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Post  SteveT Thu 15 Mar - 12:22

I really do believe that the cards are finally tumbling down!
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On top of everything else - this will make a great photo opportunity for Amaral - Sitting with his 7,000 books - how CM would spin that one around the world if it was KM book that was being released from custody (well it should be locked away as it is a horror)!!!! Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124
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Post  Panda Thu 15 Mar - 12:34

duncanmac wrote:Hi Panda, what you gonna do with your time when this case gets solved ?

Hi duncanmac, Well first thing would be to sign in to a RestHome for a couple of weeks to get back to normal.

Then I am considering going into computer programming....... I had to get my Internet provider assistance where they go into your computer to sort
out your problem of internet breaking down, so maybe that's a no-no for. me. Politics, done that. I don't know if you are aware but 3 of us are
going to write the definitive book on the disappearance of Madeleine, ann_chovey, Angeliue (the letter cue is not working now!!!) and myself are going to Bali to concentrate . Obviously we need a few bob, you don't happen to have a holiday home there do you? to pay for the Flights and accommodation etc so I will be Fundraiser and deal with the legal bit and find a Reputable Publisher. When that's done and we have each made enough to buy a villa in a warm clime I shall then write my Memoirs. Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324 Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324
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I'm a dab hand at pushing luggage trolleys, Panda.
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Post  Panda Thu 15 Mar - 13:05

The End Is Nigh wrote:I'm a dab hand at pushing luggage trolleys, Panda.

Hi TIEN ....well Angeliue offered to do that, but now she is proofreading, come to think of it there will be a lot of Luggage, so your hired. Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346
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Post  Guest Thu 15 Mar - 13:15

Panda wrote:
The End Is Nigh wrote:I'm a dab hand at pushing luggage trolleys, Panda.

Hi TIEN ....well Angeliue offered to do that, but now she is proofreading, come to think of it there will be a lot of Luggage, so your hired. Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346


I'll see if I can find my leopard-skin bathing trunks Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124
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The End Is Nigh wrote:
Panda wrote:
The End Is Nigh wrote:I'm a dab hand at pushing luggage trolleys, Panda.

Hi TIEN ....well Angeliue offered to do that, but now she is proofreading, come to think of it there will be a lot of Luggage, so your hired. Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346


I'll see if I can find my leopard-skin bathing trunks Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

Well you'll be on your own, we are going to the Nudist Beaches ...gotta get an all over tan. Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346
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Post  Panda Thu 15 Mar - 13:23

NoStone wrote:On top of everything else - this will make a great photo opportunity for Amaral - Sitting with his 7,000 books - how CM would spin that one around the world if it was KM book that was being released from custody (well it should be locked away as it is a horror)!!!! Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

Soory about that NoStone....back on topic. If Kate is eriuosly going to write another turgid account of how she feels she might do well to wait until after the Trial, Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124
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Post  AnnaEsse Thu 15 Mar - 13:30

Panda wrote:
NoStone wrote:On top of everything else - this will make a great photo opportunity for Amaral - Sitting with his 7,000 books - how CM would spin that one around the world if it was KM book that was being released from custody (well it should be locked away as it is a horror)!!!! Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

Soory about that NoStone....back on topic. If Kate is eriuosly going to write another turgid account of how she feels she might do well to wait until after the Trial, Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124


I mean, who cares whether or not she can make love to Gerry? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124
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Post  Panda Thu 15 Mar - 13:37

AnnaEsse wrote:
Panda wrote:
NoStone wrote:On top of everything else - this will make a great photo opportunity for Amaral - Sitting with his 7,000 books - how CM would spin that one around the world if it was KM book that was being released from custody (well it should be locked away as it is a horror)!!!! Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

Soory about that NoStone....back on topic. If Kate is eriuosly going to write another turgid account of how she feels she might do well to wait until after the Trial, Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124


I mean, who cares whether or not she can make love to Gerry? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

