Letter of the day.....Daily Express 16th April 2014

I came across this letter and think it is very good and apt:-

RECLAIM BORDER TO TACKLE THE HOUSING CRISIS

There are two topics inevitably intertwined and that's immigration and housing (House prices to keep soaring 15th April)

From the late forties until the early eighties , the U.K> population was steady at about 57 million.

We had a farming industry that adequately fed the nation . We had to import certain foods we could not grow ourselves but we were largely self-sufficient.

Now we have a population nudging 70 million , vast areas of farmland being taken over for housing , plus a huge increase in imported food from thousands of miles away that we used to grow. In twenty years England will be one large concrete block from Cornwall to Scotland .

This Country has to take back control of its borders.

There are Countries in Europe larger than the U.K., with smaller populations . We have to start by overriding legislation from Brussels and deporting all illegals and those who have no right to be in the U.K.

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This is a very good article , what happened to King Edward potatoes, Granny smith apples etc.!!!

King Edward potatoes are available in all the big supermarkets as are granny smith apples in many of them,which incidentally originate from Australia but are now grown in the last known available green space left in this country which i believe is an allotment somewhere in Peckham.
If we stopped giving farmers £millions to grow Solar panels and windmills we would have loads of space for them nasty immigrants.

Lioned wrote:King Edward potatoes are available in all the big supermarkets as are granny smith apples in many of them,which incidentally originate from Australia but are now grown in the last known available green space left in this country which i believe is an allotment somewhere in Peckham.
If we stopped giving farmers £millions to grow Solar panels and windmills we would have loads of space for them nasty immigrants.

Well they might be where you live, but not where I live, M & S never sold them when their food dept was No. !. Where do you shop, Waitrose, ??

It's not just the items I mentioned, most veg , runner beans are a joke , strawberries not ripe and it was true, Britain had a thriving farming industry until the EU limited quotas so France could benefit .

Waitrose got some this morning but you will have to get them on line as since they shut down all the mines they only bother to send the cheap left overs down to Wales.

https://m.waitrose.com/worklight/apps/services/www/Waitrose_Real/mobilewebapp/default/Waitrose_Real.html?l=grocery#DynamicTrolleyView,LeftSidebarMenu,waitrose/views/SearchCategoryView_0,LoginModalView,LoginView,dojox_mobile_SwapView_0,waitrose/views/TaxonomyCategoryView_2,ProductDetailsView

Lioned wrote:Waitrose got some this morning but you will have to get them on line as since they shut down all the mines they only bother to send the cheap left overs down to Wales.

https://m.waitrose.com/worklight/apps/services/www/Waitrose_Real/mobilewebapp/default/Waitrose_Real.html?l=grocery#DynamicTrolleyView,LeftSidebarMenu,waitrose/views/SearchCategoryView_0,LoginModalView,LoginView,dojox_mobile_SwapView_0,waitrose/views/TaxonomyCategoryView_2,ProductDetailsView

I wouldn't know because I buy all my veg from veg shops and the Market . Anyway, back on topic, I think Britain has even less land for building houses now with all the recent floods. I think there will have to be more high rise flats and less planning permission for housing. Also. a way of curbing all these Oligarchs buying up properties at exhorbitant prices . The Housing Market is skewed and needs to be explored for ways to stabilise prices.

Both Sainsburys and Tesco have deals on Grannysmiths today.

http://m.tesco.com/mt/www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=254076912

Or you could buy a tree and grow your own.

Actually this is a better link/deal.

http://www.banana-king.co.uk/products/Granny-Smith-Apples-%252d-4-Pack.html?gclid=COHR3-C79L0CFUTMtAod8woAVQ

Lioned wrote:Both Sainsburys and Tesco have deals on Grannysmiths today.

http://m.tesco.com/mt/www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=254076912

Or you could buy a tree and grow your own.

Didn't I just say go back to the topic?????

I am on topic.

The topic (or you)alleges we dont grow food in this country and in 20 years time the UK will be one big concrete block and panda you said it is such a good 'post'.
So i am wondering on what basis you can say that based on some strangers 'anecdotal' nonsense.

I put to you that farmers get more for growing solar panels and windmills which you passed on.We do indeed inport more food nowadays because the consumer,so they want us to believe, demands more variety and 'out of season' produce.
We still grow plenty in this country and have lots of green space but those bent on drumming up fear of immigrants choose to be very selective in their 'posts'.
You will learn more if you just go for a walk through the valleys and spend a bit more time asking the stall holders down your local veg market.

