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Post  almostgothic Thu 5 Jun - 12:49

Image beneath soil at Madeleine McCann search site 'worth close attention'

Martin Geissler: ITV News Correspondent

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But the second spot they've identified is still keeping officers busy. Ground penetrating radar equipment picked up an image beneath the soil there yesterday. Forensic teams began work on the spot late in the afternoon and even the most senior detectives stayed on into the evening, supervising the operation.

Today, a team is still at work on the spot. Intermittently, they emerge to take buckets back to their vans. Samples, perhaps, for inspection.

Sources inside the investigation tell me the discovery is unlikely to be the "smoking gun" which has eluded police for seven years, but they certainly believe something is worthy of close attention.


http://www.itv.com/news/2014-06-05/image-beneath-soil-at-madeleine-mccann-search-site-offering-police-something-worth-close-attention/
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Post  jassi Thu 5 Jun - 12:54

almostgothic wrote:Image beneath soil at Madeleine McCann search site 'worth close attention'

Martin Geissler: ITV News Correspondent

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But the second spot they've identified is still keeping officers busy. Ground penetrating radar equipment picked up an image beneath the soil there yesterday. Forensic teams began work on the spot late in the afternoon and even the most senior detectives stayed on into the evening, supervising the operation.

Today, a team is still at work on the spot. Intermittently, they emerge to take buckets back to their vans. Samples, perhaps, for inspection.

Sources inside the investigation tell me the discovery is unlikely to be the "smoking gun" which has eluded police for seven years, but they certainly believe something is worthy of close attention.


http://www.itv.com/news/2014-06-05/image-beneath-soil-at-madeleine-mccann-search-site-offering-police-something-worth-close-attention/


I fancy they would want to say that, even if they found anything.
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Post  pennylane Thu 5 Jun - 13:23

frencheuropean wrote:Article ( Sundayworld) Posted on another thread but worth the read again:

"Maddie search expanded as effort branded PR exercise"

http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/donal-macintyre-s-crime-cafe/maddie-search-expanded-as-effort-branded-pr-exercise-to-distract-from-corruption-troubles




"By promising to solve the case in a fire engine fashion, overtaking and by implication deriding the work of other investigators on the case, then it has  perhaps, set itself up to fail and to fall from a great height."


Never a truer word spoken!
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Post  almostgothic Thu 5 Jun - 13:41

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Post  kitti Thu 5 Jun - 13:50

'Kate and Gerry are expecting significant news'...



And the significant news is.....



SY have dug a few holes and haven't found a body so Madeleine Mccann is alive.
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Post  almostgothic Thu 5 Jun - 14:04

An intriguing tweet from Spudgun:

Mike Spudgun ‏@spudgun01 2m
Dear Jane Tanner. If what I am hearing is TRUE, then I might even forgive your invented "sighting" :-) #McCann #McCanns
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Post  quickfingers Thu 5 Jun - 14:13

Almostgothic I just posted the same thing on another thread. Quite intriguing and I'm hoping it means what it suggests.
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Post  LJC Thu 5 Jun - 14:16

almostgothic wrote:An intriguing tweet from Spudgun:

Mike Spudgun ‏@spudgun01 2m
Dear Jane Tanner. If what I am hearing is TRUE, then I might even forgive your invented "sighting" :-) #McCann #McCanns

For those of us who have forgotten (me actually) who is Mike Spudgun please?
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Post  Keela Thu 5 Jun - 14:22

Spudgun used to post on the old 3As forum. Not sure though whether he has been on here, have a feeling he might have. His postings were always insightful ( is that a word?) and had a lot of sense in them. What he said was always possible. He needs to come on here if he isn't already.
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Post  LJC Thu 5 Jun - 14:24

Keela wrote:Spudgun used to post on the old 3As forum. Not sure though whether he has been on here, have a feeling he might have. His postings were always insightful ( is that a word?) and had a lot of sense in them. What he said was always possible. He needs to come on here if he isn't already.

Thank you very much Keela. Wonder where he gets his information from then?
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Post  Keela Thu 5 Jun - 14:27

LJC wrote:
Keela wrote:Spudgun used to post on the old 3As forum. Not sure though whether he has been on here, have a feeling he might have. His postings were always insightful ( is that a word?) and had a lot of sense in them. What he said was always possible. He needs to come on here if he isn't already.

Thank you very much Keela.  Wonder where he gets his information from then?


