this was posted on twitter its a bit strange ?????

http://twitpic.com/4i20pn/full


a photo of maddie and yes it looks photoshopped ???

God she looks awful!!

It looks like a still from one of the Christmas videos. I'll post it if I can find it.

Got it! Whether it can be seen outside the U K I don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MirXh4ZtIMI&feature=related

Approximately 2.38 this image appears.

fred wrote:God she looks awful!!

can you see the cross necklace????????? i hope that is a photoshopped picture!!!!

her hands look like adult hands

The mouth looks really bizarre and it's not nice to say it. But it looks like the mouth of one of those "adult dolls".

I don't think it's photoshopped. She's just in the middle of opening her mouth - the grainy quality doesn't help.
There's a video of a Christmas or something - she's wearing pyjamas and the twins are just about walking.But if you stop the video where's she's unpacking something on a low table - there's a number of stills where she looks just like the Twitter image. I've seen other photographs where she tends to open her mouth rather wide. Just a bad split second imo.

mummy45 wrote:her hands look like adult hands

Yep, that's what stood out for me too!

Iris wrote:The mouth looks really bizarre and it's not nice to say it. But it looks like the mouth of one of those "adult dolls".

i wonder how this person on twitter got this photo?????

it looks like her tounge is sticking out too??

Not Born Yesterday wrote:It looks like a still from one of the Christmas videos. I'll post if if I can find it.

Got it! Whether it can be seen outside the U K I don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MirXh4ZtIMI&feature=related

Approximately 2.38 this image appears.

Please note I found a video with this image. To me it isn't as bad as some other photos of Madeleine.

Not Born Yesterday wrote:

Not Born Yesterday wrote:It looks like a still from one of the Christmas videos. I'll post if if I can find it.

Got it! Whether it can be seen outside the U K I don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MirXh4ZtIMI&feature=related

Approximately 2.38 this image appears.

Please note I found a video with this image. To me it isn't as bad as some other photos of Madeleine.

Thank you! What an archive you must have up your sleeve.
In an awful lot of these clips I don't think she looks at all well. It's also weird how she and the twins never interact. She picks up a shoe from under one of the twins and that's all.

I had to turn the sound off because Gerry's voice-over was too much. This wasn't the quality of the Jon Corner video - very amateur use of colour all over the place - just a 5 minute compilation of what you can do with the average computer programme.

So this video is only just over four months old. Hmm.

Yes I was thinking of warning people about the comments from both Gerry and Kate! Tigger, this is something that a private individual has put together; it's not one of the official McCann videos. This was just the first one I found which had the particular photo in but of course there are others too.

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Yes I was thinking of warning people about the comments from both Gerry and Kate! Tigger, this is something that a private individual has put together; it's not one of the official McCann videos. This was just the first one I found which had the particular photo in but of course there are others too.

Yes, but the voice over suggests that it was done with G and K? I was thinking of Calum Cameron? The first website designer?

almostgothic wrote:

mummy45 wrote:her hands look like adult hands

Yep, that's what stood out for me too!

Maddie's hands have always seemed 'odd' to me in most of the pictures

jd16 wrote:

almostgothic wrote:

mummy45 wrote:her hands look like adult hands

Yep, that's what stood out for me too!

Maddie's hands have always seemed 'odd' to me in most of the pictures

The camera's autofocus is on her face so the hands appear out of focus when the vid. has been frozen to get the still. That's why the hands look blurred/large I think, because she was moving and not holding whatever it was steady.

I didnt watch the video, i cant stand to listen to his voice, but there is a video, either of christmas or a birthday where madeleine has a present on a table and she is opening it. when she looks at the camera she lookes really ill. im not being spiteful or suggesting anything, im just saying what im seeing, she also looks disorientated. dont know where to look for the video i saw it on here. ill try.

tigger wrote:

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Yes I was thinking of warning people about the comments from both Gerry and Kate! Tigger, this is something that a private individual has put together; it's not one of the official McCann videos. This was just the first one I found which had the particular photo in but of course there are others too.

Yes, but the voice over suggests that it was done with G and K? I was thinking of Calum Cameron? The first website designer?

I think you mean Calum MacRae or McRae, a former pupil of Philomena's. I know absoloutely nothing about making videos, I can't even transfer them directly here! It must be possible though to cobble together bits of official interviews and photos to make videos of your own.

