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Thanks for this report - so it all went away in a puff of smoke!
Corruption carries on a usual then!
Thanks for this report - so it all went away in a puff of smoke!
Corruption carries on a usual then!
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breaking news james murdoch about to be arrested??????
PAPER: POLICE CONSIDER ARREST OF JAMES MURDOCH
November 11th, 2011
James Murdoch
Grilling: Mr Murdoch was questioned for two and a half hours by a Commons select committee on Thursday
Police investigating phone-hacking at the News of the World have recovered a series of ‘bombshell’ emails which they believe takes the inquiry to ‘a new level’.
The emails were among tens of thousands held by the newspaper at a data storage facility in India.
Police are believed to want to question News International chief James Murdoch and former Sun and News of the World editor Rebekah Brooks about their contents.
Discussions have taken place with the Crown Prosecution Service about whether Mr Murdoch should be arrested and interviewed under caution.
Last night it was unclear whether the emails suggest Mr Murdoch and Mrs Brooks were involved in a cover-up of phone-hacking or prove they had knowledge of malpractice at the News of the World, which was closed in July.
Both Mrs Brooks, who has already been arrested in connection with the inquiry and is on police bail, and Mr Murdoch deny any wrongdoing.
The latest twist in the case emerged 24 hours after Mr Murdoch – the son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch – was grilled for two and a half hours on Thursday by a House of Commons select committee.
In a bruising second appearance before the Culture Committee, he insisted he had not learned until recently that the practice of illegally eavesdropping on private phone messages went beyond a single ‘rogue reporter’.
Detectives on Operation Weeting, the Scotland Yard squad investigating phone-hacking, took a detailed note of his comments.
His testimony will be compared to the emerging email evidence in India, before he is interviewed by police.
Last night speculation was growing that the new development could be linked to the large-scale deletion of News of the World emails.
Clive Goodman
GLEN MULCAIRE
In January 2007, the News of the World’s then royal editor, Clive Goodman (left), and private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were jailed for illegally intercepting voicemails
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060569/Hacking-police-bombshell-emails-Now-detectives-want-question-James-Murdoch.html#ixzz1dRbq7J3D
November 11th, 2011
James Murdoch
Grilling: Mr Murdoch was questioned for two and a half hours by a Commons select committee on Thursday
Police investigating phone-hacking at the News of the World have recovered a series of ‘bombshell’ emails which they believe takes the inquiry to ‘a new level’.
The emails were among tens of thousands held by the newspaper at a data storage facility in India.
Police are believed to want to question News International chief James Murdoch and former Sun and News of the World editor Rebekah Brooks about their contents.
Discussions have taken place with the Crown Prosecution Service about whether Mr Murdoch should be arrested and interviewed under caution.
Last night it was unclear whether the emails suggest Mr Murdoch and Mrs Brooks were involved in a cover-up of phone-hacking or prove they had knowledge of malpractice at the News of the World, which was closed in July.
Both Mrs Brooks, who has already been arrested in connection with the inquiry and is on police bail, and Mr Murdoch deny any wrongdoing.
The latest twist in the case emerged 24 hours after Mr Murdoch – the son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch – was grilled for two and a half hours on Thursday by a House of Commons select committee.
In a bruising second appearance before the Culture Committee, he insisted he had not learned until recently that the practice of illegally eavesdropping on private phone messages went beyond a single ‘rogue reporter’.
Detectives on Operation Weeting, the Scotland Yard squad investigating phone-hacking, took a detailed note of his comments.
His testimony will be compared to the emerging email evidence in India, before he is interviewed by police.
Last night speculation was growing that the new development could be linked to the large-scale deletion of News of the World emails.
Clive Goodman
GLEN MULCAIRE
In January 2007, the News of the World’s then royal editor, Clive Goodman (left), and private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were jailed for illegally intercepting voicemails
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060569/Hacking-police-bombshell-emails-Now-detectives-want-question-James-Murdoch.html#ixzz1dRbq7J3D
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Re: Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp?
Angelique wrote:Panda
Thanks for this report - so it all went away in a puff of smoke!
Corruption carries on a usual then!
Yes, because the PCC could not prove that JM knew, they had to giver him the benefit of the doubt, but they know he has lied. Depends what the shareholders know what to make of him, if they are moral he will be demoted, but as long as bskyb is making a profit he will probably stay in his job.
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P'raps this is what Brookes was alluding to when she said something like, 'in a year or so, you'll understand how serious this all is'.... i.e. the closing of the NOTW, laying off staff, her resignation, etc.
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There is no way will any of the Murdoch family be arrested and charged with anything. Arrested maybe, to boost the tabloids daily spew and boost earnings. Charged with anything, NO WAY!! Teflon through and through. British justice makes me ill.
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fred wrote:There is no way will any of the Murdoch family be arrested and charged with anything. Arrested maybe, to boost the tabloids daily spew and boost earnings. Charged with anything, NO WAY!! Teflon through and through. British justice makes me ill.
fred it must great when your at the top of your game because nothing goes against you (Sadam Hussian,Gadaffi) the problem as I see it is the more powerful you are the harder the fall from grace, and this imo is the Murdochs right now, they are right out of flavour, and this is when it gets messy, I dont believe for a minute that the Murdochs are been protected....imo they are finished, and they will be loads of people ready to stab them in the back.....pay back time for a lot of them, and saving their own skin for others I think.