Don't know but he was always hitting the nail. I have a feeling that he intimated at some time that he had someone who could give him information but obviously didn't say who this was or where they worked. Coldwater was another one. people poo-hooed him but what he wrote was "within the realms of reasonable possibility". he too seemed to have someone in the know.
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Post  wantthetruth Thu 5 Jun - 14:40

LJC wrote:
almostgothic wrote:An intriguing tweet from Spudgun:

Mike Spudgun ‏@spudgun01 2m
Dear Jane Tanner. If what I am hearing is TRUE, then I might even forgive your invented "sighting" :-) #McCann #McCanns

For those of us who have forgotten (me actually) who is Mike Spudgun please?  

He's a journalist. He has good contacts within the media.

Let's hope he's heard something positive. We need it!
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Post  quickfingers Thu 5 Jun - 14:41

Not sure who he is but it has this on his Twitter profile

Investigative Journalist / Film-maker RTS Award Nominated for investigative reports & Current Affairs Documentaries for ITV, Channel 4, BBC and SKY News.

He is also followed by Brunt, Jerry Lawton and others so is maybe a real journalist.
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Post  Ireland Thu 5 Jun - 14:42

almostgothic wrote:An intriguing tweet from Spudgun:

Mike Spudgun ‏@spudgun01 2m
Dear Jane Tanner. If what I am hearing is TRUE, then I might even forgive your invented "sighting" :-) #McCann #McCanns

Intriguing indeed, my mind is racing with many connotations, main one, perhaps " the truth can set you free "
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Post  LJC Thu 5 Jun - 16:08

Thank you all for your replies. Yes, lets hope he has his ears to the ground (excuse the pun) and that we can be hopeful.
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Post  jassi Thu 5 Jun - 16:15

Ireland wrote:
almostgothic wrote:An intriguing tweet from Spudgun:

Mike Spudgun ‏@spudgun01 2m
Dear Jane Tanner. If what I am hearing is TRUE, then I might even forgive your invented "sighting" :-) #McCann #McCanns

Intriguing indeed, my mind is racing with many connotations, main one, perhaps " the truth can set you free "


And in some cases it can lock you up, as well.
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Post  almostgothic Thu 5 Jun - 18:19

Official Find Madeleine Campaign
3 hours ago
We would like to ask people to refrain from spreading rumours and speculation based on inaccurate press reporting. We are kept updated on the on-going work in Portugal and are encouraged by the progress.

Thank you for continuing to stand by us and supporting our efforts to get Madeleine home.

Gerry and Kate


But ... but ... you haven't told us which press reports are the inaccurate ones, so how do we know whether we're spreading rumours or not? Please advise ......

Encouraged by the progress? You see digging, sewage pipes being examined and cadaver dogs - and you are ENCOURAGED???

And what's with the OUR EFFORTS? Where were you when Madeleine needed you? Where were you when the cops needed you? Where are you NOW? Not where you SHOULD be, that's for sure.
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Post  almostgothic Thu 5 Jun - 18:39

Madeleine McCann cops carry out DNA tests on 'scraps of clothing' found near holiday resort

   Jun 05, 2014 17:09
   By Martin Fricker

A Portuguese military jet also swooped low over the site in Praia da Luz to gather detailed imagery of the terrain which will aid detectives int he search for Madeleine

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-cops-carry-out-3649912#ixzz33mt6vEmZ
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Post  frencheuropean Thu 5 Jun - 19:03

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http://www.international-newspapers.net/portugal/algarve-resident.php


Posted by portugalpress on June 05, 2014


In the vice-grip of Madeleine media circus, seaside village asks “Why now?”


As the rest of the world follows every spade-thrust of police searching for Madeleine McCann in Praia da Luz, the white heat of fury among locals is palpable. It’s not that people don’t want closure. Everyone wants to know what happened to Madeleine McCann on that fateful family holiday seven years ago. It is simply that no one can see any reason for the high-profile police search being called now, just as the tourist season gets underway.

“Holiday bookings have been cancelled” ... “People are staying away” ... “The village is being crucified” ... These are just some of the comments from residents and business people alike, who all say: “If the official line is ‘there are no guarantees, why the heck didn’t they come here in the winter?”

But the worst of it is that no one feels “strong enough” to come out on full record.

“It’s too political,” said one resort manager. “I am sorry, I don’t want to say anything.”

It is always like this, in this particular case where the official line has been the only line since the very beginning.

But perhaps things are changing ... One local resident, who came out fighting weeks ago but at the time asked to remain anonymous, seems to think so.

