What Hope Now

snowflake wrote:

Iris wrote:

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:We all hope she will be found - preferably alive and well.

And, if Prayer comforts you, that's great.

Shame it doesn't stop bad things like this happening, though.

Confused now.

How can you hope she will be found?

What a horrible thing to say, of course we would all like to see her found. I just don't think it's a very realistic ambition, seeing as she's probably been dead since 2007.

Ive never said anyting horible on here.



You all post all thetimeabout how her mother nad father havedisposedof her body.
how can you think shewill be found when you post all thetime abouthow sheis dead and how they disposedof her.

not me thats horrible.

Snowflake, please cut out the gross generalisations. We do not post all the time about anything, never mind that her parents disposed of her.

You may want to believe that Madeleine is alive and well and can be found. I am quite sure that most of us here would absolutely love that to be the outcome. However, since there was never any solid evidence that she was abducted and no credible sightings in five years, it is reasonable to assume that Madeleine is dead. If she had been taken by a paedo ring, she would not have lasted very long at all, I'm afraid.

Now, please keep your accusations to yourself about what you think people here post all the time. It is a gross generalisation and totally untrue.

I've had an almost five year 'think' about Madeleine and the logical part of my brain tells me she has been dead for almost five years and that her parents (and probably others) know exactly how and under what circumstances she died. It is a pity that those who should have loved her the most have not as yet come forward and assisted law enforcement in the recovery of her little body so that she may truly rest in peace.

interested

Thats what is the saddest part of this case the ones that loved her could have done the most, instead of the least!!

What's 'of' or 'off' got to do with anything .


So it's 'nasty' to think what I think....

Snowflake think what you want to think....I have read the files and I can add that I came to my conclusion WAY before the files were released that Madeleine won't be coming back alive ...that is the conclusion off the files and my conclusion...it's not yours...so be it.

Autumn wrote:

snowflake wrote:

Autumn wrote:Snowflake I don't understand your response to TEIN's post. It goes without saying that all of us would wish, by some miracle, that Madeleine was found safe and well. Should she be dead, which is what I believe, do you hope that her remains will be found and that she may one day have a burial place where she can be laid to rest?

You all post all thetime about how she is dead and how her body was disposed.
How can you also beleive that she can be alive as i hope andpray she is.
thats why im confused.

'Yawn' ..... still waiting for an answer Snowflake.

now thats rude to say "yawn" dont you think so?

If she is dead then i hope she will be found and laid to restx

And that snowflake is the hope off all off us.

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:We all hope she will be found - preferably alive and well.

And, if Prayer comforts you, that's great.

Shame it doesn't stop bad things like this happening, though.

Confused now.

How can you hope she will be found?

Eh? Doesn't everybody hope she will be found? I'm afraid you've lost me there.

Do you think there are people who hope she won't be found?

kitti wrote:What's 'of' or 'off' got to do with anything .


So it's 'nasty' to think what I think....

Snowflake think what you want to think....I have read the files and I can add that I came to my conclusion WAY before the files were realised that Madeleine won't be coming back alive ...that is the conclusion off the files and my conclusion...it's not yours...so be it.

same asmy poor spelling which you mentioned first i beleive.
and my saying nasty was to your being nasty mentioning my poor spelling first, so you dont know when to use of or off , so much the same.
i still hope she is alive, you dont........

The End Is Nigh wrote:

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:We all hope she will be found - preferably alive and well.

And, if Prayer comforts you, that's great.

Shame it doesn't stop bad things like this happening, though.

Confused now.

How can you hope she will be found?

Eh? Doesn't everybody hope she will be found? I'm afraid you've lost me there.

Do you think there are people who hope she won't be found?

So you hope she will be found alive?

Iris wrote:

snowflake wrote:

Iris wrote:So do we, if all you can do is abuse your fellow posters.

and you telling me to get off my high horse isnt abuse.guess that was a pleasantry.

With your sanctimonious attitude and your fake hurt, you should be grateful that I am talking to you at all.

I am very grateful.

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:We all hope she will be found - preferably alive and well.

And, if Prayer comforts you, that's great.

Shame it doesn't stop bad things like this happening, though.

Confused now.

How can you hope she will be found?

Eh? Doesn't everybody hope she will be found? I'm afraid you've lost me there.

Do you think there are people who hope she won't be found?

So you hope she will be found alive?

Snowflake, haven't enough of us told you that we would dearly love that she be found alive, but there is very little to indicate that she will be. Now what was this topic about?

Leaves on the line or the wrong type of snow is all it takes to stop the trains from running and it seems it only takes one snowflake to derail a thread. interesting to see the point at which it started.

kitti wrote:And that snowflake is the hope off all off us.

That she is found alive?

AnnaEsse wrote:

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:We all hope she will be found - preferably alive and well.

And, if Prayer comforts you, that's great.

Shame it doesn't stop bad things like this happening, though.

Confused now.

How can you hope she will be found?

Eh? Doesn't everybody hope she will be found? I'm afraid you've lost me there.

Do you think there are people who hope she won't be found?

So you hope she will be found alive?

Snowflake, haven't enough of us told you that we would dearly love that she be found alive, but there is very little to indicate that she will be. Now what was this topic about?

HOPE x

margaret wrote:
I think it's obvious SY are keeping the mcs out of the loop, and that can only be good news.

Here you go T4two. Back on track. Woo hoo.

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:

snowflake wrote:

The End Is Nigh wrote:We all hope she will be found - preferably alive and well.

And, if Prayer comforts you, that's great.