Well although the Book sold well initially, it's popularity was short lived , is it actually still being advertised? It would be interesting to know how much
Advance was repaid before the fund received any Royalties....notice how coy they are about that, no reference on their blog or facebook yet uick enough to take donations from the public.
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Post  NoStone Thu 15 Mar - 16:11

AnnaEsse wrote:
Panda wrote:
NoStone wrote:On top of everything else - this will make a great photo opportunity for Amaral - Sitting with his 7,000 books - how CM would spin that one around the world if it was KM book that was being released from custody (well it should be locked away as it is a horror)!!!! Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

Soory about that NoStone....back on topic. If Kate is eriuosly going to write another turgid account of how she feels she might do well to wait until after the Trial, Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124


I mean, who cares whether or not she can make love to Gerry? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

Perhaps Kate is angling to become a celeb sex therapist Anna - who was it on TV?? Dr Ruth??

Today Dr Kate opens her male mail bags..............!!! Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324 Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324 Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324
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Post  margaret Thu 15 Mar - 16:43

Panda wrote:
Well although the Book sold well initially, it's popularity was short lived , is it actually still being advertised? It would be interesting to know how much
Advance was repaid before the fund received any Royalties....notice how coy they are about that, no reference on their blog or facebook yet uick enough to take donations from the public.

Panda, l'm wondering what's coming first, the paperback version of the book or the dawn raid? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346
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Post  Panda Thu 15 Mar - 17:13

margaret wrote:
Panda wrote:
Well although the Book sold well initially, it's popularity was short lived , is it actually still being advertised? It would be interesting to know how much
Advance was repaid before the fund received any Royalties....notice how coy they are about that, no reference on their blog or facebook yet uick enough to take donations from the public.

Panda, l'm wondering what's coming first, the paperback version of the book or the dawn raid? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346

I think Kate will delay work on her book unless she writes the last chapter as a Guest of HMP . Seriously now, is that right the McCanns are suing
Sargento? . When you think about it, they could have walked away with their Mortgage paid off still having the support of the General Public a long
time ago. Half the books wouldn't havn't been written, Blogs and Forums anti McCanns would have closed because the case had gone cold . I don't
understand their reasoning, suing everyone who dares to say anything againast them but they bring it on themselves. IMO
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Post  Lillyofthevalley Thu 15 Mar - 18:56

Karen wrote:I have a vision of Isabel Duarte running around all over Portugal with a trolley desperately trying to find 7500 books!
my vision is funny - so lets all take a sec to vison it! SEE - Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324 Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324
I have found a pic of a trolley with a clock (too funny) but DAMN cant paste not working!
KK is having a wonderful day! I hope you ALL are too Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346 good times ahead, Maddies beautiful flower I planted three years ago has started to bloom and Lord and Lady Kate are starting to fall!
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YAY !!!




Aw Karen that is lovely I was so dishearted yeterday today Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 873702

Its the spring Im also going to plant a lovely plant for Maddy too, you have given me hope AGAIN......Thank you Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 83453
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Post  Carolina Thu 15 Mar - 19:14

Panda wrote:
margaret wrote:
Panda wrote:
Well although the Book sold well initially, it's popularity was short lived , is it actually still being advertised? It would be interesting to know how much
Advance was repaid before the fund received any Royalties....notice how coy they are about that, no reference on their blog or facebook yet uick enough to take donations from the public.

Panda, l'm wondering what's coming first, the paperback version of the book or the dawn raid? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346

I think Kate will delay work on her book unless she writes the last chapter as a Guest of HMP . Seriously now, is that right the McCanns are suing
Sargento? . When you think about it, they could have walked away with their Mortgage paid off still having the support of the General Public a long
time ago. Half the books wouldn't havn't been written, Blogs and Forums anti McCanns would have closed because the case had gone cold . I don't
understand their reasoning, suing everyone who dares to say anything againast them but they bring it on themselves. IMO

Oh, so true. Only a few stalwarts would still be talking about the case if the McCanns had kept quiet and not sued anyone.
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Post  mossman Thu 15 Mar - 21:05

