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Panda wrote:Breaking News.......James Murdoch has resigned from News International.
I SAW THIS 3.15 PM? AT MY DAY CENTRE,SURPRISE,SURPRISE.
WHO WILL TAKE OVER,I WONDER.

It's not a question of who will take over, it's more a question of how long Rupert Murdoch will last as Chairman of Newscorp.....this is a very serious
case and he can't plead ignorance.
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Personally , I think that Murdoch shouldn't be allowed to produce a newspaper in this country after what has happened and to let him produce the sun on a sunday.....it should not off been allowed to happen.
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LONDON (AP) -- James Murdoch, the executive at the epicenter of the phone-hacking scandal at his father's British newspapers, is stepping down as executive chairman of News Corp.'s U.K. newspaper arm.

News Corp. said in a statement Wednesday that James, the youngest son of 80-year-old media mogul Rupert Murdoch, has relinquished his position at News International to concentrate on expanding the company's television business.

The 39-year-old James will still remain deputy chief operating officer of News Corp. but the move plucks the one-time heir apparent to his father's global empire away from a firestorm over his credibility and his role in Britain's expanding phone-hacking scandal.

News Corp. shares set a 52-week high in New York after the news broke, rising 1.6 percent to $20.11 a share.

"James' resignation was inevitable," said Louis Ureneck, a journalism professor at Boston University. "He either condoned the hacking or was irresponsibly unaware. Neither is acceptable in a top executive of a media company."

James Murdoch is still chairman of satellite broadcaster BSkyB, in which News Corp. holds a 39 percent stake. The hacking scandal effectively killed News Corp.'s bid to take full control of the lucrative media company.

Revelations last summer that voicemail phone hacking went far beyond one rogue reporter at Murdoch's News of the World tabloid have led to three parallel police investigations and an inquiry into Britain's media ethics.

There has been evidence of widespread criminality, with journalists breaking into personal phones and computers, and illegally bribing police and other officials for information to fuel scoops.

The scandal brought down Murdoch's 168-year-old News of the World tabloid and led to the arrests of more than a dozen journalists. Other top News International executives have resigned, but Rupert Murdoch has long insisted that James had his full support.

James Murdoch has twice publicly had to change his story about what he knew when in the phone-hacking scandal. In dramatic testimony before Parliament last year, he insisted he had never been shown a critical piece of evidence that suggested that illegal practices went much further than his company was admitting at the time.

That evidence - an incriminating email recovered by police - was the basis of a massive payout made to a prominent phone hacking victim in 2008. James Murdoch authorized the settlement but insisted that he was never told about the damning email.

Contradicted by his former lieutenants, James Murdoch later had to return to Parliament to adjust his testimony. He was told about the evidence, he admitted, but said he wasn't told why it was important.

Another document uncovered since then has cast doubt on that explanation as well. A printout of a 2008 email proved that James Murdoch had been warned by one of his top lawyers - in writing - that the explosive evidence could lead to a "nightmare scenario."

In a letter sent to U.K. lawmakers in December, James Murdoch explained he got that email on his smartphone over the weekend and he must not have read all the way down to the important part.

His so-called "BlackBerry defense" has since been widely ridiculed.

Media expert and think-tank director Charlie Beckett said the Murdoch family and its global empire are, for the first time, being subjected to external forces because of public anger about the scandal.

"They're not in control of their destiny," he said. "(Today's move) is an attempt to reassert some kind of control."

Beckett said he was surprised that the resignation had not come sooner. He said James Murdoch will remain an integral part of the company, since television is a huge part of News Corp.'s business.

"If that's being thrown under a bus, then I would love to be thrown under a bus like that," Beckett said. "He's not losing his job, he's being given an important role."

In the statement, James Murdoch thanked his colleagues for their dedication, saying they work "tirelessly to inform the public." He also praised the company's latest British newspaper, The Sun on Sunday, which published its first edition last weekend.

Rupert Murdoch praised his son's leadership at News International, saying in the same statement that James has made "lasting contributions" to the group's global strategy.

"Now that he has moved to New York, James will continue to assume a variety of essential corporate leadership mandates, with particular focus on important pay-TV businesses and broader international operations," he said.

Tom Mockridge, chief executive of News International, will continue in his post and will report to News Corp. President and Chief Operating Officer Chase Carey, the company said.