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Lillyofthevalley wrote:fred wrote:There is no way will any of the Murdoch family be arrested and charged with anything. Arrested maybe, to boost the tabloids daily spew and boost earnings. Charged with anything, NO WAY!! Teflon through and through. British justice makes me ill.
fred it must great when your at the top of your game because nothing goes against you (Sadam Hussian,Gadaffi) the problem as I see it is the more powerful you are the harder the fall from grace, and this imo is the Murdochs right now, they are right out of flavour, and this is when it gets messy, I dont believe for a minute that the Murdochs are been protected....imo they are finished, and they will be loads of people ready to stab them in the back.....pay back time for a lot of them, and saving their own skin for others I think.
I hope you are right and I am wrong Lily, it sickens me how the >McCanns have been feted and protected by the British media, fawned over, made into celebs. It isn't right, and it gives me no hope that anyone will be charged or brought to justice. A couple left their 3 children alone night after night, one is missing and the only man who had looked for her, is now in court.
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Somebody just tweeted that he's been lifted and is being held at Paddington Green cop shop. Don't know whether this is actually true but I will post more when I find out.
This has since been whooshed. Not sure what is going on.
This has since been whooshed. Not sure what is going on.
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There is a thread specifically for the Murdochs and Newscorp etc under World News It"s been going for months perhaps for continuity this thread can be moved there? thanks.
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IS IT TRUE THAT JAMES MURDOCH HAS BEEN ARRESTED BY POLICE AND QUESTIONED?
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Re: Is this Armageddon for Murdoch and NewsCorp?
Hacking police find 'bombshell' emails: Now detectives may want to question
James Murdoch
By Stephen Wright
Last updated at 12:36 PM on 12th November 2011
Grilling: Mr Murdoch was questioned for two and a half
hours by a Commons select committee on Thursday
Police investigating phone-hacking at the News
of the World have recovered a series of ‘bombshell’ emails which they believe
takes the inquiry to ‘a new level’.
The emails were among tens of thousands held
by the newspaper at a data storage facility in India.
Police are believed to want to question News
International chief James Murdoch and former Sun and News of the World editor
Rebekah Brooks about their contents.
Discussions have taken place with the Crown
Prosecution Service about whether Mr Murdoch should be arrested and interviewed
under caution.
Last night it was unclear whether the emails
suggest Mr Murdoch and Mrs Brooks were involved in a cover-up of phone-hacking
or prove they had knowledge of malpractice at the News of the World, which was
closed in July.
Both Mrs Brooks, who has already been arrested
in connection with the inquiry and is on police bail, and Mr Murdoch deny any
wrongdoing.
More...
The latest twist in the case emerged 24 hours
after Mr Murdoch – the son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch – was grilled for two
and a half hours on Thursday by a House of Commons select committee.
In a bruising second appearance before the
Culture Committee, he insisted he had not learned until recently that the
practice of illegally eavesdropping on private phone messages went beyond a
single ‘rogue reporter’.
Detectives on Operation Weeting, the Scotland
Yard squad investigating phone-hacking, took a detailed note of his comments.
His testimony will be compared to the emerging
email evidence in India, before he is interviewed by police.
Last night speculation was growing that the
new development could be linked to the large-scale deletion of News of the World
emails.
In January 2007, the News of the World’s then royal
editor, Clive Goodman (left), and private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were
jailed for illegally intercepting voicemails
Three months ago, the technology firm HCL told
the Home Affairs Committee it was aware of the deletion of hundreds of thousands
of emails at the request of News International between April 2010 and July 2011,
but said it did not know of anything untoward behind the requests to delete
them.
HCL said it was not the company responsible
for emails on the News International computer system that are older than a
couple of weeks. It said another unnamed organisation was responsible, but
confirmed it had co-operated with it in deleting material.
It stressed that since it was not the company
that stored News International’s data ‘any allegation that it has deleted
material held on behalf of News International is without
foundation’.
In January 2007, the News of the World’s then
royal editor, Clive Goodman, and private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were jailed
for illegally intercepting voicemails, but News International maintained until
earlier this year that they were acting alone.
While testifying on Thursday, Mr Murdoch was
accused by Labour MP Tom Watson of acting like a ‘mafia boss’ whose company
operated ‘omerta’ – a code of silence to cover up criminal
behaviour.
After Mr Murdoch repeatedly denied being aware
of wrongdoing within the company he has led since 2007, Mr Watson told him: ‘You
must be the first mafia boss in history who didn’t know he was running a
criminal enterprise.’
Mr Murdoch confirmed he had not been detained
for questioning by police, but informed sources say that will change in the
coming weeks. One source told the Mail: ‘It is possible the most shocking
revelations in the phone-hacking scandal are yet to come.’
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James Murdoch
By Stephen Wright
Last updated at 12:36 PM on 12th November 2011
Grilling: Mr Murdoch was questioned for two and a half
hours by a Commons select committee on Thursday
Police investigating phone-hacking at the News
of the World have recovered a series of ‘bombshell’ emails which they believe
takes the inquiry to ‘a new level’.