Panda wrote: Obviously we need a few bob, you don't happen to have a holiday home there do you? to pay for the Flights and accommodation etc so I will be Fundraiser and deal with the legal bit and find a Reputable Publisher. When that's done and we have each made enough to buy a villa in a warm clime I shall then write my Memoirs. Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324 Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324

Panda, have you thought of producing good quality wristbands to fund your venture ? I would be happy to buy some Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

I cannot believe this news, have been away for a couple of days and logged on and saw this. woohoo dr amaral Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 307691
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Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 83453 lilly your back i posted to get your bum back here and here you are , we all feel down hearted at times , i do anyway . i go away recharge a bit and back . were one little family wanting the same - not many real families want the same forever Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 83453
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mossman wrote:
Panda wrote: Obviously we need a few bob, you don't happen to have a holiday home there do you? to pay for the Flights and accommodation etc so I will be Fundraiser and deal with the legal bit and find a Reputable Publisher. When that's done and we have each made enough to buy a villa in a warm clime I shall then write my Memoirs. Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324 Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324

Panda, have you thought of producing good quality wristbands to fund your venture ? I would be happy to buy some Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124

I cannot believe this news, have been away for a couple of days and logged on and saw this. woohoo dr amaral Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 307691

Hi mossman, Nah, wouldn't sell wristbands, probably Lottery Tickets where at least there is a chance of you winning something . Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 294124
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Madeleine McCann Case: Right of Reply
Or Crime - Print version

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March 15, 2012

Psychology of Justice
Reviewed by Paulo Sargento
Professor Universitário

Response to the Right of Reply of Dr. Isabel Duarte, a lawyer for the McCanns.

Dr. Isabel Duarte, legal representative of Mr. Drs Kate Healy and Gerald McCann, exercised his right of reply to an article I published in this newspaper, in the edition of February 16.

However, this was only possible because we still live in a society where freedom of expression and responsibility inherent in it are a clear practice.

For issues of ethical nature, I restricted my response to Dr. Isabel Duarte signed the fortnightly column in the Journal.

In the first place, I reiterate the content constant in the text published here on 16/02/2012, not withdrawing a single comma, so that there is no doubt about what I think about the "case" Maddie.

Second, the marked register adjetivización the text produced by Dr. Isabel Duarte. Appreciating or not your writing style, I believe that the excess adjectives that populate the prose presented to us is nothing more than an ornament of style and taste questionable art. Otherwise, some of the words risk from being a personal affront which are not sin, would work against the dignity of a Portuguese "good man" and can, therefore, the author incur the commission of a crime. This sure that the appropriate time and place will bring light to my question.
Third, the account that pejoratively, Dr. Isabel Duarte mentioned in the text, and of which I am one of the owners, is intended ONLY, repeat ONLY to pay court costs, related to processes involving the former inspector Gonçalo Amaral Dr. The money comes from donations from citizens in solidarity with the ex-inspector. The story can only be used through a bank transfer, signed by two members (a British citizen and myself), and addressed to the accounts of the legal representatives of Dr Gonçalo Amaral. This is a joint account with a cause and a citizen not a Foundation.

Fourth, contrary to what Dr. Isabel Duarte said I did not sack rabbits from a hat, and I do not use this ornament on the head, nor do I recognize an expert in the arts of prestidigitation. Therefore, it should be noted that, in terms of delays and marking trials to which I referred, the facts speak for themselves, even though Grace's lawyer wants to deny, apodándome devotee of "conspiracy theory". And, of course, who attributed to other such "theories", references to "Ghostbusters", the use of the newspaper "O Crime" for the defense of betrayal, or even reference to the current ex-Inspector's attorney, Dr. Gonçalo Amaral, reveal much about who deserves the award - "Devoted to the Conspiracy Theory." However, in this regard, both the severity of the contents and by reference to a third party, say no more.

Fifth and finally, based on the claimed agnosticism, I must admit that, at least in one respect I fully agree with Dr. Isabel Duarte: the crimes and sins are paid here on earth!