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Lioned wrote:King Edward potatoes are available in all the big supermarkets as are granny smith apples in many of them,which incidentally originate from Australia but are now grown in the last known available green space left in this country which i believe is an allotment somewhere in Peckham.
If we stopped giving farmers £millions to grow Solar panels and windmills we would have loads of space for them nasty immigrants.

The reason our farmers are as you say growing solar panels and windmills is because the large supermarkets here have beaten them down on price so much for their produce that they cannot survive on growing it.

I grow my own King Edward potatoes at an allotment in Staffordshire. I also have apple trees and I prefer the good old Cox

fuzeta wrote:

Lioned wrote:King Edward potatoes are available in all the big supermarkets as are granny smith apples in many of them,which incidentally originate from Australia but are now grown in the last known available green space left in this country which i believe is an allotment somewhere in Peckham.
If we stopped giving farmers £millions to grow Solar panels and windmills we would have loads of space for them nasty immigrants.

The reason our farmers are as you say growing solar panels and windmills is because the large supermarkets here have beaten them down on price so much for their produce that they cannot survive on growing it.

I grow my own King Edward potatoes at an allotment in Staffordshire. I also have apple trees and I prefer the good old Cox

That is true the supermarket buyers will search the globe for the best price then lean on our farmers to push down the price.Then you cannot blame the farmers for 'taking the coin' from the energy companys.
Its easier than getting up at Half past three in the morning to milk the cows.

However,back on topic,The title of the thread is 'letter of the day' which to me suggests some agreement to the Authors assertions in his 'letter of the day'.
Unless someone can demonstrate to me some evidence that vast areas of farmland have been given over to housing and that the whole country will be covered in concrete in 20 years time (accepting the authors licence to exaggerate a bit)  then i would suggest its the usual jingoistic 'all immigrants should be shot' diatribe and condemned to the bin marked 'bunch of internet looneys'.

If you are going to tackle the problem of immigration then do it based on facts that can be supported with evidence.Thats the only way to deal with it on an intellectual basis that will prompt change.

I  dont  like  granny  smiths or  king edward pots

I only  ever   cook  with Maris  Piper pots.....they  make  lovely  crispy  roast  pots.....

I  prefer  the   cox  too.....

I  live  in  a  flat  so  cant   buy  a  tree  unless   i  plant   it  in  the  bath....

I   could   buy  a   tin  bath  i spose.....

I grow my own maris pipers and i have apple trees but not sure the variety.
I grow my own runner beans that will keep me going for months.
My tomatoes usually get the blight so i may not bother with them this year.
I will have a small section for radishes and carrots and chard.
The ground in my garden is rubbish otherwise i would live 'the good life' and be self sufficient.
I may put up a windmill if the neighbours dont object.No way would i have a solar panel on my roof,never get your money back on them.
I've had builders wanting to build houses on my garden but i'm not interested.I'd rather have grass than concrete to look at and thats how its going to stay.

kitti wrote:I   could   buy  a   tin  bath  i spose.....

I will rent you a corner of my garden for a bag of apples.

I have lots of trees in my garden and when the kids where young i built them a big tree house.Well they've moved away now so the tree house is vacant.I think i could fit in about six immigrants and i would just let them live rent free if they care for my garden.
I dont mind that if it saves a bit of farm land somewhere.

kitti wrote:I  dont  like  granny  smiths or  king edward pots

I only  ever   cook  with Maris  Piper pots.....they  make  lovely  crispy  roast  pots.....

I grow some Maris Piper Kitti. As you say they are great for roasts and chips. However no good at all for mash as they just boil into the water. So I grow King Edwards or some sort of reds for that. I agree about the granny smiths urgh

kitti wrote:I   could   buy  a   tin  bath  i spose.....

Well if you do that make sure its not one of those Japanese knot weed Apple trees or your neighbours downstairs will have roots growing through their ceiling.

Claudia79 wrote:Off topic warnings are issued by mods and admin if they feel it's necessary.

Claudia, if a thread goes off topic it is confusing for everyone and since you and AnnaEsse are seldom around to Moderate .as you can see Lioned took no notice so what it means is anything goes on MM is it?

Panda,if you want some King Edwards i could get them at my local Waitrose and send them down to you ?   

Be  cheaper  to go  to a Spud-U-Like.....

What about a Spud-U-dont like ?