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kitti wrote:Personally , I think that Murdoch shouldn't be allowed to produce a newspaper in this country after what has happened and to let him produce the sun on a sunday.....it should not off been allowed to happen.

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There is a U.S. directive about Good Governance of Businesses in other Countries and I think Rupert Murdoch will be forced to step down and the 70%
shares own by the Murdoch family will have to be reduced so that they do not have control any more. The NOTW was bad enough, this is much more serious , expect The Sun to close down and I think Murdoch knew this was going to happen which is why he started the Sun on Sunday.

Cameron is not going to come out of this very well, not only did he accept Murdoch's backing for his election, he employed Coulson, is known to
attend Murdoch social events and the Labour Party will make the most of this.

James Cameron has hotfooted it back to the States and for now retain his job as Chairman of bskyb which is very profitable.
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On Channel 4 tonight the Editor of Vanity Fair said there is a chance the U.S. Justice Dept. will take action which is why Newscorp has been doing its
own investigation. James Murdoch is ensconced in America now and has no need to go to the U.K. bskyb is run from America. It may be that Rupert
Murdoch will be forced to sell News International if the Justice Dept. rules he is unfit to offer good governance of his British Newspapers. It depends
who takes over as Chairman of News International.

Alistair Morgan, Daniel's Brother says his life has been Hell trying to get to the bottom of Daniel's death. He said Daniel was dealing with Police corruption but didn't know who to turn to or trust in the Police Force. There were apparently several investigations but none which proved anything and
Alistair says there was a cover-up .
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James Murdoch is stepping down as executive chair of News International, the company said today.

In a statement published on Wednesday afternoon, James' father Rupert Murdoch, who runs the company, said:

"We are all grateful for James' leadership at News International and across Europe and Asia, where he has made lasting contributions to the group's strategy in paid digital content and its efforts to improve and enhance governance programs.

“He has demonstrated leadership and continues to create great value at Star TV, Sky Deutschland, Sky Italia, and BSkyB. Now that he has moved to New York, James will continue to assume a variety of essential corporate leadership mandates, with particular focus on important pay-TV businesses and broader international operations."

James Murdoch added: "I deeply appreciate the dedication of my many talented colleagues at News International who work tirelessly to inform the public and am confident about the tremendous momentum we have achieved under the leadership of my father and Tom Mockridge.

"With the successful launch of The Sun on Sunday and new business practices in place across all titles, News International is now in a strong position to build on its successes in the future.

"As Deputy Chief Operating Officer, I look forward to expanding my commitment to News Corporation’s international television businesses and other key initiatives across the Company."










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Operation Elveden, investigating inappropriate payments to police and public officials, have arrested a 32y/o woman today.

This is the tip of the iceberg chrissie an investigating Police Officer died under suspicious circumstances.
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Operation Elveden, investigating inappropriate payments to police and public officials, have arrested a 32y/o woman today.

This is the tip of the iceberg chrissie an investigating Police Officer died under suspicious circumstances.
Really? Who was it Panda? My minds a blank.
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A former anti-terrorism police chief has told the Leveson Inquiry into media ethics that invasions of privacy are "odious" and "can be extraordinarily distressing" but "they don't kill you, terrorists do".
Peter Clarke - the senior policeman in charge of the original investigation into phone hacking - also said he stood by his controversial decision not to widen that inquiry.

The ex-deputy assistant commissioner, who was head of Scotland Yard's counter terrorism division, said there were huge demands on his department's resources at that time and terrorist investigations took priority.

Mr Clarke said his department was dealing with 70 separate investigations into terror plots in 2006, at the time evidence emerged implicating the News of the World newspaper in phone hacking.

A year later, the NOTW's royal editor Clive Goodman and private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were jailed for hacking into the mobile phone voicemail messages of members of the royal household.

Last year, Scotland Yard launched a fresh phone-hacking investigation, amid criticism police had deliberately decided not to properly pursue the original inquiry.

In his evidence, Mr Clarke said: "Invasions of privacy are odious and can be extraordinarily distressing, but to put it bluntly, they don't kill you- terrorists do."

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The witness said it was the pressing need to ensure public safety and the fear that a wider phone-hacking inquiry would require huge resources, which mainly governed his decision not to delve deeper into hacking in 2006.

He said that given all those considerations, he would never have sanctioned a wider phone-hacking inquiry with the evidence which was available at that time.

He added: "This wasn't even close, not because of the quality of the evidence, not because of the strategy, but because I'm coping with 70 terrorist operations, although I'd have liked to do it, at that time, at that place, this wasn't close."

