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Post  Guest on Fri 4 May - 3:14

THIRTY children have gone missing in Portugal since Madeleine McCann disappeared five years ago, official figures reveal.
The grim toll contradicts Portuguese claims her case was unique and abduction was rare.
Madeleine, who would now be nearly nine, was snatched from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3 2007. Since then, 30 youngsters under 18 have vanished. But it also emerged an abduction alert system introduced in 2009 for cops and other law enforcement has NEVER been activated. This week law chiefs in Portugal snubbed a plea by Scotland Yard to reopen Madeleine’s case after a review unearthed 195 new leads.
And yesterday the Portuguese Attorney General Pinto Monteiro said British and Portuguese police weren’t even speaking.
He insisted there had been no formal request for Madeleine’s case to be reopened. When asked if he was having any talks with Brit cops he replied: “No.”
It was also revealed yesterday that details of over 100 calls to Crimestoppers about Madeleine in the days after she vanished were never handed to police. They mostly came from psychics. But Leicestershire cops said they were “over-run” with information.
Details of the calls have finally been handed to Scotland Yard.
Kate, 44, said on yesterday’s fifth anniversary: “Abducted children have been found many years following their disappearance.”
Prayers were said for Madeleine at a Mass in Woolton, Merseyside, where Kate and Gerry married. The couple marked the occasion at home in Rothley, Leicestershire.

Usual rubbish from Lezza, none of it's even connected. One bit jumps right out, though. Leicestershire Police did not pass on information to the Portuguese. Oh, how it must have stuck in her craw to have to write that!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4296421/30-kids-lost-in-Portugal-since-Maddie-went-missing.html

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Post  quickfingers on Fri 4 May - 8:31

So are there 30 abducted children? Maybe abducted by one of their parents or run away but I doubt if there have been 30 stranger abductions! I think we might have heard before.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 4 May - 8:36

quickfingers wrote:So are there 30 abducted children? Maybe abducted by one of their parents or run away but I doubt if there have been 30 stranger abductions! I think we might have heard before.

And if it's only 30 in five years that must be way below the figures for the UK.

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Post  fred on Fri 4 May - 8:38

Can she name one child (apart from Rui Pedro) who has gone missing?

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Post  mara thon on Fri 4 May - 8:38

Thirty children have gone missing in Portugal since Madeleine disappeared: Dreadful, but perhaps this camel person should look at UK before slating other countries: Over 100,000 a year, not 30 in five years.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/15177470

Every year more than 100,000 children go missing in the UK - that is one child who disappears every five minutes.

Parents And Children Together (PACT) came up with this figure but the charity Missing People has released a new report suggesting the number could be even higher, at around 150,000.

While the majority are found, some remain missing.

Andrew Gosden, 14, is one of the few who have not been found.

Without warning, he left home in Doncaster on September 14, 2007.

He had £200 of his savings. Later that day he was captured on CCTV at King's Cross station in London but he has not been seen since.







Britain's Missing Children

Go to our interactive map of children missing in the UK




His parents Kevin and Glenys have been to London countless times looking for him.

"I think there's a fair chance that he might not be alive or he's being held against his will," says Glenys.

"You have hope in one hand and grief in the other but every day brings hope that it might be the day that he'll phone or make some contact."

Kevin has found it so difficult to cope with his son's disappearance that he attempted to commit suicide.

"When Andrew went missing, it's that feeling when your children are small, that absolute panic that 'Oh, where have they gone?'







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"It's that panic going on and on, day after day, week after week, month after month."

According to Missing People, young people aged under 18 account for two-thirds of all police missing persons reports and 70% of youngsters reported missing had chosen to disappear.

"Young people go missing for a number of reasons," says Geoff Newiss, director of policy and research at the charity.

"Many run away from home or care, from school, from peer groups. The reasons cross the whole spectrum from bullying to mental health problems to involvement in drugs and alcohol, the cross-section is wide."

In 2000, Nadia Belhaj, then aged 14, skipped school with a friend. Their day out turned into six weeks away.




Glenys and Kevin Gosden


They stole to survive and slept on the streets. Eventually they were recognised by a police officer and taken home.