You only have to look at some of the other videos posted by members of the Bleeding Heart Brigade; they are the equivalent of eating a whole box of chocolates at once or reading Hello magazine!

Not Born Yesterday wrote:

tigger wrote:

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Yes I was thinking of warning people about the comments from both Gerry and Kate! Tigger, this is something that a private individual has put together; it's not one of the official McCann videos. This was just the first one I found which had the particular photo in but of course there are others too.

Yes, but the voice over suggests that it was done with G and K? I was thinking of Calum Cameron? The first website designer?

I think you mean Calum MacRae or McRae, a former pupil of Philomena's. I know absoloutely nothing about making videos, I can't even transfer them directly here! It must be possible though to cobble together bits of official interviews and photos to make videos of your own.

You only have to look at some of the other videos posted by members of the Bleeding Heart Brigade; they are the equivalent of eating a whole box of chocolates at once or reading Hello magazine!

That's the one. It looks like a very simple collage of photographs and film clips - really you could learn to do that in ten minutes. Whereas the Jon Corner has very professional effects, equivalent to using special filters.
Because of the voice over I would think that they cooperated and supplied some of the film? Because some of those clips I'd never seen before up to a few months ago. Still, that's not a very healthy child imo.

She looks a perfectly normal ,healthy, happy child.
Please stop.

snowflake wrote:She looks a perfectly normal ,healthy, happy child.
Please stop.

no offence but we are discussing what we think and some of us think the photo is unusal that is our opinion

snowflake wrote:She looks a perfectly normal ,healthy, happy child.
Please stop.

Maybe to you. In some photos, she looks ill to me.
And as it may have a bearing on her disappearance, no I will not stop discussing it.
If you don't like it then you don't have to read the thread.

Iris wrote:

snowflake wrote:She looks a perfectly normal ,healthy, happy child.
Please stop.

Maybe to you. In some photos, she looks ill to me.
And as it may have a bearing on her disappearance, no I will not stop discussing it.
If you don't like it then you don't have to read the thread.

very intresting new australian article oon IVF birth defects
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/study-finds-ivf-link-to-birth-defects/story-fn7x8me2-1226347706846

THE risk of major birth defects in babies conceived using commonly available fertility treatments is nearly double compared with those conceived naturally, a world-first study by Australian researchers has found.

Groundbreaking Adelaide University research has shown that the risk for couples using IVF is 7.2 per cent, compared with a 5.8 per cent risk for babies conceived naturally.

But when sperm is injected into an egg - a procedure called intracytoplasmic sperm injection used to overcome male infertility - there is a 9.9 per cent risk of birth defects.

And yet it found that freezing embryos substantially reduced the risk of birth defects, including cerebral palsy and heart and muscle conditions, particularly for the sperm injection treatment.

Another major finding in the study, to be published this week in the New England Journal of Medicine, was the discovery of a tripling of the risk in women using a widely available low-cost fertility treatment - the steroid clomiphene citrate - to stimulate ovulation at home, without the supervision of a clinic.

The research linked a census of more than 6100 assisted conception births to South Australia's registry of 308,974 births and 18,000 recorded birth defects between 1986 and 2002.

It also compared the risk of birth defects across all infertility treatments with pregnancies in women with no record of infertility, making it the most comprehensive of its kind in the world.

The findings come as the use of assisted reproductive technology in Australia doubled over the five years to 2009, according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare.

Lead researcher Associate Professor Michael Davies said, though the majority of births resulting from assisted conception were free of birth defects, the study aimed to examine the differences in risks between available treatment and allow couples to make more informed decisions.

"For IVF (7.2 per cent), we were able to largely discount the apparent increased risk that is there in the crude data and we can explain that excess of risk purely in terms of patient characteristics such as maternal age and being overweight."

Melbourne IVF medical director Dr Lyndon Hale said the jury was still out on whether birth defects were caused by the actual IVF technology or there were inherent problems in the infertile population.

"The study didn't control for the fertile-versus-infertile population, so infertile people may somehow have more of these problems as opposed to the treatment causing the problems," Dr Hale said.

"The findings will make couples more worried, but it's part of our consent process that we advise them of all the risks."

- with Brigid O'Connell

Sometimes kids look a bit funny,they may even stick there tounge out when they're being filmed though that really would be quite worrying.Maybe the film quality isnt very good or maybe She now has that very rare condition 'stikytungbighand' think maybe a good idea to send this to SY,this could clinch it.