a few months, Veronique will be able to be reunited with her children, and we will have a new beginning."

Since she has served almost three years in pre-trial detention, Courjault could be eligible for parole under French law in as little as a year, her lawyers said.

The nine jurors -- seven men and two women -- took close to eight hours to reach their verdict, as journalists and curious onlookers waited outside.

Part of their challenge was to decide whether Courjault -- described as a caring mother to her two older sons -- suffered from a mental illness when she gave birth alone to the babies and killed them.

Courjault could have faced life in jail for the triple infanticide, but prosecutors had finally sought 10 years.

She broke down repeatedly during the trial, at one point describing her actions as "monstrous, inexplicable."

"I was aware I was pregnant, and then I lost that awareness. As far as I was concerned I wasn't expecting a baby," she told the court.

A heavyset woman, Courjault kept the three pregnancies hidden from her husband. He has supported his wife since her confession, visiting her in jail, and insisting she needs psychiatric help, not punishment.

Mental health experts were called to testify on a little-known condition identified as "pregnancy denial," a deep disorder in which a woman suffers from a complete lack of awareness of being pregnant.

Prosecutor Philippe Varin finally argued that Courjault was not suffering from denial, although he said her troubled "personality" could be an alleviating factor in the case.

"Do not demonize Veronique Courjault," Varin told the jury. "But do not turn her into an icon either."

Already the mother of two young sons, Courjault hid two pregnancies from her husband after he moved the family to the South Korean capital Seoul to take a job as an engineer for the US car parts company Delphi.

Jean-Louis Courjault found the infants' bodies in the family freezer in July 2006 after going downstairs to put some fish in the icebox. He was initially charged as an accomplice, but the charges were later dropped.

The couple at first insisted they had no idea who the infants were, but after DNA tests showed they were the parents, Veronique Courjault admitted to their murder.

She later testified that she burned the body of a third baby in the fireplace of their home in France in 1999.

Taking the stand earlier Thursday, her face streaked with tears, Courjault told the court: "I tried to explain myself as best I could. I know my words weren't good enough most of the time.

"I want to say that I know I killed our children, and that it is a fact that will stay with me."

Called as witnesses, her family and in-laws all described her as a loving daughter, mother and wife, but one who had trouble expressing her emotions.

Defence lawyers had asked jurors to show understanding and allow the troubled family to rebuild their lives.

"This woman committed a mistake, a crime, but she is not a monster," said lawyer Henri Leclerc in his closing arguments.
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Post  Guest Wed 7 Apr - 2:15

Mexican dad doubts mom's innocence in girl's death

By ALEXANDRA OLSON (AP) – 1 hour ago

A Mexican father has cast doubt on his wife's innocence in the death of their 4-year-old daughter, whose body was found in her bedroom a week after her parents reported her missing. Her mother tearfully insisted that she was innocent.

The case of Paulette Gebara, who was buried Tuesday, has riveted Mexico since the girl's parents reported her missing on March 22.

Sympathizers were shocked when police found Paulette's body wedged between the mattress and frame of her own bed in a luxury apartment on the outskirts of Mexico City. Investigators said she was suffocated.

Police detained her parents and two nannies last week but released them without charge after several days of questioning. All four remain under investigation and are barred from leaving the country.

Paulette's father, Mauricio Gebara, refused to defend his wife's innocence when asked about it in an interview late Monday with local Televisa network. Gebara said he was only certain of his own innocence.

"The only thing I can say is that for me, it wasn't an accident," Gebara said of his daughter's death. "I can only speak for myself."

In separate interview with Televisa, the mother, Lizette Farah, sobbed as she insisted she had no idea why her husband was suspicious of her.

"They have played a lot with our minds. Maybe he didn't have enough trust in me because I have never doubted him," Farah said, sobbing.

She said her husband asked her not to attend Paulette's wake Monday.

"My husband told me he didn't want to see me again," Farah said, but she attended the funeral Tuesday.