"I didn't really have a reason, I just up and left," says the 22-year-old from Leigh-on-Sea.

"I didn't plan on staying away so long. I wasn't doing it to be spiteful, I didn't think how my parents were feeling - it was just about me for once."

Missing People is currently working to find around 300 children, a third of those have not been seen for more than a year.

:: The charity Missing People has a 24-hour confidential freefone service on 0500 700 700.

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Post  Chris on Fri 4 May - 8:40

fred wrote:Can she name one child (apart from Rui Pedro) who has gone missing?

As they say statistics can be misused for anything. The fact it is with 30 under 18 years without a breakdown it is pretty meaningless. It could be 29 teenagers who have run away from home.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 4 May - 8:43

mara thon wrote:Thirty children have gone missing in Portugal since Madeleine disappeared: Dreadful, but perhaps this camel person should look at UK before slating other countries: Over 100,000 a year, not 30 in five years.

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/15177470

Every year more than 100,000 children go missing in the UK - that is one child who disappears every five minutes.

Parents And Children Together (PACT) came up with this figure but the charity Missing People has released a new report suggesting the number could be even higher, at around 150,000.

While the majority are found, some remain missing.

Andrew Gosden, 14, is one of the few who have not been found.

Without warning, he left home in Doncaster on September 14, 2007.

He had £200 of his savings. Later that day he was captured on CCTV at King's Cross station in London but he has not been seen since.







Britain's Missing Children

Go to our interactive map of children missing in the UK




His parents Kevin and Glenys have been to London countless times looking for him.

"I think there's a fair chance that he might not be alive or he's being held against his will," says Glenys.

"You have hope in one hand and grief in the other but every day brings hope that it might be the day that he'll phone or make some contact."

Kevin has found it so difficult to cope with his son's disappearance that he attempted to commit suicide.

"When Andrew went missing, it's that feeling when your children are small, that absolute panic that 'Oh, where have they gone?'







Missing Week

Watch the Missing Week series of programmes on Sky Real Lives all this week, on Sky channel 243. Click on the logo for more details.




"It's that panic going on and on, day after day, week after week, month after month."

According to Missing People, young people aged under 18 account for two-thirds of all police missing persons reports and 70% of youngsters reported missing had chosen to disappear.

"Young people go missing for a number of reasons," says Geoff Newiss, director of policy and research at the charity.

"Many run away from home or care, from school, from peer groups. The reasons cross the whole spectrum from bullying to mental health problems to involvement in drugs and alcohol, the cross-section is wide."

In 2000, Nadia Belhaj, then aged 14, skipped school with a friend. Their day out turned into six weeks away.




Glenys and Kevin Gosden


They stole to survive and slept on the streets. Eventually they were recognised by a police officer and taken home.

"I didn't really have a reason, I just up and left," says the 22-year-old from Leigh-on-Sea.

"I didn't plan on staying away so long. I wasn't doing it to be spiteful, I didn't think how my parents were feeling - it was just about me for once."

Missing People is currently working to find around 300 children, a third of those have not been seen for more than a year.

:: The charity Missing People has a 24-hour confidential freefone service on 0500 700 700.

Thanks for that.

I think we need to know what the number 30 represents. How many were abduction by parents? How many were stranger abductions? And if only 30 in five years, that makes Portugal a fairly safe country imo. Perhaps Portuguese people don't leave small children on their own: not like us Brits! As we have been told "most of us have done it." !!

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Post  tigger on Fri 4 May - 9:19

I just posted this on the other topic regarding missing children.


http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet
Re: Missing Children in Portugal



Last 10 years
Country - Portugal
Current age between 0 and 10 years

You get ONE. MBMcC

Repeat for Spain and you get 10 results.
In fact two are duplicates, so 9
Top two are dead, but they can't find the bodies, father already in prison
All the rest have been 'ABDUCTED" by parent., or in one case an aunt.

And this is over the last 10 years.

unquote.

I tried the link but it doesn't work very well for me. Still - the above was researched by a retired DI - so it's more than good enough for me.
(from the topic Missing children in Portugal - jillhavern forum)



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