She has at last agreed to have her first name published. “Businesses are beginning to fight back,” Nana told us on Wednesday. “You should have heard the lady at the kiosk at Baptista supermarket yesterday. She’s fuming.”

Nana has seen herself become something of a celebrity for speaking out since police teams alighted on the village at the beginning of the week. She has appeared on Sky News, BBC and was being interviewed by a German reporter for German TV as we went to press.

“Luz is on the turn,” the Dutch long-time resident told us. “People are starting to ‘take back control’ and say: How dare they? How dare they come here and tell us that this needs to be done now - just as the village tries yet again to celebrate the best of what we have: the summer.

“It cannot be because the ground is soft. It is as hard as a rock! In the winter it would be softer - but no, of course, they come now. Why? We have to ask why?”

Business people who invariably ask to remain nameless complain of “crucifixion” as the world’s media follow police operations on the ground in various sites around the village.

According to press reports on Wednesday morning, search teams are planning to move on to the drainage system around the Ocean Club, which was being excavated at the time Madeleine went missing.

All these sites were investigated during the original police search but Scotland Yard’s crack team have said that nonetheless they need to go over old ground in order to rule things out.

Talking to reporters before the search began, London Police Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said: “I want to keep expectations down. You shouldn’t read into this that this is necessarily an end game or about to be a breakthrough of anything like that.”

Intriguingly, the Portuguese press publicised a “new theory” in its update on the excavations on Wednesday.

“Scotland Yard has moved on to the belief that Madeleine was killed in the apartment and her body hidden in the area around the Ocean Club,” writes Correio da Manhã.

“This is exactly what that poor policeman in charge of the original investigation thought,” Nana told the Resident.

“I have never met Gonçalo Amaral, but it is time people realised that seven years on, his original police work appears to have been solid.”

Amaral won a legal round in the ongoing defamation case brought out by Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann against him last week (see story on this page), meantime, police efforts around the little village in the sunshine continue, with another tent being erected around one area of digging mid-morning on Wednesday.

According to the press, so far various animal bones have been dug up, but that appears to be the only ‘news’.

PJ police accompanying the Met are said to be “without expectations” that a body will be found.

Thus the village’s silent query “why now?” hangs steaming in the early summer heat.

By By NATASHA DONN news@algarveresident.com
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Post  LJC Thu 5 Jun - 19:19

Why now? Because SY seem to be in agreement, following their work to date, that the conclusion that Mr Amaral reached is logical but it does not prove who her killer was without further incriminating evidence and if a very, very serious crime such as a child murder has been committed, which SY are indicating, this investigation cannot be conducted only at certain times of the year. No good trying to search waste ground and drains when its darker nights, darker mornings, rainy, or freezing even and perhaps it is better to do this at the precise time of year that Madeleine disappeared as it may even jog memories of someone who didn't even think they had a memory to jog. The days are longer and the skies are clearer but most importantly if this has now become a crucial part of the investigation it must be done without delay.
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Post  fuzeta Thu 5 Jun - 19:35

Just watched the news and someone was interviewing the reporter in PDL.

Interviewer - Why is this going to run into next week?

Reporter - Well they did not realise that the ground would be so hard and rocky

Duh, scrubland, summer, Portugal. What a surprise that must have been for them. If they could not work that out before they came, what chance have we got with the rest of it? Deadwood strikes again.
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Post  mossman Thu 5 Jun - 19:43

fuzeta wrote:Just watched the news and someone was interviewing the reporter in PDL.

Interviewer     -   Why is this going to run into next week?

Reporter         -   Well they did not realise that the ground would be so hard and rocky

Duh,  scrubland, summer, Portugal.    What a surprise that must have been for them.    If they could not work that out before they came, what chance have we got with  the rest of it?   Deadwood strikes again.



There was nothing to work out ! Ask the local police, you knw the people who live there......what will the ground conditions be like, what type of equipment do we need.

What kind of an IQ is required to work in SY. Andys been over and back to Portugal more times than Easy Jet in the past few months.
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Post  MaryB Thu 5 Jun - 20:01

I don't believe the rocky ground story for a second. These experienced people will have checked this out ages ago before the dig even started. Total nonsense.
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Post  almostgothic Thu 5 Jun - 20:09

MaryB wrote:I don't believe the rocky ground story for a second.  These experienced people will have checked this out ages ago before the dig even started.  Total nonsense.

I agree.
I'm only guessing, but it could be that they have found something (even something miniscule in a soil sample) that has spurred them on to do more - hence the extension.
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