A Dissection of the EBook about the McCanns

MaryB wrote:If two national police teams are looking for Madeleine and they have been told nobody is looking at them as having anything to do with it.  They won't need a fund at all.  Can we take it that the fund  will be wound up shortly.

How cruel you are to deprive those who wish to contribute by suggesting that if the search is funded elsewhere and McCanns are off the hook legally, that the Fund should be "wound up."

The mortgage will not pay itself and there are car payments and holidays to be funded; travel in private jets to luxury hotels for tv appearances and yes, as jassi suggests, a libel trial to be won or at least give it the ole college try.

It's still a private bank account with the family as the sole recipients I presume; nothing spent on any other missing children...?

don't be ridiculous, that's just ludicrous widowan, they need it as you say for all those little extras.

But lawyers don't come cheap!

I wonder how much of the remaining fund the McCanns will be forced to pay Amaral when they lose their libel case against him? From reading the court proceedings, I find it highly unlikely that the McCanns have any chance of winning at all. Of course they will claim it was a kangaroo court, banana republic, etc. and that they were not allowed to give evidence (which they didn't want to do in the first place anyway!)

The Accounts to 31/3/13 are due to be filed next Month, what's the betting there will be very little left and it will be closed. The McCanns sequestered
E1 million of Amaral's money, if they lose , how do they propose to pay ???

Panda wrote:The Accounts to 31/3/13 are due to be filed next Month, what's the betting there will be very little left and it will be closed. The McCanns sequestered
E1 million of Amaral's money, if they lose , how do they propose to pay ???

They will try to shame him out of collecting but I presume Benefactors will step in. Cameron has aligned himself with them to the point that I think he will reach out to find them financial help if needed to keep on the right side of it.

widowan wrote:

Panda wrote:The Accounts to 31/3/13 are due to be filed next Month, what's the betting there will be very little left and it will be closed. The McCanns sequestered
E1 million of Amaral's money, if they lose , how do they propose to pay ???

They will try to shame him out of collecting but I presume  Benefactors will step in. Cameron has aligned himself with them to the point that I think he will reach out to find them financial help if needed to keep on the right side of it.

Whoever helps them, maybe the Press who have made so much money from Madeleine over the Years, except the Express of course. 

I think the Portugese overlooked two vital clues when they interviewed the McCanns.

1. Mrs Fenn's Statement proved Gerry was lying when he said The Police had been informed.

2. Kate's screaming on the balcony, if it could be heard on the next floor, the twins would surely have and woken up.

To be fair, the Police were a local unit and probably had never experienced anything like this , especially the Media interest with Reporters everywhere.

Panda wrote:I think the Portugese overlooked two vital clues when they interviewed the McCanns.

1.  Mrs Fenn's Statement proved Gerry was lying when he said The Police had been informed.

2. Kate's screaming on the balcony, if it could be heard on the next floor, the twins would surely have and woken up.

To be fair, the Police were a local unit and probably had never experienced anything like this , especially the Media interest with Reporters everywhere.

i agree panda - the local police were out of their debth with this - by the time that they arrived all and sundry had been in the appartment - and confuse confuse from day 1

cass wrote:

Panda wrote:I think the Portugese overlooked two vital clues when they interviewed the McCanns.

1.  Mrs Fenn's Statement proved Gerry was lying when he said The Police had been informed.

2. Kate's screaming on the balcony, if it could be heard on the next floor, the twins would surely have and woken up.

To be fair, the Police were a local unit and probably had never experienced anything like this , especially the Media interest with Reporters everywhere.

i agree panda - the local police were out of their debth with this - by the time that they arrived all and sundry had been in the appartment - and confuse confuse from day 1

When the McCanns set up the Fund 12 days after Madeleine disappeared, how could they know she would not be found in the interim???? How could they have Directors in place, all family and friends , yet no Director with experience in find missing children.???

yes that was a point where most people thought wt + mine was why phone family back in the uk streight away - she could have wandered off - but nope they have taken her - then jemmied shutters and rest history

The buzzards aren't circling there perched on a rothely roof.....

kitti wrote:The buzzards aren't circling there perched on a rothely roof.....