Farah, a lawyer, says she last saw Paulette when she tucked her into bed on the night of March 21. She says when Paulette nanny went to wake her the next morning, she was gone.

In the interview, Farah insisted she had no idea how her daughter's body ended up in the bedroom. She said that she was outside her home when police detained her last week and that a psychologist told her that her daughter was found dead.

"It was the last thing I wanted to hear," Farah said. "All I know is that I lost my little angel."

She said her daughter, the younger of two sisters, was born with a disability that impaired her speech and movement on the left side of her body. She said Paulette had made progress with therapy and was able to feed herself, climb stairs and use the bathroom on her own.

Farah insisted she never considered caring for her daughter a burden, as Mexicans have widely speculated.

"She was always a fighter," Farah said, her face again crumpling into sobs. "Nobody could believe what that girl had achieved."

Copyright ©️ 2010 The Associated Press.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5izrElExnilZ87LBsLiEqxUo8iyiQD9ETSCCO0

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Post  Guest Wed 7 Apr - 2:39

¿Es inocente del crimen la mamá de la pequeña Paulette?

Is the mother of little Paulette innocent of the crime?

No 67% (5529)

No del todo (not at all) 17% (1433)

Sí (yes) 15% (1239)

Total de votos: 8199

http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=2350571
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Post  Guest Wed 7 Apr - 6:09

Autopsy confirms Paulette died of asphyxia, body had no evidence of physical or sexual violence

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/671096.html
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Post  Guest Wed 7 Apr - 6:18

Contradictions of the mother of Paulette

Lisette Farah has provided evidence in interviews that contradict: the relationship with her husband, the conversation with his eldest daughter and the existence of a third party.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/671095.html
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Post  pennylane Wed 7 Apr - 8:54

Early reports said the body was found hidden in a plastic bag, so I presume there will be DNA of some sort on that bag?

Kate McCann, Mommie Dearest
Lisette Farah, Mommie Dearest, the sequel (imho)

The lack of emotion from both in the immediate aftermath is chilling.
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Post  AnnaEsse Wed 7 Apr - 9:35

pennylane wrote:Early reports said the body was found hidden in a plastic bag, so I presume there will be DNA of some sort on that bag?

Kate McCann, Mommie Dearest
Lisette Farah, Mommie Dearest, the sequel (imho)

The lack of emotion from both in the immediate aftermath is chilling.

But Lisette sobbed when her husband doubted her innocence. Only tears for herself, not for her daughter.
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Post  Susan Thu 8 Apr - 11:57

Girl, 4, buried as mystery surrounds death


* April 07, 2010 10:38AM


A FOUR-YEAR-OLD disabled girl was buried in Mexico today amid a highly publicised probe into how her body was discovered in her bedroom a week after her parents reported her missing.

Paulette Gebara was found suffocated in her bedroom last Wednesday, nine days after her parents launched a massive search to find her, including posting large billboard photographs on roadsides in central Mexico.

Her mother, Lisette Farah, first notified authorities of her disappearance and is now a suspect in her death. Her father, Mauricio Gebara, did not attend her burial, nor did her seven-year-old sister.

The girl's maternal aunt, Arlette Farah, wept as she arrived at the ceremony in Mexico City and called on the media to avoid filming the proceedings out of respect to the family.

"My sister is destroyed and can't even speak," Ms Farah said.

The attorney general of central Mexico state, Alberto Bazbaz, yesterday sought information from the social networking website Facebook about messages posted by the girl's mother.

Paulette Gebara's body appeared behind the mattress of her bed in the room from which she had allegedly disappeared in a luxury home on the outskirts of the Mexican capital.

Her parents and two nannies were released on Sunday from provisional detention after being interrogated over contradictions in their initial statements.