RIGHT OF REPLY

With regard to an opinion of Paul Sergeant, published in the Feb. 16 edition, we received the legal representative of Gerry and Kate McCann the right of reply reproduced below.

Exercised by Isabel Duarte, Kate Healy and Gerald McCann.

The university teacher Paulo Sargento is a prophet who preaches in a desert town. His reasons, altruistic and selfless certainly lead him to write like a god, crooked lines, using the track production of prose vague and reticent of some famous writers. It is because defending his tribe, that of the good, because it defends a sua E tribo, two bons seems convivente and Charts. I defend the other and at the college professor who now looks after my name but I have to thank the resilience that he and his good friends helped to improve.

Subentendidos This repository contains, however, some false facts or offensive, happened to answer:

As for the "alleged millions" that Gonçalo Amaral won at the expense of a criminal investigation useless, he directed, at the expense of life and name of an entire family, whose character assassination, he, the professor who respond and the remaining members of the group of good, deal, are not "supposed millions." They are, for someone who earns his living working, a small fortune proven documented and achieved in a period of twelve months, which remunerated the writer Gonçalo Amaral, the monthly average, repeat, monthly average of more than € 28,000.00. That money, however, disappeared, perhaps as smoke signals that can only be read by "experts". To this we must add a bank account, which is not secret because an altruistic English gentleman has been advertising it can, for, through them, taking money from unsuspecting, and not only because of Gonçalo Amaral former inspector has debts to the Treasury, his brother and banks, where the group sent financial contributions, they presume to compensate the legal needs of the citizen in question, supported in turn by Social Security, that is, by my taxes. Never, until today, a good father Portuguese, Portuguese that trash media object created, promoted and encouraged by the group of good protected from freedom of expression and opinion-that know what money is, where you are going and for what it really, as a university professor and the group, organized through distractions and surgically disseminated, discussed dealing with the fund to investigate the whereabouts of Madeleine McCann, which is public and has audited accounts and controllable.

As for the delays and judgments marking the psychologist speaks of justice as if pulling rabbits from a hat, applying the theory of conspiracy of which he is devoted, a little amount of time it takes, is would say it would be surprising if two trials in which Gonçalo Amaral is involved, one criminal and one civil, one in the district of Faro and the other in the district of Lisbon, had been marked for the same day and same time. Hence, they were postponed, and if they were, for that matter, the proponents of the conspiracy theory would say that would be surprising that the first postponement was in the process that Gonçalo Amaral is the defendant and not that it is the plaintiff. And even frightening surprise would indicate, these adherents of the theory of conspiracy regarding the fact that, shortly before the trial of Lisbon, Mr. ex-inspector has been without a lawyer, which, expressly waived his defense.

Quanto à do livro band that feeds so many families, get distracted and Muitas mais, sobretudo justifies inqualificáveis ​​masterfully erros do processo aberto by força do desaparecimento of Madeleine McCann, nothing tenho to Dizer to não be that sendo agnostic before advogada, Crimes and sei that I tied you sins, na terra pagam capita, that same do ye sinners to sua trafulhice defendam hiring feces-using or wage ou ghosts "or Crime", cuja temporary manager or pseudo escritório do not address current Gonçalo Amaral advogado .

Regarding the sale of the book that feeds so many families, and many more distracted, especially brilliantly justified unspeakable errors of the open connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I have nothing to say, unless, being agnostic before becoming a lawyer, I know that the crimes and even sins are paid on earth, but sinners to defend their treason Ghostbusters hiring or using the newspaper "O Crime", the manager is resident in the firm's current lawyer Gonçalo Amaral.

