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Post  interested Sun 4 May - 23:32

Just saw the Monday front page of the Mirror on Sky. This is billed as a "World Exclusive" also "Kate and Gerry braced for worst as new search planned." Sky's comment: "British police are to launch extensive digs at the Algarve resort where Madeleine McCann vanished in Portugal seven years ago."
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Post  tanszi Sun 4 May - 23:35

do the Portuguese police know this?
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Post  interested Sun 4 May - 23:51

tanszi wrote:do the Portuguese police know this?


Exactly what I was wondering!! LOL
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Post  Chris Mon 5 May - 0:11

tanszi wrote:do the Portuguese police know this?

Maybe Redwood and his team are going disguised as holidaymakers with buckets and spades.
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Post  lynn Mon 5 May - 0:26

New equipment available. McCanns need to feel worried!
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Post  interested Mon 5 May - 0:49

The Mirror article has been posted online. It states that Clrence Mitchell refused to comment on the planned digs, "We don't provide a running commentary on ongoing investigations." He could have added, 'I do however comment on the ones I make up'.
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Post  jeanmonroe Mon 5 May - 3:11

Madeleine McCann cops to start digging up resort where she vanished 7 years ago
May 04, 2014 22:49
By Tracey Kandohla, Russell Myers

While the search for missing Maddie continues the McCanns must also consider the possibility that her body will be found in police digs
Kate and Gerry McCann have never given up hope their missing daughter Madeleine is alive – but they are now bracing themselves for the heartbreak of a police search for her body.
Scotland Yard detectives are preparing to go to Portugal to launch extensive digs in and around the holiday area where the youngster vanished seven years ago at the age of three. The tormented couple have been briefed by officers about their plans to search three sites near the Praia da Luz resort they were staying at.
It is understood a team of highly-skilled forensic officers will use radar equipment to look ­underground in the grim hunt for clues.
A source close to the McCann’s said: “Kate and Gerry have been told police will be conducting the searches in and around Praia da Luz as soon as they get the green light from Portuguese authorities.
“There will be earth diggers everywhere and it will look very dramatic and it will be a heartbreaking and hugely emotional time for Madeleine’s poor parents.
“They don’t believe police are acting on any new tip off. They just need to carry out their own digs, looking for any possible clues that Portuguese authorities may have missed on their previous searches.
“It will not be a mere fingertip search of certain areas, it will be full ground searches, using radar and other equipment. It is such a sensitive part of their investigation but it has to be done.
“Police have assured Kate and Gerry that it does not mean they are specifically searching for her body. They are doing searches as much as to rule scenarios out as much as rule them in. They will be concentrating on several different places at different phases.
“Certain areas should have been searched properly way back by the Portuguese authorities but were not.”
Kate and Gerry will not be going to Portugal but will be kept updated throughout.
The source revealed the dig will form a routine part of the Met’s cold case review into Madeleine.
It comes after a ­Crimewatch TV appeal resulted in new information coming to light. The source added: “They have been tasked with the painstaking job of going through every single detail the Portuguese police have already done, plus following up any new leads that have come in. They are looking into it with fresh eyes. New ­information has come in following Crimewatch but it is not known if any of it is linked to these searches.”
Police will dig two areas of land surrounding the Ocean Club’s Apartment 5A, where Madeleine vanished on May 3 2007, and an area on the nearby beach.
Saturday was the anniversary of the ­youngster’s disappearance and prayers were said for her at her village church in Rothley, Leics. Heart doctor Gerry, 45, told wellwishers: “The Met are going back out to Portugal very soon. They are chipping away and there is new evidence. We are going to continue hoping we get a happy outcome and one day we will know what’s happening.” Kate has admitted the pair could not be blinkered to “a worst case scenario” but they are said to have been buoyed by the new development. They previously raised concerns about the pace of progress in the new ­investigation after tensions were revealed between British and Portuguese investigators.
The Met had said they were confident of being able to start “operational activity” in Portugal soon but their hopes have so far failed to materialise. The latest news is a sign Portuguese ­detectives could be willing to grant full access to files and evidence their British ­counterparts on Operation Grange have been requesting for months. Sources say a team could be in place even by the end of the week to fly to Portugal to try to find what happened to Madeleine, whose 11th birthday is next Monday.
Kate, 46, said recently: “The passing of further weeks and months as a result of ­unnecessary delays and barriers are not only frustrating, they are distressing.
“Each day without Madeline and each day of not knowing is another day too many. I just want to know if she’s alive or dead.” The former GP told last week how she secretly returns to the resort to feel close to her daughter and “to walk those streets” and “look for answers”. But she has not been back since April last year.
Madeleine’s great uncle, Brian Kennedy, 75, said: “We would just like to know something, whatever news that may because not having any idea where Madeleine is, is so difficult.”
Police are trying to identify a serial sex beast who may have struck at least 18 times in Algarve resorts from 2004 to 2010, assaulting British girls as young as 10 as they slept in their beds. In some attacks he wearing a burgundy, long-sleeved top. It may have had a white circle on the back.
Around six weeks after Madeleine vanished, police unearthed a potential burial site in the village of village of Arao, nine miles from Praia da Luz following a tip-off from a Dutch newspaper. But the search found nothing and that part of the probe was dropped.
The McCann’s official spokesperson Clarence Mitchell last night refused to comment on the latest planned digs. Scotland Yard said: “We do not provide a running ­commentary on ongoing investigations.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-latest-news-cops-3496784
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Kate and Gerry will not be going to Portugal but will be kept updated throughout.
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No surprise there!