The emails were among tens of thousands held
by the newspaper at a data storage facility in India.
Police are believed to want to question News
International chief James Murdoch and former Sun and News of the World editor
Rebekah Brooks about their contents.
Discussions have taken place with the Crown
Prosecution Service about whether Mr Murdoch should be arrested and interviewed
under caution.
Last night it was unclear whether the emails
suggest Mr Murdoch and Mrs Brooks were involved in a cover-up of phone-hacking
or prove they had knowledge of malpractice at the News of the World, which was
closed in July.
Both Mrs Brooks, who has already been arrested
in connection with the inquiry and is on police bail, and Mr Murdoch deny any
wrongdoing.
More...
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who is lying? Ex-NotW editor and ex-legal boss come out fighting against former
boss James Murdoch - Don't
call me a Mafia don: James Murdoch denies code of silence over phone-hacking - Day
512 (or so it feels) of the Murdoch phone-hacking inquiry - IN
FULL: James Murdoch back 'in the dock' as he is grilled by MPs over phone
hacking
The latest twist in the case emerged 24 hours
after Mr Murdoch – the son of media mogul Rupert Murdoch – was grilled for two
and a half hours on Thursday by a House of Commons select committee.
In a bruising second appearance before the
Culture Committee, he insisted he had not learned until recently that the
practice of illegally eavesdropping on private phone messages went beyond a
single ‘rogue reporter’.
Detectives on Operation Weeting, the Scotland
Yard squad investigating phone-hacking, took a detailed note of his comments.
His testimony will be compared to the emerging
email evidence in India, before he is interviewed by police.
Last night speculation was growing that the
new development could be linked to the large-scale deletion of News of the World
emails.
In January 2007, the News of the World’s then royal
editor, Clive Goodman (left), and private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were
jailed for illegally intercepting voicemails
Three months ago, the technology firm HCL told
the Home Affairs Committee it was aware of the deletion of hundreds of thousands
of emails at the request of News International between April 2010 and July 2011,
but said it did not know of anything untoward behind the requests to delete
them.
HCL said it was not the company responsible
for emails on the News International computer system that are older than a
couple of weeks. It said another unnamed organisation was responsible, but
confirmed it had co-operated with it in deleting material.
It stressed that since it was not the company
that stored News International’s data ‘any allegation that it has deleted
material held on behalf of News International is without
foundation’.
In January 2007, the News of the World’s then
royal editor, Clive Goodman, and private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were jailed
for illegally intercepting voicemails, but News International maintained until
earlier this year that they were acting alone.
While testifying on Thursday, Mr Murdoch was
accused by Labour MP Tom Watson of acting like a ‘mafia boss’ whose company
operated ‘omerta’ – a code of silence to cover up criminal
behaviour.
After Mr Murdoch repeatedly denied being aware
of wrongdoing within the company he has led since 2007, Mr Watson told him: ‘You
must be the first mafia boss in history who didn’t know he was running a
criminal enterprise.’
Mr Murdoch confirmed he had not been detained
for questioning by police, but informed sources say that will change in the
coming weeks. One source told the Mail: ‘It is possible the most shocking
revelations in the phone-hacking scandal are yet to come.’
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We are not sure yet Badboy. There is a copy of the tweet from Sky here -
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t17774-breaking-news-james-murdoch-about-to-be-arrested
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t17774-breaking-news-james-murdoch-about-to-be-arrested
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Iris, Badboy, the above article is vague about James, but apparently Rebekah has been arrested.!!
Both Mrs Brooks, who has already been arrested
in connection with the inquiry and is on police bail, and Mr Murdoch deny any
wrongdoing. "
Both Mrs Brooks, who has already been arrested
in connection with the inquiry and is on police bail, and Mr Murdoch deny any
wrongdoing. "
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Murdochs are not a mafia – but the family firm is in meltdown
The Murdochs are at war with their soldiers and their empire will soon be consigned to history
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A protester in a James Murdoch mask outside Parliament for Murdoch's grilling by MPs. Photograph: Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images
There are times to push fine detail and finely timed memory losses aside and ask: what makes sense? And thus the fall and fall of the House of Murdoch continues. Young James is so smart, so smooth, such a master of dead bats and – yes! – detail. He's a clever lad. Why, then, did he act so stupidly? And why did those who were supposed to protect him, in loco parentis, do such a lousy job?
We're not talking corporate governance here: we're talking family. Tom Watson may have pushed his mafia metaphor a tad too far at the committee grilling last week, but the family and its faithful, well-remunerated retainers are what matter most. See everything that Rupert has done over the last 20 years as family first and it all begins to fall into place.
Take Les Hinton, the head butler at Wapping Abbey at the time. Did he brief Rupert Murdoch as Clive Goodman went to prison? How could he not have? Murdoch senior is always on the phone. He'd be chatting to editor Andy Coulson just as he'd chatted to News of the World editors down the years. Would Rupert have left his de facto heir to sink or swim in this rancid pool without full briefings and full protection? Of course not.
Take Rebekah Brooks, the tabloid queen waiting to climb the management ladder when young James arrived. She'd been editor of the News of the World; she was editor of the Sun, just a few corridor yards away; Andy Coulson was her former deputy, her pick for the top, her boy. Didn't she see the perils post-hacking? Surely she wouldn't let James fall into the mire.