Signature: Isabel Duarte





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Translation From Jatyk



review of the case evaluates controversial clues

Maddie: the doubts

The review of the “Madeleine McCann case”, already in progress, is forcing the joint teams of PJ and Metropolitan British Police (Scotland Yard) to an exhaustive verification of clues, including those who served to support the initial suspects against the McCann.
The case was shelved by the Public Ministry (MP), but in the process remains the evaluation of evidence and “scientific proofs” that PJ used to support that the British couple had some involvement in the disappearance of their daughter. The re-evaluation will imply, in any scenery, a judgment about the investigation and the way how, for example, the “biological traces” were used in the context which implicates the McCanns (thesis that the MP rejected). An important part, even crucial, to understand what happened in that fateful day will have to be found at the crossing of several statements (friends of the McCanns, bar employees and from the hotel). That is another important challenge for the double team, specially if there is no reconstruction of the crime. When the friends of the British couple started to be heard, the investigators noticed that inconsistent statements not allowed, the practice of building a thorough map of each of their movements, to understand in which space the child was taken. The PJ showed no trust in the statement of Jane Tanner, one of the friends of the couple McCann, who belonged to the close group that spent holidays at the village of Luz, in May 2007, and sat at the dinner table at the Tapas Bar. Tanner, 43 years old, was the first to talk about the figure of “ abductor”. She told to the investigators that she saw someone carry a child, coming from the Ocean Club (OC), where the British were installed. The visual statement was considered, at first, inaccurate, then, inconsistent. And it is not exaggerated to conclude that investigators welcomed this report with suspicion. Besides that, Tanner will tell police that the same man followed with child in his arms, in the direction of “Casa Liliana”, precisely where Robert Murat lives with his mother. The indication was highly disturbed for Murat, which ended being involved in the case, suspect of the abduction of the child, although later cleared. Was there some sort of intention to compromise Murat? This doubt may had “discredited” Tanner´s statement before the investigators, but these also didn´t find satisfactory answer for the time gap between the child's disappearance and the sighting of the alleged kidnapper. Tanner assured that saw him on the side, but, still, describes it with astonishing detail. Speaks of an dark individual, appearing 35 to 40 years, thin, about 1.70 m tall, very dark hair, beige linen trousers, black classic shoes and a peculiar way of walk, a very detailed description for someone who sees him by side in an low illuminated zone.

Gallery of suspects

The Tanner´s version even served for the investigators hired by the McCanns to create a portrait. However, the image ended discredited in several occasions. Computer experts decomposed, concluded that indicated familiar faces with the case, and a pig creator from Algarve listened by PJ, because it had resemblances with the face in the portrait. Other aspect still to be explained is to know how it was possible that Tanner crossed with the alleged kidnapper and, at the same time, Gerry McCann and a friend, which also saw Tanner, didn´t saw him, once they were in the same street where the kidnapper followed the trajectory. Gerry told police that he saw no one, his friend confirmed. Tanner observed other thing. So, there is here an undeniable contradiction the double team should now re-evaluate with the purpose of understanding what material value to give to the statement. Although the inconsistencies of the statement, specially if compared with others, don´t make Tanner suspect of anything, being considered kind and honest the information she presented, the truth is that her statement was not checked, even because it was not possible to verify it in real time, with others, because no reconstruction was carried by PJ. This will be one of the main challenges presented to the double team about the re-evaluation of the case, or, to understand with accuracy, where was all the people which accompanied the McCanns, as well others in the same ray around the apartment where the little girl slept.

Classify the crime

This is not about find a guilty person within the close circle of the friends of the McCanns, but it is vital to understand that the window of opportunity used by the person who took the child. However, first, is still necessary to conclude in what criminal way will be given to the disappearance: Maddie was abducted by a paedophile? Was victim of revenge against parents? Was a ordered crime? Accident? Kidnapped by sexual maniac? The MP rejected the PJ investigation thesis, that suggested that the accident followed by concealment of abduction, endorsing responsibilities for the McCanns, the thesis that provoked such an uproar. However, no certainty about almost anything, starting with the “mobile” of the crime or “modus operandi” of the author and ending in the way which Maddie took, unknown until today. There are, however, intriguing clues. One of the most enigmatic followed by PJ investigators implicated contacts with French police, which provided to PJ, the “file Chemello”, with informations about a couple that French authorities admitted the possibility of being involved in the disappearance of Madeleine. In July 27th of 2007, two months after the disappearance of Maddie, the liaison magistrate, sent, via French embassy in Spain, informations about suspicions of a man and a woman (born in Porto subsequently naturalized Italian) condemned in France for crimes that makes them “eligible” of suspects in the investigation in Portugal. Danilo Chemello, 64 years, was questioned by police in the south of Spain, in July 28th, in the sequence of an international warrant arrest. At the time, he and his wife Aurora, tried extort money from the couple McCann, claiming to have informations about the disappearance of their daughter. In the sequence of activities that related them with doctors, the French suspected that, for some reason, they might have crossed with the McCanns (also doctors), studying from that moment the criminal plan.