Mr Clarke also revealed he had attended dinner on one occasion with News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch, as part of a counter terrorism briefing exercise.

He said there was "scepticism" in the media that the capital was a target before the July 7 attacks.

The retired deputy assistant commissioner said he had met Mr Murdoch and held separate meetings with other media bosses in August 2004.

Lord Stevens - the then commissioner - had been "appalled" by the threat of a dirty bomb, he said.

"He directed that he and I should visit the whole range of media outlets, not just News International," Mr Clarke told the inquiry.

There was a "considerable amount of scepticism about the reality of the terrorist threat in the UK", he added.

When asked why he met media organisations for food, he said "it was felt it would be useful to have more informal meetings from across media outlets".

"My sense was that the support was being undermined by some of the negative comment in the media," Mr Clarke told the inquiry.

"The purpose was not to make the police look good, but to try and balance the public discussion, so that communities could have confidence in the integrity of what we were doing."

He added: "I was not interested in trying to make the police look good."

Later at the inquiry, former Met assistant commissioner John Yates said he "was briefed against on an industrial scale" during his high-profile investigation into cash-for-peerages.

:: A 32-year-old woman has been arrested by detectives investigating allegations of corrupt payments made by journalists to public officials.

She is the 23rd person to be detained as part of Operation Elveden.


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Operation Elveden, investigating inappropriate payments to police and public officials, have arrested a 32y/o woman today.

This is the tip of the iceberg chrissie an investigating Police Officer died under suspicious circumstances.
Really? Who was it Panda? My minds a blank.

The person arrested today is:

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I'm not sure if Panda was referring to the murder of Daniel Morgan but he was a private investigator, not a policeman.
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Operation Elveden, investigating inappropriate payments to police and public officials, have arrested a 32y/o woman today.

This is the tip of the iceberg chrissie an investigating Police Officer died under suspicious circumstances.
Really? Who was it Panda? My minds a blank.

Afternoon wjk......I don't know how some of my posts end up with those big gaps.  Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp? - Page 17 23324

This is part of the post before the "gap" one.

"Alistair Morgan, Daniel's Brother says his life has been Hell trying to get to the bottom of Daniel's death. He said Daniel was dealing with Police corruption but didn't know who to turn to or trust in the Police Force. There were apparently several investigations but none which proved anything and
Alistair says there was a cover-up ."

I saw Alistair being interviewed on Channel 4 News last night and jotted this down. It appears Scotland Yard are very corrupt.....what price an independent review of the McCann case now?
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chrissie, I remember reading about this woman a few days ago , can't remember what she did wrong.

Apparently Newscorp are in possession of 300 million texts and e-mails found in Boxes at NOTW Offices. They are passing all this information on to the
Police with Employees crying foul. The Truth is News International comes under the "Good Governance of Foreign Companies registered in the U.S and there could be an investigation by the US Justice Department, which is why James has hightailed it back to the States.

Newscorp have already spent over £78 million in payment to the victims of phone-hacking and there are many more to come. I think they will force Rupert to stand down as Chairman and Casey, an American , is waiting in the wings. he is a Director of Newscorp.
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Panda, she is accused of making payment to the police and or their families in return for stories.

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Press Release Carter-Rucl<
22 July 2011 Carter-Ruck Solicitors
6 St Andrew Street
London EC4A 3AE
ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER JOHN YATES
ISSUES LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AGAINST
THE EVENING STANDARD
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John Yates, Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, has today
issued High Court proceedings for libel against the London Evening
Standard over aspects of its repotring of his conduct in the News of the
World phone-hacking investigation. The claim relates to allegations
published in articles on 7 July 2011.
Mr Yates' solicitor, Luke Staiano of Carter-Ruck, said:
"The Evening Standard published highly defamatory allegations
concerning Assistant Commissioner Yates which go to the heatr of
his integrity as a police officer. The allegations are completely false
and without foundation. The newspaper made no effotr to contact
Mr Yates to verify the accuracy of the allegations and even wrongly
claimed in the article that Mr Yates had not responded to calls. The
Evening Standard has refused to apologise or withdraw the
allegations, leaving Mr Yates with no alternative but to bring legal
proceedings."
Partners
Andrew Stephenson
For further information please contact Ruth Collard or Luke Staiano of
Carter-Ruck (020 7353 5005 or ruth.collard@carter-ruck.com or
luke.staiano@carter-ruck.com).
Alasdair Pepper
Guy Martin
Nigel Tait
Ruth Collard
Cameron Doley
Claire Gill
Adam Tudor
Hanna Basha
Magnus Boyd
Partnership Secretary
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Operation Elveden, investigating inappropriate payments to police and public officials, have arrested a 32y/o woman today.