BECAUSE the pair of them would be instantly 'arguidoed' the moment their feet touched Portuguese soil.

PJ 'live' investigation.
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Post  almostgothic Mon 5 May - 10:13

First impressions ......

It strikes me that there is a basis of truth in this story, but it has been embroidered upon and glooped all over with 'pity-the-poor-parents' sentimentality by The Usual Suspects.

I think that there will be excavations, but I don't believe that they are merely routine for a cold case review, as Mr Source would have it. You can't just go round digging lumps out of other people's countries willy-nilly without having specific reasons, specific potential locations and specific evidence for doing so.
In any case, current protocol surely won't allow SY to do the digging - more likely an observing and overseeing role. (Although the reasons for the dig may be down to some collaborative work).

The degree of specificity re locations in the article (two areas surrounding OC 5A and a beach area)  leads me to think that witness info and/or some cross-referencing of (technical?) data has brought them to this upcoming procedure.

It's interesting that Clarrie has declined to comment under his own name and yet one can see clearly his input under his alias of Mr Source.
Also interesting that, in the time between a) Mr Redwood's recent musings about Madeleine not being alive when she left the apartment and b) today's excavation news, we had KM's incontinent bletherings about 'needing to know'.

Well now we know why.
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Post  Guest Mon 5 May - 10:27

Heart doctor Gerry, 45, told wellwishers: “The Met are going back out to Portugal very soon. They are chipping away and there is new evidence. We are going to continue hoping we get a happy outcome and one day we will know what’s happening.” Kate has admitted the pair could not be blinkered to “a worst case scenario” but they are said to have been buoyed by the new development.

So the Met are "chipping away" and intend to dig up the Portuguese countryside with JCBs and Gerry's hoping for a "happy outcome". Do they think Madeleine's been hiding down a sewer for seven years and is going to pop up shouting "surprise"? What possible outcome could be "happy" about digging up a road in search of a body? Why do they feel "buoyed" at this prospect? Me, I'd be filled with dread.
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Post  Annabel Mon 5 May - 10:34

Where is Stephen Birch? Maddie Cops To Start Digging Up Resort - Daily Mirror 25346 Maddie Cops To Start Digging Up Resort - Daily Mirror 25346 
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Post  almostgothic Mon 5 May - 10:35

Three locations of interest ......

Three elements of occultation/cover-up?

1) Temporary hiding place.
2) Permanent burial site.
3) Disposal of potentially incriminating material evidence.
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Post  Annabel Mon 5 May - 10:40

(Thanks for theTranslation by Astro MCF)
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/ingleses-procuram-corpo-de-maddie-no-algarve

05.05.2014

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English search for Maddie's body in the Algarve

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The Scotland Yard's intention was reported on Sunday evening by the English press.

The English police wants to perform excavations in the area of Praia da Luz, in Lagos, in order to search for the body of Madeleine McCann, the English child that disappeared seven years ago. The Scotland Yard's intention, which can only materialize with permission from the Portuguese authorities, was reported by the English press last night.

The British want to use radar equipment and to send a team of investigators to Portugal that is specialised in the search for cadavers.


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Post  kitti Mon 5 May - 10:40

IF they are digging it's because the PJ are authorising it.


Mr SOURCE has hijacked this knowledge and the mccanns are pre-empting as usual.
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Post  kitti Mon 5 May - 10:41

The mccanns would also like to find the body before Mr Amaral wins his libel case.
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Post  Panda Mon 5 May - 10:42

Annabel wrote:Where is Stephen Birch? Maddie Cops To Start Digging Up Resort - Daily Mirror 25346 Maddie Cops To Start Digging Up Resort - Daily Mirror 25346 


That's just who I was thinking about Annabel, will the garden be dug up???