Shame it doesn't stop bad things like this happening, though.

Confused now.

How can you hope she will be found?

Eh? Doesn't everybody hope she will be found? I'm afraid you've lost me there.

Do you think there are people who hope she won't be found?

So you hope she will be found alive?

Obviously so. But it is extremely unlikely, sadly.

Can I ask why you appear to be suggesting that people, anybody at all, would not wish this tragic young girl to be found fit and well? I've never heard anything so preposterous in all my 55 years.

snowflake wrote:

kitti wrote:What's 'of' or 'off' got to do with anything .


So it's 'nasty' to think what I think....

Snowflake think what you want to think....I have read the files and I can add that I came to my conclusion WAY before the files were realised that Madeleine won't be coming back alive ...that is the conclusion off the files and my conclusion...it's not yours...so be it.

same asmy poor spelling which you mentioned first i beleive.
and my saying nasty was to your being nasty mentioning my poor spelling first, so you dont know when to use of or off , so much the same.
i still hope she is alive, you dont........

So, what do you want? A medal? You hope she's alive. OK. Most of us would love to be shown some kind of evidence that would lead to that hope. Do you have any? What evidence gives rise to your continued hope? That she hasn't been found dead? What? And is your hope a belief that she will be or just hope founded on very little? What is your hope founded on? Give us a few reasons to be hopeful!

Ae you bored snowflake or is there nothing on tv....

Now let us all say this ONE MORE TIME just for you snowflake..


We ..being the forum ..wish with all our hearts that she would be found alive BUT the dogs..you know ...woof woofy things with 4 legs have taken that hope away from us...it's not there fault they smelt a cadaver, that's there job but they DID so therefore HOPE off finding her Alive have diminished and the fact that the dogs have NEVER been wrong has pretty well taken away any hope off finding dear little Madeleine alive .....off course that doesn't stop you from having hope.

I think Margaret made a good point, which appears to be getting overlooked. The new book is supposed to have an update with the details of the SY investigation, right? That implies that SY are keeping the McCanns up to speed with what's happening. But are they really, or is this just TM spin again? I don't for one nanosecond believe that SY are telling TM everything as they go along. There would be too much of a public outcry at a wasted £3m, for one thing.

It was also tweeted by someone that if the book is scheduled for Spring, and it's about the on-going investigation and review, then clearly even the McCanns don't expect Maddie to be found before then. What's happened to their hope, might I ask, as even they seem pretty confident that she won't be found any time soon.

kitti wrote:Ae you bored snowflake or is there nothing on tv....

Now let us all say this ONE MORE TIME just for you snowflake..


We ..being the forum ..wish with all our hearts that she would be found alive BUT the dogs..you know ...woof woofy things with 4 legs have taken that hope away from us...it's not there fault they smelt a cadaver, that's there job but they DID so therefore HOPE off finding her Alive have diminished and the fact that the dogs have NEVER been wrong has pretty well taken away any hope off finding dear little Madeleine alive .....off course that doesn't stop you from having hope.

i'm never bored, very selective about my television viewing and yes kitti i will continue to have hope x

Iris wrote:

margaret wrote:
I think it's obvious SY are keeping the mcs out of the loop, and that can only be good news.

Here you go T4two. Back on track. Woo hoo.

I too cannot imagine for one moment that SY would be updating the McCanns on a daily, weekly or even monthly basis. That said............ surely every time TM 'spin' the fact that they are being informed of SY's movements they must realise this will be noted by SY. Now I don't expect SY to come out and deny the fact they are passing on information to the McCanns - but it must be a huge Red Flag to SY and cannot be doing TM any favours.

Can anyone tell me their thoughts on why TM would keep 'spinning' stories when those in the know (SY) must realise there has to be an ulterior motive.................... I can't see how TM think this is doing their cause any good.............. surely it must be doing the opposite .................. So what is their advantage in 'spinning' all these stories??...................

AnnaEsse wrote:

snowflake wrote:

kitti wrote:What's 'of' or 'off' got to do with anything .


So it's 'nasty' to think what I think....

Snowflake think what you want to think....I have read the files and I can add that I came to my conclusion WAY before the files were realised that Madeleine won't be coming back alive ...that is the conclusion off the files and my conclusion...it's not yours...so be it.

same asmy poor spelling which you mentioned first i beleive.
and my saying nasty was to your being nasty mentioning my poor spelling first, so you dont know when to use of or off , so much the same.
i still hope she is alive, you dont........

So, what do you want? A medal? You hope she's alive. OK. Most of us would love to be shown some kind of evidence that would lead to that hope. Do you have any? What evidence gives rise to your continued hope? That she hasn't been found dead? What? And is your hope a belief that she will be or just hope founded on very little? What is your hope founded on? Give us a few reasons to be hopeful!

no medal required.
my hope is based on the fact that until now and to this present moment and under any semblance of justice there is no absolute proof that she is dead and until there is i will continue to HOPE x

Somebody also tweeted that this horrible, childish, petty press release about Dr Amaral's £300k was spite, or revenge, after seeing that picture of him with Pat Brown. TBH it would not surprise me at all.

Yes Iris and Margaret good point and reminds us of when Gerry was planning an event in the early days to commemorate Madeleine's disappearance to take place the following year. Clearly he didn't think she would be found.

Iris wrote:Somebody also tweeted that this horrible, childish, petty press release about Dr Amaral's £300k was spite, or revenge, after seeing that picture of him with Pat Brown. TBH it would not surprise me at all.

That's an interesting thought.
And I could easily believe that too.