Or take Colin Myler, the last editor of the News of the World, the Mr Clean chosen to clear up the whole damned mess. Hugely experienced, a previous editor of the Sunday and daily Mirror; an honourable guy who took the fall when a high-profile trial was stopped because people on his staff made mistakes. How did Myler come to Wapping, then? Because, after almost seven years' exile on Murdoch's New York Post, he was the safe pair of hands Rupert chose personally to put things back on track.
And today? Les Hinton is history, dumped from Dow Jones as the family scrabbles after a safe haven. Rebekah is history, too, left with an office, a chauffeur and £1.7m to keep her warm. While Myler is suddenly the enemy, the loyalist inexplicably contradicting James about what James was told and siding with Tom Crone, the paper's equally suddenly reviled lawyer.
Does any of this make the remotest human sense? If some revered TV scriptwriter (say Peter Morgan) wrote a series about newspaper life in which nobody gossiped, nobody got drunk, nobody told anyone anything, he'd be laughed out of the studio. The entire farrago doesn't hold for a second. With Scotland Yard knee-deep in unread emails, there's nil chance of that unsteady state ending any decade soon. Proof – in any bewigged form – will probably only emerge much later: but proof, in a thumbs-up or -down way, is commodiously available already. An over-protected fool or a desperate man cornered? It's a sad, sad choice, but amounts to much the same thing either way. Protectors didn't protect. Instead, they were jettisoned one by one.
And perhaps the saddest – nay, tragic – explanation of what went on is also the most benign. James wasn't interested in tabloid blunders, or even playing executive chairman to them. He loved digital, TV, the future. He was bored, bored, bored by lawyers and their letters. His father, the dad who must be obeyed, had made him serve his time; but his mind kept wandering away to the fields he loved.
There's the tragedy for the son and the family, but worst of all for Rupert. Those who didn't quite believe it in the summer must surely acknowledge it now: James Murdoch can never sit at his father's desk. The whole succession scenario is bust. The Murdoch hegemony stops here. No sentient shareholder is going to let the family run things hands-on any longer. Just sit back and cash the dividends.
There may be more rumours about a Sun on Sunday come the dawn of 2012, but forget them. We can't even be sure there'll be a Sun if James's readiness to shut it (should more hacking be discovered) is tested. There won't be any clear, calm, imminent moment when, all passion spent, the Bun seems wholesome again. Trinity Mirror, its profits bulwarked by the greatest ever stroke of luck, can carry on smiling. The murk of 2011 will just linger on (oozing into view every time Tom Watson mentions a new private eye).
Those who like strong medicine and stronger penalties against malfeasance may care to count the payback thus far. For Murdoch: no heir, no News of the World, some $90m (£56m) gone, a reputation and an influence lost, a family at war. For James: no glowing future. For many of the rest of the gang: no jobs and possibly no freedom either. Retribution doesn't come crueller than this. Hacking can damage your health, wealth, your nearest and dearest. Hacking has sundered the biggest media empire in the globe: and many things, including Wapping and, less joyously, the papers that remain, can never be quite the same again.
■ The News of the World may be dead and buried, but a dogged Max Mosley is still trying to drive a stake through its heart. About 3,000 copies of the Nazi orgy story that incensed him circulated in France so, three years after the event, he went to Paris, launched another privacy case and (last week) won. Triumph? Only up to a point. The court awarded €32,000 in all (€10,000 as a state fine, €7,000 (£27,000) as Max's damages and the rest as costs). That doesn't sound much, sniffed Britain's finest media eagles, barely worth putting on a wig and gown for in the Strand. His French lawyer thought Max had done pretty well – but the tariff, by Strand standards, is low, low, low. Whether it's under French law or the European Convention on Human Rights, you can make a point over the Channel, if you must: but you won't make a mint.
The Murdochs are at war with their soldiers and their empire will soon be consigned to history
- Peter Preston
- The Observer, Sunday 13 November 2011
- Article history
A protester in a James Murdoch mask outside Parliament for Murdoch's grilling by MPs. Photograph: Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images
There are times to push fine detail and finely timed memory losses aside and ask: what makes sense? And thus the fall and fall of the House of Murdoch continues. Young James is so smart, so smooth, such a master of dead bats and – yes! – detail. He's a clever lad. Why, then, did he act so stupidly? And why did those who were supposed to protect him, in loco parentis, do such a lousy job?
We're not talking corporate governance here: we're talking family. Tom Watson may have pushed his mafia metaphor a tad too far at the committee grilling last week, but the family and its faithful, well-remunerated retainers are what matter most. See everything that Rupert has done over the last 20 years as family first and it all begins to fall into place.
Take Les Hinton, the head butler at Wapping Abbey at the time. Did he brief Rupert Murdoch as Clive Goodman went to prison? How could he not have? Murdoch senior is always on the phone. He'd be chatting to editor Andy Coulson just as he'd chatted to News of the World editors down the years. Would Rupert have left his de facto heir to sink or swim in this rancid pool without full briefings and full protection? Of course not.