I can't find it now but there was a remark in the Mirror Article "awaiting the go-ahead from the Portugese", could it be the Press is jumping the gun?
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Post  almostgothic Mon 5 May - 10:42

Annabel wrote:Where is Stephen Birch? Maddie Cops To Start Digging Up Resort - Daily Mirror 25346 Maddie Cops To Start Digging Up Resort - Daily Mirror 25346 

Hurtling towards Portugal.
With his Flymo.

OR

Sitting at home, wailing: "It could have been meeeee!"

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Post  kitti Mon 5 May - 10:44

One for the mccanns.....sedation can still be found in bones and hair samples YEARS after death.
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Post  wjk Mon 5 May - 11:39

kitti wrote:One for the mccanns.....sedation can still be found in bones and hair samples YEARS after death.
Yep! I don't think this dig is good news for the McC's. I remember years ago it being speculated as a place for them to have dumped a body as there were road works being done at the time, not far from 5A.
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Post  tanszi Mon 5 May - 12:10

can someone help me out here. I thought iut was reported that the McCs were going to PdL this year with their was it Hubbard friend to hold a special mass or religious event for Madeleine. is this why they haven't gone or did I misunderstand?
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Post  mara thon Mon 5 May - 12:19

It´s coming up to the main tourist season and of course all tourists want to spend their holiday with the welcome noise of machinery, dug up roads etc. What could be nicer than being on the beach being covered in dust and not able to hear yourself speak ? Mccanns trying to wreck tourism for Portugal yet again?
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Post  margaret Mon 5 May - 12:38

tanszi wrote:can someone help me out here.  I thought iut was reported that the McCs were going to PdL this year with their was it Hubbard friend to hold a special mass or religious event for Madeleine.  is this why they haven't gone or did I misunderstand?

That's right, and suddenly they didn't go. I wonder if they dare step foot in Portugal now?
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Post  AnnaEsse Mon 5 May - 12:41

margaret wrote:
tanszi wrote:can someone help me out here.  I thought iut was reported that the McCs were going to PdL this year with their was it Hubbard friend to hold a special mass or religious event for Madeleine.  is this why they haven't gone or did I misunderstand?

That's right, and suddenly they didn't go. I wonder if they dare step foot in Portugal now?

Their appearance on May 3rd was the second time I have seen that pair looking truly sad. Perhaps this news about digging has rendered them into such a state. I'm also wondering if one of the tapas seven has finally given some information.
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Post  jeanmonroe Mon 5 May - 13:13

AnnaEsse wrote:
margaret wrote:
tanszi wrote:can someone help me out here.  I thought iut was reported that the McCs were going to PdL this year with their was it Hubbard friend to hold a special mass or religious event for Madeleine.  is this why they haven't gone or did I misunderstand?

That's right, and suddenly they didn't go. I wonder if they dare step foot in Portugal now?

Their appearance on May 3rd was the second time I have seen that pair looking truly sad. Perhaps this news about digging has rendered them into such a state. I'm also wondering if one of the tapas seven has finally given some information.

DC 1485 MESSIAH (Leicestshire police) "Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth'' (about a 3 years old childs 'disappearance')

DAVID PAYNE 'reply' "Err the, there are a few things but I don't think this is the right forum for bringing those up."

Maybe DP 'found' the right 'forum' after all?

No mention of the Paynes in Andy's CW 'revelation' programme, either.

Remember this?

"Gerry went out again at 4:00am , 4th May 2007, WITH his friend, David Payne"

"searching" or "moving" 'something' from 'somewhere' to 'somewhere' else?


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Post  weissnicht Mon 5 May - 13:15

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margaret wrote:
tanszi wrote:can someone help me out here.  I thought iut was reported that the McCs were going to PdL this year with their was it Hubbard friend to hold a special mass or religious event for Madeleine.  is this why they haven't gone or did I misunderstand?

That's right, and suddenly they didn't go. I wonder if they dare step foot in Portugal now?

Their appearance on May 3rd was the second time I have seen that pair looking truly sad. Perhaps this news about digging has rendered them into such a state. I'm also wondering if one of the tapas seven has finally given some information.
I thought gerry rather looked pissed, maybe because there were so few people (they sure summoned the whole Rothley) and maybe nobody gave them money.
How do they 'announce' the time and place when the whole Rotley is supposed to be there to support them? Leaflets...newspaper..?? How?
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Post  cass Mon 5 May - 13:39

if there is any truth in this , why dig now ?the pj said years ago they would only open the case if there was something they could work on bla bla , now what have they got ? that should be for them to know end of , not the mcanns not the press , i mean if the dig story is true i would hope that its already been done a while ago away from anyone joe public or the press ,it is the beginning of the holiday season and imo would have been done weeks before , unless something very very big has come to the pj
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