They have been barred from leaving the country.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/girl-4-buried-as-mystery-surrounds-death/story-e6frf7jx-1225850824406
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Paulette y Madeleine
Rotonda | Atando cabos


Denise Maerker.
ATANDO CABOS POR DENISE MAERKER

Las similitudes con el caso Paulette son sorprendentes y mostrarlas quizá nos ayude a poner en perspectiva el frenesí que se ha desatado también en torno a este caso
Alípio Ribeiro diría más tarde en una entrevista: “Hubiera sido inmoral entonces si se les hubiera considerado a ellos como sospechosos”. Ribeiro era el director de la Policía Judiciaria portuguesa encargado de la investigación de la desaparición de la niña inglesa de tres años Madeleine McCann en mayo de 2007. Este caso ha sido estudiado por sociólogos y especialistas de los medios por la intensidad con la que millones de personas acabaron involucrados emocionalmente en esta historia.

Las similitudes con el caso Paulette son sorprendentes y mostrarlas quizá nos ayude a poner en perspectiva el frenesí que se ha desatado también en torno a este caso: * Dos niñas desaparecen de su cama. * Los padres con relativo poder frente a las autoridades, unos por ser ingleses ricos en Portugal y los otros por su nivel socioeconómico, imponen la hipótesis del robo o el secuestro y lanzan importantes campañas de búsqueda a través de los medios. * En ambos casos la Policía tarda en contemplar la posibilidad de que los padres estuvieran involucrados. En Portugal fue hasta que peritos ingleses descubrieron en la cajuela del auto que la familia rentó 25 días después de la desaparición, huellas biológicas de la niña. * Las contradicciones de la autoridad y las fugas de información provocan desconfianza y suspicacia. * Los medios van proveyendo diariamente al auditorio con elementos, falsos o verdaderos, que hacen que la audiencia se sienta, así sea vicariamente, partícipe de un drama criminal y empiece a tomar partido. * La cotidianidad de las entregas: una nueva hipótesis, un presunto amante que se presenta a declarar sin que nadie lo llame, un audio que se hace público, el abogado de las nanas que teme que se les involucre, la confusión sobre una pijama en la cama, los cuestionamientos sobre si a la madre se le vieron suficientes muestras de dolor (presente en ambos casos), todos se vuelven elementos que alimentan el drama socialmente compartido y terminan construyendo una narrativa más propia de una miniserie de suspenso que de un asunto criminal. * Porque los tiempos de la investigación no coinciden con la exigencia cotidiana de la audiencia, los medios empiezan a buscar la verdad por su cuenta, haciendo una suerte de investigación paralela con interrogatorios exhaustivos y convocando a peritos independientes. Cada ciudadano termina por sentir que tiene elementos para dar un veredicto. * En ambos casos se deposita mucha confianza en la capacidad probatoria de la evidencia científica. En el caso Madeleine no fueron concluyentes, aunque ellos nunca encontraron el cuerpo. * Las interpretaciones divergentes sobre los mismos peritajes dan lugar a “capítulos adicionales”.

El caso Madeleine se cerró 14 meses después de su desaparición por falta de evidencia en contra de los dos principales sospechosos, el padre y la madre. En Portugal el caso dejó entre la mayoría la percepción de que el sistema de justicia era vulnerable a las presiones de la gente poderosa y una disminuida confianza en su sistema de justicia.



Verry verry bad translation. Sorry...

Paulette and Madeleine
Rotonda | Shipping News

Denise Maerker.
BY DENISE Maerker Shipping News

The similarities with the case are striking and show Paulette may help us to put into perspective the frenzy has also sparked about this event
Alipio Ribeiro said later in an interview: "It would be immoral then if they had considered them as suspects." Ribeiro was the director of the Portuguese Judicial Police in charge of the investigation into the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann three years in May 2007. This case has been studied by sociologists and the media by the intensity with which millions of people ended up involved emotionally in this story.