Take Rebekah Brooks, the tabloid queen waiting to climb the management ladder when young James arrived. She'd been editor of the News of the World; she was editor of the Sun, just a few corridor yards away; Andy Coulson was her former deputy, her pick for the top, her boy. Didn't she see the perils post-hacking? Surely she wouldn't let James fall into the mire.
Or take Colin Myler, the last editor of the News of the World, the Mr Clean chosen to clear up the whole damned mess. Hugely experienced, a previous editor of the Sunday and daily Mirror; an honourable guy who took the fall when a high-profile trial was stopped because people on his staff made mistakes. How did Myler come to Wapping, then? Because, after almost seven years' exile on Murdoch's New York Post, he was the safe pair of hands Rupert chose personally to put things back on track.
And today? Les Hinton is history, dumped from Dow Jones as the family scrabbles after a safe haven. Rebekah is history, too, left with an office, a chauffeur and £1.7m to keep her warm. While Myler is suddenly the enemy, the loyalist inexplicably contradicting James about what James was told and siding with Tom Crone, the paper's equally suddenly reviled lawyer.
Does any of this make the remotest human sense? If some revered TV scriptwriter (say Peter Morgan) wrote a series about newspaper life in which nobody gossiped, nobody got drunk, nobody told anyone anything, he'd be laughed out of the studio. The entire farrago doesn't hold for a second. With Scotland Yard knee-deep in unread emails, there's nil chance of that unsteady state ending any decade soon. Proof – in any bewigged form – will probably only emerge much later: but proof, in a thumbs-up or -down way, is commodiously available already. An over-protected fool or a desperate man cornered? It's a sad, sad choice, but amounts to much the same thing either way. Protectors didn't protect. Instead, they were jettisoned one by one.
And perhaps the saddest – nay, tragic – explanation of what went on is also the most benign. James wasn't interested in tabloid blunders, or even playing executive chairman to them. He loved digital, TV, the future. He was bored, bored, bored by lawyers and their letters. His father, the dad who must be obeyed, had made him serve his time; but his mind kept wandering away to the fields he loved.
There's the tragedy for the son and the family, but worst of all for Rupert. Those who didn't quite believe it in the summer must surely acknowledge it now: James Murdoch can never sit at his father's desk. The whole succession scenario is bust. The Murdoch hegemony stops here. No sentient shareholder is going to let the family run things hands-on any longer. Just sit back and cash the dividends.
There may be more rumours about a Sun on Sunday come the dawn of 2012, but forget them. We can't even be sure there'll be a Sun if James's readiness to shut it (should more hacking be discovered) is tested. There won't be any clear, calm, imminent moment when, all passion spent, the Bun seems wholesome again. Trinity Mirror, its profits bulwarked by the greatest ever stroke of luck, can carry on smiling. The murk of 2011 will just linger on (oozing into view every time Tom Watson mentions a new private eye).
Those who like strong medicine and stronger penalties against malfeasance may care to count the payback thus far. For Murdoch: no heir, no News of the World, some $90m (£56m) gone, a reputation and an influence lost, a family at war. For James: no glowing future. For many of the rest of the gang: no jobs and possibly no freedom either. Retribution doesn't come crueller than this. Hacking can damage your health, wealth, your nearest and dearest. Hacking has sundered the biggest media empire in the globe: and many things, including Wapping and, less joyously, the papers that remain, can never be quite the same again.
■ The News of the World may be dead and buried, but a dogged Max Mosley is still trying to drive a stake through its heart. About 3,000 copies of the Nazi orgy story that incensed him circulated in France so, three years after the event, he went to Paris, launched another privacy case and (last week) won. Triumph? Only up to a point. The court awarded €32,000 in all (€10,000 as a state fine, €7,000 (£27,000) as Max's damages and the rest as costs). That doesn't sound much, sniffed Britain's finest media eagles, barely worth putting on a wig and gown for in the Strand. His French lawyer thought Max had done pretty well – but the tariff, by Strand standards, is low, low, low. Whether it's under French law or the European Convention on Human Rights, you can make a point over the Channel, if you must: but you won't make a mint.
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IT APPEARS THAT REPORTS ON SKY THAT JAMES MURDOCH HAD BEEN ARRESTED ARE UNTRUE,SKY SAID NEWS FEED WAS HACKED.
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Badboy wrote:IT APPEARS THAT REPORTS ON SKY THAT JAMES MURDOCH HAD BEEN ARRESTED ARE UNTRUE,SKY SAID NEWS FEED WAS HACKED.
Oh, what a shame. I was hoping it was a "spoiler".
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28 NEWS OF THE WORLD REPORTERS WERE INVOLVED IN HACKING,ALSO OTHER NEWSPAPERS MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN HACKING.
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Badboy wrote:28 NEWS OF THE WORLD REPORTERS WERE INVOLVED IN HACKING,ALSO OTHER NEWSPAPERS MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN HACKING.
The Sun we already know about but the Daily Mirror is also named. If there is any more news on any paper other than the Sun I will start a new thread to keep this for Newscorp
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bskyb backs James Murdoch to remain Chairman
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Mark Kleinman
November 17, 2011 11:15 PM
Martin Gilbert, the boss of Aberdeen Asset Management and one of
the City’s most prominent figures, is poised to become a director of
BSkyB as the company attempts to reassure independent shareholders about
the composition of its board.