I wish I shared your confidence kitti, let's face it, if they weren't Doctors who had all the right connections, this case would have been forgotten by now. They have made a personal fortune out of Madeleine , yet have no consceince at all . In that interview with Jane Hill I posted here they said they thought the donations were for their benefit, to help with the expenses of searching for Madeleine.

kitti i have my up days and down days - never has a investigation been like this - and why simple because the mcanns can - big question why - fund - what -

cass wrote:kitti i have my up days and down days - never has a investigation been like this - and why simple because the mcanns can - big question why - fund - what -

Cass, I wondered why Kate was screaming "wev'e let her down" , then realised it was only that morning that Madeleine had asked her why she didn't come when she was cryinhg. If Madeleine was abducted, Kate has to live with that the rest of her life, Gerry too, but he seems to be wearing well.

Yes, Kate has lost a child. Any mother deserves sympathy for that. It's kind of difficult to give, though, to someone who has made a fortune out of their missing child; is still mewling to this day that they did nothing wrong; refuses to co-operate with the police trying to find that child; in fact sues the policeman in charge of the case; blames everybody else but herself; claims "we all do it"; holds herself up as a paragon of how to raise children; shamelessly exploits her other two children for publicity; tells blatant, provable lies under oath, to an official enquiry; spends money raised in good faith to find her child, on her own expenses; do you really want me to go on, or have I painted enough of a picture for you?

Iris you have eloquently put my feeling on this. I also think one of the reasons why the McCs have kept up the publicity is because they want us to see and feel their pain. Harsh though it may seem, it doesn't move me for all of the reasons you have posted and a few more of my own.

I pity anyone including convicted criminals who has lost a child. That is a human heart break regardless of what you've done or how you behave. Especially in the case where you yourself are at fault for leaving them unattended - the guilt would be horrific.

The local cops of course would not know what to do and provided this was an abduction I think the T9 also fall into that category, they snapped into action because you have to do something or go mad.

They were hysterical and as they had media connections and so on the idea of alerting the media does not seem to be something they did to trick people, it was to get the word out, I can empathize with the situation of being certain your child has been kidnapped - or even just lost - and wanting the police there immediately with a bold plan of action.

I wouldn't expect that or wouldn't have, until this case, that it got the attention it did and so much money on this one child, but I think if it is your child your panic and terror and guilt drive you - they did not trust a foreign bunch of cops to do all they could. Maybe that was not fair but if I came into my kid's room in Mexico and a few local police showed up and bumbled around saying let's wait she might have wandered off, I think all my preconceived notions about child trafficking and the Mexican police and so forth would be bubble up and I'd certainly not want to sit and wait.

If SY does find what happened it would be difficult to say from their perspective, again providing it was kidnap, that it wasn't worth it. The rest of us might think it's unfair one child gets all that because they were able to pull strings but when it is your own child you aren't saying, I don't want this enquiry for my child  because ben Needham didn't get it before me, or many children go missing in Thailand or whatever.  You can tell yourself my concern is Madeleine - it is not down to me that the other children did not get more help, and maybe in future there will be more emphasis on child trafficking and pedophiles because of our case.

And if the PJ does find what happened now, opening the case, it would at least in part be because they and the media did not allow this to just go away, so again as a parent they might think this is worth it, I don't care if people resent us for having the attention if it brings Madeleine home and these people to justice then it is worth it to us.

What I object to, the neglect was unconscionable, but a mistake by people who should have known better, and if they dosed the kids up to "help them sleep" so there would be no crying that is a shame. To go in front of the media and say lawyers in the child protection business have told us we were WELL WITHIN THE BONDS OF RESPONSIBLE PARENTING did a disservice to children everywhere. It was NOT responsible parenting. Nor would I lie to police trying to minimize the neglect, thus casting suspicion on myself - because who would believe parents and friends would lie if they weren't hiding something more than the obvious fact that their kid was taken when they were off in a bar after having been warned not to do this and asked to use the crèche. Mea culpa is the way to go - the timeline was 830 to 10, the kids weren't asleep when we left, or whatever the truth is.

They bullied their way into the Tapas bar to have t9 dinners specially brought there for their own convenience, hogging over half the seats every night so they could "dine" as they wished without burden of babysitters or crèche, unlike all the mere mortals using that resort (other parents seemed to find a way to eat) and left the kids for the same reason;  the fund will go to help no one but them, 18% of it spent on "the search" which appears to be primarily detectives finding new non-suspects for Clarence to highlight - then the mortgage, etc. I would sell my house to fund the search, not be worried about how to stay in it and fund my own legal expenses. Their refusal to cooperate is understandable in that they would be caught out lying and probably could lose their jobs and reputation etc over that but to say it's understandable is not to say it's justified.

