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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 30 Apr - 11:20

cherry1 wrote:Thats a good idea, what about News Topics - Suspicious Deaths


OK, I'll start that later if you haven't started in the meantime!

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Post  cherry1 on Mon 30 Apr - 11:30

would love to start it now but unfortunately need to start work
will check in this evening, presumably David Kelly could go in that section (not sure if we already
have a thread on him or not? I'll try and remember some of the other names, Stephen Milligan would be one, and the three police officers.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 30 Apr - 12:02

cherry1 wrote:would love to start it now but unfortunately need to start work
will check in this evening, presumably David Kelly could go in that section (not sure if we already
have a thread on him or not? I'll try and remember some of the other names, Stephen Milligan would be one, and the three police officers.

I've got a few things to do. I might start with Bin Laden, who appeared to have been bumped off last year, but that was apparently his ninth death!

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Post  Alfiefinn on Mon 30 Apr - 15:08

Sky news online reporting about errors in case with DNA logging.

DNA from at least two unaccounted for people found in Gareth Williams flat. However, errors with DNA meant that one sample on Gareth's hand was from scientist, which wrongly led them to believe a third party had been present in the flat.

Forensic Scientist Ros Hammond said that "DNA can last for weeks, even years"

Interesting, isn't it - more DNA shenanigans.

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Post  Oldartform on Mon 30 Apr - 16:34

If he was trying out a Houdini escape stunt, why choose the bath, why not on a normal floor. Does any escapologist ever try out dangerous stunts totally alone without backup for a rescue if things go wrong?


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Post  matthew on Mon 30 Apr - 16:50

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/30/gareth-williams-suffocation-or-poisoning-inquest?newsfeed=true

The MI6 officer Gareth Williams probably suffocated to death in a locked sports holdall or died from an unknown poison, his inquest heard.

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Post  interested on Mon 30 Apr - 18:54

I don't know a lot about the cases being discussed but the reference to a sports holdall reminds me of the infamous blue tennis bag.

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Post  tanszi on Mon 30 Apr - 20:17

oh interested that it so awful because i started laughing, and i shouldnt because Gareth is dead by circumstances unknown, madeleine has disappeared in circumstances unknown and holdalls feature in each, how inconngrous is that.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 30 Apr - 23:14

I doubt we will ever know the truth of what happened in either holdall - sorry, case.

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Post  margaret on Tue 1 May - 9:53

NBY, true!.

I read the bath was filled with water too to mask the smell of a decomposing body yet that reference has been whooshed clunked. Of course Gareth was murdered and l would hazard a guess they know exactly by whom too.

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Post  the slave on Tue 1 May - 10:05

His line manager should have reported him missing days before he did!! The bloke was a spook for God's sake!
How incompetent ARE MI6?????
This country becomes more of a joke by the day.

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Post  pennylane on Tue 1 May - 10:08

There could be other person(s) involved even in a sex game gone wrong, hence the body ending up in a bag in the bathtub. Not that I'm sure it wasn't a spook hit of course.

Obviously we will never know if SS are involved. Chilling!

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Post  pennylane on Wed 2 May - 11:54

Sky news

'Coroner in inquest into death of spy Garreth Williams says insufficient evidence for unlawful killing verdict, narrative verdict most suitable option.'

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