I have learned that the intention
to appoint Gilbert and another unnamed non-executive director is
expected to be announced in the coming days, and conceivably as soon as
tomorrow.
The recruitment of the new directors will come ahead of
what may be a fractious annual meeting on November 29, at which some
shareholders are expected to express a desire to see a new chairman
installed in place of James Murdoch.
To be clear, the two new
non-executives would not join the board until after the AGM and it’s
possible that their appointment won’t be announced until that day.
Nicholas
Ferguson, BSkyB’s deputy chairman, has resisted the calls from some
shareholder groups for additional governance changes, potentially
including Murdoch’s departure. Last week the board of the pay-TV,
broadband and telephony company, which owns Sky News, sent a letter to
leading investors in which it backed Murdoch’s continued tenure as
chairman. BSkyB declined to comment tonight.
Gilbert and the other
new director will replace Allan Leighton, the former Royal Mail
chairman, and David Evans, the former boss of Crown Media Holdings and a
one-time executive at News Corporation, the New York-listed media
empire which owns just over 39 per cent of BSkyB.
BSkyB announced in the summer that it would begin the process of overhauling the board later in the year.
To
recap the events of a tumultuous year, News Corp in July withdrew a bid
for the majority stake in BSkyB that it doesn’t own in the days
following the revelation that the mobile phone of the murdered
schoolgirl Milly Dowler had been hacked on behalf of News of the World
journalists.
The Sunday tabloid was shut down at Murdoch’s
instigation, but the continuing torrent of revelations has prompted some
BSkyB investors to question both his independence and whether he has
sufficient time to commit to his chairmanship of the FTSE-100 company
while he also chairs News International and occupies one of the top jobs
at News Corp.
Last week, Murdoch appeared in front of a Commons
select committee for the second time to answer questions about his
knowledge of phone hacking at News International. He suggested that the
former News of the World editor, Colin Myler, and Tom Crone, the
newspaper’s legal director, had misled parliament in their testimony, a
claim they deny.
Directors of BSkyB say they have seen no evidence that the hacking scandal has had an impact on customers’ perceptions of Sky.
In last week’s letter sent to major outside shareholders, Ferguson said:
“We
have seen no effect on sales, customers or suppliers over the past five
months. The recent results substantiate that. We have seen no effect on
the share price, which has materially outperformed the peer group and
the FTSE since the bid ended. Finally, we have seen no negative effect
internally.”
Ferguson went on to detail strong support for
Murdoch’s chairmanship, arguing that he “has assured the board of his
availability and Jeremy Darroch [BSkyB chief executive] confirms that
since the end of the bid, James has been fully available as required”.
People
close to BSkyB say the departures of Evans and Leighton are likely to
be followed in the next year or so by the retirement of other
long-serving non-executive directors. Both Evans and Leighton have sat
on the board for more than nine years, meaning that they aren’t now
deemed to be independent under the corporate governance code to which
big public companies are supposed to adhere.
To be clear, both were asked to stay on the board by Ferguson when News Corp made its takeover approach to BSkyB in June 2010.
Gilbert
has presided over the expansion of one of the City’s most successful
fund managers, with Aberdeen swallowing a number of smaller rivals,
including the fund management arms of Credit Suisse and Royal Bank of
Scotland, in recent years.
His past is not without controversy,
however: Aberdeen was almost put out of business nearly a decade ago by
the split capital investment trust crisis, which rocked some of
Britain’s largest asset managers.
Gilbert is now chairman of
FirstGroup, the transport operator, and sits on the board of Aberdeen
Football Club. He was unavailable for comment tonight.
sky news
November 17, 2011 11:15 PM
Martin Gilbert, the boss of Aberdeen Asset Management and one of
the City’s most prominent figures, is poised to become a director of
BSkyB as the company attempts to reassure independent shareholders about
the composition of its board.
I have learned that the intention
to appoint Gilbert and another unnamed non-executive director is
expected to be announced in the coming days, and conceivably as soon as
tomorrow.
The recruitment of the new directors will come ahead of
what may be a fractious annual meeting on November 29, at which some
shareholders are expected to express a desire to see a new chairman
installed in place of James Murdoch.
To be clear, the two new
non-executives would not join the board until after the AGM and it’s
possible that their appointment won’t be announced until that day.
Nicholas
Ferguson, BSkyB’s deputy chairman, has resisted the calls from some
shareholder groups for additional governance changes, potentially
including Murdoch’s departure. Last week the board of the pay-TV,
broadband and telephony company, which owns Sky News, sent a letter to
leading investors in which it backed Murdoch’s continued tenure as
chairman. BSkyB declined to comment tonight.
Gilbert and the other
new director will replace Allan Leighton, the former Royal Mail
chairman, and David Evans, the former boss of Crown Media Holdings and a
one-time executive at News Corporation, the New York-listed media
empire which owns just over 39 per cent of BSkyB.
BSkyB announced in the summer that it would begin the process of overhauling the board later in the year.
To
recap the events of a tumultuous year, News Corp in July withdrew a bid
for the majority stake in BSkyB that it doesn’t own in the days
following the revelation that the mobile phone of the murdered
schoolgirl Milly Dowler had been hacked on behalf of News of the World
journalists.