Strange alliance

The police of Marseille had received complaints about the treatment that Danilo and Aurora gave to the daughter with 15 years, compromising the health of the minor. Besides that, the suspicion of simulation of parenthood, to show children as daughters, when such children were not their daughters. The eldest daughter denounced the father to police telling that her half-sister Chiara, with 5 years, was forced to sleep and eat in the bathroom or at the garage, tied. Posteriorly, the authorities concluded that everything was organized to hide the existence of the girl, no school for her, not even to the doctor. But there was more. In the sequence of house searches into a couple´s residence, the investigators found reference about the alleged “purchase” of a child in Russia upon payment of 40.000 dollars. Data obtained from the couple´s computer, according police, revealed that between 2000 and 2001 had negotiated with an interloper from USA, the purchase of frozen embryos, to be sent for a greek doctor. The project included also hire a “rented mother”, but, for some reason, the Chemello abandoned that idea, However, even more intriguing was the reference about the existence of two sons that nobody knows where they were. Besides, the own biological maternity of Chiara offered doubts to the French investigators. Chemello declared to police that he was the biological father, but the record of birth has a determined date and the file of the doctor a posterior date. Besides, according informations sent to PJ, there was, surrounding the birthof this child, a succession of bizarre events: the eldest daughter of Aurora confessed that her mother not allowed to visit her at the maternity where she says she gave birth and never saw her pregnant; the assistance doctor talks about a parturient with different age of Aurora. There is also another detail to be add in form of doubt: for what motive the Italian would have bought three cribs (it is know that she wanted to adopt twins and announce it at the internet, receiving photos through email)? About the possible involvement with the disappearance of Maddie, besides the familiar curriculum of the couple might suggest, indeed, nothing concrete has been proved, but the clue can now be re-evaluated.

The pedophile clue

Was Madeleine taken by a pedophile gang or sexual freak of occasion? It is a possibility like many others. For a very long time, sometimes using robot-portraits, sometimes offering clues about pedophiles, with international connection, information appeared from several sources, almost from the press, specially British, which published the letter attributed to Raymond Hewlett, the British pedophile (died in April 2011, victim of cancer) which had been pointed as being involved in the kidnap of Maddie, where he assured knowledge that the child were signed and subtracted to a international “gang” that dedicates to the kidnap of children, by order, for rich couples that could not have offsprings, don´t want or cannot adopt. In this case, the clue had no pedophile purpose, but according the letter, huge amount of money involved paid by couples that wanted to “buy” a son. Their thesis were never confirmed and in the case of Madeleine, probably the most childish face worldwide spreaded, hardly can conceive that someone wanted to take the risk of kidnapping a child just to show her as “daughter”. In the book launched about the case, Kate McCann shows convinced that the alleged kidnaper watched the movements of the family until finds the right moment to attack. Kate considers unlikely that the abductor had an impulsive crime and admits that have been a planned action with method and careful, starting by the access to the reserve book of restaurant where the couple dined with friends. Kate tells that in the time of reservation was expressly requested a table closer of the apartment, with the purpose of having better access to check the children. “By definition, the book is accessible to the staff and, having intention, probably to the guests and visitors also. For my horror, without doubt, innocently, the receptionist wrote near the reserve which we intended to dinner close our apartments once we left our children alone and there was the need of checking if everything was alright”, tells Kate McCann in the book.