They have known from day one that the likely case is that Maddie is no longer with us, they don't need the fund for the search and to use it to sue people when people gave it to help a little girl also does not make me sympathize with them.

Kate saying in her book that Amber Alert would in all likelihood have helped find Madeleine etc is bs, you need a known abduction with a vehicle description and license plate, not the fact that your kid is missing. She tries to justify that they did something for someone else and maybe they did, maybe some good will come of this all for other missing kids in Europe. I do think the fund needs to be handed over intact to a proper charity and let Kate fund raise for that instead of for her own private fund.

Iris wrote:Yes, Kate has lost a child.  Any mother deserves sympathy for that.  It's kind of difficult to give, though, to someone who has made a fortune out of their missing child; is still mewling to this day that they did nothing wrong; refuses to co-operate with the police trying to find that child; in fact sues the policeman in charge of the case; blames everybody else but herself; claims "we all do it"; holds herself up as a paragon of how to raise children; shamelessly exploits her other two children for publicity; tells blatant, provable lies under oath, to an official enquiry; spends money raised in good faith to find her child, on her own expenses; do you really want me to go on, or have I painted enough of a picture for you?

Iris, I think I grasp what you are trying to say  If neither SY or Oporto come up with any definite information that leads to an arrest , this case will probably be like JonBenet, Madeleine dead or alive will never be found and the McCanns will close the Fund . Every step of the way since Msdeleine disappeared the McCanns have been in charge. Remember Esther McVey in a public broadcast saying the Directore had voted not to allow the Fund to be used for Legal Fees? This was overturned within a couple of months and Esther resigned. I'm not relying on Scotland Yard , but hope Oporto come up with something.

Selfishness isn't against the law. I think PR wise they'd close the Fund or give it to a charity but they will not do that til they are done unturning every stone.

How do McCanns shamelessly exploit the twins? I googled them and apart from the pics of the kids on holiday only got one that looks fairly recent and that has the kids' faces blurred out. I hope they aren't making them do appearances

The do exploit the twins, they are using them right now in the libel case. All this nonsense about kidnapping that they brought up and was all over the papers. Then they had the cheek to say that all this publicity was hurting them and kids at school were all talking about it. Well it is them that keep causing the headlines. They use the twins as and when necessary IMO

fuzeta wrote:The do exploit the twins, they are using them right now in the libel case.  All this nonsense about kidnapping that they brought up and was all over the papers.  Then they had the cheek to say that all this publicity was hurting them and kids at school were all talking about it.  Well it is them that keep causing the headlines.  They use the twins as and when necessary IMO

Fuzeta, none of us has known a case like this and probably never will again. Do you think they really grasp how arrogasnt they are??? Now we hear they want to help at the Hearing, panic is setting in, they are beginning to realise their reign is over.  

Hello Panda I have my doubts about that. I wish I had not but it is not looking very good.

The twins are mere possessions to the McCanns. They don't want them taken away, just as they don't want their car or home taken away. Allegedly they could not even be bothered to lock 5A in order to save them a minute's walking time on checks that they only conducted once per half and hour. WTF? Like someone else said, had their been a million dollars in notes in there they most certainly would have locked the apartment. Thus are the McCanns priorities 1) themselves, 2) their reputation, 3) money, and 4) their possessions including the twins.

jinvta wrote:The twins are mere possessions to the McCanns. They don't want them taken away, just as they don't want their car or home taken away. Allegedly they could not even be bothered to lock 5A in order to save them a minute's walking time on checks that they only conducted once per half and hour. WTF? Like someone else said, had their been a million dollars in notes in there they most certainly would have locked the apartment. Thus are the McCanns priorities 1) themselves, 2) their reputation, 3) money, and 4) their possessions including the twins.

Nrmally jinvta, when a Woman resorts to invitro fertilisation she is desperate to have a child, all the more reason to protect Madeleine and the twins .

I think because it was Oporto who asked for the re-opening of the case they must have evidence of some kind which SY would love to know . Portugal is broke and to have to spend so much more money and time because Cameron intervened must have been galling for them . I hope they rub his nose in it and sy if Oporto's evidence proves better than an e-fit.