The Sunday tabloid was shut down at Murdoch’s
instigation, but the continuing torrent of revelations has prompted some
BSkyB investors to question both his independence and whether he has
sufficient time to commit to his chairmanship of the FTSE-100 company
while he also chairs News International and occupies one of the top jobs
at News Corp.
Last week, Murdoch appeared in front of a Commons
select committee for the second time to answer questions about his
knowledge of phone hacking at News International. He suggested that the
former News of the World editor, Colin Myler, and Tom Crone, the
newspaper’s legal director, had misled parliament in their testimony, a
claim they deny.
Directors of BSkyB say they have seen no evidence that the hacking scandal has had an impact on customers’ perceptions of Sky.
In last week’s letter sent to major outside shareholders, Ferguson said:
“We
have seen no effect on sales, customers or suppliers over the past five
months. The recent results substantiate that. We have seen no effect on
the share price, which has materially outperformed the peer group and
the FTSE since the bid ended. Finally, we have seen no negative effect
internally.”
Ferguson went on to detail strong support for
Murdoch’s chairmanship, arguing that he “has assured the board of his
availability and Jeremy Darroch [BSkyB chief executive] confirms that
since the end of the bid, James has been fully available as required”.
People
close to BSkyB say the departures of Evans and Leighton are likely to
be followed in the next year or so by the retirement of other
long-serving non-executive directors. Both Evans and Leighton have sat
on the board for more than nine years, meaning that they aren’t now
deemed to be independent under the corporate governance code to which
big public companies are supposed to adhere.
To be clear, both were asked to stay on the board by Ferguson when News Corp made its takeover approach to BSkyB in June 2010.
Gilbert
has presided over the expansion of one of the City’s most successful
fund managers, with Aberdeen swallowing a number of smaller rivals,
including the fund management arms of Credit Suisse and Royal Bank of
Scotland, in recent years.
His past is not without controversy,
however: Aberdeen was almost put out of business nearly a decade ago by
the split capital investment trust crisis, which rocked some of
Britain’s largest asset managers.
Gilbert is now chairman of
FirstGroup, the transport operator, and sits on the board of Aberdeen
Football Club. He was unavailable for comment tonight.
sky news
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MAIL ON SUNDAY HAS BEEN ACCUSED BY HUGH GRANT OF HACKING.
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JAMES MURDOCH HAS RESIGNED AS DIRECTOR OF SOME OF HIS BRITISH NEWSPAPER.
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NEWSPAPER EMPLOYED HACKERS GOT INTO PETER HAIN'S COMPUTER WHEN HE WAS DEFENCE OR NI SECRETARY GAINING ACCESS TO OFFICIAL/DEFENCE SECRETS.
ITS SEEMS ENDANGERING NATIONAL SECURITY IS NOT TOO LOW FOR NEWSPAPERS.
ITS SEEMS ENDANGERING NATIONAL SECURITY IS NOT TOO LOW FOR NEWSPAPERS.
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SY has said 800 people were victims of phone hacking
8:20pm UK, Saturday December 10, 2011
Tom Parmenter, Sky News correspondent
Scotland Yard has said around 800 people were victims of phone hacking by the News Of The World (NOTW).
The head of Operation Weeting, the inquiry into hacking by the
newspaper, said she was confident officers had contacted and met all of
those affected.
Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers told The Times another 1,200
people have been in contact with the inquiry but they are not believed
to have been hacked.
Many of the victims were named in notebooks seized from the private detective Glenn Mulcaire, who was hired by the NOTW.
Thousands more people will be contacted, but it is thought that
because of the lack of personal information about them, they are
unlikely to have been hacked.
A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "Operation Weeting has been in
contact with or been contacted by 2,037 people, of which in the region
of 803 are 'victims', whose names have appeared in the material."
The NOTW closed in July after 168 years and the scandal prompted the Leveson Inquiry into the ethics and conduct of the press.
:: Read more on the Leveson Inquiry
Metropolitan Police commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson and assistant
commissioner John Yates resigned following allegations about links
between the force and News International.
It was known that some 1,800 people had come forward to express fears that they may have been hacked.
Tom Parmenter, Sky News correspondent
Scotland Yard has said around 800 people were victims of phone hacking by the News Of The World (NOTW).
The head of Operation Weeting, the inquiry into hacking by the
newspaper, said she was confident officers had contacted and met all of
those affected.
Deputy Assistant Commissioner Sue Akers told The Times another 1,200
people have been in contact with the inquiry but they are not believed
to have been hacked.
Many of the victims were named in notebooks seized from the private detective Glenn Mulcaire, who was hired by the NOTW.
Thousands more people will be contacted, but it is thought that
because of the lack of personal information about them, they are
unlikely to have been hacked.
A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "Operation Weeting has been in
contact with or been contacted by 2,037 people, of which in the region
of 803 are 'victims', whose names have appeared in the material."
The NOTW closed in July after 168 years and the scandal prompted the Leveson Inquiry into the ethics and conduct of the press.
:: Read more on the Leveson Inquiry
Metropolitan Police commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson and assistant
commissioner John Yates resigned following allegations about links
between the force and News International.
It was known that some 1,800 people had come forward to express fears that they may have been hacked.