The similarities with the case are striking and show Paulette may help us to put into perspective the frenzy has also sparked around this case: * Two girls disappear from their bed. * Parents with relative power against the authorities, a rich as English in Portugal and the other by their socioeconomic status, impose the hypothesis of robbery or kidnapping and release major search campaigns through the media. * In both cases the police take to contemplate the possibility that the parents were involved. In Portugal was only when British experts discovered in the trunk of the car the family rented 25 days after the disappearance, the girl's biological footprints. * The contradictions of authority and information leaks cause mistrust and suspicion. * The media day will provide the audience with items, true or false, that make the audience feel, even if vicariously engaged in a crime drama and begin to take sides. * The daily life of deliveries: a new hypothesis, an alleged mistress to state that occurs without anyone's call, audio that is made public, the lawyer for the mothers who fear they are involved, the confusion in pajamas bed, questions about whether the mother is given enough samples were pain (present in both cases), all elements become socially shared feed the drama and end up building a narrative more suited to a miniseries suspense of a case criminal. * For the times of the investigation do not match the daily demand of the audience, the media begin to seek the truth on their own, making a sort of parallel research with extensive interviews and convening independent experts. Every citizen ends up feeling that you have items to give a verdict. * In both cases, deposited a lot of confidence in the quality of proof of the scientific evidence. If Madeleine were inconclusive, although they never found the body. * The differing interpretations of the same surveys give rise to "additional chapters."

Madeleine case closed 14 months after his disappearance for lack of evidence against the two main suspects, the father and mother. In Portugal the case among the majority left the perception that the justice system was vulnerable to pressure from powerful people and a diminished confidence in its justice system.
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Post  kitti Mon 19 Apr - 14:27

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Paulette ... found Murdered in her home.

The mother did Exactly What the McCanns did ... Plead for her return and so on.
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http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2010/194688/6/paulette-y-madeleine.htm


Google translation

Paulette and Madeleine



Denise Maerker.



The
similarities with the case are striking and show Paulette may help us
to put into perspective the frenzy has also sparked about this event

Alipio Ribeiro said later in an interview: "It would have been immoral, then if they had considered them as suspects." Ribeiro
was the director of the Portuguese Judicial Police in charge of the
investigation into the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann
three years in May 2007. This
case has been studied by sociologists and the media by the intensity
with which millions of people ended up involved emotionally in this
story.


The
similarities with the case are striking and show Paulette may help us
to put into perspective the frenzy has also sparked around this case: *
Two girls disappear from their bed. *
Parents with relative power against the authorities, a rich as English
in Portugal and the other by their socioeconomic status, impose the
hypothesis of robbery or kidnapping and release major search campaigns
through the media. * In both cases the police take to contemplate the possibility that the parents were involved. In
Portugal was only when British experts discovered in the trunk of the
car the family rented 25 days after the disappearance, the girl's
biological footprints. * The contradictions of authority and information leaks cause mistrust and suspicion. *
The media day will provide the audience with items, true or false, that
make the audience feel, even if vicariously engaged in a crime drama
and begin to take sides. *
The daily life of deliveries: a new hypothesis, an alleged mistress to
state that occurs without anyone's call, audio that is made public, the
lawyer for the mothers who fear they are involved, the confusion in
pajamas bed,
questions about whether the mother is given enough samples were pain
(present in both cases), all elements become socially shared feed the
drama and end up building a narrative more suited to a miniseries
suspense of a case criminal. *
For the times of the investigation do not match the daily demand of the
audience, the media begin to seek the truth on their own, making a sort
of parallel research with extensive interviews and convening
independent experts. Every citizen ends up feeling that you have items to give a verdict. * In both cases, deposited a lot of confidence in the quality of proof of the scientific evidence. If Madeleine were inconclusive, although they never found the body. * The differing interpretations of the same surveys give rise to "additional chapters."


Madeleine
case closed 14 months after his disappearance for lack of evidence
against the two main suspects, the father and mother. In
Portugal the case among the majority left the perception that the
justice system was vulnerable to pressure from powerful people and a
diminished confidence in its justice system.

CREDITS: Informant Editorial / RMP Apr-19 03:33 hrs
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Who is this Paulette?
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