The traces and scent of dogs

This is, certainly, the most sensible issue in the process and also requires an absolute conclusive answer. What worth the traces of blood found in the rented car? What value to give to the scent of dogs of British police? At August 6th, the police siege increased around the couple McCann. The authorities concentrated in the rented car. Madeleine was disappeared for more than 3 weeks when the car was rented. Meanwhile, the dogs brought by British police (Eddie and Keela) had identified scent of corpse and other traces in the apartment and in the rented car.
PJ investigators gave credit to this information and in the process there is lot of information about dogs behaviour. Kate McCann makes other reading. She doubts. In the book “Madeleine” mentions with detail the performance of the dogs in the apartment. She tells that a video was showed, by PJ, in which the dogs ran through the house and posteriorly in the rented car, guided by a handler. The dogs gave specific signs, allegedly when detected something. Kate doubts. She told that false alerts can be attributed to bigger or smaller conscience of signs transmitted by the handler, and tells that this, in the report written, emphasizes the fact of these alerts not worth itself, without other material evidence.

A more “distant” investigation looking for answers

Formally, the process is closed, and only new facts can re-open it, but the Portuguese police authorities were receptive in analyze all informations gathered by British police (Scotland Yard) and Portuguese. From the national side, PJ appointed the investigator Helena Monteiro. One of the objectives, says to “Crime” a source related with investigations, is the reconstruction of all the steps given by the parents and friends in the night of May 3rd 2007.
PJ always defended the reconstruction of the facts, postponed for lack of cooperation of several relevant witnesses. The couple, which was considered arguido by Portuguese authorities in 2007, requested to the British Prime-Minister David Cameron, that all information gathered by police of both countries, analyzed. In July of 2008, The MP ordered the shelving of the process due to lack of evidences. The British, on their side, never closed the case, and recently, Scotland Yard agents were in Barcelona and in Portugal to “joint loose ends”. In the process there are many facts still without answer in the general context of the investigation. Especially, many of the evidences collected by PJ and confirmed by British labs, among those about the existence of blood in the rented car rented 25 days after the disappearance of Madeleine (Kate McCann suggested in the book that it was planted to compromise the couple). There are also traces of blood in the curtains and in the wall of the bedroom and odors of corpse in the rented car. To be explained remains still the contradictions about the hour of the disappearance. Evidences which, analyzed in a pondered way and with distance, might help to explain the disappearance”, an investigator related with the case told to “The Crime”. After having been in the departments of the PJ in Portimao and Lisbon, the process now moves to the Judiciary of the Oporto to enable "a more distant to about the case, so it says the assistant national director of PJ, Pedro do Carmo. The child is no longer seen since 3 May 2007, nine days before completing four years.

Court orders return of the books

The Court of Lisbon notified this Tuesday to the lawyer of the McCanns, Isabel Duarte, to return the books arrested to gonçalo amaral, confirming this way a decision already taken by the Relation Court of Lisbon, following an injunction filed by the English couple. The Relation decided, in November of 2011, that the opinions of amaral in his work didn´t violate the private rights of the couple McCann. However, they appealed to the Supreme, talking nullities in the decision, but the STJ returned the case to the Relation Court of Lisbon. Recently, the former PJ, who led the investigation about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, presented at the DIAP of Lisbon, a complaint for suspicion that the 7500 books of amaral, had been destroyed. This week, the lawyer of the publisher Guerra & Paz, declared that, the books are at a warehouse at the Matinha zone, in Lisbon, and that should be delivered as soon as a judicial decision appeared. The 1st section of Civil Court of Lisbon, notified now Isabel Duarte, faithful holder of the books, to at the time of 10 days, to deliver them to Guerra & Paz.

Where is my daughter?