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As the world watches Brussels, Cameron finally recalls Murdoch meeting
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/as-the-world-watches-brussels-cameron-finally-recalls-murdoch-meeting-6275135.html
David Cameron had a private meeting with Rupert Murdoch at a time when the media mogul was bidding to take 100 per cent control of Sky television, the Cabinet Office disclosed last night.
The meeting took place in July last year – 11 months before Mr Murdoch finally obtained the go-ahead to buy the 60 per cent of Sky that he did not own – an ambition he has since put on hold while his media empire is engulfed in the phone-hacking scandal.
It was included as an "addendum" to a list of the Prime Minister's meetings with outside organisations covering the second quarter of this year, which the Cabinet Office published on its website at around 6pm yesterday, when it was likely to attract minimal publicity.
There was no explanation offered as to why a meeting that took place 17 months ago has only just been made public, but it was apparently a mistake caused by information not being passed on through different parts of the civil service. Though the document does not say where the meeting took place, it is thought to have been in New York, during Mr Cameron's first prime ministerial visit to the USA.
At that time, media ownership was the responsibility of the Business Secretary, Vince Cable, who was likely to oppose Mr Murdoch's ambition to become the sole owner of Sky. Responsibility for the Sky was bid was taken out of Mr Cable's hands in December, after he was recorded boasting to undercover reporters posing as constituents that he had "declared war" on Mr Murdoch. Almost all other major media organisations opposed the Murdoch bid.
Responsibility was passed to the Culture Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, who ruled in June that the bid could go ahead under certain conditions – though it collapsed in July as the Murdoch empire became engulfed in the hacking scandal.
The documents released by the Cabinet Office yesterday give the dates of other meetings between Mr Cameron and executives of Mr Murdoch's News Corporation or its UK subsidiaries between April and June 2011.
He met James Harding, editor of The Times, twice for "general discussion" in April and June 2011, and Dominic Mohan, editor of The Sun, once, in May, again for "general discussion". The Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg, also met Mr Harding in April for the same stated reason.
The Prime Minister and the Home Secretary, Theresa May, were guests at the News International summer party and the Prime Minister was also at The Times CEO summit in June.
Mr Cameron also saw Murdoch MacLennan, chief executive of the Telegraph Media Group, and Tony Gallagher, editor of the Daily Telegraph in April, along with Richard Desmond and Hugh Whittow, owner and editor of the Daily Express.
Mr Clegg met Harding in April 2011 for "general discussion", his only News International meeting in the period.
The Home Office revealed last night that Mrs May met Rebekah Brooks, then the chief executive of News International, in June 2011, to discuss "women in senior positions" – just a month before Brooks resigned when it was revealed that the News of the World had hacked the mobile phone of the missing teenager, Milly Dowler.
David Cameron had a private meeting with Rupert Murdoch at a time when the media mogul was bidding to take 100 per cent control of Sky television, the Cabinet Office disclosed last night.
The meeting took place in July last year – 11 months before Mr Murdoch finally obtained the go-ahead to buy the 60 per cent of Sky that he did not own – an ambition he has since put on hold while his media empire is engulfed in the phone-hacking scandal.
It was included as an "addendum" to a list of the Prime Minister's meetings with outside organisations covering the second quarter of this year, which the Cabinet Office published on its website at around 6pm yesterday, when it was likely to attract minimal publicity.
There was no explanation offered as to why a meeting that took place 17 months ago has only just been made public, but it was apparently a mistake caused by information not being passed on through different parts of the civil service. Though the document does not say where the meeting took place, it is thought to have been in New York, during Mr Cameron's first prime ministerial visit to the USA.
At that time, media ownership was the responsibility of the Business Secretary, Vince Cable, who was likely to oppose Mr Murdoch's ambition to become the sole owner of Sky. Responsibility for the Sky was bid was taken out of Mr Cable's hands in December, after he was recorded boasting to undercover reporters posing as constituents that he had "declared war" on Mr Murdoch. Almost all other major media organisations opposed the Murdoch bid.
Responsibility was passed to the Culture Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, who ruled in June that the bid could go ahead under certain conditions – though it collapsed in July as the Murdoch empire became engulfed in the hacking scandal.
The documents released by the Cabinet Office yesterday give the dates of other meetings between Mr Cameron and executives of Mr Murdoch's News Corporation or its UK subsidiaries between April and June 2011.
He met James Harding, editor of The Times, twice for "general discussion" in April and June 2011, and Dominic Mohan, editor of The Sun, once, in May, again for "general discussion". The Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg, also met Mr Harding in April for the same stated reason.
The Prime Minister and the Home Secretary, Theresa May, were guests at the News International summer party and the Prime Minister was also at The Times CEO summit in June.
Mr Cameron also saw Murdoch MacLennan, chief executive of the Telegraph Media Group, and Tony Gallagher, editor of the Daily Telegraph in April, along with Richard Desmond and Hugh Whittow, owner and editor of the Daily Express.
Mr Clegg met Harding in April 2011 for "general discussion", his only News International meeting in the period.
The Home Office revealed last night that Mrs May met Rebekah Brooks, then the chief executive of News International, in June 2011, to discuss "women in senior positions" – just a month before Brooks resigned when it was revealed that the News of the World had hacked the mobile phone of the missing teenager, Milly Dowler.
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