This is the tip of the iceberg chrissie an investigating Police Officer died under suspicious circumstances.
Really? Who was it Panda? My minds a blank.

Afternoon wjk......I don't know how some of my posts end up with those big gaps.  Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp? - Page 17 23324

This is part of the post before the "gap" one.

"Alistair Morgan, Daniel's Brother says his life has been Hell trying to get to the bottom of Daniel's death. He said Daniel was dealing with Police corruption but didn't know who to turn to or trust in the Police Force. There were apparently several investigations but none which proved anything and
Alistair says there was a cover-up ."

I saw Alistair being interviewed on Channel 4 News last night and jotted this down. It appears Scotland Yard are very corrupt.....what price an independent review of the McCann case now?

Hi Panda, thanks for the reply. Daniel was a PI, not a police officer. I follow Alistair, his brother on Twitter.
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hi wjk,

I'm fine thanks. Have you noticed , Carter Ruck are Solicitors , it's quite incestuous the way all these disparate people are connected.  Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp? - Page 17 29204

@ chrissie, thanks for the info ......this case is going to drag on for months , many heads will roll, 5 investigaitions and they turned up nothing????
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Post  chrissie Thu 1 Mar - 15:21

It is amazing but perhaps not surprising how all these people are connected in some way, however small. So much corruption. I follow Alistair Morgan on twitter too.
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chrissie wrote:It is amazing but perhaps not surprising how all these people are connected in some way, however small. So much corruption. I follow Alistair Morgan on twitter too.

Chrissie , I bet Cameron is worried about Rupert Murdoch endorsing his Candidacy for PM, plus he employed Andy Coulson, plus he socialised with
Murdoch, Wade et al. Iv"e never liked Cameron, he is reactive, not proactive. Does Alistair think it was the Police who were involved in his Brothers'
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Post  chrissie Thu 1 Mar - 15:43

Funny you should mention Cameron. Just read this on twitter:

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"Mr Brooks had lent a number of horses to Mr Cameron over the years" telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ph…

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ETA: Alistair is convinced there was a cover up possibly involving the Met and NOTW. (trying to be careful what I say)
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chrissie wrote:Funny you should mention Cameron. Just read this on twitter:

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Labour are going to love this!!!!

I don't know if you saw this Drama a couple of years ago on Channel 4 about Boris Johnson and David Cameron , both at Eton the same time. Boris was
popular, devil-may-care and ended up Head of the students Union. David, quieter, studious born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but there was a rivalry
between them. Can,t remember what Boris did when he left Uni, but Cameron,s Aunt who worked at Buckingham Palace had a word in somebody,s ear and David got a job at Conservative Central Office...see what I mean??

ETA: Alistair is convinced there was a cover up possibly involving the Met and NOTW. (trying to be careful what I say)
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I didn't see the documentary Panda but it's definitely who you know in some circles  Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp? - Page 17 294124
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chrissie wrote:I didn't see the documentary Panda but it's definitely who you know in some circles  Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp? - Page 17 294124

What happened to us then chrissie, everything I have achieved, not much really, has been the hard way, but there is a certain satisfaction in knowing
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What happened to us then chrissie, everything I have achieved, not much really, has been the hard way, but there is a certain satisfaction in knowing
what I acheived was on merit , not who I knew.  Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp? - Page 17 25346

I agree Panda. Much the same for me. I'm quite proud of what I have achieved but as you say, it's through hard work.
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chrissie wrote:
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What happened to us then chrissie, everything I have achieved, not much really, has been the hard way, but there is a certain satisfaction in knowing
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I agree Panda. Much the same for me. I'm quite proud of what I have achieved but as you say, it's through hard work.

Chrissie, I don't think anyone has had such a varied Career as me.....from Office Cleaner to Company and Trust Administrator....I'm laughing as I'm
telling you.  Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp? - Page 17 23324 I was never shy, worked in Peacocks, M & S, Accountancy firms, a major Bank , sold photos at dinner dances at all the best Hotels in London to name just a few. I could write a book,!!!!
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