Kate tells in her book the moment when arrived at the bedroom where Madeleine was sleeping, and couldn´t find her: “everything was in silence. Then I noticed that the bedroom door of the children´s room was open, not the same way we left it open. (…) When I entered didn´t turned on the light to avoid wake up the children. When I released that Madeleine wasn´t in the bed, I ran to our room to see if she was in our bed. That would explained the door open. When I saw the bed also empty, a first wave of panic hit me. I ran again to the children´s room, the curtains of the window trembled with the wind. The window was opened and shutters pulled up. I ran all the house in less than 15 seconds, before went out looking for Gerry and our friends. When I saw our table I started screaming: “Madeleine disappeared. Someone took her!”

Maddie is alive?

This is what the Americans calls: “the question of one million dollars”. The parents believes that yes, it is possible that Madeleine is abducted, supported in cases which can, in certain way, be compared, like Natascha Kampusch or Jaycee Dugard, that lived years in the list of the missing, but were alive, although subjected to an existence of sexual slavery. Dave Edgar, a former police officer hired by the couple McCann admitted the hypothesis very likely that the hiding-place being located in an area about 15 kilometers surrounding Praia da Luz, from where Maddie disappeared in 2007. Another case that makes stronger this belief of the McCanns is the case of a child kidnapped in 2003, at a restaurant in Los Angeles, rescued alive 2 years, in Phoenix, Arizona, almost 600 kilometers from the place of disappearance. Amber Nicklas, don´t know how to read, never attended school and lived with a gypsy family. Her name and birth date had been altered, although Amber had been identified from a photo of her original birth certificate, using photographic programs by police and via and analyses. The resemblance with Maddie continues in this abduction scenery, admitting that it might be this the mobile of the crime. Amber was abducted by members of gypsy ethnicity and that is one of the most used in the private investigation that the British couple sponsors. A “witness”, Portuguese, named by the detectives, assured to see Maddie, in pyjamas, apparently drugged, 300 kilometers of Praia da Luz, in the company of a gypsy couple. Despite the details provided, this clue has never led to anywhere. And such testimony never reached the official investigation. However, lots of investigations happened around this “industry” of Madeleine´s sightings. That is an aspect that didn´t help, because, to each new sighting, the public opinion of both countries demanded clarification, forcing the investigators to disperse efforts. Until today, none of those sightings revealed consistent although some of them were object of thorough investigation through local authorities.



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Ghostbusters? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324

I'm assuming that Maddie is definitely dead then, if they're calling in the Ghostbusters? What's all this sueing business about then? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 847843

And the Mad Cat Lady has the nerve to complain about her taxes being wasted? Stop raising stupid and pointless lawsuits, then. What about mine = £3.6 million of it being wasted on your lying clients? Hypocrite.

There's not enough time to even make a start on the above rubbish! I could be here for weeks with thiis nonsense, and that's giving it the benefit of the doubt (as it's in Googlese). I wonder how much of our taxes will be getting spent next on men in white coats in a plain van. Because I think she's finally flipped.


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Iris wrote:Ghostbusters? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324

I'm assuming that Maddie is definitely dead then, if they're calling in the Ghostbusters? What's all this sueing business about then? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 847843

who you gunna call ghostbusters !!!!!damm now i have that song in my head lmao
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Thanks Annabel......must admit , trying to understand all this is heavy going Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 25346


Fourth, contrary to what Dr. Isabel Duarte said I did not sack rabbits from a hat, and I do not use this ornament on the head, nor do I recognize an expert in the arts of prestidigitation"" ????? Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324
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duncanmac wrote:Hi Panda, what you gonna do with your time when this case gets solved ?

Hi duncanmac, Well first thing would be to sign in to a RestHome for a couple of weeks to get back to normal.

. Obviously we need a few bob, you don't happen to have a holiday home there do you? to pay for the Flights and accommodation etc so I will be Fundraiser and deal with the legal bit and find a Reputable Publisher. When that's done and we have each made enough to buy a villa in a warm clime I shall then write my Memoirs. Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324 Court Orders McCanns to return Goncalo Amaral's books immediately - Page 4 23324

will it be a charity? I've heard of a family who may be able to advise you how to con the little old ladies out of their pensions














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